This is definitely something one should consider when shooting ultra powerful big bore handguns.

That is a great deal. The people at BFR are a class act.

Wow that’s interesting, glad you’re OK

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@Leverguns 50 - Thank you. It scared the crap outta me, though that didn't show on camera. When I turned it off I checked myself over and was relieved to have not even a scratch. If damage is limited to the gun, I will thank the good Lord and call it a win!

@Leverguns50

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoBigBoreOrGoHome Surviving without a scratch something like that it’s a miracle

@t-bfr45-70

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leverguns50 have you got your self a BFR yet they probably build one in 50-110 if you ask nice.

@Leverguns50

2 жыл бұрын

@@t-bfr45-70 No but it sure would be cool if they would send me one to try out

@t-bfr45-70

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leverguns50 I still want know how hot one can be loaded in 45-70 before blowing up they won't send me to blow up either and I like mine to much. I say we just have to work on Scott at Kentucky ballistic to destroy his.

These things probably didn’t happen back in the days of high quality and proper manufacturing.

Sean, first off, I’m glad you were not damaged in the making of this video!! Thanks for the video.

I cracked the cylinder on a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter by overloading it by 30%. Ruger, Knowing the overloading issue, repaired it, including shipping both ways, at no cost to me. Which is why I own a number of Ruger handguns.

Glad your OK my dude! Thanks for sharing.

Glad you weren’t hurt bud.

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@Matter of Facts Podcast - Me too! I checked myself over after the camera went off that day and was relieved. Just fixing a damaged gun was a small price to pay.

Barrel obstruction. What ever it was in the barrel. You lucky. Had squib loads before and must be wary of ammo being bad. Anything that sounds funny or recoil that is off everything must stop and find the problem. Them big boys do play. Any ways good luck and new subscriber!🤟🏻

Exposure of the powder to oxygen is not an issue. Powder does not need atmospheric oxygen to ignite, when we reload our powers are exposed to a lot of atmospheric oxygen, that does not affect it.

That is amazing customer service from Magnum Research. I'm very impressed!

Gotta be a little unsettling to have a catastrophic failure in any gun, let alone a beast like that. Seems like you had good fortune sorting it out. I would love to get a BFR in 475 Linebaugh but it seems like none of my local shops are too interested in trying to obtain one.

@Caje-zf8md

2 жыл бұрын

I've found that most gun shops in my area usually don't carry "specialized caliber" handguns. I simply ordered directly from BFR's company with features that I wanted and had it shipped to my local FFL holder.

@EdTom82

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caje-zf8md I've seen the site to build a custom BFR at Magnum Research, but I don't understand why the price is $500 higher when I'm choosing the exact same options that appear on their standard listed model. That, and up to a year wait. I get that it's something of a specialized gun, but it's one that's also in (theoretically, at least) regular production with MRI. Maybe I'll ask around again...

Good thing no one was hurt! Way scary! Also glad to see it fixed and that they stood up for you!

Hmmm. I am skeptical of the squib load being the root cause. But hey, I have only been shooting and reloading for 50 years.

@randyblackburn9765

2 жыл бұрын

Same here , How could a Squibb generate that much pressure and never do I recall a Squibb causing that on any other calibre. I suspect the crack was a result of the barrel blow up or from stress from previous firing of the gun .

@rickoshea8138

2 жыл бұрын

@@randyblackburn9765 Probably another squib stuck a bullet in the barrel. "Chased out" by a normal load, and kaboom...

A squib load causing a weakness in the barrel seems really strange to me.

@AlienMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. How does a squib cause a crack in the barrel?

@justinstasiowski916

Жыл бұрын

A squib doesn't cause a crack in the barrel. There's more to the story.

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

@@justinstasiowski916 He explained in a followup video. Check it out.

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

@@TahoeRealm You didn't watch the video, or the followup video. Simple common sense would tell you to do that.

@TahoeRealm

Жыл бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket You are correct. I commented prematurely and removed the comment. Thank you.

This is why I own RUGER New Super Blackhawks! No issues!

@logangodofcandy

13 күн бұрын

In 500 jrh?

