I Found Two Extremely Rare 90's Macs (at VCFMW!)

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I just got back from VCF Midwest 18 2023, where I found two of the rarest Macs ever made - a Daystar Genesis MP clone from 1995 with FOUR processors, and a Mac IIfx.
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  • @johnrickard8512
    @johnrickard85128 ай бұрын

    I'm definitely glad that Colin's super rare Mac found a home it deserves.

  • @DryPaperHammerBro

    @DryPaperHammerBro

    8 ай бұрын

    Time to ruin it!

  • @BilisNegra

    @BilisNegra

    8 ай бұрын

    I have ultra terrible memory. Why did Colin not want to keep it?

  • @gatecityradio

    @gatecityradio

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BilisNegra He recently did a couple of videos on it and he was having all kinds of issues with the cpu card. You could tell in the videos he was super frustrated with it, which if you watch his videos you know he's very chill. He did eventually find the issue and fix it. If I had to guess he let it go because of that frustration lol. I suggest checking those videos out, they're pretty good.

  • @Rabbit_AF
    @Rabbit_AF8 ай бұрын

    I was like, is that Colin's!? And it is!

  • @robsquared2

    @robsquared2

    8 ай бұрын

    I was just about to comment that at the start :D

  • @TheGlitchyMario

    @TheGlitchyMario

    8 ай бұрын

    I was thinking that too!

  • @iSamYTisHere

    @iSamYTisHere

    8 ай бұрын

    yeah i was thinking how the hell he got it and this is the answer i was looking for

  • @mikemillerdesign

    @mikemillerdesign

    8 ай бұрын

    I hate that I knew this

  • @Rabbit_AF

    @Rabbit_AF

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mikemillerdesign Colin: I'm selling it! Sean: I'm buying it!

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared28 ай бұрын

    The brotherhood of the traveling Daystar, the nerdy version of the sisterhood of the traveling pants.

  • @TylerFurrison
    @TylerFurrison8 ай бұрын

    The $7 camera really makes it look vintage, especially the picture portion

  • @mryon314159
    @mryon3141598 ай бұрын

    At the risk of spoiling the surprise, BeOS is quite happy running on that Daystar. I wish I could post a jpg in the comments. I've got a great screenshot I did in 1998 of my Daystar running Sheepshaver -> MacOS 7.5 -> DOS -> Win 3.11 -> a Mac Plus emulator -> a CP/M emulator.

  • @_FRworld_
    @_FRworld_8 ай бұрын

    Hi! On your day star you should try running strata studio pro 1.75 blitz. It's the 3D software cyan used to make Myst, and the 1.75 blitz version is said to be optimized to fully use the 604 processor and it's MP variants. I'd really love a side by side comparison of how renders are handled by this machine against a regular 604 mac.

  • @ericbauer4559
    @ericbauer45598 ай бұрын

    So glad you ended up with that MP!

  • @HeadsetGuy
    @HeadsetGuy8 ай бұрын

    It was awesome to finally meet you in person at this year's VCF! I'm sorry we didn't have more time to talk, other than just a handshake and "I love your videos".

  • @trains4ourkids
    @trains4ourkids8 ай бұрын

    The IIfx was the dream as a teen Mac fan, and remains so to this day. Was the peak of the 68000 Mac era.

  • @bouncypear_net
    @bouncypear_net8 ай бұрын

    It was a pleasure meeting you at VCFMW, I was that goof in the beige suit and floppy hair! Looking forward to seeing more of the Daystar!

  • @ShiggitayMediaProductions
    @ShiggitayMediaProductions8 ай бұрын

    From the moment I saw that DayStar Genesis MP I instantly knew who its previous owner was. Hi Colin/ThisDoesNotCompute! Cool find. I'm curious to see if BeOS will even install on there (ofc it'll fail many times because this IS ActionRetro lol) and whether or not it'll have issues with the quad CPU card in there... If I had it I'd try and XPostFacto install Mac OS X to see if it'd install/even run properly, since Mac OS X loves multi-cores and seeing it run on a quad-604e would be interesting. Also, I don't live in the Midwest nor can I get out there easily, so I ofc wasn't there at VCFMW, but an appearance at VCF East 2024 is a possibility... I'll see what I can manage. Great video! Thanks for the shoutout as always too!

  • @memsom

    @memsom

    8 ай бұрын

    There is no point is doing anything but installing BeOS on this thing. Nothing else will do it justice. If he were to change the processors for a G3 is just becomes another tsunami based computer. Might as well save that for a 9500

  • @memsom

    @memsom

    8 ай бұрын

    If he uses the R5 image I made for him it will work just fine.

