I know OP said she doesn't blame her parents, but I kinda do. Keeping the sister's alcoholism a secret wasn't in nobody's best interest, except maybe their own to protect their reputation. They knew what was going on between the sisters, and yet they told OP that her sister's relapses were vacations to fancy locations. And they knew OP's marriage had triggered her sister's relapse, and still didn't think this could lead to major confrontations between the two of them, or that the sister might end up doing something stupid or dangerous to OP. I just can't fathom what got them thinking that all of that was a good plan from the beginning.

@MrGrunge62

7 ай бұрын

The parents don't have an alcoholism problem, their daughter does. Thus it's not their place to choose who get to know about it. By speaking about it to OP against their elder daughter's wish (presumably) they risk making her feel betrayed and with nobody to turn to during relapse. To favor the relationship of trust was the way to go, they couldn't really expect OP would do something so wicked.

@shadowmaster335

7 ай бұрын

or, since they knew exactly how they felt about each other, the worst thing the parent's could've done was telling OP that her hated sister had an alcohol addiction, she would defo had used it against her

@andynorck2389

7 ай бұрын

​@@MrGrunge62 I completely disagree, a lot of her issues relate to OP. She should know for many reasons, for understanding, for safety, etc. It was clearly a mistake to keep it hidden. Anyone with a brain can see something like this would blow over eventually and OP would have behaved better if she had known. So no, it was a mistake to keep it hidden from OP. Also, if her older sister was terrible to OP her whole life, this is barely cruel as a revenge for a life like that.

@deusdamnit

7 ай бұрын

This is what you'd call hindsight. Every single conclusion you've made has come from a place of knowing the full picture and working backwards to see where it could've been stopped. This isn't how problems are solved, this is how strategies are developed to prevent future problems. Remember, each additional update gave us new information that we didn't have before - but, that new information largely came from different perspectives being put together to create a fuller picture. The picture we see is OP + parent's perspective, where OP knew about her feelings about sister, and parents knew about sister's alcoholism. These are completely separate things. From the parent's perspective, OP and sister had a childish rivalry, they weren't complete delinquents. They didn't realize the level of hatred between the two until her second relapse, after OP revealed what she did. It was after this point that they disclosed sister's alcoholism, because at that point they realized that there was a serious problem between the two and it wasn't a couple of adults acting like children, but something much worse. With the information the parents had, I don't think you can reasonably blame them for choosing not to disclose the alcoholism. We can argue all day about whether or not the parents are to blame for the relationship developing into this degree of hatred, but it is indefensible to suggest that they are responsible for sister's actions because they failed to disclose her addiction. Generally speaking, the addict must be the one to disclose the addiction (many addicts never tell anyone outside of their support group, there's too much risk), unless there's a reason to believe the addict could be dangerous to themselves or others - and to this point, the parents didn't have a reason to believe that. Only sister knew why she relapsed the first time, and the second time was necessary for the parents to be given the full picture.

@andynorck2389

7 ай бұрын

@@deusdamnit if you cannot see your kids hate each other you are blind. Nina always hated OP, how could they not know that? Also, Nina happened to be in a bad state after OP's engagement and on the wedding and everything. If they don't realize with that, then they simply cannot understand their daughters at all, and if they do, they should warn OP, for both her safety and for her to be careful, so she keeps it light on the Marcus stuff when they met. Also, hiding stuff almost never ends well anyways. So it isn't hindsight to believe that things would be better if there was no lying and hiding stuff in general.

'She's a raging alcoholic that we covered for, so you'd better be nice to her!' Isn't the defence her parents think it is.

@someguy-sq1kg

4 ай бұрын

Exactly my mum beat me when she was drunk, the alcohol doesn't take away the fact she did it.

So to recap Nina: -felt like OP, her own baby sister, would become "her competition" once OP was born, except Nina said herself there was no reason for that -resented OP for existing -treated OP like dirt when they were growing up because of said resentment -rejected all attempts OP made to be closer as kids -got the golden child treatment from her parents. OP says they were treated equally but they obviously favored Nina by never punishing her for her cruel actions towards OP as a kid or as an adult -got upset when OP got Marcus, the guy Nina wanted, except Marcus didn't know Nina liked him nor did he return her feelings yet Nina refused to acknowledge this -cut off OP for getting engaged to Marcus -years later, tried to ruin OP's marriage and start an affair with Marcus -was so delusional and in her own reality that she thought Marcus, who showed no interest in her whatsoever, wanted to marry her -thought her bedroom wedding that ended in little to no texting afterwards was legit -tried to kick OP out of her home and steal all of her stuff -threw a tantrum when she found out her stupid game had won her a stupid prize -despite multiple trips to rehab, continued to buy and consume alcohol -got their parents to side with Nina by having them treat both sisters as doing equally terrible things when Nina was clearly the only one in the wrong -made OP feel guilty for her alcohol relapse -makes OP feel immensely guilty for doing nothing wrong -refused to be friendly with OP but said they could have a fresh start And yet... OP was the scapegoat throughout all of this for her family. Nah. NTA, Nina is a psycho and the parents were playing clear favorites here no matter what they say.

@BlackHawk21ification

7 ай бұрын

Thank you, i couldn't believe the story when OP said redditers blamed her when she was the victim of her sister abusing her as a kid and as an adult trying to have an affair with her husband... You explained everything i felt so clearly it's amazing

@yu-gi-ohcasual6294

7 ай бұрын

@@BlackHawk21ification Yeah, typically Reddit is on the mark with who is TA but in this story it seems like logic was thrown out the window.

