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I have the SR. I didn't buy it to be green or for the environment, those are just benefits. No hot engine to contend with on summer rides. No need to mess with a clutch or gears to mess with. No vibrations while at a stop light. No need to wait for it to warm up. Well worth the money for simplicity. Less time fixing or repairing and more time on the beach.

@alexbrit5166

11 ай бұрын

same for me bro, SR y22 is great

@mavenrow2943

11 ай бұрын

Exactly the same thing! a 2022 DS and I'm really eyeing this DSRX for the porch

@pastlinko6307

9 ай бұрын

do you need a licence plate for your motorcycle ?

@pastlinko6307

9 ай бұрын

@@alexbrit5166 do you need a licence plate for your motorcycle ?

@jakel2837

9 ай бұрын

You do you, but for me "messing with the clutch" is an important part of riding

I've put 51k miles on my 2014 Zero DS. Still love it. Very unique and cool bikes. If you haven't ridden one, you definitely need to get a test ride.

@edwinkubena9944

10 ай бұрын

How long will your battery last

@ElroyMcDuff

10 ай бұрын

@@edwinkubena9944 Zero claims 200,000 miles with about 80% capacity left. I'm not sure if that's all their bikes or not.

@porkchopexpress6969

8 ай бұрын

Nice bro, what has the maintained been like?

@Thecraneoparator

8 ай бұрын

Inresting what is your range on highway I'm considering to buy one for work

@cloudbasenirvana

6 ай бұрын

@@edwinkubena9944 Would you ever wat to ride an EV Motorcycle - They are now pushing EV Motorcycles hard - if an EV Motorcycle expoldes do the riders not realise their legs are wrapped around the battery so both of their legs will be blown off.

I don’t think this bike was ever really meant to be a long trip/touring machine. I just think they used the immensely popular adventure style platform to make the perfect commuter. If I’d own an electric bike, the only thing I would use it for is practical things like commuting, going from A to B and maybe when I feel like going for a short and quiet ride in nature to clear my head. For those purposes it actually seems perfect, although very expensive. For sporty twistie riding I would still pick a middle weight naked gas bike any day.

@j.k.cascade2057

Жыл бұрын

100.00% agree !

@jamesquinn771

9 ай бұрын

i thought so also but gas bikes are like toys compared to an electric bike when it comes to sporty twistie riding

Rode a Zero motorcycle a few years ago. It was fun at first but I can see how they would become boring quick. Shifting gears and engine sound are 75% of riding to me...

@bryanschwabenland6657

Жыл бұрын

Ya Sounds Good✔️✔️.

@vintageludwig

Жыл бұрын

I ride an ONYX RCR and it's definitely an order of magnitude funner when I switch to my KTM 350 XCFW.

@justauser

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think electric bikes are best suited for the E Bicycle category, there they are taking off like crazy, but I really enjoy the sound and vibration of my V Twin, and going through the 5 speed gearbox, it really is part of the fun.

@christianrios6295

Жыл бұрын

@@vintageludwig wow that’s honestly surprising those things just look so fun

@vintageludwig

Жыл бұрын

@@christianrios6295 oh they are

As a Zero FX owner, I agree with Yammie's take. That's why I went with the FX, no point in the extra cost and weight of the more premium models given the similar range and charging limitations. You really have to have a use case for the bike that does not involve going far and having to recharge during the day. It makes for a great second bike to compliment the T7 which serves as my longer distance bike.

@jimspa7896

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Have your ICE bike for longer rides, and a Zero for others. And if $ is an issue, just get the used ones you can afford. Simple.

The charging station you used is only putting out 6.3 kW, but the bike with a Rapid Charger can do 12.6 kW total. It's also worth noting you don't need to fully charge it every time and, it charges fastest in the middle of the charging range. I hardly ever fully charge the bike.

@MatthewW713

Жыл бұрын

I have seen your comments on more than one platform defending Zero. Do you work for them?

@blakerh

9 ай бұрын

Most likely

@mallkrawlerz620

9 ай бұрын

When you charge batteries on ev cars and bikes or rc cars for that matter. The balancing happens on the latter part of the charging process. If this is true with pretty much any ev item, then your comment is false and incorrect.

