Hey all! I figured the hard drive might be dying in this NeXTcube, so I made a new episode where we fix it! Check it out 👉kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIOkp8N9htreZto.html

@leith2527

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

@ThatSkyKyle

2 жыл бұрын

I used to have a NeXT Cube but I got rid of it to get a IBook….yes I actually did…I got a LIME IBOOK!! I love that color!! Boi I missed that NeXT cube….

@The-Weekend-Warrior

Жыл бұрын

@X D What does NeXT have to do with Sun? They're two different companies....

@lightingkid2010

11 ай бұрын

@@The-Weekend-Warrior he didnt talk about sun☠

@The-Weekend-Warrior

11 ай бұрын

@@lightingkid2010 Yeah, looks weird now, because the comment I was replying to was deleted in the meantime... we'll leave this mystery to history :D

"its about half a millimeter short of the 12 inch mark" You literally just killed me mixing metric and imperial!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

CRAP. That's what I get for being American. x_x I'm going to remeasure.

@TheJeremyHolloway

4 жыл бұрын

DIE METRIC! BOW DOWN TO IMPERIAL! If the mile was good enough for the Romans, then it's good enough for us all.

@douglas8568

4 жыл бұрын

@@ComputerClan I bet that you talked milimeter talking about fractions of a inch, jesus, just learn metric, is how the world works, and medicine too

@nicolasdangelo3485

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJeremyHolloway literally no one uses imperial, just change your systems, its way easier than the other way around.

@m_a_s6069

4 жыл бұрын

Mixing metric and imperial is just like being in the UK.

Hey Ken, Glad you like the Cube and great video you produced on it! It could not have gone to a better home. A couple things about it. That model did indeed come with an option 2.88mb floppy disk, and if you had it installed it had a different bezel. What you see there now is simply a slot cover that is the same size as if you had a second MO drive on top. Also, If it ever fails to boot for you, the yellow Panasonic 2/3A battery in it might have gone bad. A NeXT will not boot at all with a dead cmos battery. Finally, you can configure the next to boot right to NeXTstep, I just had it configured to boot to terminal first as a preference. Keep up the great work!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! (And for selling me the Cube. That was cool, too.)

@Dong_Harvey

4 жыл бұрын

Did the floppy drive manufacturer not pay the royalties for the correct bezel?

“It’s an optical anomaly. To the human eye a perfect cube doesn’t look like a cube so we made it roughly a millimeter shorter than a foot on two sides.”

@itsROMPERS...

Жыл бұрын

True, but it's based on squares, not cubes.

The display engine is called Adobe Display Postscript. It was the first WYSIWYG on screen and on a Postscript printer. Steve Jobs tried to relicense it from Adobe when building Mac OS X but was told no. So he took Adobe PDF which is open source and created Display PDF. That's why you can take screenshots directly to PDF as well as print anything to PDF by default on Mac OS X.

@OwenAsh

3 жыл бұрын

modern problems require modern solutions

@MozTS

2 жыл бұрын

adobe, one of the few silicon valley companies more evil than apple

@jonathanbuzzard6648

Жыл бұрын

Sun did Display Postscript before the NeXT.

@qazmko22

10 ай бұрын

That is very interesting. I didn't know that Straight to PDF on Mac OS origin story.

Doom was made on a NexT system

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

maximusoptimus2000 You have ANCI skills? why you all cry DOOM here, only nerdy noobs on KZread? why all cry the same thing, unable to do one post?

@petey8155

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem what

@markteague8889

4 жыл бұрын

Incredibly, this is true! It is reported that John Carmack walked to the post office in the snow from their apt in Wisconsin to pickup his Next system which he ordered COD.

@marcusborderlands6177

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem what is your problem dude. Speak coherently.

@DavidRavenMoon

4 жыл бұрын

I believe Quake was also. He used NeXT Step until he switched to Mac OS X.

now THIS is an aesthetic computer. this and the 90s sgi workstations.

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

sixfront SGI was maya only, when they released it on Windows, they were gone.... this Next was way bigger, it started this revolution we do now, internet and all! Webkit on ARM! Are you any creative still, still on Maya by Autodesk now....

@autohmae

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem SGI was amazing hardware ! And they still made great hardware after, just not for workstations. You want to know something crazy ? SGI was bought by Rackable and Rackable (which renamed itself to SGI) is now part of HP Enterprise.