@RepellentJeff

7 ай бұрын

@@yu-gi-ohcasual6294 “Typically Reddit is on the mark with who is TA.” The hell they are. AITA has so many unspoken biases it’s almost funny. Biased against men, biased against parents in general, biased against teachers/professors, biased against anyone who is above middle class, biased in favor of women, _(especially_ if they’re pregnant) biased against anyone who doesn’t ‘take the high road’ like this story, the list goes on.

@deadworld953

7 ай бұрын

@@yu-gi-ohcasual6294 What are you smoking and does it look like rock candy, by chance? Seriously though, I was on reddit 10 years ago and spent way too long there before I realized that the website is one of the largest collections of degenerates on the internet. An absolute ton of heavily biased, poorly socialized and self centered people. I quit the site altogether when I saw a post on a popular subreddit with many people defending chomos as just a kink.

@roselockheart4346

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@BlackHawk21ification right cause like I would barely have sympathy for someone who would off themselves over a man that had no feelings whatsoever for them 20+ years. like get over it. Your an emotional leech affecting people who are happy. Then she’s gonna cry cause she’s gonna be 50 with no husband and kids. And none one’s gonna want to put up with that bullshit anymore. Nina’s parents are not gonna put up with it (I hope,hmmmmmm, They probably are).

Op thinking her sister was "getting vacations" from her parents wasn't a 'jealous hatred' thing. It was a "seeing bad behavior being rewarded and thinking it was unfair and indicative of the undeserved sheer amount of unconditional faith in OP's sister OP would have to contend with, even with the psycho delusional stunt she tried to pull on OP" thing. The parents really want to pretend that OP telling her sister to fuck off and then coming to them about it was the course of action OP should've taken as if they themselves would have made sure that OP's sister remained fucked off away from OP by cracking down on and no longer enabling the sister's bad behavior. And that they think they've built up the impression that OP could've come to them without having to overcome the wall of seemingly undeserved faith in OP's sister instead of of having to do this ridiculously mean sting operation just to have undeniable proof that their daughter was a jealous homewrecking thot in the first place. I'm however happy that OP got the "This one-sided competition was meaningless all along. Let's stop fighting" ending straight from the movies. But the sister getting away with ATTEMPTED HOMEWRECKING(y'know usually something unforgivable, especially when commited by close family because it makes the betrayal that deeper) with "it was just a competition and the hookah made me do it" without great efforts of repentance from the sister is pretty fucking wild to me.

@taetannim3581

6 ай бұрын

What you said.

Parents' fault. Didn't let OP know stuff she should have known.

@Maninawig

7 ай бұрын

Before the update, I did (and still do) think that OP was TA for going too far, and saw the parent's points of view... but just a minute later, I realized what you meant. In my family, there is alcoholism and mental health situations, so I know that informing the family is very important. In this case, OP could have approached her wedding excitement quite differently, knowing that it made her sister relapse. But I do think that the parents did say something quite telling, which is why I upgraded them to full-blown TAs: they were so afraid of their own reputation that they kept their daughters appart and unknowingly fostered a grudge. The outcomes truly are from their own egoistic approach of shh-dom't-tell

@agx8447

7 ай бұрын

Nah, while they should have told her, OP is still in the wrong for doing all that instead of just blocking her sister. Even if she was addiction free, it still wouldn’t be justified

@Maninawig

7 ай бұрын

@@agx8447 both can be wrong. However, if the parents were open and honest from the beginning, then OP wouldn't have gone as far as she did.

@joisagirlsname

7 ай бұрын

You'd have to have your head lodged entirely up your own backside not to realise that someone who called your husband raving drunk and making a bunch of ridiculous statements didn't have a drinking problem. Not only that, but her behavioural issues would have been clear by the time they were in their teens. OP is immature and has no empathy.

@johnduquette7023

7 ай бұрын

@@agx8447 BS, the parents allowed their daughter to believe their other daughter was acting with all of her mental faculties. If a sibling, with _all of their mental faculties intact_ tries to secretly "marry" your spouse and steal your relationship and life, and does so *_persistently,_* public humiliation is absolutely warranted. Public shaming is perfectly appropriate to that behavior... *_unless that person is experiencing a mental health crisis._*

its just a prank bro The Prank :

@n.g.l.

7 ай бұрын

Fr 😬

@LuluGen689

7 ай бұрын

umm, he's her sister's husband. What she did wasn't right either.

@darkknight3037

4 ай бұрын

@@LuluGen689 two wrongs dont make one right

@varsha516

24 күн бұрын

​@@darkknight3037 Two wrongs definately makes it right. Cause the first wrong is done to an innocent while second wrong is done to an already wrong person.

@darkknight3037

23 күн бұрын

@@varsha516 ur gonna be in a world of hurt if u think like that. The world isn't fair for anybody

So let me get this straight...because her sis was dealing with addiction OP should have just let it slide. Her sister was willing to ruin OPs life but because she's an addict OP should be understanding and let it slide? NTA all she did was documents how unhinged she is. On top of that OPs parents conveniently forgot to mention sis was dealing with addiction troubles and lied saying she was on vacation. So was OP just supposed to let her sister do whatever she wanted just cause she has a drinking problem?

@juliearmfield2634

7 ай бұрын

Just because someone else is wallowing around in the mud like a pig doesn't mean you have to join them.

@vedantharwani9278

7 ай бұрын

No but either OP has severe communication issues or has an IQ in the single numbers. She even admitted it was weird that her sister didn’t realized it was a prank, there was no priest, no papers, no court date. I’m no psychologist and I can see there is something massively wrong with the sisters mental health to believe that she’s actually married. At that point you tell the parents and look to get her admitted. You don’t wait 6 months while she might be possible is a psychotic episode. Her hate blinded her. Her sister might have been a horrible person but what she did is akin to mental torture. She’s more than an asshole

@taetannim3581

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's a bs excuse for Nina's behavior. You don't get a pass because you have an addiction; we have jails for people who don't seem to get that.

