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You have done a wonderful service to your viewers!!!!

Great overview sir! And great series & service to all you viewers with your deep dive into the compact tractor world. My 2860M PREMIUM Series MF cost $53,000 dollars at a zero percent interest deal.. the price didn’t change for the zero interest. Feature Items mine has that you didn’t mention are. 1) Air suspension seat, ( this is a big deal to me ). 2) LED light package front and rear on upper lights. 3) full front windshield pull down sun shade. 4) Radio system ( not just speakers ). 5) full rear glass window electric defogger. 6). ALL doors and windows are equipped with shock absorbers. Also, just like you I didn’t like the top suspended push away pedals at first….. that said when I started using the machine and stacking up the hours…. I now prefer them! The are easy to reach and don’t have the resistance that all other hydro pedals seem to have to push. I find that I like the close pedals as I do not have to pick up my foot to switch pedals. I have blown thru 60 trouble free hours to date and most all of these hours are loader work. Good luck in your pick for your NEW CAB tractor…. Of ALL the brands & Models that you have show cased if it were just a money decision it is hands down LS or TYM. With the other big factors to consider like dealer location, dealer size & experience & service reputation, tractor feature package you are actually getting and WANT and color & looks. It gets really blurry. Looking forward to seeing your NEW TRACTOR ASAP!! Again congratulations on and extremely well done and great series!! 👍👍🔥🔥

Thank you for helping Doss Farms. Thanks

Love the Massey, loved em all the way back to the 60s,( MF 65-85) lots of cool features, price is a little high, that being said " You get what you pay for". Looks like a quality piece.

I love this series on comparing tractors! 😊

@RockhillfarmYT

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

I have an 1835M, that one's little brother, but open station, shuttle shift and 3 cylinder. I love it! Does more than you would think it can do. Good vid!

@D2500R

2 ай бұрын

I have the same but hydro. I love mine too

It's often mentioned that dealership support is an influencing factor in a tractor purchase. When a guy is going to do a free 20 minute overview for your potential customers and you can't be bothered to get out of your seat and get into the parking lot it probably isn't a good look. Thanks for the overview Brock.. too bad they couldn't be bothered to send out a sales rep... I've driven off lots like that and right over to the competition even though I wanted to buy from them.

My prediction, The TYM T547C will get the nod. Lift capacity, price and good dealer nearby.

Here in Ontario,Canada,I priced a New Massey against KIOTI,KUBOTA.The price difference was 2000.00 from the Kubota on the comparible Massey tractor.Although im a KUBOTA owner,I think when it was all said and done,KIOTI was the clear winner when it came to Price,warranty and features for the dollar.

Thanks for sharing with Doss Farms.

I have a 1999 1240 MF with 4000 hours. The only thing I've had to replace is tires, a battery and a few hoses. Pretty good tractor in my opinion.

I owned a 15hp diesel 1986 Bolens made by Iseki. I replaced it with a 25hp Massey that is made by Iseki. The only problem I had with the Bolens all these years was the three point arms piston seals wore out. Everything else worked reliably all those years. I ended up giving that Bolens away to a neighbor who is new to tractoring and needed a tractor. Iseki has been around since 1926 and sells agricultural equipment worldwide. If I remember correctly, they’ve been building tractors since the early 60s.

I'm new to tractors and your videos and the comment section of your videos have been a great education for me.

Nice review, looks like a well engineered machine.

We have a 1635 a 4608 and a 4610m .love em. Looked at every color .Massey was the nicest of them all IMO.

I've had a 2850M for a couple years now, I've put about 250 hours on it and have been thoroughly impressed with it. The only issue I've had was from operator error while trying to lift a stump that was still rooted in the ground and tweaked my loader arms

Brock, hats off to you for this whole series!! Really appreciate you getting all these reviews out there!!

@RockhillfarmYT

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

It looks like a good tractor. However I think a mid PTO adds expense for little benefit. Most potential buyers would benefit from two or three rear hydraulic remotes instead.

Way to go Brock. Another good review. Jus don't know where ya get the time. Thanks

Excellent service thanks Brock!! I used to play alot of baseball and pitch.I wish I were younger and take a look at those pitching mounds you sold.