@theblah12

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem SGI machines were responsible for much of the VFX used in Hollywood movies back in the 90's, and many of the video games from that time period as well, and as you said, much of the 3D graphics software artists rely on today originated from that ecosystem. The N64 was based on SGI hardware. Most of the core personal that worked at SGI went to found Nvidia and other Silicon Valley corporations - in fact Google's original HQ was that of SGI's. SGI had a *huge* influence on the computing industry, film and games industries of today. Sure, the web wasn't invented there, but some of you're favourite 90's movies and video games wouldn't exist without them, nor would Nvidia.

@FalloutProto

4 жыл бұрын

AND, that exact system has the same birthday as me!

@imacg5658

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes. The C U B E

Imagine being able to easily dismantle a product from Steve Jobs. Good times.

@TNinja0

3 жыл бұрын

A joke about how great that time was, when we could. Without Apple certified softlock, of course.

@NGEvangeliman

3 жыл бұрын

Hard to make stuff designed to be user friendly when you are busy suing small companies who dare to use a fruit logo and making sure you can take 30% of other companies money just so they can appear on the appstore of your shitty phones.

@hi_tech_reptiles

3 жыл бұрын

@@TNinja0 haha ahhhhh I get it, sadly... To be fair I have Mac Pros and imacs dismantled all over my house in various states so lol

@ikwilgeenkanaalzeur

3 жыл бұрын

The g3, g4 were amazingly easy to take apart. Stil like that design.

@hi_tech_reptiles

3 жыл бұрын

@@ikwilgeenkanaalzeur is that the one with the handles? PowerMac ?

“This ribbon cable has little handles!” Back when we had the right to repair.

@martinb.770

3 жыл бұрын

I found these every couple of years, not only in PowerPC Apples, IBM, but also in HP Gen8 Microservers. In fact, most servers are quite decently built, so that their factory and service people don't have to fiddle around. On the other hand, hardware for shops that just hand you boxes over the counter, got quite a spread, depending on the price. "brand name" gamer and tuning hardware provides nices solutions, too, but for sure, not the low cost stuff.

@TheExileFox

7 ай бұрын

@martinb.770 Not anymore. Just google for "Nvidia 4090 melting power cable" or similar

This machine is a server. DO NOT POWER IT DOWN!!

@rchltmedia

4 жыл бұрын

ok

@VAX1970

4 жыл бұрын

@@rchltmedia It's the sticker Tim Berners Lee had on the first ever WWW machine. Google it

@markarca6360

4 жыл бұрын

That was back in 1991 when Tim Berners-Lee developed the first Web server (HTTPd; which is now in use today as Apache HTTP Server) and the first Web browser, WorldWideWeb. This was the first Web server.

@compaqdeskpro5770

4 жыл бұрын

Doom was developed on a Nextcube. This computer is better known for being used for development at important points in history than for being any sort of widespread success.

@guspaz

4 жыл бұрын

@@compaqdeskpro5770 The NeXTcube's price of $10,000 ($19,645 in 2019 dollars) was entirely responsible for that.

Somehow I feel like Jobs probably argued for a magnesium-case CRT and was bitter for years about losing that fight

@mylesl2890

4 жыл бұрын

the 21in color monitor while plastic on the outside was metal on the inside had a fan too believe it was also tempest rated

@matthewJ142

4 жыл бұрын

Steve was bullied for all his ideas. Sad way he went out.

@starsiegeRoks

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewJ142 steve jobs was also a very cantankerous asshole who treated his workers like computers, so I mean, i feel karma got him for his personality in the end.

@nuanil

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewJ142 Steve Jobs spent several years trying to kill Apple with his ideas before he was forced out. He's personally responsible for the failure that was the Apple III, with his form over function bullshit. And then you compare the Apple IIGS fully colour system and the monochrome Macintosh and you really have to question his sanity. And if he hadn't fought Wozniak and tried to turn everything into appliances, instead of highly customizable and upgradable devices, the IBM PC may well have never completely overtaken the industry.

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

NeXTWorld Magazine burned one and found no trace of magnesium!

Wow, amazing!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you : ) I can't wait to do more with this bad boy. >:)

@pavolporubsky5173

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, didn't expect u here

@_dnv

3 жыл бұрын

@@pavolporubsky5173 me too

@kaleldrewmagnabe2847

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't expect you here

@_bit_

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

1990 megapixel monitor : includes a stand AND wheels

@aqzp.

3 жыл бұрын

Steve jobs knew how money worked

@Charlesb88

3 жыл бұрын

But back then no one was attaching it to a VISA mount so they’d expect a stand and wheels. Nowadays many high end content professional creators want the stand and wheels to be Optional for those that already have a visa display mount because why should they pay for something you don’t need.