  • @yjk_ch

    @yjk_ch

    8 ай бұрын

    One of Colin's videos did briefly show BeOS running on the machine with all four PPCs detected if I remember correctly.

  • @memsom

    @memsom

    8 ай бұрын

    @@yjk_ch maybe years ago, not recently.

  • @RetroTechChris
    @RetroTechChris8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the shout out in the description! Always great to see you!!

  • @kingtom
    @kingtom8 ай бұрын

    As cool as those powerhouse macs are (and they ARE cool!), I think my favorite part was all the bitcrunched pictures you took at VCF Midwest. They had that signature 90s digital camera look that gave it such a nostalgic feeling. Great vid!

  • @shepherdosterompton

    @shepherdosterompton

    8 ай бұрын

    Are these posted in an album somewhere?

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz8 ай бұрын

    Not an apple guy but that tower one kinda looks cool

  • @Toonrick12

    @Toonrick12

    8 ай бұрын

    Ironically, the tower ISN'T an Apple.

  • @carltonleboss

    @carltonleboss

    8 ай бұрын

    It's really cool, I love multi-CPU rigs.

  • @timmooney7528
    @timmooney75288 ай бұрын

    I missed it this year. I did get a hold of a vcf forum member passing through my area, and he took my PET-2001 to give to someone who could appreciate it more. I also gave away my Disney Sound Source and an XT/AT kv (keyboard and video, no mouse) switcher.

  • @breakallthethings

    @breakallthethings

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh, i think I saw who that PET went to! It went to a great home.

  • @timmooney7528

    @timmooney7528

    8 ай бұрын

    @@breakallthethings Sweet! The guy who delivered it said the guy who grabbed it needed one for his collection. It needed a character rom and a few other roms. The tape drive had to be re-belted, too. I'm sure it went to someone who would appreciate it.

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima6388 ай бұрын

    Very jealous of your IIfx. These were the Mac Pro (2019) of their day; ludicrously expensive and intended only for the absolute top end power user. This thing is packed with extra processors. They spared no expense.

  • @LlamasWithiMacs
    @LlamasWithiMacs8 ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed meeting you at VCFMW! I don’t think I was there when you got the IIfx, but it was neat to watch you fiddle with the Thinkpad on Saturday.

  • @jacobmckenna8661
    @jacobmckenna86618 ай бұрын

    The perfect 90s tech masterpiece to share a name with my grandmother's car.

  • @Silent700
    @Silent7008 ай бұрын

    Score! As a guy who doesn't get that excited about the platform, I think the 90s was an exciting era for Macs. Third parties making stuff like the Daystar, and all the other weird peripherals in the MacMall catalog that you'd never find for the PC, are things you don't see much of anymore.

  • @JaredConnell

    @JaredConnell

    8 ай бұрын

    Mac mall and mac connection were full of crazy stuff I always wanted even if I didn't know what half of it was and definitely couldn't afford on my allowance and lawn mowing money at the time lol

  • @breakallthethings
    @breakallthethings8 ай бұрын

    Great to meet you at VCFMW! Thanks for doing such awesome stuff. Loved the montage. :)

  • @jezebelmei195
    @jezebelmei1958 ай бұрын

    Was hoping to say 'hi' at VCF Midwest, couldn't seem to find ya. Hope you had a good time in my neck of the woods.

  • @NaoPb
    @NaoPb8 ай бұрын

    I like how you were able to take pictures of the event with your dashcam.

  • @jeffffff
    @jeffffff8 ай бұрын

    the montage at the end had 2008 youtube windows movie maker vibes lol

  • @hyun-shik7327
    @hyun-shik73278 ай бұрын

    I’m so glad I got to see you and a bunch of other KZreadrs at VCF! (You signed my PowerBook)

  • @vilhalmer
    @vilhalmer8 ай бұрын

    I wandered by a bit after the photo was taken and ended up accidentally buying "who hurt u more?" 😆 I've since accidentally knocked the motherboard out the back of the case, turns out ALL the screws were missing… but hey I got a Sound Blaster and a tape drive! If I can get it back together, it'll get a K6-2 and some more RAM and be a decent little Socket 7 machine.

  • @simonro9168
    @simonro91688 ай бұрын

    I love that the less yellowed plastic around the DayStar logo is clearly in the shape of an Apple sticker

  • @sjgrall
    @sjgrall8 ай бұрын

    That IIfx is in AMAZING condition!!! Incredible find!!