One feature that I just love on my John Deere is the ability to control the 3 point hitch on the fender so I can move the tractor front or back and move the hitch up or down from the fender

I have had my 2860 for almost 3 years love it. Has done ever thing I have asked it to do. Run a 72" land plane, 12ft bat wing woods brush hog. Seems a little under powered or hydrolic pressure when digging with the front bucket. But think it relates to the soil type more than anything.

I love the small tool box also

About time you got a real tractor. My dad had a 60hp on his small farm. Loved it. Never gave us any trouble.

I'm glad Chad from Doss farms sent me over here. I will try to watch your videos, from now on.

I'm so excited to see you got to check out a Massey 2800 series! Your few complaints are the same as mine, but this series is my favorite compact/utility tractor and Iseki diesels have never let me down.

Love the quarter panel windows and the most useless thing in my JD is the radio

Brock. Thank for the information. Massey I feel has always made a quality product. I do like some of their innovation. Just wish they where cheaper.

I love the neutral setting of the pto on my 3039R. Makes it a lot easier to hook up my MX 5 BUSH HOG.

My Massey subcompact has the ability to put the PTO in neutral. It is very helpful for connecting the shaft for my tiller. I really liked that tractor, I just don't need one that big.

Nice video, always fair.

We have had masseys since the early 60's ,love them 👍

The MF 2860M is definitely an attractive compact tractor.

that option to turn the pto shaft would be wonderful

Love my Massey!

I've been researching this same model in open station configuration. I've noticed my local dealer has several of these still on the lot anywhere from 2021 models up to 2024 models. I don't believe Massey markets very well to the homesteader size tractors. There website could use some work and clarity on base prices. I do believe it's a solid made tractor now that iseki builds all the drive train/ engine components.

@tman8939

2 ай бұрын

same opinion of MF marketing, could be better for smaller market tractor. MF has such a large line up on equipment the small tractor is over looked by MF.

@W1ldt1m

2 ай бұрын

Agreed after just buying a 25 horse Massey was underfeatured and over priced. That seems to reverse in the larger ag sizes.

I've had the 1760M for 5 years and 500 hrs... They are great tractors! Super easy to self maintain, fantastic features, and plenty powerful. The 2 knobs by the cruise control are awesome. One allows you to set how aggressively the hydro transmission engages. Super easy to set the engagement to exactly what you want based on what you're doing. I use more aggressive (fast torqy) for loader work and less aggressive for mowing when i want a subtle smooth engagement to avoid damaging the grass... The 1700s shipped with a Shibura engine which has no DPF and no regen all the way up to 60hp. The overhead light you thought may be beacons, is just a red light for non distracting nighttime illumination... Agco has allowed some really awesome big tractor features to trickle down to this class

Great video Brock! I was waiting for this one lol. The button on the dash lets you toggle between pto rpm and wheel speed which is a nice feature on a machine this small to have a digital ground speed indicator. Also for a little more money Massey does offer a premium cab option that brings with it a factory air ride seat, LED cab lighting and sunscreen for front window and heated rear window for ice control. Also next to the loader hookups is your fuel filter in that semi round metal shield, very easy to access and maintain. Not a fan of there location of those hookups when I owned mine but I will say I never had an issue striking them with anything as the front tire pretty much protects objects from striking them going forward. Loving all these videos keep up the good work!

That speed dial beside the crusie control is max speed. You can turn it down to have a lower travel speed but high rpm. Works good for going into a dirt bank. I have the 1835M, open station, hydro. Its an awesome tractor in my opinion.

Good video

the rear tires can be extended out little more - even though steel hubs - could have been cast steel for little more weight

soft ride on loader about 450.00 just had it on mine

That red light in the cab is just a red dome light, if you've never used one they're handy when you need them - red lights illuminate surfaces well with minal reflection so you can turn that on when it's pitch black out without hurting your eyes or illuminating your whole property but you can clearing see any paperwork you're reading/writing.

Kioti or TYM...55k for Massey is why theyve been loosing market share when comparable size frames start at 35k-43k with MORE features than this one.

@billiebruv

2 ай бұрын

Kubota and jd, too

Shaft cover helps keep tall grass from rapping around the Shaft an clothes

I like it , like how you like John 🦌 , because I have a 1963 MF 35 , I'd still get the tym cuz of price ,

The economy version of this tractor has a different loader with more capacity and the hoses are routed out of the way

LS has an optional mid PTO on that size

I'm surprised you were able to find a 2860 cab. they don't seem to make many of them.