@Fobia17

3 жыл бұрын

@@Charlesb88 that would be a valid argument if the apple display came with a standard VESA mounting bracket... **or any sort of mounting system that existed before the montitor, that a person could possibly have ever owned before the monitor

@Charlesb88

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fobia17 the problem with that is that different users will need different mounting brackets and some will prefer a stand. Professional content creators prefer to buy or provide there own mounting brackets or stand depending on their specific needs. So Apple can't provide a one size fits all mounting/stand solution. To many people have an issue with this who aren't the target market so I prefer to defer to the pros and let them complain to Apple if they want at least a stand included. From what I hear from the folks buying the Apple Pro monitor this isn't the issue laypeople think it is.

@Fobia17

3 жыл бұрын

@@Charlesb88 If that was TRULY Apple's intention, then they would have used AN INDUSTRY STANDARD SYSTEM, like VESA, instead of forcing customers to use a proprietary mounting, or charging $1000 for a stand. You are correct, the Pros I know are not complaining, they are just going another route, entirely, because it's not worth their time and money to deal with it. Between their anti- Right to Repair stance, their charger BS, and shenanigans that are thst monitor, Apple is wholly anti consumer, just like thst stand.

The thing at the end of your tape measure moves because it's dual function: You can measure both inside and outside dimensions with it, the movement is the same size as the width of the L-shaped metal thingy on the end.

I once had a NeXTstation and it was the fuc$ing best computer I ever owned.

@mgabrysSF

4 жыл бұрын

What kind? I still have mine - NeXTstation 040 non-adb (with laser printer).

@geesharp6637

4 жыл бұрын

I still have mine too, somewhere. But I had the NeXTstation Turbo.

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

osiris1802 KZread channels need them now, to create nerdy content. selling it to other nerdy channels...

@computernerdinside

3 жыл бұрын

What happened to it?

Ken: "Take a look at the dock on this thing!" KZread: Demonitized

Tim Berners-Lee created the world's first web server on a NeXT cube at CERN. Could be cool to repeat his work in 2019.

@Charlesb88

3 жыл бұрын

Is that what you want him to do NeXT? What should be his NeXTSTEP? 😁

"I looked up the price of calipers that size and, they're expensive." **NeXTcube screams internally**

@monad_tcp

4 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for a caliper that size, kind of disappointed, he could have rented one.

@MisterRorschach90

4 жыл бұрын

Luiz Felipe I doubt he knows you can rent precision measuring tools. Lol

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

I paid $89 for my NeXT Cube... am not gonna pay the same for caliper! Hehe.

You can really understand why it was so expensive. The thought out across the component positioning and servicing is amazing for the time. You can see there was A LOT of development behind those boards and the specs/capabilities from these machines were out of this world for the time.

"It's about half a millimeter short of the 12 inch..." - totally "American Guy Tries the Metric System". You were so close too!

@BeersAndBeatsPDX

3 жыл бұрын

His tape could have both systems hence why he used both.

@robertromero8692

2 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with saying "half a millimeter short of 12 inches"? That's a perfectly valid statement.

@kevinforth7618

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertromero8692 Oh, nothing seriously "wrong" ... I was simply amused by the blending of metric and imperial systems.

Your iPhone is running 30+ year old UNIX code and it's still kicking butt and taking names. The development language Objective-C was a combination of C with Smalltalk Object Oriented language. The Interface Builder GUI rapid application development IDE and the impressive NeXT API's were way ahead of their time. Drag and drop GUI development back when programmers had to use graph paper draw and measure everything out and code the dimensions by hand! This was years ahead of Borland and Microsoft RAD development systems. Almost ALL of the NeXTStep API's are still in macOS Catalina. They all start with ns_ prefixing the API calls. It's not surprising that the dev kit wasn't included with this NeXT Cube it was very expensive. After the Cube failed to capture market share, NeXT sold just the OS and Development kit. NeXTStep became OpenStep and it ran on a myriad of operating systems and hardware architectures including Windows NT where it was called Yellowbox. You could develop an App and the application bundle would include different binaries for each architecture. This is why Apple transitioned from IBM PowerPC to Intel so easily, they likely had Mac OS X running on Intel since day one. It's also the reason the same base code runs on their custom silicon ARM CPU's in iPhones, iPads, AppleTV's, etc. It will be the same when Apple decides to replace Intel with some next generation ARM designs. The NeXT acquisition is truly Apple's secret weapon. They were way way ahead of everyone else with amazing technology that is responsible for Apple's massive continued success.

I noticed when you were showing the motherboard. It looked like there was a capacitor cap what is bulging. I would replace it as soon as possible. If that compacity cap goes. There is a chance it could take something out with it.