Should I feel bad for the sister? Probably not.

@princessstarpeach9161

7 ай бұрын

NOPE

@BelgotLeons

7 ай бұрын

Both seem like narcissistic assholes 😅

This is very much an ESH thing. Parents for hiding everything from OP. Nina for this BS competition thing. OP for doing this telenovela level BS on her sister. The parents, for sure, are the worst part in this. I don't care what OP says, if the parents had hidden everything from OP that she would have had some perspective on Nina's life and it never would have gotten to this crap.

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

also, why would you date your sister's crush?

@murdock94

7 ай бұрын

Nina didn't tell anyone about her crush on Marcus until several month's into the relationship. By that point the "don't date my crush" code is gone.

@C.G.Gaster

7 ай бұрын

@@ShiNijuuAKL See unless you say "don't touch that" to a child, they are gonna touch it.

@HeoBaby24

7 ай бұрын

​​@@ShiNijuuAKLBec he didn't want her and again SHE NEVER TOLD ANYONE

@SenseiRaisen

7 ай бұрын

@@ShiNijuuAKL she never told it, it was already months into the relationship too and even all of this comes from before that. OP wasn't competing at all, it was her sister all this time.

alcohol/addiction isnt an excuse to be a home-wrecker.

@theBlackBearrrr

3 ай бұрын

THANK YOU

ESH. Everyone needed to apologize, including the parents. Hiding the sister's alcohol issues was just wrong.

@BlackHawk21ification

7 ай бұрын

You seem to have a problem reading/listening so i'll repost a recap posted someone else ... It's not ESH, it's NTA for OP and the parent and the sister are TA "@yu-gi-ohcasual6294 50 minutes ago So to recap Nina: -felt like OP, her own baby sister, would become "her competition" once OP was born, except Nina said herself there was no reason for that -resented OP for existing -treated OP like dirt when they were growing up because of said resentment -rejected all attempts OP made to be closer as kids -got the golden child treatment from her parents. OP says they were treated equally but they obviously favored Nina by never punishing her for her cruel actions towards OP as a kid or as an adult -got upset when OP got Marcus, the guy Nina wanted, except Marcus didn't know Nina liked him nor did he return her feelings yet Nina refused to acknowledge this -cut off OP for getting engaged to Marcus -years later, tried to ruin OP's marriage and start an affair with Marcus -was so delusional and in her own reality that she thought Marcus, who showed no interest in her whatsoever, wanted to marry her -thought her bedroom wedding that ended in little to no texting afterwards was legit -tried to kick OP out of her home and steal all of her stuff -threw a tantrum when she found out her stupid game had won her a stupid prize -despite multiple trips to rehab, continued to buy and consume alcohol -got their parents to side with Nina by having them treat both sisters as doing equally terrible things when Nina was clearly the only one in the wrong -made OP feel guilty for her alcohol relapse -makes OP feel immensely guilty for doing nothing wrong -refused to be friendly with OP but said they could have a fresh start And yet... OP was the scapegoat throughout all of this for her family. Nah. NTA, Nina is a psycho and the parents were playing clear favorites here no matter what they say."

@HeoBaby24

7 ай бұрын

Op nta

@JDubs1464

2 ай бұрын

@@BlackHawk21ificationYeah let’s ignore the part where OP and her husband took advantage of a woman’s drunken state to get future blackmail material and chose to lead her on for months. Based on this story, Nina does not appear to be mentally sound, and if she is, she’s too deep into a bottle of alcohol to be thinking straight. OP and her Husband should’ve flat out told her the truth and if it didn’t work, cut Nina and possibly the parents out of their lives. OP and her Husband are not innocent in this story, even if assault is not on the same level as 1st degree murder, both are still crimes.

The parent kinda right,tho. Create a fake wedding instead of making her sister get help is kinda mess up.

@theBlackBearrrr

3 ай бұрын

That's the sisters fault. How was she dumb enough to actually believe that

@nightfrost8727

3 ай бұрын

@@theBlackBearrrr They speak about childhood behavioral problems in the video. I'd be willing to guess that the sister has an undiagnosed mental disorder that she's trying to self-medicate with alcohol. That's likely why she was able to truly believe she was married.

@yothiga

3 ай бұрын

@@theBlackBearrrr Because she’s not there mentally? Like, she needs psychiatric not just therapy.

@sweeety969

Ай бұрын

​@@theBlackBearrrr she was an alcoholic...were you not paying attention? It fucks up your brain. Hell she was literally drunk when she initiated this and instead of just laughing it off OP decided to use it as part of some batman gambit to get one over on her sister.

I wonder how much of the alcoholism stemmed from the initial issue between the sisters that wasnt addressed I do think the prank was drawn out way too long but I don't think she can be blamed for wanting revenge on a homewrecker if Marcus hadn't have been a stand up guy she would be cheating on her behind her back. That said I'm glad it all worked out ok and I think it was them all seeing how far they had gone that gave a wake up call. I think the parents probably said the same biting statement to the sister which may have caused her not to call them

the sister's alcohol problem started way before she tried to steal OP's life.

Nta. The sister was disgusting and left op in the dark. Come at me trying to steal my life, I would lose it.

Being an alcoholic doesn’t excuse you from being an AH. She wasn’t drunk when she was actively trying to take her sister’s husband. If anyone is to blame for her relapse it’s the parents who excused every crazy thing she did.

I couldn’t help but laugh at the last part, she got her Yellow Roses! For those who don’t know, yellow roses within the flower language means Jealousy. It made me laugh at the irony hearing that she got her yellow roses!