Great deal, just found a used BFR 500 Magnum at a local shop... it went on layaway, as they don't show up around here used.. so 10% down, and 10 mo to pay it off if I choose... I'm going to do it sooner. I inspected it for the usual things to look for. Glad you didn't get hurt in this... but you're right "Go Big Bore, or Go Home"

I have a 7-1/2" barreled BFR in .50 AE that I have considered getting a 500JRH cylinder for, good to see that the frame and cylinder had no damage with that bore obstruction, a split barrel is bad enough but a burst cylinder or cracked frame could be worse.

I use a Amazon plumbing bore scope on most of my guns. Cost about 35 to 40 dollars. Connects to your phone flawlessly. I even used it in stores a few times when purchasing a used 44mag rifle.

@extragoogleaccount6061

2 жыл бұрын

Thats pretty sweet. Something like that was a specialty tool 10-15 years ago. Now less than 50 bucks to consumer!

Thats crazy. I am just glad you are ok.

My first BFR 500 Magnum, a 10" with the old JT serial number style like yours, ripped the scope base, scope rings, and ejector off from overpressure handloads. My new BR serial BFR 500 Magnum with a 7.5" barrel, one of the trigger guard/frame screws fell out and the rest are loose. I still need to get it fixed. Using four steel scope rings instead of two aluminum ones has kept the scope base alive though, that and I glued the entire scope base onto the back strap with red loctite flange sealant before putting the screws in, per MRI's recommendation.

The wood grips on the short barrel do look pretty.

Thankfully it was only the barrel sir. Very interesting video. I had something similar happen with a round before. The barrel was fine but the round fell out the front with the powder bunched.

Glad that you are ok. Guns can always be replaced.

@ilovetrump1252

Жыл бұрын

Not in Canada.

@phillhuddleston9445

Жыл бұрын

@@ilovetrump1252 Sounds like you need to have your government replaced or at least it's "leaders". Yes I know the US is setting a poor example right now so we have little room to talk.

I love that grip on the jrh , also like the bisley , it's more comfortable to me. I've got the bfr in 454 and thinking about trading or selling it to get the 500 linebaugh.i love that 5 1/2 barrel also.

I had two squibs on two separate occasions, and different guns, produced by the same factory of ammo. The 1st was with my 500 S&W 3.5”, the 2nd was with 642 S&W. Would be interesting to know if we are talking about the same manufacturer

They need to make a double action version!!!

I had an identical problem but I found was a partially obstructed flash hole. I got it rectified and now it works as smooth as silk. That case was bad but a little scraping with a small screwdriver cleaned out the gunk and now there is no problems. I couldn't find any cracks on the barrel for frame so I think I am fine. I fired it ten times since with no problems.

Wow a lucky escape!All I've ever had with bullets stuck in barrels is .22 CB caps!Seems to happen with rifles rather than handguns presumably because the CB's don't always have the power to drive them up the barrel?You don't always notice a stuck one and send another up it's rear and sometimes it blows out the stuck one at a very low velocity sort of Daisy gun levels,250 fps,but sometimes you end up with 2 stuck!

That’s a huge bullet jump for the 500. If they had made a shorter cylinder that was made for the 500, I would have bought it instead on the Smith and Wesson. But they didn’t and I love the Smith

I'm glad nobody got hurt it could have been much worse

Good to hear you had good luck with Magnum Research. I finally canceled an order for a 45-70 after 9 months of them telling me "idk how much longer it'll be" Finally found a 500 at a gun show. Love it.

@suemeade2471

Жыл бұрын

It takes around a year for it to be done

@collincutler4992

Жыл бұрын

@@suemeade2471 well, you'd think the people who made them would have an idea of how long it would take. All I could get from them was "I don't know" For as much as they cost they need to provide an answer.

At least you are okay

Most guns you would think could handle a squid and if properly tapped out there shouldn't have been any damage to the barrel. I'm wondering if the barrel didn't come defective from the factory perhaps anomaly in the production of the barrel or the material used on the barrel one tiny bit of hardness not properly cryo freezed to correct they're always other amazing little tricks they use to make that metal all the same hardness again and voila you shoot a defective barrel then they bill you for the replacement. Or as much as we spend on those revolvers and for shooting factory ammunition through it and barrel should have been free of charge

@rickoshea8138

2 жыл бұрын

It is not the squib that was discovered and removed that did this. It was another one that was (un)discovered by shooting it out....