When Jobs came back to Apple he brought NextStep OS with him and it did become the foundation of Mac OS X and later iOS. The original programming language for MacOS and iOS (Objective-C) has a lot of SDK functioned prefixed with "NS" which carried over from NextStep. Pretty amazing if you think about it, did he always have this big plan just waiting for the tech to catch up?

DOOM through QUAKE (I) were done on NeXT too, before id switched to Windows NT for QUAKE II. Atari's Falcon030 computer from 1992 also used the same DSP as the NeXT computers, which was touted as being able to handle 8 channels of 16-bit audio (up to close to 50KHz sample rate) simultaneously.

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. I didn’t know that before I posted this video. I can learn a lot from the comments, haha.

@TheJeremyHolloway

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Motorola 56K DSP was incredible for that era, and why it cost $1k on its own. Atari Corp wanted to use the DSP as its own voice modem in the Falcon030 but never got around to finishing the software for that feature set [they also ran out of money before enabling that with the Atari Jaguar's DSP too]. It cranked out awesome audio. There's a few modern audio chips that use cores from that chip, which have even been used in some of the iPod Shuffles but nobody so far has figured out how to use those cheap chips to use them like the full Motorola DSPs in order to, say, add them as upgrades to older Macs, Atari STs, and Amigas. There's an enthusiast porting Quake 2 to the Atari Falcon030 and he's heavily using the DSP to make that work. He said it's so much faster than the 68882 that he's not even supporting that optional FPU.

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

xnonsuchx Original Doom was ANSI C, assembly language, u used Next back then your self? ANSI guy? What did you do back then?

10:10 I think the NeXTBus is NuBus. From Wikipedia: "NuBus was also selected by NeXT Computer for their line of machines, but used a different physical PCB layout. NuBus appears to have seen little use outside these roles, and when Apple switched to PCI in the mid 1990s, NuBus quickly disappeared." 27:57 And the IDE was called Project Builder. The early version of what became Xcode.

@francoisrevol7926

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed: "The NextBus is a superset of NuBus, which is defined by IEEE Standard 1196." cf. www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/Hardware/NeXTbus-NBIC/NeXTbus_Specification.pdf

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

Madd the Sane Next, physical PCB other layout, not new Bus, why you cry that bullshit here?

Wintel: It is now safe to turn off your computer Next: I’m about to ruin this guy’s whole career.

Retailed for $10,000 back in 1990. Safe to say this wasn’t in many homes. At least in my neighborhood. And if it was, it wasn’t heavily broadcasted. “Hey, I bought a NeXTcube.”

@accretor

2 жыл бұрын

They were all in university/college computer labs and in professional settings. They were often more legendary than real, unless you were university age. Something to read about in a computer magazine. My friend joked about something he called "Steve Jobs's disease". Those who had it couldn't see any colour. That's why Jobs kept making black and white computers. I miss my Amigas.

@3rdalbum

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah; $10k, black and white display, and featured a CPU that was nothing more special than a 68040. Okay, the 040 was a great CPU for 1990 but I was expecting something more exotic.

this must have blown people's minds in 1990, the resolution is so high and everything is so smooth

Looks like captions have decided to return. Welcome back captions, it sure has been a while.

@masterxd34

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. I always have subtitles on!

@computernerdinside

3 жыл бұрын

Is there any hidden jokes or gags I missed?

It is funny how Steve touted Mac OS X's features as if they were brand new and revolutionary when, in fact, most of them had simply been ported from NeXT Step. I played with Open Step on Linux some years ago and noticed then just how similar it is. It uses .app executables and everything. It makes me wonder just how much tweaking it would take to get Mac OS X applications to run under Open Step today, especially older apps, and especially on a PowerPC or POWER platform.

@Mastacheata

4 жыл бұрын

Lots. The OpenSTEP specification was last published in 1994, any updates in the yellow-box/cocoa era are not included in that specification. GNUStep is trying hard to implement most of the Cocoa-APIs and Darling will even let you run Mac OSX-Apps on Linux using GNUStep, but it's far from a complete implementation of the current Apple-API.

@riley_oneill

4 жыл бұрын

Mac OS X was pretty revolutionary for an operating system that was aimed at the mass market. The features they touted existed on expensive industrial equipment like this one, not so much consumer-level equipment. The big change that got most of the attention was the Aqua interface though, there was really nothing like that at the time, visually computer interfaces changed over night. Compared to Mac OS9 and Windows 98/2000, Mac OS X was a huge leap. I was started on the open Public Beta in Sept of 2000, and even with my fairly weak iMac it was a huge leap in experience. The jump from OS9 to OSX was unlike any other jump since then. I was aware that this operating system came from NextOS, however, I knew absolutely nothing about that system and the information online was very sparse with no tours lie this one.