@zacharyb2723

5 ай бұрын

@@mallkrawlerz620 I thought the more sophisticated batteries could do balancing without full charge but iono

Electric bikes offroad make a whole lot of sense. Someone else mentioned below but an electric supermoto with a curb weight of around 325 to mirror a 450... man that's an in-town stealth hooligan bike. No issue hopping curbs or riding in not strictly legal places cuz there's no braap loud exhaust to follow! I'd ride the hell out of one.

You're also going way too fast to feel that torque. The torque is noticeable from 0 mph, because full torque is at 0 rpm. You've lost a significant amount of that torque and it's benefit once you're at 30mph, let alone 60mph. If you want to judge it's torque, do it from very low speeds or a dead stop. The torque figure quoted is peak torque, which happening MUCH lower in the revs than a gas engine.

The Cypher Store unlocks being "baked in" and fully included applies to ALL Zero Gen 3 bikes (SR/S, SR/F, DSR/X and the 2022+ SR), that are 2022 or newer. For 2023 they are already included. For 2022, you need a code from your dealer to unlock them but they are still all free (sans the SR, which has to pay for some as its a cheaper bike overall). And for 2019-2021 Gen 3's (SR/S and SR/F) some of these features are Backwards Compatible, specifically, 10% faster charging and Parking Mode (adds reverse gear!) - though these two features are paid to unlock, plus a free on-dash navigation beta. The fact that I had to pay for these features for my 2021 is no big deal to me - as it's rare that a vehicle manufacturer will make new features, backwards compatible to older model years. Plus, I bought my bike used, and so I saved a ton of money on a new one. So in the end, all the "microtransaction" hoopla was overblown and never happened.

Great review and video. I am seeing KLR650's for sale, at the dealer, a year old but brand new for $5400. If you drive them easy, they have a range of 250 miles and if they break, the parts are available all over the place. Plus, in five minutes, you are refueled and back on the road to more fun. It's one of the best deals in motorcycling today. I can buy FOUR KLR650's for the price of this ebike. I do wish Zero well and I do hope they get more sales because there will always be a market for their products. This bike actually looks great, but it is a premium ride. One I cannot afford to buy.

I jumped the Zero ship when I asked them on Instagram why they don't support Right To Repair. It was the absolute, most condescending response I'd ever seen. To paraphrase, they basically said "sO pEoPlE dOn'T sHoCk ThEmSeLvEs 🤪"

@RealAnimeBadGuy

Жыл бұрын

Oh snowflake

@lateknights1

Жыл бұрын

They got a point though. Those batteries are extremely dangerous. If you get electrocuted during a repair you‘re probably dead

@AuRowe

Жыл бұрын

@@lateknights1 Not a valid point. There are independent shops across the countries making cells for batteries up to the size of Zeroes smaller battery packs, for electric unicycles and scooters, without hiccup. They've been doing this for years on end without issue. Building the battery packs from scratch with nothing but cells is not dangerous if you're educated any more than changing your own oil, and the proof is in the independent shops already doing it. Zero wants to act like Apple where everyone needs THEIR "geniuses", which is corrupt business IMO.

@bryanschwabenland6657

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Sounds Kinda b.s And that💲💲Paywall.

@LeVainCasque

Жыл бұрын

@@lateknights1 that's why you disengage the battery. This is what one does with regular motorcycles.

i would love to see a video about the fx/fxs/fxe. i ride a fxs on a carttrak every week. An electric supermoto is super interesting.

I'm an escooter enthusiast but we have away to go. Right now electric motorcycles only make sense in cities but at that point get an electric bicycle

@heyitsRyanS

Жыл бұрын

What brand escooters are good? I don’t know too much about them

@minarchisttrucker2775

Жыл бұрын

@heyitsRyanS I have a nanrobot rs7. Or goes 55ish mph and has a range up to like 50 or 60 miles. I stick to 45 mph and below roads and bike paths and trails. In Denver I can go 20mph on the cycle paths and then if I need to hop on the road I go 45/50 and I've gotten across the city way faster dodging traffic and still not riding like an A hole. It's heavy though. Not motorcycle heavy but 100 pounds is a lot to try to haul up stairs or something. But scooters you either compromise weight, speed, or range. If you don't care to go as fast but want range then I recommend a voromotors scooter. I forget the name but they have one that's half weight and goes 30mph but has a true 60 mile range