Your angel is looking over you

Me: Sees first ten seconds of video. Also Me: "Well...that was disconcerting!"

Never had no problems with my FREEDOM ARMS. Red scopes are a different story.

Squib loads can be caused by excess cylinder play which I have just learned on my Dan Wesson 44. It causes a light primer strike which can lead to a fizzle. Strange but true.

I recently also had a very similar squib in my ruger new model super blackhawk 454 cassul-factory federal fusion ammo 260 g.bonded soft point.these are milder loads.curious if yours was with federal ammo?I had already in past shot over 10 boxes of same ammo,no problem.I usually shoot buffalo boar heavy loads,but was plinking with friends.Now I think I will have a gunsmith check the barrel!By the way,I went to my local welding shop and for about 3 bucks bought a couple different diameter welding rods to use in case of another obstruction.

Glad no one was hurt

Glad you're OK man. What do you think about the large free-bore in the 500S&W in the BFR?

Maybe they need to ask Ruger what alloy and where they buy their barrel steel from. If it aint the steel, there aint enough of it!

I literally just had this in some factory 357 sig ammo lucky I caught it I am hoping it is not doing the same.

On that 500 jrh, there was no reason for what you're explaining is a squib load to cause that Barrel to crack, that's provided that the barrel had the proper metallurgy. My guess is it it may have been slightly low with silicon, which reduces the ductility of the Steal of the barrel. Because unless you fired a bullet behind that squib load. That's the only way to impart enough pressure into that Barrel to even cause such a failure. And for some reason in the last five or six years I have seen bad Metallurgy from Firearms tools all kinds of things that I never used to see before. Part of this is because they're buying their steel to specification but not testing the steel that they get to make sure it meets that specification. The bolts on the newly manufactured m-14s by General Dynamics several years ago as a case in point. They were buying their steel to spec and they did not realize that the pickling solution put on the steel to ship it overseas was leeching the Silicon out of the steel provided the Silicon was put in in the first place. At about seventy-five hundred rounds the bolts were starting to get cracks in them. Once they Justin all of their steel they found that the steel that they were using to make their bolts certainly was low on Silicon.

Honestly, i wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Classic symptoms of a bad primer or very weak primer. Had it happen in a 45-70 using Reloader 7. Big Column of powder that was fused together

I learned not to shoot cowboy loads in mine. It took 30 minutes to eject a casing so I never use that ammo again.

Well, that's poopy. But I guess it could have been much, much, much worse. Still a bit freaky nonetheless.

The first pistol there was 100% another bullet lodged in the end of the barrel. You want us to believe that you somehow had the same issue on two of the strongest built revolvers? Not a chance but I do appreciate you showing the video. Slow down, go over your processes and make sure everything you are doing is good to go. Appreciate the video, does good to remind us all to be careful. Look forward to more!