I grew up in the funeral business and we used a Massey Fergusson to dig graves and it was a great tractor

The park brake needs to be applied before the external PTO button will engage.

Want a big tractor with old school style and simplicity. Check out the 2600H series. They are 45,55,65, and 73 HP tractors with Massey. Awesome workhorses. They don't play. They get to work.

@user-up6wi5vb2p

Ай бұрын

And they are a huge heavy tractor for a great price.

I'm thinking TYM is what you're going to get. A small chance for you getting a LS. If i went with something besides kubota and a dealer was close enough I would definitely be looking at TYM. I don't need all the extra bells and whistles. The extra options i don't need would be something else to break. I also really like the mechanical injector pump. Im not a common rail fan because its more upkeep and cost more to repair. But I wouldn't mind having a buddy seat.

You gotta do a deutz man

TYM hands down the best deal and just my opinion. The best tractor you have tried and my guess for the tractor that you are going to pick is the TYM 😊

Go with a small frame utility like a case IH 65C or 55a you can get cab or no cab. I also Like the Massey 2607H series tough tractors. If your getting into sawmilling ect u will like the added beef… coming from a large frame compact utility nhT2310 into a case ih 90C what maxes out a large frame compact will be a walk in the park for a small frame utility.

@RockhillfarmYT

3 күн бұрын

I ended up with a TYM 574. I just sold my large frame Skid steer but I also have a small John Deere compact tractor and a mini skid steer.

@user-gc6tc2uj5y

3 күн бұрын

Sorry haven’t watched you for a while it seems you have the perfect suite of machines then! Congrats

"Hey I am going to come out and give you a bunch of free marketing, and thousands of views, do you have a couple minutes to fill in my knowledge gaps" "No sorry, I am having a coffee."

Having a mid-PTO in a larger tractor sounds odd, but if you are mowing a large park, or other types of grounds the mid-PTO would be great I guess, although I thought someone going after a tractor for that large mowing scale they might want a batwing mower, or larger 3 point finish mower of some sort.

@sewerman911

2 ай бұрын

Front snowblower was probably the main reason to have it. Having 72" plus upfront you could get alot done quick.

What about case IH,

Neighbor can’t wait to get rid of his year old Massey, biggest complaint is won’t go up slight hill with load in bucket in mid range.

@genewilliams7497

2 ай бұрын

I’d say he has a mechanical problem for sure… my 2860M is a rocket ship in mid range which is the working range. Hope he finds the issue I love mine

I thought I saw an extra cylinder on the 3 point on the left side of the PTO, was that a hydraulic down pressure cylinder?

@donaldstrishock3923

2 ай бұрын

That is a "booster-rocket" only extra "boost" fer extree "Up lift" magnification.

I like those front fenders

CaseIH. Farmall?

High from Doss Farms

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT a TYM 16.9 × 24 is Higher / Larger in total diameter than the 17.5 × 24 on this Massey-Ferguson 1860 Tractor ; the Fenders sit HIGH because the TRANSMISSION IS Huge, and is Elevated for this Reason. PLUS::: [ case in point] Massey-Ferguson offers a TEN YEAR POWER-TRANE Warrenty for A Extra 500.°°$ at time of Purchase....almost Too good / So they MUST BE This GREAT!

@RockhillfarmYT

2 ай бұрын

I know that it has bigger tires. I parked it directly next to the LS tractor which has the same tires as the Massey Ferguson. I also parked right next to the bobcat 5558 that has the same tires as the Massey Ferguson. I’ve been checking tire size on all these tractors, and all of them are the same size tires except for the TYM, which are a little bit bigger. The cab on the TYM also sets higher than the Massey. It almost needs two steps to get in the tractor I’m not saying it’s a better Tractor because that’s subjective. The Massey could be better for all I know. But I am telling you it sits higher. The TYM has a six-year warranty on the powertrain.