@Janary08

6 ай бұрын

Damn I always thought yellow flowers like those symbolize friendship. Guess I got my flower languages wrong lol

@curlyq4328

6 ай бұрын

@@Janary08 it used to be that way, along with other flowers such as marigolds, but their meanings changed into something a little…. darker…. Marigolds used to be the piece of acceptance, love, harmony, among other things but now it’s… grief, despair, and mourning.

@gachatana9656

5 ай бұрын

​@@curlyq4328 My best friend got me yellow roses when I completed my GCSEs. You mean to tell me she was jealous (which btw she's now my gf of 2 years. I'm also female)

@curlyq4328

5 ай бұрын

@@gachatana9656 if she knows the flower language and meant it intentionally then I guess? Idk she probably doesn’t as many don’t know flower language. She also may just like the color yellow and many people associate yellow with joy. I love the color yellow so my boyfriend gets me yellow roses and marigolds and those both mean terrible things, but he knows I like yellow so it just depends on the person

@curlyq4328

5 ай бұрын

@@gachatana9656 congrats!

NTA if i saw my brother tryna steal my wife id be pissed and probaly woulda done kinda the same thing and also the parents are stupid they should of told her instaid of keeping it a secret for 30 YEARS it would of been easier to have a sit down with the family atleast the OP about it what do they gain by keeping this a secret

@curator9024

7 ай бұрын

Everyone is the TA in this situation, but what OP was did was the most ridiculous thing. She's even the bigger Ah.

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

would you date your brother's crush?

@seziey4617

7 ай бұрын

@@curator9024 but it was so stop her sis she did reapetedly tell her to stop it but she didn’t listen

@seziey4617

7 ай бұрын

@@ShiNijuuAKL depends

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

@@seziey4617 it wasn't to "stop" her sister, she was trying to get her disowned

I think ESH here. While OP was not entitled to the full details of what Nina was going through with her addiction, the parents absolutely could have told OP that Nina was going through some behavioral problems and was seeking professional help. Nina was dead wrong for creating competition where there wasnt any and for trying to destroy her sister's marriage. OP was wrong for messing with Nina like that. If she really wanted to highlight how Nina was harassing her husband, they could have just as easily recorded another call where Nina begged to be his mistress and not pulled the wedding stunt.

@redguy2312

7 ай бұрын

@BlackHawk21ification 2 days ago (edited) You seem to have a problem reading/listening so i'll repost a recap posted someone else ... It's not ESH, it's NTA for OP and the parent and the sister are TA "@yu-gi-ohcasual6294 50 minutes ago So to recap Nina: -felt like OP, her own baby sister, would become "her competition" once OP was born, except Nina said herself there was no reason for that -resented OP for existing -treated OP like dirt when they were growing up because of said resentment -rejected all attempts OP made to be closer as kids -got the golden child treatment from her parents. OP says they were treated equally but they obviously favored Nina by never punishing her for her cruel actions towards OP as a kid or as an adult -got upset when OP got Marcus, the guy Nina wanted, except Marcus didn't know Nina liked him nor did he return her feelings yet Nina refused to acknowledge this -cut off OP for getting engaged to Marcus -years later, tried to ruin OP's marriage and start an affair with Marcus -was so delusional and in her own reality that she thought Marcus, who showed no interest in her whatsoever, wanted to marry her -thought her bedroom wedding that ended in little to no texting afterwards was legit -tried to kick OP out of her home and steal all of her stuff -threw a tantrum when she found out her stupid game had won her a stupid prize -despite multiple trips to rehab, continued to buy and consume alcohol -got their parents to side with Nina by having them treat both sisters as doing equally terrible things when Nina was clearly the only one in the wrong -made OP feel guilty for her alcohol relapse -makes OP feel immensely guilty for doing nothing wrong -refused to be friendly with OP but said they could have a fresh start And yet... OP was the scapegoat throughout all of this for her family. Nah. NTA, Nina is a psycho and the parents were playing clear favorites here no matter what they say."

@gachatana9656

5 ай бұрын

Purely because the parents lied to OP means that OP cannot be the AH..

@midnightmave

5 ай бұрын

@@gachatana9656 nah, two wrongs don't make a right. The parents' wrongdoing and Nina's wrongdoing don't make OP's wrongdoing any better. Like I said, she could have just as easily recorded another instance of Nina begging to be with her husband. In fact, it would have been even easier.

as a rule, if the name of the post has the phrase "the end will shock you" or any variation thereof, it's bullshit. This reads like it was written by an ai to the point that I can recognize a few of the stories it pulled from.

Looool. Not all addicts go after their sister's husband. And the post telling Op to get out? No way. NTA.

@ibnkhaldoun4319

7 ай бұрын

i definitely think she's AN asshole, but not THE asshole. i don't blame her for going ham on her sister, but the adult thing to do would have been to just block her & contact the parents. i'd lean more towards ESH but would rank the sister worst, the parents second worst, & OP the least. i'm legit very pleased to hear this story had a happy ending.

I don't think revenge is wrong but the way she did it was. Obviously her parents would think it was a useless orank. They shouldn't have shared the wedding video or texted the sister after the "wedding". Just let everyone think she was crazy and delusional. Then record the phone call with the husband and have the wife answer her husbands phone and let the sister say huetful things then the husband pretend to be really confused and say that she needs help and that none of it happened. So then the parents will think there's something wrong with the sister.

@Janary08

6 ай бұрын

With gaslighting abuse? Morally questionable....but personally.... 👀

@ESPHMacD

5 ай бұрын

There was that one story where the parents and golden sister were trying to get the man to marry the sister instead so the op and her man basically gaslit them into thinking he agreed to all of it, keeping everything verbal, then come day of the wedding he plays dumb on the whole thing and op gets to play the sad victim for once. Doing something like that here would have been so much better than having an actual wedding and following through with it. Even without the alcohol problems, to actually follow through with something like this and stick in it for so long is pretty insane. You needed to catch her in the act to prove the act, not use evidence of a psycho thing you did to her months ago that she is a "fool" for believing.