@minarchisttrucker2775

Жыл бұрын

@heyitsRyanS if you want speed and have money then there's also 90mph escooters but that gets sketchy lol

Have you heard any news on the Kawasaki electric or hybrid and when they might be available for purchase?

i recently test rode it. i loved it. 100% agree with revzilla s review on it, they have better words than i do so here " direct electric powertrain provides a higher level of control and connectedness. There is no waiting for cylinder filling or combustion, no lash from a clutch or gearbox, no elasticity in a chain or cush drive to numb the connection between the throttle and the rear contact patch. It’s an amazingly intuitive machine to ride, and with perfectly linear power and no gears to shift, there’s never an interruption in torque to upset chassis balance, so the DSR/X always feels stable and composed"

I own a SR/F and it has been life-changing. I commuted for almost 2 years between LA and San Diego, and only ever had to stop to charge for 20 minutes en route; I love this bike and would never go back. It seems to me that those who are so trigger happy to rip on Zeros just can't extricate themselves from thinking the way manufacturers of combustion engine bikes want them too.

Great review and I agree given more range and better charging rate/infrastructure this could be an amazing bike. Thoughts on adding a 2x2 or limited slip All Wheel Drive riding mode? Also do you think electric bikes should have a left hand kill switch to prevent Whisky Throttle accidents?

I had a FX for a short amount of time mostly because it was a really good deal. But I really liked it. The only issue was the range imo especially with living in Wisconsin the amount of time the temp is optimal for electric is narrow. I was only looking to get 40ish miles of 60mph on a charge and when my round trip commute is 44 miles I'd be pushing it to say the least.

the thing with battery charging is that it is usually limited by temprature and the chemistry of the battery. There are experimental batteries out there can charge 6x as fast as a li-ion and store much more but they haven reached market yet. Also I think a good charging performance metric you could test would be 20% to 80% as that will get you the fastest rates of charging for a battery. The high and low extremes of a battery dont charge very well especially the high extreme.

Dr Yams needs to play around with an Energica.

Hey Yammie, I have been watching your videos for last 4 years and could finally buy a motorcycle. I am currently in a dilemna about my first bike. I am 24 years old and have 3 years of experience of riding scooters like Honda Activa in the city traffic of India. I was also able to max out speed on that little beast many times. Currently, I am in US and ready to buy a motorcycle in next few months. I am confused between CBR 650R and Aprilia RS660 . I am planning to finish 3 riding courses (BRC1,BRC2, ARC2) before I get on the road with my first bike. My heart is stuck on Aprilia but CBR 650R is a more sensible choice. What would you recommend me if I end up going with Aprilia?

@vtxgenie1

Жыл бұрын

Which is a better fit for you, and can you test ride either or both? Fit and feel for you are more important than brand or model, or even engine size/power.

Yeah need to pay more attention to imperpections in roads. Def feels a little wierd sometimes. I know i need tires on mine they are old. Wondering of suspension tune maybe not. My lock to lock because of fairing very small too

I took one out for nearly a full day while my DSR Black Forest was in for a service. Lovec it. I want one. I would add the extra 6kw charger to get 12kw total. Also don't understand the alloy wheel with spoked wheels as an option? And non LED turn signals. Enjoyed the video an review.

@protonus

Жыл бұрын

Spoked wheels are better for off road. They can bend a bit, where as cast wheels simply crack/break. If you bend or break a spoke, the spoke can be replaced. If you bend the rim, the rim can be replaced. But if you bend a spoke on a cast wheel, the wheel is trash.

I like the integrity of the video. As an off roader I tend to agree with what I hear here. I have a sense of what is experienced with this heavy bike (with smoothish tires) in the off-road, as when I owned a 650 Honda street bike, I couldn't resist taking it over the odd twisty, hilly dirt trail. Not likely recommended for a novice, but it sure is nice having all that torque (that is not there with a two stroke moto cross bike). Thanks for the video.

You have to understand that torque curves of electric motors a very different than standard motors, the maximum torque is at the lowest speed, then the torque curve starts decreasing as the speed increases.

You can change the modes while riding, but the conf will change after you release the throthel

@Tachiguro

Жыл бұрын

@yammienoob is it spam?

