I think they're sitting in the throne together. They both have their own special abilities with other morphs. We have both and my I eye typically goes to the Hypos first. But I still love the contrast the DG can bring.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Couldn’t agree more, friends! Both are amazing and do amazing things!

As someone who’s been working hypo for years now, I’m so glad to see it finally getting the respect it deserves.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo has definitely been getting recognition recently and we love it too!

My opinion... DG still king for sure!! And I saw the biggest decline in DG over the testing debacle! Anyone that was selling DG and especially hets saw a huge decline in sales and prices dropped dramatically at that time. That is what uncertainty does. Hypo is still amazing and both have their place, they are like PB and j! Go great together! But DG being the PB because it's so much better by the spoonful by itself 😅 Great video 👌

@ballsstrikespythons7579

3 күн бұрын

I agree with this 100%. Over saturation had nothing to do with the "fall off the cliff" pricing of DG. The genetic testing "snafu" saying DG wasn't a "true" recessive led to an immediate stop to almost all DG sales. It scared a TON of people away from DG making everyone think you can breed a DG to a DG and potentially not get a DG in the pairing. Also only 1 person has ever called Hypo a "white trash" gene that I know of. I agree that Hypo wasn't worked by many people but there are guys like Mike Cano at Fabled Creations have been making ground breaking Hypo combos for many many years. Both projects are well worth their market pricing. Both projects make the long term goal of having ball pythons retain their brilliant colors throughout their life span possible. But for me DG>Hypo.

They are both must-haves! I’m using them both as cornerstones to my projects. I think it depends on what the goal of the project is, but overall, I like DG most. I REALLY like high contrast combos with dark darks and bright colors. When so many people seemed to lose their minds over the issues with DG tests, I became even more of a fan. I want DG in everything!

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Love DG! I really love that contrast too and I can’t wait to make some Sunset DG combos! Thank you for watching friend! We appreciate you!

@DragonbornHS

2 күн бұрын

The polymorphism theory most definitely hurt it. I hope people realize a het is a het like any other.

Hypo makes dark morphs way brighter It's a must have in any dark combo makes them pop so much Love the content

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Completely agree! Love it!

Hypo is definitely King! But I love em both together. Dg hypo project is by far my favorite project in the hobby.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo is amazing and I love how well DG and Hypo work together! Thank you for watching btw!

Hypo the world!!! I have both, but I love hypo in everything!

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Thank you friends!! We love both too and are stoked for both genes!

Works for me. Glad I have it. I'll just work hypo into a project that others haven't.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Get it friend! Can’t wait to see what all you do!

I always loved the frosty appearance that comes with hypo and the tones in brings in, I always thought it had alot more potential .. I also love the how clean and refined desert ghost is along with the solid blacks making great contrast .. I have both in my collection an I think both are amazing and i personally can't pick a favourite 😂

@q-starajm3239

5 күн бұрын

Also great video

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

We have both too and are super excited to work both of them!

I’ve been team hypo for almost a decade haha I knew it was undervalued and would rise eventually. Do I think it’s overthrown DG? No, I don’t even really think it’s sitting at the table yet. I do think it could though, especially as more hypo DG stuff gets produced. Not every combo works but I think hypo DG is honestly the project with the most potential, it goes with almost everything to make a nicer animal.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Love that they work so well together!

Loved this video such great perspective and there’s so many things yet to be done with each of them!

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Thank you friend! Can’t wait to see all the other amazing combos everyone hits!

Awesome video topic and great recap of the history of the genes. Personally, I feel Hypo is far superior to DG, although I think the two together work really well. I think the DG A,B,C fiasco hurt DGs popularity a good bit. Also, the rapid rise of Lace is also putting a dent into DG's market share. Personally, I want to work Hypo and Lace together to make what I think will be the best balance of the trio.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Lace is super interesting and I can’t wait to see how Lace fits in too! We have a Lace YB Het Clown girl we are growing up and I can’t wait until she is up to size!