@sweeety969

Ай бұрын

​@@ESPHMacDI remember that one. Iirc, the sister wanted to walk down the isle first and they pretended to agree, verbally, while only sticking to normal talks about the wedding digitally, then come the day of, the sister wasn't allowed in, the mom and dad tried to make a scene but OP and husband were able to feign ignorance and due to the digital footprint not showing he agreed to any of it, everybody took their side. They basically got her parents to pay for a chunk of the wedding under the pretense that her sister would be allowed to walk down the isle first, and manipulated the parents into paying for exactly what they wanted. That was warranted though, this instance was punching down.

"Our parents treated us equally." *proceeds to talk about how her parents spoiled the shit out of Nina, always taking her side in these things* Ahhh yes, didn't know they changed the definition of favoritism to be the opposite of what it originally meant. That's nice to know! ... Jokes aside, I do agree that the manipulation she and Marcus did to Nina was a tad bit too far. A damn near suable offense. She and Marcus should've spoke up about it the moment Nina drunkenly called Marcus to spout that nonsense. Nina basically was provoking them and they fell for it, and instead of slapping her with a newspaper like you would to any other insect, they decided to prep and launch a nuclear warhead. So I'm neutral on this. While I can understand why OP is upset, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. On the other hand her parents are rather gross too. They kept such a secret about Nina's alcoholism. That is definitely something they needed to know beforehand. They clearly kept it quiet simply to save face. This doesn't change the fact that OP's actions went too far, but this doesn't mean should take the blame for her sister's relapse. It's Nina's fault for picking up the bottle and her parent's fault for, again, keeping it quiet.

Sister is psychotic, OP shouldn't feel that bad. And this was definitely the parent's fault

@droid2645

6 ай бұрын

I agree.

@Josh2XL

5 күн бұрын

Naw the raised two physcotic children

You OP are not your sisters keeper or a parent. You did nothing wrong. You are human too and need to be loved and protected.

OP's parents are too naive and complicit thinking that things would just smooth themselves over. They should have just talked to Nina and help her dissociate from thinking to compete with her sister. Then they should have been honest with OP about Nina's addiction, and checked her about her obsession with OP's husband. She may not blame her parents; but when it comes to the larger picture, this stemmed from them sitting idly by.

The revenge was sweet, but then adding the context just made everything bad feel us guilty.

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

even with how much villan stuff her sister did, I didn't like the revenge, because I just can't understand why you would even consider dating the crush of your sibling.

@Ready-ForTheEnd

7 ай бұрын

​@@ShiNijuuAKL Meh you're not entitled to anyone you're not even with. You don't get to call dibs on human beings. 🤷🏽 Whoever the guy chooses is who he has chosen and the other needs to deal with it and get over it. He has every right to make a choice that feels right to him even if it's not you. The parents should have taught her that and how to move on. Anyway I do feel like op intentionally married the guy she knew her sister liked. She definitely enjoyed hurting her by doing so even if she denies it

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

@@Ready-ForTheEnd that's not the problem, there are too many people you can date to choose someone who will bring trouble to your family. It is inconsiderate, don't you have empathy? The guy will be fine with another person, is not a big deal

@aparnarai3708

7 ай бұрын

​@@ShiNijuuAKLthe girl never told anyone she has a crush on him It won't just dawn on them out of nowhere

@ShiNijuuAKL

7 ай бұрын

@@aparnarai3708 wait... Why people keep telling me this? when in the story was that confirmed? As far as we know, OP's husband was the only one who didn't know. The fact that it is mentioned that he didn't even know just implies that everyone else did. There's also no mention of the sister saying it after they got together, given this information I can only conclude that OP and others knew before they got together

I'd vote NTA just because it's none of op's fault her sister has an addiction problem. Also adding on the fact op's parents kept op completely in the dark about it. Thirdly, just because she's an addict doesn't mean she gets a free pass from the fact she actively tried to steal her sister's husband and then tried to kick op out from her own home when she believed the lie. She sucks. Op's parents suck for letting the relationship between their kids get so bad.

The public shame was so massive that the sister relapsed and damn near killed herself. Honestly Im a person with sympathy and empathy, but I can't give none for this situation. Ole girl told OP to get out of her house and leave all her possessions while outtinv this whole thing to the family. It was only when it backfire did "Ohhh now I understand that you didn't deserve to be treated like trash for being born." Seems like this was a blessing in my eyes.

Parents are absolutely right in their assessment.

Damn everyone is a AH but at least they look at themselves in the mirror and needed a change. Hopefully everyone can embrace each other in the future.

@juliearmfield2634

7 ай бұрын

I know right. The whole family is exhausting and toxic. I could not handle that drama I wouldn't put up with that kind of BS drama

@yesthatmousyiris4887

7 ай бұрын

Agree OP admit she was wrong and took accountability not a lot of people do that these days

@HeoBaby24

7 ай бұрын

Op shouldn't have to apologize or take accountability when she did nothing wrong

1 minute in and always discount more than half of what someone is saying in a story if they ever utter the phrase "Hate you for no reason." If OP is claiming relationships are stressed for no reason, you can guarantee there is a reason and OP is completely oblivious to what she's done or is lying so she looks good in the story. It's like Poker. If you don't know who the mark is at the table, it's probably you. Once you hear that, you know the rest is either creative writing assignment or loosely based in fact but heavily polished so that only OP shines as the hero.