Bottom line? If you can't disconnect what you know about motorcycles and ride this thing with an open mind, youll never like it. I ride a high powered electric scooter and have ridden a 100v recon and truly enjoy the open air experience. I guess what makes those more fun then a Zero motorcycle is the fact that you don't have to register them, you can ride them on bike paths, you can put them in the trunk of your vehicle (depending on scooter/EUC), you can ride with traffic if it's fast enough or on sidewalks. I don't hVe a motorcycle engine but is the sound really needed? I don't think so and my fun factor is high as hell. I haven't ridden a zero motorcycle but my reception to electric vehicles in general tells me I'd enjoy it. Sorry you don't.

I rode an SRS and I actually loved it. It was an experience that is unlike any ICE bike. It's sad that the government is forcing us to hate these bikes. As we all know, they're trying to ban ICE vehicles in general, so we need these to fail. I want to own an electric bike one day, but I'll always own an ICE bike. Neither is better, they're just different. It's like comparing a touring bike to a hyper bike. It's just not a great comparison.

@edwinkubena9944

10 ай бұрын

You will until we run out of gas

@seandeterman2499

10 ай бұрын

@edwinkubena9944 So, what I hope happens is some crazy breakthrough with battery technology. Something that charges quickly, holds a usable amount of power, and isn't as affected by the cold. Something that could realistically make ICE vehicles "obsolete". That I'm almost certain will happen. What I'm really hopeful of is that they'll eventually relax the laws surrounding ICE vehicles as they realize that really only enthusiasts are going to keep them. That would be cool. It's a lot to hope for, it's not impossible.

@edwinkubena9944

10 ай бұрын

@@seandeterman2499 really agree. I would like a good electric motorcycle. I bought dozens of ICE always wrenching the electrics are simple maybe more reliable. Even with the limitations on range 60 miles gets me to work and back can live with that . Can’t no way afford a new one will look for a good used deal. The battery technology is good right now it has come a long way and will get better. This absolutely is the future if we have one in our nation

You could slap on one of those new lightweight(lol) generators, and recharge it two times before running out of juice. Just strap it in the luggage - what's 40 more pounds.

is it as soilless as a Versis 650?

The torque gets multiplied with the gearbox in an IC engine motorcycle and in an electric motorcycle the gearbox (if there is any) doesn’t have more gear ratios to play with

Zero is doing something very hard. Motorcycles are a niche thing in the US. Most people dont need a moyorcycle so they buy it because its cool and they like the riding dynamics. Full sized electric motorcycles take away several things that riders expect and offer a couple of new things that are valued. They take away performance per dollar, range, sound and weight (for the power they make). They provide ease of use (controls) low maintenance cost. unique power delivery and lack of sound (some people like that). Does it make it a great purchase for 99% of riders?

Unless you own an electric vehicle you never get that 90% of the time it's actually much more convenient than a gas vehicle. 10% of the time is less convenient. This never gets across in reviews because they have it for a short period of time.

arent u going to explain the chatGPT videos?

So just a random thing to put out there. When an electric motor spins faster and faster you lose quite a bit of power. There is a power band which usually in an electric vehicle is from a standstill to a certain motor speed. I have not personally ridden a Zero but I do ride surrons, talarias, kubergs, and a few other. That low end power is where to torque rating usually come from and once you’re out of that power range the bike feels a little gutless.

The torque figure on electrics is basically from 0 mph/rpm and drops a lot with speed because there are no gears. So when you’re cruising along at 50ish and you get on it, yes, it will deliver a lot less torque. But from 0 mph it’s got way, way more torque than even the GS can touch.

@jimjr9143

2 ай бұрын

I figured as reviewing these quite a bit that that was known . Torque on electric rides is always most from a dead stop or from riding starting off very slow . Not on the high end of speed .

Goddamn the pov camera quality is fantastic, did yammie get a GoPro upgrade?

14:36 I was seriously considering the Zero but I hesitated, because you are right about the poodling around feeling. That's why I opted for the electric unicycle instead. It gives more of a 125cc vibe and a more connected feel to the road at least for city commuting it works.

If Scooters went through the evolution process

Zero electric vehicles, cars and motorcycles until the battery's get ALOT better and safer than they are now!! Love your vids still though Yammie!!