@donaldstrishock3923

2 ай бұрын

@@RockhillfarmYT Thank you Mr. Brock; this was a very Fast response.!! Just got my "Giant Calipers " out & Measured a set of 99.5% 17.5 × 24 Industrial dia. Tires & got 48.5 inches & then another set of 99.5% 14.9 × 24 R1 "power-tracks",& got 47.5 inches. They are both Titan( Good-year) tire sets. This dimension was the "side-with" & not the standing width with the weight of the tractor. I think( know) there are a lot of variables to consider...even some manufacturers have shallow vs. Deep Depth Tread Lugs. Best wishes with all your endeavours on your finale choice.

I wish my JD had the skid steer quick attach system

Not sure if you mentioned the rear wheels are adjustable to different widths

@donaldstrishock3923

2 ай бұрын

Yes, this is a "REAL TRACTOR"....just NOT another "Cheepo Scraponese" Unit." Massey-Ferguson/ the Last Tractor You will Ever Need" ...

@donaldstrishock3923

2 ай бұрын

YES, this is a REAL TRACTOR ( with adjustable rear Wheels) .Not just another "Cheepo-Scrapones" unit. Massey-Ferguson/ " The Last Tractor you will Ever Need".

@RockhillfarmYT

2 ай бұрын

I watched all the review videos I could find and asked 100 questions at a tradeshow about this Tractor. Probably talked to that rep for an hour and a half about these tractors. Nobody ever mentioned the adjustable wheels

@donaldstrishock3923

2 ай бұрын

@@RockhillfarmYT Hey Brock, have the Smaller version of this tractor/ its a 1736m 12×12 power-shuttle, & its a Cadillac-of a Tractor for the last 6 years,& it has preformed flawlessly. Only "one slight problem" the Hydraulic system to the Remotes& Loader are SOOOO Fassssttt because it has a TRANSMISSION-DRIVEN High volume 12.6 Gpm ( standard equipment) pump[ not really a "problem/ but a Plus"]. It is So much faster than my 7 year old "kubogy" MX5200 TLB Shuttle-shift 8×8 tractor ( a Bigger Tractor) with only 9.8 gpm to the loader &remotes. "If" l needed another Tractor of 50-60 hp & money was no-object; l would get a Massey-Ferguson or Yanmar with that "high-faluting" IVCT Transmission.

Off topic but what shirt is that you're wearing?

If it's not red, leave it in the shed 🤪

The price of the new Massey tractors in my area is outrageous. ALMOST as bad as Deere. That’s if you could get someone to call you back. Made the mistake of taking one of mine to the Massey dealer for a hydraulic filter and fluid change because the 3pt was acting up. Got a call after it sitting there for months that they had taken the whole top off the transmission housing because they saw a piece of metal in the sump. Didn’t ask me first. Told me they were $1k into it in labor already and would be another $900 to put it back together plus fluid and a filter and another $1,300 for a new hydraulic pump because mine was bad. I told them to put the parts in a box, and I’d just do it myself. Turned out to be a tooth from the transmission driven pto gear. Someone had pulled the lever the wrong direction while still moving. I adjusted a linkage screw on the hydraulics and the lift worked flawlessly. Removed the transmission drive Pto gear altogether. Never again going to a dealer for repairs unless it’s under warranty.

@W1ldt1m

2 ай бұрын

That’s enough money to start the discussion about unauthorized repairs and legal representation.

@MusicandMachines

2 ай бұрын

@@W1ldt1m, I could tell that they didn’t expect me to refuse. There was a definite moment of silence when I told them to box up the parts and have somebody there to help me get it on the trailer. They at least thought they would get the money for the reassembly. The mechanic, who seemed like a good guy, even told me he thought the pump was probably fine as he handed me the box of parts. think he felt pretty bad about it and was following orders from the service manager.

At the 55k price point......not a chance I'd have the MF.

I am seeing red in your future 😂😂

Only deal with MF is dealers are few and far between.

Im surprised belton is the closest mf store to Columbus

1 st 🤪

@Cowboy_Steve

2 ай бұрын

Yo

@projectswithjw

2 ай бұрын

1925th 😮

They won't let you run through a forest? LOL

I don’t like that Massey

Looks very crammed and uncomfortable. Not a good tractor at all for that price Massey needs to trash that model and come out with something much better. Not impressed with any of economy or under 100 hp masseys. The Koreans are much better at better price.