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@Matthew - Uh, no the .500 JRH did not have a bullet lodged in it's barrel when it blew. First, that was literally the first round I put through it that day and I had recently cleaned it. No lodged bullets. Secondly, when there is a bullet lodged, the barrel dies not simply split. There is a bulge where the two bullets collide. The photos show no such thing. Thirdly, the statement of what caused the damage came from the gunsmith at MRI. You're welcome to draw what opinions you want, but you didn't put your hands on the revolver and MRI did. You're being an armchair quarterback. As to barrels cracking on "the strongest built revolvers", feel free to verify with MRI what I'm about to say as this is what they told me. The barrel on the BFR was designed to be the weakest part on the revolver so it would be the failure point. In short, if there's a catastrophic failure, the barrel will be the first thing to go and the resulting shrapnel, bullet, and other particles will mostly be shot away from the shooter. In short, this is done on purpose for safety. Most manufacturers do this to protect the shooter. The AR-15's designed failure point is the gas tube. Easy to replace and turns the gun into a bolt action, more or less. And something I've learned since starting this channel is that stainless steel is more likely to fracture then chrome-moly (blued) steel. In speaking with Jack Huntington on these barrels, he said he replaces fare more fractured stainless barrels than chrome-moly ones. In the fracture of the forcing cone on the .500 S&W Magnum, the problem was obvious to both the folks at MRI and myself. There were uneven wear patterns showing the bullets were hitting one side of the barrel harder than the other. This lead to the barrel being hammered harder at the forcing cone on one side than the other. The point of contention was that I had sent the gun to JRH Advanced Gunsmithing to have a muzzle break added which means they took the barrel off. So, there were suggestions that the barrel had been reinstalled incorrectly. Jack's team does good work, so it's hard to say if they did reinatall it incorrectly, if it was installed incorrectly in the first place, or even if the timing was off on the cylinder rotation. All I can tell you is for some reason bullets were hitting one side of the forcing cone than the other and this is not normal wear and tear, causing the forcing cone to crack. There's also one other thing to consider. Most people don't shoot their .44 Magnum even 500 times in their life. I do that in six months. That .500 S&W Magnum cracked at 325 rounds. I have since definitely crested that 500 round mark. In short, I shoot my guns a lot. Especially in research for this channel. I will put more rounds down range with my guns than most, so I'm going to have more wear and tear, period. You will therefore see me dealing with this more frequently than most people. All things being equal, when the. 500 JRH barrel split. I thought I had an over-pressured round. MRI confirmed it was due to a crack in the barrel that had been collecting debris for sometime. I believe the lodged .50 AE bullet that took Thor's hammer to dislodge was the culprit. But that's the diagnosis from the guy who repairs them for a living. You can believe what you want.

I just lucked into getting a 7.5” 500 JRH. It has the factory rubber grip. I like nicer grips. I’m glad to see the really nice set work so well for you. Looks like I’ll be swapping as well. And looking forward to a 500 Special cylinder(I don’t care to deal with the shoot-the-Special-in-the-JRH-cylinder-and-deal-with-crud-buildup-at-the-throats game). Is it really worth getting the AE cylinder with the component bullets being higher than 500 S&W bullets(jacketed)? And are you having any issues with bullet creep with just a taper crimp with the AE cylinder? So glad you’re alright. And thanks for sharing the video.

@phillhuddleston9445

Жыл бұрын

I have one in .50 AE and my first handloads had some minor creep issues but I basically crimped them to the max after that which means about as firm of a crimp that I felt comfortable doing and never had any more problems. The little creep on the first few I loaded only moved the bullets a small amount but still not acceptable. BTW the only bullets I shoot out of it are 340 gr. hard cast SWC from a RCBS mold. I would think jacketed bullets would be a non-issue. I was considering getting a 500 JRH cylinder because of the greater selection of bullets available for it because of the roll crimp so I really don't see any advantage to having a .50 AE cylinder other than maybe the fact that factory loads for the .50 AE are easier to get but if you reload that's really a non-issue. The only reason I bought mine in .50AE is that they were not offered in 500 JRH at the time and it was on a really good sale.

@robertfree1908

Жыл бұрын

@@phillhuddleston9445 thanks for the input. Yeah, I think I’ll pass on the 50 AE cylinder…..maybe. But the Special cylinder is a certainty for me. Starline made the Special case by just cutting down 500 S&W cases(this is per a Starline rep via email). Without boring out those Special cases you will only get shorter bearing surface bullets to seat without bulging the case. I don’t know what the limits are as far as viable bullets go. But I’m looking forward to finding out. Thanks again. And Merry Christmas to you and yours

That might not be the whole story . Cast bullets being driven too hard will expand in the bore to such a degree that they place great radial pressure on the barrel and that's where the initial cracking came from add to that extra fouling buildup . Once the barrel has a crack it weakened the whole barrel . Eventually it just gave up . Some stainless steels are poor quality and not as strong as chrome moly steel is . Some people are very poor hand loaders and always push over pressure unsafe loads until something breaks . The trouble with a handgun is the barrel is small diameter and weak in the thread area and if it has a big bore there is no real safety margin of steel thickness left . The cracked forcing cone is what I am talking about .

Where did the black grip come from and will it work on a Bisley ? I have the 450 10" barrel Enjoyed your video!

My cousin blew up his Freedom Arms 454 By underloading it. Recipe calls for 26gr he used 19gr. (296) They fixed it for free

They must not have been making all of these things out of high quality steel and with the proper gauge thickness scale.

is the frame of the Smith and Wesson 500 or the bfr more robust and reliable?