  • @-Kaigan-
    @-Kaigan-8 ай бұрын

    It was great to see you at VCFMW! I'm glad you enjoyed our SGI setup. 🙂

  • @ReverendJasper
    @ReverendJasper8 ай бұрын

    I had the Daystar Genesis MP 528+ because a buddy at a computer recycling store saved it for me. We filled every DIMM slot with 8mb sticks. Dell drive rails work in that case, mounted an old 4gb 7200rpm SCSI-SCA drive + adapter. Sold it because I had no workflows that used the multiprocessing abilities.

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss8 ай бұрын

    Nice montage at the end

  • @rivenloya1529
    @rivenloya15298 ай бұрын

    It was fantastic Chatting with you! Your videos Definitely influnenced My purchase of A dual 1.8 G5

  • @iangoodsell
    @iangoodsell8 ай бұрын

    I almost took a job when I graduated Drexel in the early 90s because there was a Mac ii fx on what was to be my desk 😅

  • @jmhuene
    @jmhuene8 ай бұрын

    I saw you briefly on Sunday as I was walking in! 😊 what a cool show. It was awesome to see everyone sharing a common interest in technology. A very powerful feeling!

  • @Windy-
    @Windy-8 ай бұрын

    It was cool meeting you at VCF! Unfortunately, I was pretty awkward haha.

  • @memsom
    @memsom8 ай бұрын

    If you don’t install BeOS you are missing probably the most unobtainium of the 90’s.

  • @memsom

    @memsom

    8 ай бұрын

    Hah.. I’m not disappointed.

  • @TastyBusiness
    @TastyBusiness8 ай бұрын

    Ayyy, its my VIC exhibit at 8:37!

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX-8 ай бұрын

    NIce! Would have loved to go to this event. Some day... Thanks for all the great content.

  • @RiksRandomRetro
    @RiksRandomRetro8 ай бұрын

    Awesome machines, and nice to see you at VCFMW! Such a fantastic show, can't wait for next year.

  • @ActionRetro

    @ActionRetro

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah good seeing you!

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt8 ай бұрын

    Cool! Is the IIfx really that rare? I had no idea! That machine is what made me want to get into retro collecting! I couldn’t find one so I bought an SE and a “regular” II on eBay, but the II had been upgraded to a IIfx! I now have two IIfxes and a regular II among my now vast retro collection! I have a Nubus Ethernet adapter but have not had much success getting it to work. I have videos on my channel of it.

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat8 ай бұрын

    I don't know why but "computers that have had the misfortune of following me home" had me in giggles. Love the silliness. Edit: "A man comprised of exactly 8 bits" had me laughing. Good one!

  • @danaeckel5523
    @danaeckel55238 ай бұрын

    Looks like you had fun, someday I hope to attend. Anyways I am going to be very interested what you do with the IIFX. What rate upgrades exist? And watching it run something like 68 Linux or NetBSD will grab my attention. I have never seen a video featuring the IIFX, so yeah should be great.

  • @bookdork
    @bookdork8 ай бұрын

    It was great to meet you at VCFMW. Glad to see that heavy iron made it home with you.

  • @ironhead2008
    @ironhead20088 ай бұрын

    Back in 1995 I can only imagine how insane that Daystar was. Truly insane power and I Imagine the closest equivalent on the PC side were the ultra high end multiprocessor 440FX based Pentium Pro workstations made by HP.

  • @Core_of_DOOM
    @Core_of_DOOM7 ай бұрын

    I have this lingering déjà vu, that i have seen this tower before, and indeed, i had. It's so cool to see many of KZreadrs you like to follow but in one video, like some classmates after school 😂

  • @ashleypirrone4895
    @ashleypirrone48958 ай бұрын

    Excited for you and BeOS on the Mac clone. :-)

  • @LabCat
    @LabCat8 ай бұрын

    Sorry you picked up the con crud, Sean - but you had fun. I can't wait to see what shenanigans occur with the IIfx. Rest up and get well!

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer29868 ай бұрын

    Beautiful finds!

  • @blodyholy_
    @blodyholy_8 ай бұрын

    Man, this looked like a fun event. Thanks for sharing. Had I been paying closer attention, I'd have made the ~4hr drive. Maybe next year!

  • @Kboyer36

    @Kboyer36

    8 ай бұрын

    It's worth the drive. I have made a ~5 hour drive the last two years to go up and it's amazing.

  • @blodyholy_

    @blodyholy_

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Kboyer36 The footage I’ve seen has proven ‘drool-worthy’ 🤤 On my radar for the next event.