Call me heartless but i think she did the right thing, if i saw my brother doing that with my partner i wouldn't hold back, 😂

@yu-gi-ohcasual6294

7 ай бұрын

Right? The parents might have had a point that the OP went too far... if Nina hadn't already tried to steal her sister's husband and then forcibly take literally everything from the OP. If anything, the OP was just giving Nina a taste of her own psycho medicine. And then the parents have the gall to say that BOTH their daughters have to apologize for what they've done when all that happened is that Nina dug her own grave and then kept digging all on her own. Terrible parents!

@marrero8100

7 ай бұрын

OP has literally no reason for regret or remorse. The parents failed at keeping Nina's insanity in check and now that shit hit the fan, the parents are shifting blame to their daughters, especially OP. OP is completely in the right. Don't fall to false guilt.

This story encapsulates the phrase, "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"

Parent's fault, for sure. Like bro, ur finna blame the child that just took revenge, when you never told that child about your other child's addiction? Like, tf?? Tbh, yea, it was kinda a jerk move, but what would you want to do in this situation? Nothing? But, the ending is nice, glad they got along tbh.

“Sometimes you have to make peace with the fact that you are the villain in someone else's story even if you thought you were doing the right thing." -Wise Man

OP went tooo far with the prank but ultimately it's the parents fault for not tell OP that her sis was ill

Pro Tip: Have an addiction issue and face no repercussions for your actions. (At least if you are apart of this family) If we speak seriously though, is the only reason the sister is getting sympathy is because she relapsed after realizing the 'affair/marriage' was a sham? Like this sister literally tried to start an affair with OP's husband and was on a high horse when she revealed to OP as if she was on some ego trip. That is an unforgivable act, yet here in this story, we are supposed to feel some sympathy for the sister because she relapsed after things didn't go her way and somehow this should shield her from criticism for her malicious actions. OP probably could've gone about it in a less extreme way, but it's not like they publicly posted the home wedding video as she only privately shared it with her parents, so it's not like she ruined the sister's life. That's all on the sister for publicly posting her 'marriage' which was non-existent to begin with. You can't even say she was led on cause like, after the 'wedding', there was just some infrequent texts. Nothing physical or emotional. OP is definitely not in the wrong, but if this entire saga made the sisters develop a bond which led to apologizes and made the family closer, then I suppose it was a good thing... Definitely a screw loose in this family though.

Those are some grade A parents. Thats all I got from this story.

Ngl OP was kinda psycho with that revenge 💀 I’m glad that everyone was able to grow from this incident

Holy crap. You can't call dibs on every crush you had as a teenager, especially if you never even tried to pursue them.

The OP dealt with her sister's phone call like a child. If it was like, a recurring pattern where he'd get calls from her sister I'd completely understand. However it was a one time thing which caused the OP to hatch a sinister plan like that, which honestly doesn't make sense to me. I also feel like there is more to this sister Marcus element that OP is either withholding or doesn't know about. It is a very strange thing to see the sister overreact in this way to a high school crush, unless of course they had some kind of history. The sister was technically not in touch with OP for most of that period.

I find it very interesting that people really are defending Nina (alcohol addiction or not). She was literally trying to take her own sister’s husband & ruin her happiness. She then got all cocky about it, but still finds a way to blame OP. I personally don’t have an ounce of empathy/sympathy/compassion for Nina. Her actions speak for itself.

Playing the victim when you are the victim is always the best revenge. Doing something like that will only make you a villain, and I agree with the parents, they were both terrible people

ill call bullshit on this one

She is the villain she went up to someone else's husband confessed her love and when she even thought that they were together she told her give me everything you own It's not her fault her sister was a pathetic alcoholic It's not her fault that she was nothing but a drunken The reserve can't handle the wind

Sister is totally wrong, but making your husband have a fake ceremony with another woman is bizarre

Op definitely enjoyed hurting her sister when she married the guy. She can deny it all she wants but she's played this game for years now, being just as mean and toxic. Cruel is who she is, who they both are.

So being a raging alcoholic makes attempting to steal one sister's husband is ok because she has issues? Wow. That's some pretty good gaslighting huh. The prank was harsh but considering the alco's actions. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

Everyone sucks here, the parents for enabling the behavior of the two daughters, the fiance for playing along and the op, I mean, how hard is to go no contact to someone who hate your guts?

Nah, you attempt that kind of level of betrayal, you get 10x more response from me. I never agreed to be a jesus.

Yellow roses in a relationship mean problems. For some, they can be a symbol of betrayal, lost feelings or jealousy.

@lizzy1876

6 ай бұрын

Yellow roses also mean friendship! But with this story....I think you're right

This whole incident is the parents fault. Sure they should have revealed the alcohol problems to op but that's not what caused it. As parents it's their job to nurture their children's relationships until they grow older. Then it's their job. The fact that the elder sister had this insecurity and hatred for her little sister and nothing serious was done about it is the parents fault. It festered and fermented like milk in a warm room. If they identify the problem and sorted it out early they would be fine. From what she says it looks like they knew about it long before they were adults but ignored it. And it gave them this two sisters who will never be as close as sisters should be.