How many rounds did you fire between the squib cartridge and the failure? I'm a materials and corrosion engineer. I'm disabled now, but I'm always interested in causal analysis of failures. I wonder whether there was any fatigue component to this failure or whether everything was a single overload failure.

@robertfree1908

2 жыл бұрын

He explains the failure if you watch the entire video. It wasn’t an overload. Watch the video again you’ll see(hear) the cause

@VTPSTTU

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertfree1908 No, he doesn't explain the failure in terms of the mechanism of crack growth. He said that there was an irregularity in the barrel as a result of the squib fire and the effort to remove the stuck bullet. He said that debris built up in that irregularity and caused an obstruction. That explanation does not tell what is happening metallurgically. I'm asking whether there was a fatigue crack that ran to failure or whether the failure resulted from an overload that grew a crack from initiation to complete failure in only one pressure cycle. When the crack grows from initiation to complete failure in one cycle, that's called an overload or maybe single overload. If the buildup of material in the irregularity caused higher than normal pressures over a series of shots fired, then the crack may have initiated from some shots and then grown a little more with each shot until final failure. That might not be something that he would see, but the manufacturer might have done that analysis. If I were buying a gun from this company, I would hope that they did this analysis on any failed barrels that customers returned.

@rickoshea8138

2 жыл бұрын

@@VTPSTTU He removed one squib bullet. Probably had another that just seemed like the gun was empty. Followed by a full load.

@VTPSTTU

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickoshea8138 Are you now saying that there were two squibs in a box of factory ammunition and that they just happened to fire one immediately after the other? That seems like a very low probability. The fact that you said "probably" also tells me that the video doesn't explain exactly what happened. I've spent decades doing metallurgical failure analysis. "Probably had another" doesn't help much in understanding the cause of failure. That's why I asked the question. I really don't believe that he fired one squib, removed the obstruction, and then fired another squib without realizing that he'd fired a second squib. I can't rule that out completely, but I'm skeptical. Again, that's why I ask the question and look for something more than "he already explained that." The explanation that I understood was that removing the squib left some kind of irregularity in the barrel and that residue built up in the barrel as a result of that irregularity. I'm curious how many rounds went down the barrel to cause residue to build up enough so that the barrel would be obstructed to the point of splitting. I'm curious in part because I wonder whether the split happened because a fatigue crack grew from that irregularity or whether the failure came from a single overload of a barrel that did not have a growing crack. If you aren't familiar with fatigue fracture, ductile overload, brittle overload, stress corrosion cracking, hydrogen cracking, and other metallurgical failure modes, that's fine. Maybe none of this is going to make any sense to you. I'm disabled now, but those things were once my career, and they still interest me. I was hoping to learn evidence that would allow me to understand what happened in that context. I'm not sensing that you can see where I'm going with this.

@rickoshea8138

2 жыл бұрын

@@VTPSTTU Quite frankly, that barrel looks like a brittle failure along lines with sulphur inclusions. The very reason why there is a 416R stainless alloy to prevent such failures that have occurred in the past. As for one squib load somehow reducing the chances for another. I see it exactly the opposite way. Whatever filters are normally in place to prevent squibs, failed. That proves it can happen. If it happens once, it MORE likely to happen again, until the root cause is found and eliminated. I feel like we don't have all the info. That said barrels don't split due to metal fouling. They bulge due to having one bullet ram into one that is stuck in the barrel. If a revolver barrel splits along its full length without bulging, there is a flaw in the steel. If you overload a revolver by using too much or too fast a propellant, it is the cylinder walls that fail, not the barrel. If removing a squib bullet damages a barrel then the person doing it must be a butcher. Short of using an oversized punch, there is no way that tapping a bullet out of a barrel induces more stress than firing it through. So, I don't know what happened, but someone is covering there a ss. I understood that the revolver manufacturer charged for a replacement barrel because the load fired when it failed was a reload? An independent lab would have had a look at the fracture sites on the barrel and found the revolver manufacturer, or their steel supplier liable. But that is speculation about evidence that we will never see. The two squibs did not have to follow one after the other. More like, if you find a rat in your house, there is a hole that will allow other rats to enter. Rather than some karmic law that only allows one rat or squib per household.