Meanwhile Cardo just took a play out of ZERO's book and added microtransactions to their new headset..

You should be able to tune the regenerative braking so that it stops better. A plus side is that it also recovers more energy relative to mass and inertia.

@protonus

Жыл бұрын

You can actually adjust Neutral Regen (regen that happens when you let go of the throttle aka engine braking) and Brake Regen (regen that happens when you touch either brake lever) separately on a Zero, and they're adjustable from 0% to 100% in your custom riding modes.

I'm shopping for my first motorcycle. I just got my endorsement on my DL, because I took the basic class a couple weeks ago. I have my eye on a new Yamaha R3 or MT03, that they have in stock at a dealership about five minutes from where I live, but I found some decent used options on Craigslist too. I found a 2005 R1 for six grand, which I know would be insane for me to buy as my first motorcycle, but it looks soooo cool, or a 2006 FZ6 for $3,500, which would be a much more practical choice for me, though that might still be a little too powerful for me. The problem is that I have always wanted a sport bike, but a naked bike or a sport touring one like the FZ6 would be more comfortable. A friend of a friend also said he would sell me his old Yamaha Virago 250 for a grand, which is awesome, but I really want a sport bike. I guess the obvious solution is for me to just buy the 250 now, and practice on that for a while and go from there. Maybe I'll get a bonus soon at work or something, and then be able to afford the used R1 or FZ6, and just have two motorcycles.

You know what else doesn't end well on the yammie noob channel a 600cc super sport

How can any bike be called an adventure touring if you can only go 35 miles in either direction?

Torque is managed so you dont wheelspin on take off

soulcrushing sadness !!!! ..wellput .. only .. I m 55 and i ve never been a real petrolhead ..but rode million miles easy on my bikes .. I m so happy with electric .. it just feels so powerfully primitive !!! love it .. test a zero fx you ll love it for fun ..

My biggest question, how do u recycle electric vehicles? 60 yo truck can still go down the road, safely. $30k for a battery in a car? No. $6k for a battery in a bike? If anybody still makes them to fit in 20 years? And where does the energy come from? Carbon is more localized pollution, more controllable

i owned a Zero S for about 2 years and then i got my licence and went to a Kawasaki Z1000SX ... loved the zero experience myself although it was only 11Kw (to be able to ride it with my car licence in Belgium) but i wanted to do roadtrips with friends and not worry about charging. i now own a Kia EV6 full electric car and love it to bits. i can see myself getting an electric bike one day again for sure ! i'm not a "loud pipes" guy anyway ... and shifting is fun but the "meh" is strong :) commuting electrically is tons of fun.

I've had a zero fx for about 4 years. I love the bike but hate the company. Three relatively minor issues with the bike were met with "zero" help from the company. I waited for an OEM part for over two months during riding season and finally gave up and took the bike to another dealer. Zero was doing inventory, apparently for part of that time. Why during riding season, I don't know.

That bike looks like a builder grade plastic tub

Perhaps a larger rear sprocket would give better results with the limiters removed

They make the best electric motorcycles

LOL, I'm 68 and have owned a DSR Black Forest for 4 years. '...middleweight...'. I still think of middleweight as in the 350-550 range :D

Good video, and the improvements seem like a positive step. But ... still hard to fathom how something with such short range and long recharge time can dub itself an ADV, regardless of how it looks or how well it handles curvy roads. Until those fundamental issues are solved, E-bikes are best suited for (very expensive) local commuting.

@lancesharpe6163

11 ай бұрын

Not an adv at all if you ask me :/

75 miles on the highway with a 17,3 kwh battery ? That is surprisingly low. I get about 100 miles with my zero DS with a 14,4 kwh battery on the highway. And about 140 miles on regular routes.

Transmissions multiply torque. Electric motors don't usually have transmission. Also, electric motors have perfectly flat and horizontal torque lines, so it feels like you don't gain any power after initial acceleration. Flat torque curves are ideal for linear power delivery and steady acceleration, but it's boring beyond very low speeds.

Price n range... full pass for me.

Great review, very thorough however I was really hoping for some thoughts about its exhaust system.

That range is what kills it for me. My $5k royal enfield can go almost 300 miles on a single tank. That full tank costs me less than $10 at nearly $5 a gallon

That scratch on the right hand side is really distracting lol!! Yeet on!!