I see everyone largely only blaming the parents for the whole sister fiasco, but while they do have their flaws in this situation, I don't think they are entirely to blame for what have happened. They acted upon based on what they know and the information they had at that time. Prior to the incident, the two sisters obviously have rivalry and enmity with each other but based on their experience growing up, they never resorted to any physical, damaging, or extreme measures and resorted to only ignore each other. They are already in their 30s, both weren't problematic, or purposely troubled the other so the parent's had no reason to suspect that her sister would be harmful to OP just because she's dealing with her addiction. From the looks of it, OP's sister has been dealing with her alcoholism for years and has always tried to consciously seek help from their parents. While it has been wrong for them to cover her rehab as 'fancy vacations,' if it helps Nina heal and recover without the judgemental and nosy eyes of society then I dont see how it's wrong. It wasnt their parent's place to tell OP at that time especially when the sisters were estranged and OP's sister's struggle was sensitive and personal. If OP had been honest about Nina's problematic behavior, then OP would've known her addiction sooner from her parents. Then OP would've responded differently then. That is not to say this is OP's fault, but the scale and impact wouldn't be so detrimental had the family been honest with each other. To add: A lot of people mentioned that parents were too cruel to OP, or OP were faultless, but I disagree. While it may have been harsh, but the parent's criticism for OP's revenge were true. There were many ways that kind of situation could have been handled but OP chose an immature way and encouraged her sister's delusion and dragged it on for months when the right way would've been to inform her parents and set boundaries with the family. OP and sister were barely in each other's lives for years and were not on speaking terms with each other. Nina relapsed once and that was during her sister's engagement. Nina is not faultless or a helpless child so she obviously should be held accountable for trying to ruin OP's life. But not in a humiliating and undignified way in public especially when her sister had been exhibiting clear signs of (psychological) behavioral issues. The parent's point was that the situation could've been handled more privately and maturely and not be blown out of proportion by social media and nosy relatives. I also dont agree that the parents had been biased with Nina, as when they learned the truth, they both acknowledged and criticized each daughter for their actions. Just because the parents are handling Nina that moment, that doesnt mean they are biased to her and cruel to OP. Obviously Nina needs the immediate medical attention and support she needs as she had been impacted affected the most by the incident, to which not only it could've been detrimental to her, but also to other people. Everyone's equally to blame as it all stems from miscommunication and unresolved childhood issues. They each had their contribution why it led their family to spiral that way and Im glad that everyone each acknowledge and held themselves accountable for it.

They all deserve each other.

Everyone is the a-hole even the parents

parents have a point about the public spectacle but the parents royally screwed up by not even trusting the family with the rehab news

Well, they kept important information to themselves. They should have told you. Don't blame yourself.

i feel like OP didn't do anything wrong it's nina's fault for trying to get in between her sisters marriage

I admit I enjoy good old petty/pro revenge but what OP and her husband did was messed up ESH. Sister shouldn't go after the husband, the parents should've been honest about the sister's problem from the start. Toxic family good lord...

@ibnkhaldoun4319

7 ай бұрын

why? are you saying that because she was a troubled woman she didn't understand that it's unacceptable to steal someone's husband? OP should have been an adult about it, but is it really so wrong she decided to teach her sister a lesson?

Ok, 3 minutes in; that's fucked up. Edit: Watched the full vid. This whole family fucked up yo

Op and her husband is sus asf

as someone who comes from a family of addicts, no one’s relapse is your fault

I said this in a reply to another comment but I want to say it as it's own separate comment as well because I see a lot of people defending OP and saying that they did absolutely nothing wrong and even quoting said comment that I replied to: The thing is... _BOTH_ of them _WERE_ in the wrong. A story doesn't have to end with only one AH. Obviously OP's sister was in the wrong for trying to be a homewrecker but OPs immediate reaction shouldn't have been to "prank" her sister like that. She should have just blocked her sister and cut contact with her and moved on. Instead she jumped off the deep end and practically gaslit her sister into thinking that OP's husband liked her back when he really didn't. And the fact that her sister genuinely thought that her "marriage" was legit says that she genuinely needed mental help. Like, Jesus Christ she doesn't need to be gaslit she needs a freaking full on intervention. Maybe even a trip to a damn mental hospital. The point is OP handled this situation very poorly. She relied purely out of emotion in the heat of the moment when she should have taken the time to sit back and cool off and then act in a logical manner. But instead she went balls to the walls and only created more unnecessary drama than she had to when all of that could have been avoided had she just cut contact instead of antagonizing her sister back. At the end of the day the story had a happy ending but neither party was truly without fault here.

Go no contact with your whole family.

Sooo... the parents created a giant rift between them and made neither sister aware of the struggles of the other even though they knew they had issues which could be explained. Some of it is on the sisters to foster a nurturing relationship but their parents as the adult had to intervene...

Literally everyone sucks here. It's amazing how many issues can be avoided if people just communicate.

Everyone in this story is insane.

OP is NTA, sister and parents are TA! I would have done the same thing if I was in her situation. Yeah it’s fucked up but the sister had to learn her lesson. Oh and just because she suffers from alcohol addiction, that does not excuse her from her shitty behavior

At the 5 min mark and ong this is ducking hilarious 😭💀

how did she even mess up, the sister had it coming

I think this should serve as a cautionary tale for all. Although OP is a jerk for what she did, it was done with incomplete information. OP may have pulled the trigger, but her parents loaded the gun. I'm only in my 30's but I have seen many similar situations like this myself. Families that are built around and maintain secrets tend to implode and destroy everyone in the process. In this case, the truth has come to light and hopefully this family can continue to recover and can maintain meaningful bonds in the future. Eventually the parents will be dead and gone and it will just be the siblings left. Hopefully they can build a true sisterly bond and be there for each other. Life is hard, but it's even harder if you are all alone. I don't wish that for either sibling.

This whole situation is just childish by all parties...

Despite all the horrible decisions and bs, it still had a nice ending

Yeah sis you’re not the problem. She threw herself at your husband multiple times and didn’t care. Then told people they were married. Like wtf? You’re not in the wrong at all. Parents should’ve told you she has a problem. But that in no way excuses her behavior. Fuvk that!