I don't see how a squib load could crack the barrel, since you found it and removed the bullet before firing another round. I think something else caused the crack.

@rickoshea8138

2 жыл бұрын

Something else, like another squib load. Chased by the one that blew the barrel.

I never use reload ammunition in these fine firearms, But not disagreeing with anyone who does.

Great video showing reasons not to buy a BFR. I love my Freedom Arms Premier Grade model 83 7 1/2" barrel in 454 Casull with accessory cylinders in 45 Colt, 45 Winchester Magnum and 45 Automatic.

This video is a perfect example of why i wont buy used handguns. You never know what has been done or by who. So far in over 50:years of shooting 0 mishaps.

God,be,the,you

My 500 JRH blow up and thay blamed the loads but the base pin broke and caused a misalignment. I deal with machining and withe heat treated product every day for my living. The base pin had broken before the bug boom .i was lucky to not get hurt .some of the parts were never found some were 30 yard awayI will never buy there product again.

At least you killed the pumpkin........ I have a 1911 barrel with three splits from the chamber to the bushing. Squib my fault an unnamed new york manufacter told me to crush the serial numbered part of the frame No help at all

I have a BFR IN 475 and a 500 linebaugh from Jack himself and a Freedom arms in 454 and seeing 2 of the BFRs have issues. I don’t know. I shoot 480 Ruger out of the BFR. IT SHOULD BE OK.

So you had TWO Magnum Research barrels that either blew up or cracked a forcing cone? Seems they need to do a little more research. I was going to buy a BFG 44 Mag tomorrow. Glad I saw it, Ill get a Freedom or Ruger instead.

@phillhuddleston9445

Жыл бұрын

I have one chamber in .50 BMG and have had zero issues so far, I can see your concern but I've heard about flukes from Ruger as well, never heard anything bad about Freedom Arms but I'm guessing they don't produce the volume of guns that BFR does and certainly less than Ruger.

Was that bad 50AE ammo from Freedom Munitions

Dang. A string of bad luck.

I just do not see how a squib load on its own cracked a barrel. My own assumption would be that barrel was a flaw from day one, but I am not an expect so I just do not know.

Me want one still.

Personally, I don't think people should hide the identity of a company when that company's ammo causes their gun to explode. If I have a tire blow out due to a manufacturer's defect, I won't refuse to tell people who the tire manufacturer is.

Soooo….today is a go home.

The strongest handgun I own is chambered in 343 casual. I figure if I need more than that I'd use a rifle.

I measure EVERY BULLET DIA. WHEN RELOADING

I pushed some hand loads this past month that I'm jammed up my gun so bad I've had to remove the barrel on both of them. Rifle charges and the only one that had lasting damage was the AR where I had to have some parts in the extractor and bolt replaced

Should have bought a Freedom Arms.

Nah they should’ve replaced it for free

This "squib" event often happens with 44 Mag ammo as well. Just don't pull the trigger after one. These are unavoidable, especially with reloads. Supposedly has to do with primer pressure being wrong and powder not burning fast enough. I learned just to live with them.

So sad

If you are spending that much on a revolver, you might as well get the best and go Freedom Arms. Far superior firearm in every way including quality, fit, finish, stainless steel and far better specs. You will not have cracks in forcing cone, or strength issues elsewhere. BTW, if you ever lodge a bullet in the barrell like you did, get it to a gunsmith or the factory. You got lucky it wasn't worse.

I wouldn’t buy anything for magnum research zero but that’s my opinion get yourself a Smith and Weston cold day

+1 sub👍

There's no way. You definitely fucked up a reload. And you also almost looked straight down the barrel before remembering you were filming. lol