@souljastation5463

2 жыл бұрын

Even the hardware, it really is not that much different from an Amiga, maybe even less advanced in some aspects.

Another thing I like about the cube, the power button on the keyboard was not a keyboard key, it was a hardware power switch. The equivalent of flipping the power switch on a PC box.

i was lucky enough to have a few NeXT machines bac in the day, still got'm love them!! cubes, slabs the color monitors n printers were awesome

Run it as a webserver, Tim would be proud.

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

That webserver sucked... ran it for awhile on my cube early on. Worth forgetting.

@theharbingerofconflation

2 жыл бұрын

@@jazzlover10000 yeah? Could be cause it was literally the first one

We used two of these in my composition class for Max/FTS programming and sound design in a two-story double quadraphonic or 8 speaker playback environment. We had concerts in the evenings on weekends and 30-40 people would come into the performance room and huddle in the middle and listen to the most tripped out surround sound music you can imagine. Great times! These NeXT boxes blew away everything else that was out at the time for creative tasks, (and other things I’m sure).

It's crazy looking at the back of it; just the text layout and everything definitely reminds me a bit of Apple

@monsirto

Жыл бұрын

....and far better from a music production perspective than anything Apple have ever produced. Even today it still pops up in the storerooms of some studios I visit and they will drag them out for mysterious midi stuff from time to time.

I've always liked how the power was consolidated to one plug. It reminds me of the 90's Macintosh computers pre-Steve Jobs return when the monitor got its power from the Mac power supply. It's also how many stereo systems were set up back in the 70's/80's. It just makes everything less messy in terms of cables.

I saw this cube at the convention. So many crazy computers out there. Glad this went to a good home. So interesting to see the inside!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes. It’s in a good home, indeed. I can’t wait to go back to the festival.

Title should've been "I Bought a NeXTcube, What NeXT?"

@TOWGyt

3 жыл бұрын

*pop* noice.

@computernerdinside

3 жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity.

Man, you've just taken me back over 30 years! When Steve was ousted from Apple I was working for a University - we got a NeXT Cube in to look at and, as one of the Uni's Mac geeks I was tasked with evaluating it. We LOVED it, but eventually the simple cost of it put us off equipping a class set of NeXT Cubes. Can't remember what we did with it, but I suspect it got linked into JANet (Joint Academic Network) - hell the old gal's probably still there powered up in a server room :) Thanks man, you've made an old man very happy. Keep up the good work... Subscribed :)

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.

This is the most in depth next cube video I’ve watched. This machine really is an exercise in perfection for the time. It’s really quite a beautiful machine. I’d kinda like to turn that both into a powerful nas

change the bios battery it may leak and damage the motherboard.

@MaddTheSane

4 жыл бұрын

Assuming the previous owner hasn't already did this, yeah.

@mgabrysSF

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it's a lithium battery - because it's clearly marked with the word "lithium". Those don't leak.

@eng3d

4 жыл бұрын

AFAIK, it was a problem with the Macintosh, not with the NeXT

@SaltyCuntno1

4 жыл бұрын

lithium cells dont leak

@Mr_Meowingtons

4 жыл бұрын

@@SaltyCuntno1 yes they do.....

"[...] that let you use your system with color!" That's some real NeXT level stuff!

I appreciate your fantastic background lighting, the blue curtain that is gently lit by the soft lighting makes it look like your making this video 1600 leagues under the sea.

This was just an amazing and enjoyable video ! Thanks for this! Really love it.

This reminds me of my HP server. I guess I’m going to call it the “HP Cube” now

@rostyc

4 жыл бұрын

Also install hackintosh on it for true experience

@Lethaltail

4 жыл бұрын

HePAcube

@IanC14

4 жыл бұрын

What model of server is it?

@superstar64

4 жыл бұрын

IanC14 It’s the HP Proliant Microserver from around 2010 I guess, but I don’t know

@iMadrid11

4 жыл бұрын

superstar64 HP still makes them currently at Gen.10 HP Microservers.The most desirable are the Gen. 8 Microserver with Intel Xeon . The newer Gen.10 models are gimped with less server features.

“It’s about 1mm longer or shorter” ken learns about manufacturing tolerances

@bartwaggoner2000

9 ай бұрын

Unlikely a manufacturing issue as this was molded

@TheExileFox

7 ай бұрын

No. Mold release relief.

I actually bought one of these back in the day. You’re making me seriously nostalgic for a much simpler time…

Very interesting, at my university we have one, and it's very interesting. I love exploring old technology.