Mate. You realy need to try a Energica ;)

Anyone ever thought to put gears on an electric motorcycle? Not an engineer or nothin but I wonder what that concept would look like or how/if you can gain range or performance if that kind of technology was implemented.

@willburk

Жыл бұрын

Brammo did it. Not sure what, if any, the benefits were.

You can't compare torque figures between different engine technologies. For an electric, the quoted torque is measured at the drive sprocket, while ICE torque is measured at the crank (before the gearbox). Also, electric motors have their max torque at 0rpm, and it only goes down as thy spin faster.

I think people focus on getting 100% charge too much. Im betting you can reach 80% charge pretty darn quick then be on your way.

Could it be that ev manufacturers are advertising the rated moter tourqe spec rather than the effective tourqe as-built?

Just a random bbq out in the middle of nowhere, nothing to see here. While being a "neat" bike, I'd take my 890 Adventure over it, gas money isn't a concern especially when you're talking about 15k dollar difference so what is the benefit of having an electric ADV?

ADV / Touring does not = EV.... It just doesn't. $24k is easily 1250GS money. I am all for EVs, but they don't make sense for touring.

Torque is a measure of force over time. Since electric is immediate the torque is higher however you don’t feel it.

lol bro you need to be in sport mode to feel the torque

Off road without clutch is like an egg without salt

Please stop saying 'honestly' so many times during monologue... We tend to question your honesty after the 5th time...even tho' we love you, Yam...

voom available in the state I just moved to, luckyme

It kinda reminds me the look of the Yamaha TDM.

So Yammie is liking an Electronic bike... and has been throwing a lot of shade on the R6. What is going on here??

Get an Energica Experia next

I find it so frustrating that manufacturers don't use dynamometers to test their vehicle power and torque numbers.

I hate the charging time display. It's not linear. The last 10% from 90%-100% takes 30+ minutes. You would have been up to 90% in 30 minutes or less. Never charge to 100% when you're making a charging stop, and always try getting the battery down to the last 10%. The fastest charging happens between 10% and 60% and the slowest charging from 90% to 100%.

Sr x is thee bike I would buy but they won’t produce it

Charging to 80% is faster, the last 20% takes longer, don't know why but that is what some Tesla owners have told me.

The lack of range during highway use and the current state of charging infrastructure in the states makes buying this as a true ADV bike a non-starter until battery tech advances.

Any bike meant to be a TOURING bike needs to go at least 200 miles or dont bother making it. Until then, its just a commuter.

The $15k difference in price will buy a lot of gas. When the price of the bike is reasonable, it might be worth it. Especially since recharging it takes so long. The EV tech will get better, but I'll let some other people suffer through the early adoption right now

Energica is where it's at!

@Zee216

Жыл бұрын

They have the edge currently

@seandeterman2499

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! They're nuts!

@RandomVidz9_

Жыл бұрын

Don’t they overheat?

@seandeterman2499

Жыл бұрын

@Random Vidz from what I understand, they don't have an overheating issue because they're liquid cooled, unlike their air-cooled counterparts

An ADV tourer that can’t tour. Hmm. Well, it might make for a nice commuter. Especially in Texas, where the heat coming off an ICE power plant can literally fry your huevos. But not at that price. Man, that’s awfully spendy for what you get.

I think that electric vehicles in general are not a very good idea based on range, reliability, and money spent. But at least with a car it makes some semblance of sense. At least with the car you’re getting more than 80 miles worth of range if you do it right. But I could definitely see how they would be boring to drive.

These electric bikes seem to be completely deficient in anything that makes motorcycling fun. I get it for inner city commuting, but nothing else.