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@Tony Jackson - Listen, Troll. First off, I didn't "almost look down the barrel". I noticed the barrel looked odd so I looked at it sideways to see it better and, if you noticed the shock on my face, was completely stunned when I saw the barrel split. But, hey, thanks for calling me stupid. Secondly, when you fuck up a reload in a revolver, it will cause a problem in the cylinder or at the forcing cone. Damage will be at the frame and/or cylinder. The barrel was damaged after the frame. Per Jack Hunting (as in the guy who developed the .500 JRH) who watched the footage, and the folks who put their hands on the revolver at MRI, the most likely cause was a barrel obstruction or prior damage to the barrel. There was a previous crack they could see in the barrel with fouling that accumulated. I had a along discussion with them about this. They believe my previous bad round from a box of .50 AE factory ammo was the culprit as some of the powder had ignited and pushed it further into the barrel than a normal squib. Also, per Jack Huntington, stainless steel can fracture in barrels and he's seen it happen many, many times. He prefers chrome-moly steel for this reason. Third, do you just go around the internet being a know-it-all jack-off to everyone? Is your life that sad that all you can do is call other people stupid? I love how you consider yourself an expert on this after you saw 8 minutes summing up over a month of investigation and talking to gunsmiths and gun builders. You're a winner!

@TahoeRealm

Жыл бұрын

@@GoBigBoreOrGoHome F’ing right - send the trolls back under the bridge!

It seems pretty unlikely that squib load would cause a crack in the barrel. Even if you had to use a steel rod & hammer to get the bullet out (a bit of Kroil around the bullet would help it out, BTW). It seems to me the manufacturer should have replaced the barrel at no cost to you, as most likely it was a defect in barrel to begin with and had nothing to do with a squib! Let's face it, squibs are relatively low pressure events. I've had experience with cracked barrels before, on a Ruger Redhawk 44 Mag. I had a few rounds through it, mostly lite (relatively speaking) loads with a 200 gr lead flat point bullets, with a few 240 gr JHP loads of W296 that are pretty well maxed out. My other .44, a Vaqureo eats them up without problem. However, when checking the bore for leading I found a couple of circumferential cracks just forward of the forcing cone, in the rifling. After a lot of hesitation I finally got around to sending it back to Ruger, who replaced the barrel & returned it to me. I shot a total of 18 rounds of my lead bullets and 6 of my hot loads then checked for leading. Imagine my surprise when I found some even worse cracks than before in the same area! Unfortunately, my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer about this time (she is fine now but there are few things as scary as that!) So it took a while before I was able to concentrate on anything other than my wife, so 5 years passed before I got around to returning the pistol to Ruger. They determined there was something off with the frame and sent me a completely new pistol, free of charge! One thing I should have done was request that they use my original trigger assembly, which had one of the best triggers I've ever felt on a Ruger (pardon me while i brag a bit because I did the work!) but I didn't even think of it. The bad part was the new pistol arrived with some issues that I resolved myself (if I had picked the gun up in a LGS I would never have taken it home!) but it took a fair amount of work and the trigger still needs a bit of work on it but it shoots well so I'm not going to whine too awful much! The point being is that is the way customer service should work. Cheers, jc

Why should you have to pay anything at all when their gun basically blew up in your face? With factory ammo!?!? Luckily nobody was injured but any reputable company would have fixed that gun free of charge and with free shipping. I wouldn't be very pleased if I were you.

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You won’t mention the ammo manufacturers name for everyone’s benefit because they bought you off with free ammo. Traitor.

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@JBHickok - No, for two reasons. First, a bad round happens to every manufacturer sooner or later. And second, I really don't want any legal issues. They took my complaint seriously and discussed their findings with me, so I don't feel like they tried to sweep it under the rug.

@danhantheman

2 жыл бұрын

Who even makes 500 jrh ammo besides Buffalo bore? Lol it’s BB

Don’t use +p ammo.

@GoBigBoreOrGoHome

2 жыл бұрын

@joshballesteros - No +P ammo was used. Neither the factory loads nor the handle ads exceeded normal pressures.

1 bad round could have cost you your face....I would name the company....not good...

I have a pre-2000 10" Bbl. 45/70 with an extra cylinder in 450 Marlin belted magnum. Taken many deer with this rig. I will not say what I paid for it. Wondering what it is worth?

The fact that you didn’t know you shot a squib should tell everyone what they need to know about your qualifications to handle firearms.

@logangodofcandy

13 күн бұрын

He did know he shot a squib. He removed the squib. He later shot the gun after the damage was done, causing the split....

I don’t believe I could trust these guns, if I’m understanding right u have had to of them to get cracks in the barrels,