  • @Kboyer36

    @Kboyer36

    8 ай бұрын

    @@blodyholy_ Accurate description although we will see where it's at next year. I would not be surprised if it moves as we have definitely outgrown the current venue.

  • @johansoderberg4211
    @johansoderberg42118 ай бұрын

    Been a subscriber for a long time. Your videos are always interesting and funny. Keep up the good work!

  • @cliff8928
    @cliff89288 ай бұрын

    I saw that IIFX on your table and thought I missed something about it on here. It looks like it’s in extremely good shape.

  • @jaredwright5917
    @jaredwright59178 ай бұрын

    VCF was a good time. So many cool systems to see and play with, and tons of games. I played Wolf3D on the Cursed Mac for a bit while I was there.

  • @T313COmun1s7
    @T313COmun1s78 ай бұрын

    "Not Steve's Daughter" -- Uuhfff! That's cold.

  • @PunkTiger
    @PunkTiger8 ай бұрын

    That "Not Apple II" computer in the montage looks like an OSI Challenger (Challenger 4P, maybe?)

  • @dobcast6009
    @dobcast60098 ай бұрын

    awesome Macs, keep up the good vids 👍

  • @minty_Joe
    @minty_Joe8 ай бұрын

    @Action Retro Install Mac OS 8.6 on it to take even more advantage of the multiprocessor capabilities! And go full on SSD with it. Maybe see if there's a G4 CPU card upgrade.

  • @mrgrumpy888
    @mrgrumpy8888 ай бұрын

    I can't wait for that BeOS video!

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans86568 ай бұрын

    That Genesis reminds of my first gaming computer build, a Windows 98 box, that I put in a monster, hell for stout case.

  • @Selcukluemirss
    @Selcukluemirss8 ай бұрын

    Can you make an “must have apps on PowerPC Macs in 2023” video I would be very pleased!🙏

  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo8 ай бұрын

    Hopefully next year the con is laid out better. I missed you and colin?! Dang. I picked up a Dell 8100. Beast of a laptop

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight8 ай бұрын

    that complete IIfx was a pretty damn good $400 purchase tbh.

  • @10MARC
    @10MARC8 ай бұрын

    Do you think BeOS will support the four CPU's in that Daystar? I suspect the board is to proprietary for it to see more than one CPU.

  • @Jabjabs

    @Jabjabs

    8 ай бұрын

    It is a very fair point. It is one thing to have 4 CPU's but if it doesn't map in a standard fashion then other OS's will not see it. Like the customer software merely to get Photoshop to see it on Mac OS. Hopefully we are wrong.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo20038 ай бұрын

    Quite the PowerPC blast!

  • @gabrielvazquez6081
    @gabrielvazquez60818 ай бұрын

    That's the Mac Clone from This Does Not Compute!

  • @89ry89
    @89ry898 ай бұрын

    Kaonashi? You have some fine taste in music my friend.

  • @Chopperapachegaming2024
    @Chopperapachegaming20248 ай бұрын

    Macintosh iifx first boot and review! (Well coming soon...)

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss8 ай бұрын

    128MB was a ludicrous amount of RAM in 1990, IIRC most PC didn't get that much until the late 90s/early 2000s

  • @Toonrick12

    @Toonrick12

    7 ай бұрын

    Would that be like 128GB in 2023?

  • @Kboyer36
    @Kboyer368 ай бұрын

    There was also a Motorola branded clone on a table outside before you even got into the venue but I know it sold pretty early in the day.

  • @DanielMReck
    @DanielMReck8 ай бұрын

    These Macs are SOLID

  • @nysaea
    @nysaea8 ай бұрын

    11/10 best slideshow captions

  • @johncate9541
    @johncate95418 ай бұрын

    Nah, no BeOS. Give that CPU daughtercard to dosdude and have him put four G4s on it, then install OS X with XPF and create the fastest Daystar Genesis MP that will ever exist.

  • @flekkzo
    @flekkzo8 ай бұрын

    I’m amazed how much that camera’s video look like genuinely old film. Maybe a bit too saturated. I can see someone artistically inclined filming a movie with that one :)

  • @BuddhaPhi
    @BuddhaPhi8 ай бұрын

    Awesome vid! This morning was browsing FB Marketplace and saw someone selling a boxed Umax Supermac c600 with manuals for $25. Sadly it sold almost immediately to someone else. Not as rare but I've never seen one with the box.