There’s charging stations everywhere and still growing long trips wouldn’t be too much of problem, for a fairly new technology coming out I’d say it holds up well to a gas motorcycle, for example when gas motorcycles came out it wasn’t as good and to spec to modern gas motorcycle, so it’s like comparing tech that’s been around for so long and tech that just came out

I have put 5000 miles on my 2021 SR/F in the past 8 and a half months of ownership. There are good and bad points to everything. This is what I have figured out about Zeros in my personal experience. The preset ride modes are trash to anyone who actually knows how to ride. Where these might be fine for beginners (I would never recommend these bikes for beginners, intermediate is where these fall) the modes don't allow the user to quickly change how the bike behaves like a clutch and standard transmission do on and ICE bike. But what I have come to realize is you just need to create one simple new mode withe all parameters maxed out. Nine of the preset rider modes for Zeros go beyond 65% of the torque capabilities, thats why it feels underwhelming. The horsepower is only at 90% on sport and canyon mode, so that is also underwhelming. Now you do run the risk of yeeting yourself into oblivion by releasing the electric nannies which is why I say this is an intermediate rider experience. On my SR/F I average 110 miles per charge and I weight in at 325lbs. I ride combined miles city and highway on the outskirts of east Atlanta, Gwinnett county. You will never get that visceral feeling an ICE bike will give you, but when programmed correctly, people can have a great and enjoyable riding experience, and I know I will continue to use mine as a daily commuter (50 miles per day, charge at home every 2 days), and be so much happier than being in the rolling cage for 2 hours of my day. And as a side note I traded in a $400.00 gas allowance for an increase of 8 dollars in my electric bill per month, meaning the difference covers my $356.00/month note, still leaving me with more money in my pocket and more smiles on my face.

@Acemechanicalservices

Жыл бұрын

$100 a week for gas? C’mon now.

@jasonrich9618

Жыл бұрын

@@Acemechanicalservices yes thats very easy to do commuting to work, running kids around and doing things on the weekend. My wife put 20k miles a year on her audi s5 for work alone and that gas cost us 500 per month once you added in the non work miles, and if you add in oil changes and other maintenance that electric vehicles don't need, they work well and actually make financial sense as long as you can charge at home...if you are doing long hauls its probably not going to work for you yet. Maybe you don't see it working for you, but your situation is unique to you, mine is unique to me. I'm just letting people know my real world situation and results.

@Acemechanicalservices

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonrich9618 I thought you meant you were putting $100 a week into a motorcycle.

@jasonrich9618

Жыл бұрын

@@Acemechanicalservices No, I replaced my commute in my 1500 Chevy silverado with the electric bike, after we realized how much we saved replacing my wife's Audi s5 with a Mustang MachE.

@hawkmasters11

9 ай бұрын

Plus miles you aren't putting on your other vehicles. That's why I'm getting a dsrx as my daily commuter. I'll be saving tons on gas driving 4-5daus per week that driving my truck

pretty sad that a "selling point" is no features locked behind a paywall.

And still everyone forgot is a Zero anti repair company whats a deal breaker for me

Adv with a belt.......😂 Belt + Stick = Stuck on the trail

@protonus

Жыл бұрын

There is a chain kit available from this bike as an option before you even take delivery, along with spoked wheels. The belt is wider than on previous models and also much stronger, and it's made with carbon-kevlar so about the only way it snaps is a really botched jump attempt. I've yet to hear of anyone breaking a belt on a DSR/X fwiw.

Yooooo!

Electric torque is highest near zero RPM. What you feel from a single geared roll-on test, @~50mph won''t meet the spec. And please, with the "soul crushing". Focus on speed, throttle modulation, performance. Don't take prisoners, or get flakey.

$25k bike with 85 mile range and 2 hours to recharge for another 85 mile range. This will not be successful till the energy density of the batteries at least doubles. 35-40 KWH battery with 250 kW fast charge rate and the same weight, probably 5 years away.

You should have charged at least 10 min to see whether the load time dropped (significantly) or not. There's a dynamic loading system going on in both the charging station and the bike. Clearly a 'noob' (OOPSIE!) in charging electric vehicles. The 'load timer' will most likely reduce rather than increase over time. Other than that, I highly appreciate your content Yammie ;)

@yammienoob

Жыл бұрын

It was actually my first time ever charging an electric vehicle at a station like that! Good to know

The PartyS...Over...⁉️.

Range and charge time make electric motorcycles useless for me. It could be a decent commuter, however I'm not paying big money just to have a second bike just for commuting.

YAMMIE!!! Go over to gsxer brah, he responded. Spoiler- he’s taking u up on track offer!!! But has to be equal same bikes and you with waited vest to equal his weight. Hit him up!!!! I want to see this race!!!!! 😁😁😁🎉🎉🎉