I feel like everyone in this story sucks. Maybe the husband isn't as bad as OP but he was still convinced to hurt her sister for something he is hardly involved in. This is a quarrel between sisters. I also kinda feel like OP's entire relationship with her husband sucks because I wonder how much of that relationship was based on her disliking her sister. I love my siblings and I would never date someone they love. The moment someone has potential to become a partner of my siblings or friends is the moment where I consider them family and I can't feel any attraction even if our personalities match

Parents have clear favorites

I can't believe we got a story with character development

Wait the evil prank worked? The sister realized that the husband would agree to something so fucked up that she got over him and then realized that the fighting with her sister isn’t worth it

Ya op fcking took it too far. Parents were fully right

Everyone sucks here. If the parents were honest about the “vacations “ from the start , the outcome would be different. However, Nina’s intense sibling rivalry and OP’s cruel prank was problematic on an EPIC level. The rivalry may have ended, but I doubt they will have much contact after.

Honestly, I think everyone is a bit complicit in this one but it’s awesome they worked things out in the end. I started thinking around the time of the prank that OP’s sister is clearly mentally ill, not malevolent. I don’t see how OP and her husband failed to see that? Ah well.

At least this one has a weirdly wholesome ending given what’s happened. I think this is an Everyone sucks type situation but at least truths are being revealed and broken bonds mended

what was wrong with what OP did to her sister? most people wouldn't have tried to steal someone's husband, and that fake wedding? most people wouldn't have been so deluded & believed that. plus, that gloating "vacate the house plz" phone call was just awful. she'd have ruined her with no remorse if she was able. she needed to be humiliated & called out so she could feel some desire to change. looks like that ended up happening...and somehow OP is a bad person for doing it. sure it was petty and vengeful...but it needed to happen. the right thing can be done for the wrong reasons.

Y'all in y'all 30s?!?!? 🙃 Dafuq Idgaf ETA- drunk woman's words are a sober woman's thoughts. So she's not just an immorally sororal homewrecker, but an alcoholic immorally sororal homewrecker. The girl relapsed herself. Dont give a damn. She wanted to spite and shame her sister, but it turned out that everything she wanted to do to her sister she did to herself instead. Whomp Whomp She looked for it. Big whoop there's squabbling kids in the family. OP didnt even put much effort into doing it or maintaining it. Am I happy the sister is suffering - of course not. Do I care that she is suffering - of course not, it's justified. 👁️ For an 👁️ and 🦷 for a 🦷. They cant lose faces they never had - the whole family been knew they were bitter towards each other. Sis didnt even consult "her husband" despite him telling her to wait. Just threw it out there - fucked over "her own husband" too. Dis some kid shit. Neither of them should let it keep them up at night. (The sister would have been shamed even if she did get her way- no coming back from a rep like that regardless - you stole your sister's man and threw her on the street? Right 😒) The "reputation" that they are deeming so imprortant among their family is a pristine reputation among a bunch of gossiping rag-tag news mongers. Where da mediators at? They aint much either. I dont even know if OP loves her husband for real or just cause the sister crushed on him - or vice versa - sis just wants and idealizes him cuz the other sister got him. Who knows. OP wanted to dish it back and she did - now backs out. The myopia - Lord. She realized the lesson "Only mirrors can reflect," too fuckin late. How is the parents' fault for not telling her about the alcoholism? Why would you load a machine gun with more bullets? Look what homegirl did with the love confession. I been watching Marcus since out the gate 👀 Yall get a drink and get over it - oh shit - maybe a seltzer? Idk 🤷🏽‍♀️

alcohol problems of op sisters are one thing but she definaltey has mental issues as well.

Oh yeah, I feel sorry for the person who tried to rob a husband and all her sister's belongings as soon as she feels she was Marcus' wife. No, I don't but she is victim of stupid parenting who created a POS entitled that vents her frustrations in alcohol. Although, the prank was insensitive, I can't feel sorry for a homewrecker wannabe.

I have to say if my kids came with so much drama while im old and just want to rest... I'd send them away too. They need to write a journal or star in a movie or something and leave me in my old age to relax. Also, i dont understand why proplr still entertain relatives. I couldnt care less what x and Y aunties think about me and my family. My forst words were always 'You called very fast to get the latest gossip on my life.' while i couldnt care less what happen in other's lives... Just watch a Korean drama or something...

Personally, I love what OP did. Sometimes psychopaths only understand their own language. She didn’t even physically harm anyone. Her family is enabling this older sisters behavior She sounds like a child using their “mental health” as a cop out to be an entitled pos and when she got called out, she resorted to crying like a child. She was wrong and got a segment of what she seems to have deserved based off of what we have heard.

Should have said it never happened and made everyone think she was crazy

Sweetie, ur parents didn't treat u both equally u were the one who didn't noticed it properly...Ur sister is 100% their golden child 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

Good Lord. I have never seen a clearer case of "Everyone Sucks Here" as this. Everyone needs some serious fucking therapy

should i feel bad for the sister no was it right no but in the end it doesnt matter i bet her parents wouldnt have taken her side even if she did block her and tell them that day

Dang, I wouldn't be surprised if she make an update soon saying Nina backstabed her AGAIN. Hopefully not a full-grown and real affair with OP's husband 🤡

I'm more concerned that Nina is actually delusional. What OP and her husband did was pretty unhinged, even if it could be considered deserved. But my gosh, Nina is messed up if she thought that was legitimate.

This wasn't the smartest prank to pull. In some countries, the sister could sue Marcus.

of course her parents messed up by not telling her... Her sister went to rehab. So what thousands of people do. Why is there still a weird stigma about going to rehab, seeking psychiatric care, ...

Nina needs therapy. Beyond insane.

No. At no point was OP in the wrong whatsoever. Her parents facilitated an environment where these two grew up hating each other and it was the OLDER DAUGHTERS FAULT. At no point should she ever have apologized to her. She should have never spoken to her parents again and also she needs therapy. I love her husband for helping her be this petty. He’s a rare breed. NYA. Her family sucks. Don’t speak to these people anymore

Finally, reconciliation! ❤❤❤