Thanks for this vidéo, it remember me this era, when i was programming/learning on this machine. In 95 i owned a cube + color card, shoulf nevers have sell it 😭

This monitor has a HD display, because NeXT MegaPixel Display has a 1120 x 832 resolution, strange, in 1990.

@WildVoltorb

4 жыл бұрын

Daaaaamn

@insoft_uk

4 жыл бұрын

So 94pixels wider than 1024 and 64pixels more than 768 could this be related to the dock on the side and menu so they still have 1024x768 for the main area for work

@sleepy_Dragon

4 жыл бұрын

These dimensions remind me of the DIN A0 paper format: 841 x 1189 mm. That is to achieve exactly one square meter. And the side ratio is kept after halving the paper.

@an1skh4n

4 жыл бұрын

1120 x 832 in 1990 is bonkers. This machine was a decade ahead of it's time

@pedrofelck

3 жыл бұрын

And it doesn't even reach a "megapixel" (1 million of pixels), for that, keeping this aspect ratio, the monitor should have at least 1160x862 of resolution.

Same speed and chip as my Amiga 4000!!! Which I still use today!

normally I tune in to learn from you... this time I tuned in to a trip down memory lane! Thank you for that! Keep an eye for the aftermarket Box to Monitor extension cable, It made placement life so much easier LOL Ciao fer now.

Beautifully well built machine! Like most workstations of this era, seriously expensive but they at least made it look and feel expensive as well :)

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

It was horribly overpriced but it was easy to rake in a chunk of change with these machines.

A lot of history with the Next system with Apple, Id Software programming Doom on it, and of course the first web browser by Tim Berners Lee. The operating system was ported to other CPU architectures too.

I used to have one in 1991. As software programmer, it was a fantastic operating system. By the way, the floppy disk supported special floppies with 2.88 Mega bytes storage, twice the 1.44MB standard at that time.

What a weird blend of modern and ancient. It looks like a lot of trendy PC cases being sold today, which is amazing compared to the usual clunky beige boxes of the time.

8BIT GUY JUST UPLOADED WHILE I WAS WATCHING WHICH ONE DESERVES MY TIME

@JDX_117

4 жыл бұрын

Watch both using picture in picture lol

@urielc918

4 жыл бұрын

USE TWO MONITORS, PREFERABLY THE CINEMA DISPLAY KEN WAS SELLING!

@Prutswerk

4 жыл бұрын

How about taking some time to find the capslock key?

@aretard7995

4 жыл бұрын

@@Prutswerk **alphalock

I was 9 years old when this thing came out. I'm so glad we have USB C/Thunderbolt 4 now. Those chunky cables of the old days definitely won't be missed. However, the idea of passing all data through one cable definitely had it's start there. At the time, my family had a Amiga Commodore 500 which was actually quite advanced for its time especially when compared to PCs. It also had great audio, color video and supported direct output to various types of monitors (like SCART which was a European style plug that greatly simplified connecting video equipment)

Easily the coolest video on KZread about old tech

I just had a spit take of my coffee because at 1m35s there is an asset inventory tag that says "Property of Integrity Solutions". That seriously brought me back... I used to work with them back in the 1996/1997 timeframe. They were one of a handful of NeXT developer shops in the United States, located in Eagan MN. We were developing a WebObjects app and I was on the project as one of the few Java developers in the Twin Cities area due to the fact that NeXT had just added Java as a dev language to WebObjects in addition to Objective-C. Lots of NeXT cubes in the office, although I was actually developing on an NT 4.0 Thinkpad and deploying to a Solaris Sparc server. I never used a Cube as a daily driver personally but damn... Love seeing that. Brought me back almost 30 years... Wow. I love that this machine is still out and about. :)

I knew the borg time traveled to the past but I didn’t know how until now....

@mrkitty777

4 жыл бұрын

😄😃😅

the display connector looks like early HDMI

I totally missed this when it came out, I didn't even have a tv then, so this is really cool, what a beautiful machine!

Even having soft power control was such an amazing experience. I remember around 1993-94 or so thinking being amazed that you didn’t have this big clicking hard power switch (intels ATX didn’t introduce the concept till 1995 and wasn’t widely in clones for ~2 years)

@heiner71

10 ай бұрын

The Macintosh II did this already in 1987

I would definitely replace the stock fan with a Noctua fan and you'll just never hear the worn ball bearing again :D Also, replacing the SCSI hard drive with a SCSI adapter and shove an SSD or SD card in there would be a big leap.

@jiriwichern

4 жыл бұрын

Why replace it, unless you want to spare the aging HDD by not using it. SCSI should support at least 8 devices on its bus (looking at the cable it seems to be the narrow variant. One ID will be reserved for the controller itself, so you have 7 actually useful device IDs). You should be able to just add some more storage devices to it, as long as they are narrow SCSI....