  • @baconfister
    @baconfister8 ай бұрын

    I remember going halves with my dad plopping down a whopping $16,000.00 to buy RAM in 1991 to max out our two Mac IIfx machines. We made our money using Photoshop with them, so the extra RAM was necessary. Didn’t hurt that we also were each using the expensive as hell Photoshop Accelerator Cards.

  • @JaredConnell

    @JaredConnell

    8 ай бұрын

    Photoshop accelerator cards? Never seen those, do you remember what they were called??

  • @DanaDoesStuff
    @DanaDoesStuff8 ай бұрын

    GENESSIIIISSS ❤ … potato-cam for the win!

  • @waydegutman7339
    @waydegutman73398 ай бұрын

    Nice haul.

  • @danielrhodes7594
    @danielrhodes75948 ай бұрын

    I think these are awesome computers. I do not understand why apple did not put a 2x350mhz in the Apple 9600 instead of just 2x200. It would have been an awesome competitor to the Daystar Genesis MP! I am still looking for a MacIIfx myself.

  • @wallyhackenslacker
    @wallyhackenslacker8 ай бұрын

    Bear PC cameo heck yeah!!

  • @PCBWay
    @PCBWay8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for the recap, Sean.i It seems like a BLAST there!

  • @FintanMoloney
    @FintanMoloney8 ай бұрын

    I thought it was cool that you got this system from Colin. His channel and yours are my favourite for old school tech content. :-D

  • @morecrappysketches
    @morecrappysketches7 ай бұрын

    I have a Daystar Genesis MP 800+, but I'd say the Maxxboxx is probably a rarer find. You could also get those in quads.

  • @apocalyptosoldier5527
    @apocalyptosoldier55278 ай бұрын

    You had me at ring ring thing

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere3 ай бұрын

    That camera seems to be using a pinhole, instead of a lens, as a light aperture. Very likely, given the price.

  • @caprature
    @caprature8 ай бұрын

    That marathon g4 is interesting. I have no idea where the top handle came from. But I thought it was interesting and could be cool to someone at vcf. When I got the machine I thought it would be a CAD or specialized build. But turns out just a 933MHZ g4 and 1GB ram. With an ati rage. Still neat none the less for that was curbled

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd8 ай бұрын

    please please see how many machines that daystar processor card will run in, i would love to see that.

  • @Jaxermd
    @Jaxermd8 ай бұрын

    Please do 6 monitors on the IIFX, always wanted to see that!

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai8 ай бұрын

    I got the $7 cam but the low resolution version came. Still, I added a focus adjustment to it.

  • @ryzen_9-3900xt
    @ryzen_9-3900xt8 ай бұрын

    so i'm just watching this mp just go from KZread to youtube channel i thought he was joking about selling it

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk8 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I wish I lived in the US. These meetups seem like great fun.

  • @Telefoon-bi9wf
    @Telefoon-bi9wf8 ай бұрын

    Its walter white yo! 10:35

  • @datPinto
    @datPinto8 ай бұрын

    Yo Philly, represent!

  • @mingzhezhang2992
    @mingzhezhang29928 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe Colin sold it

  • @ShiggitayMediaProductions

    @ShiggitayMediaProductions

    8 ай бұрын

    I mean he was having issues with it, even though he fixed it... I guess he didn't have room or the need for it anymore?

  • @jaubuchon28
    @jaubuchon288 ай бұрын

    Nice king of the hill kaypro reference

  • @allycat7699
    @allycat76998 ай бұрын

    when i saw colin say he was gonna sell it i knew you'd end up with it lol

  • @michaelmullett7327
    @michaelmullett73278 ай бұрын

    ok Action I love the Clone!

  • @derekw6811
    @derekw68118 ай бұрын

    Can't believe Colin sold it!

  • @AerinRavage
    @AerinRavage8 ай бұрын

    STIII Alien: Genesis? McCoy: Yes, Genesis! Also, y1k compliant made me laugh =^.^=

  • @scottharvey-davies1607
    @scottharvey-davies16078 ай бұрын

    Love the post video pics... in thier nokia vga state of the art for the 90"s style... ;)

  • @Kennephone
    @Kennephone2 ай бұрын

    The $7 camera wouldn't be as bad if the lens was able to focus.

  • @macpb2892
    @macpb28928 ай бұрын

    recap the IIfx, there is 2 electo smt near the ram, and change the axial cap too.

  • @Toad17028
    @Toad170288 ай бұрын

    lol king of the hill refrence with the Kaypro? you were taller than I expected IRL

  • @Toad17028

    @Toad17028

    8 ай бұрын

    CRUSTY!! that Mac they torture tested would have been a good "who hurt u" pic

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