@GabrielAndroczky

4 жыл бұрын

Jiri Wichern Because of the noise it makes after all these years :)

@an1skh4n

4 жыл бұрын

Bubba this is a piece of computing history. Stock components only. Respect the cube.

@Horrordelic

4 жыл бұрын

@@an1skh4n You should upgrade components also, harddrives will eventually fail ..

@garyy818

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the type of connector on the fan, it is probably 120V AC not 12V DC.

Loved this video. Insta-Subscribe!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you ^^

@hamitlonfx9009

3 жыл бұрын

Wow only 15 likes? And one comment!!!

@HoboVibingToMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@everythingpony Really popular retro console/modern console youtuber. Would recommend!

@nelsonhoff7882

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComputerClan Yeah Awesome video Ken!

@paulmuaddib451

2 жыл бұрын

It's always good to see other YT content creators are as big a nerds as we thought they were.

Your videos are therapy and your humor is very on point 😁

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! : )

THIS IS SO AWESOME!!!💯💯💯🔋✔️ I APPRECIATE the people who put in work so we can be where we are today!📱

You could also be on the verge of using the alan wrench on a swiss army knife. I mean there is also a phillipshead screwdriver in there. Missing cabletweesers tho

Just wish I could have one of them, always messed around in parrarelles with the os!

I have used one of these with dimension board back in 1992 at my university. We had to sign up weeks ahead to get an opportunity to use one of these machines. These were also very first computers to come up with attachments for emails.

I have a NeXT workstation, monitor, keyboard and mouse but would LOVE to have a Cube! Awesome Video!!!

The branding should've been... "Built in the USA, made in Japan."

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

Capacitors are so bad now in Asia that the US caps are now popular again with those who know better.

The fact that the case is magnesium is crazy.Pretty cool.

NeXT Cubes are awesome! So long as they're not running 68030's. Those CPUs ran dog slow. I'm glad you have the 68040's! We had a lab of them at college in our computer science lab and we were surfing the internet with them in 1990. I've always been glad to see NeXTStep live on through MacOS and everything. Although not as much of a fan of Objective C... lol

This was always an absolute amazing system! As an Atari ST (and later Atari Falcon) user at that time, I found the Motorola MC68040 processor unbelievable, not to speak of the Intel i860 64-bit processor used as graphics controller, and the Motoral DSP 56k as audio signal processor.

The early all in one display connections show that Apple (Steve) was always into the idea of a one connecter solution. Having just thunderbolt 3 on modern macs shouldn’t have been a surprise to anyone.

@IanC14

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Steve wouldn't replace every port with thunderbolt 3.

@brianmiller1077

4 жыл бұрын

@@IanC14 I dunno, he did something like that with the original iMac.

@TheJeremyHolloway

4 жыл бұрын

Jobs adopted the one-connector solution as a later convert. Joe Decuir at Atari Inc basically pioneered it with the SIO port on the Atari 8-bits in 1979 with every peripheral being a smart device. Apple certainly didn't copy or license that tech for the Apple IIs back then, probably because it would've eaten away at their profits for selling various dedicated accessory controller boards for their platform.

The reason why your hex key got stuck is is probably because you used an imperial key in a metric hole.

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

You're supposed to use a rounded "NeXTTool" to open a cube.

The data sheet was interesting, especially how one could upgrade the dedicated SRAM for the Motorola 56K DSP. I don't recall that being an option on the later Atari Falcon030 which also featured that same Motorola DSP. That was one awesome chip both for audio and for what it can do as a fast co-processor for a 68030 or 68040.

We had some of them at the university and they were absolutly WOW!

19:12 hard drive is going nuts

Those power cables are generally just called "IEC cables" in a lot of professions, technically C13, yes.

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Right-o!

@richardhammer187

4 жыл бұрын

AKA Kettle Lead

What a beautiful motherboard! It looks artistic in the best way!

wow...this is some really old tech where it all started.. thanks for this video, it also seems in the modern version Corsair did the slight revolutionary thing and made a modern version of the case called the Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 Atx Cube Case

Ken: keeps referencing things on Macs Me: crys in Linux and Windows

@uiopuiop3472

4 жыл бұрын

linx winds

@benvinson1164

3 жыл бұрын

Like he said, it’s the base for OSX. In fact, objective C, the language for OSX and iOS apps have references to internal functions that start with NS, for NextStep.

@uiopuiop3472

3 жыл бұрын

@@benvinson1164 |\/||-|/\+!

@happysmash27

3 жыл бұрын

You can still get some NeXTStep-inspired things in certain Linux desktop environments. Anything with a dock, for example. There are even X11 window managers insired by NeXTStep like windowmaker.

@happysmash27

3 жыл бұрын

Despite using Linux today, though, I do remember a lot of the concepts shown here from back when I used Mac OS X 10.6.8, which was the operating system on my old MacBook 3,1 before I eventually switched to Linux and desktop computing. NeXTStep is a pretty old operating system, so all these concepts appeared even in the much older versions of Mac OS X I grew up with.

the title should have been: I Bought a NeXTcube, Whats NeXT?

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe... but my title is allusion to an Apple ad. I pulled a sneaky.

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

World Wide Web!

This was really cool to see. In the 1980's, IBM used an early E-mail called "The Tube". I was elementary school age and this concept amazed me. In '85 or so my dad brought home an IBM 5155 with C-DOS. That, my B/W dot matrix printer, and I made dozens of banners.

@gsxerwhite

9 ай бұрын

"Printshop" we had that at my elementary school. I made a Def Leppard banner

The humming of "The Stripper" would have been a deal-maker if I wasn't already subbed lol...dunno why exactly but that made me chortle 😁👍 This was a lot of fun to watch! I had a customer who had one of these at one point, he "thought" it was packed away in his garage 😳 I tried...believe me, I tried!!...but I couldn't ever talk him into searching/dragging it out. So this was excellent 👌

/me looks at all in one tool. Gets a flashback "You forgot the wireless anti-static band." :D

In the old days craftsmen used purposefully leave an imperfection in their work because only God could create something perfect.

@fulkthered

4 жыл бұрын

@Agent J I think it come from a quote from Jesus where he says "Don't let people call you hot shit on a silver platter when as a human you are only a cold turd on a paper plate compared to God",

@fulkthered

4 жыл бұрын

@Agent J My beliefs have nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.It's a philosophical view that no matter how good you are or how good people tell you are there is always someone, nature/God/universe can kick your ass.

Lovely machines. My first experience was in 1994 at the Fire Research Station at BRE, UK. It was being used to model how people/crowds would exit buildings that were on fire, all written by the person that showed me how it worked. A lovely guy whose name I've sadly forgotten.

Great video. Another fun fact, is the HTML markup language was ripped off from the text editor on the NeXT OS. If you do another video on it, it would be cool to see that.

I believe today's Apple is really NEXT, and the old Apple died on the inside

@MaddTheSane

4 жыл бұрын

Two words: reverse merger.

@IanC14

4 жыл бұрын

Nah today's apple is neither. They are a terrible company nowadays.

@adorabasilwinterpock6035

4 жыл бұрын

Apple is still a great company. People have always hated apple and they’ve been accused of selling “overpriced” products since the 80’s. Quality has a price.

@oldtwinsna8347

4 жыл бұрын

If you mean the Mac, then yes. Apple struggled to get a replacement for its legacy OS since 1989 that was internally acknowledged to be total crap. Organizational dysfunction led to several major projects leading to total failures. Hence, the company was forced to look to the outside for a replacement OS.

@eng3d

4 жыл бұрын

@@adorabasilwinterpock6035 In a nutshell, it sells expensive products that are not the best of the market but they are expensive, walled garden and not serviceable. Most artists and professionals are moved outside of the mac world.

The menu system was similar to IRIX which was also vertical instead of horizontal. Having it a movable item made constantly mousing to the top of the screen a non-issue. It's a pity OSX abandoned that when they did the Aqua Interface to placate Mac users.

Used these in CS classes (well, NeXTstations networked to cubes bas in university, A lab with 60+ NeXTstatsions lined up on desks was a sight to see in '91.

Great trip through history! Oh one way to get around imperfections in a tape measure burn an inch. So line up the 1" mark at the start.

It's beautiful. Steve Jobs was such a visionary man.

@johnc3403

4 жыл бұрын

As Jim Jeffries points out, "new phone won't fit the old charger" Is this your hero?

@campingmods496

4 жыл бұрын

Lets remember what made this all possible. Xerox

Had one of those on my desk in 1994. Was pretty sweet for the time! But the chip density on this board is pretty typical of 1988-1990 boards. If you're going to take chances (and they certainly did!), you don't typically do it on the PCB! :D

@jazzlover10000

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the NeXT motherboard was nothing special. HP-PA Risc had an _awesome_ circuit board..., and it ran NeXTStep.

Absolutey crazy insane interface quality for that time.

fascinating stuff, even though I gave up programming with the zx spectrum, which I still have with a 48k expansion, yes 48k, I found this an enthralling video. Cheers man.