Hypo was also the cheap way to get into double recessives and eventually pair to make triple hets. So many people had het hypo stuff so it was kind of a BOGO deal and the least expensive way to have the most potential for your direction. This is at the time where triple recessives started to gain traction

@lanedj801

5 күн бұрын

I know because that’s the gene I got into at Pennys’s the cost of other recessive stuff.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Completely agree and it works so well with other recs! Definitely a must have!

BOTH! Ideally when used together. DG was hurt 1st by the name being affiliated with Desert and 2nd by the polymorphism theory. But it is so good, it will not get lost. Ditching it has proven a loss in the past and nothing has changed, so it will be a loss again for those who drop it.

Hypo for the win!

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Love it! Thank you for commenting!

Fascinating view point. I think youre correct in that its perspective. Taking value out of the equation imo dg does almost opposite of what hypo does. One sharpens and cleans up, the other ghosts out. Both have incredible potential and at this point in the hobby with the knowledge we have and testing avail we can all work whatever we prefer. Ill stick with dg😁

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Agree! They do different things and both are awesome at they do! Thank you so much for watching and for commenting!

Thanks for another informative show

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching friend!

Great episode. Really respect your researching and delivery. Often feel you are reading my mind. Seemingly hit on the same topics I’m currently thinking of. I’m heavily invested in both genes.. most recent buys were hypo, asphalt het pied and enchi, Mojave triple het VPI, DG, pied. I have hypo, Ultramel, Pieds too 😁🐍💪🏻🤘🏻can’t wait to see what I like best year 1.

I honestly wonder what morphs could still come out of nature in the future

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Right? I can’t wait to see where the hobby is in ten years!

Awesome video Steven. This is a tough one. I can tell you the “buzz” seems to be around Hypo right now and I’ve been trying to figure out the best way to get it into my collection. I think a big advantage it has is it can go to just about anything and come out looking good.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Yes! I love the attention hypo has been getting recently! Thank you for watching btw! We appreciate you!

Great info thanks

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Thank you man!

Personally I prefer DG for the contrast but Hypo definitely has its place.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

DG does amazing things with contrast! Thank you for watching and for commenting!

I love Desert ghost, But I like the GHI Mojave in Hypo.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Both are amazing! Thank you so much for watching and for commenting btw!

I love them both!!

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Same!

I have always loved hypo my ghi Mojave ghost is just as vibrant as when he was younger the color has only gotten better it's the most beautiful grey color too. I have 4 hypos and plan to try to make tsk hypo, clown hypo and puzzle hypo all eventually😍

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Those sound amazing friend! Can’t wait to see what all you hit!

With a title like this, I couldn’t not watch! Great video and overview of Hypo.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo has been killing it! Can’t wait to see what all you produce friend!

Nice video, I like them both 👍! Working on Enhancers for now, planning to add Hypo at some point ! I think the biggest thing that fucked DG is DGa and DGb.

When it comes to dark morphs I prefer hypo over dg but I think dg hypo looks better than both

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo with dark morphs is amazing! Thank you for watching and for commenting!

Hypo 🤘🏼

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

🙌🙌

I prefer hypo over dg individually but that’s me. Others can pursue the dg while I perfect hypo combos they can later add. I’ll let them enjoy the rat race.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo has definitely grown on me a ton especially with sunset stuff! Thank you for watching btw, Brandon!

😊 beautiful snakes

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Thank you friend!

Shout out to you Steven for giving Kevin at NERD his "just due" and recognition. I hate the aspect of our hobby that doesn't give props and praise to the OGs of the hobby/industry. Even to this day, Kevin works with morphs and genes that your average ball python breeder doesn't know or recognize, yet when you see them....THEY BLOW YOUR FRIGGIN' MIND!!!!! .....such as Odium.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

They discovered so many morphs! They will always be a legend in the ball python world!

Has Hypo overthrown DG? In my opinion for now DG is still above hypo. But with kind of this video which shows the difference hypo could up-level the Ball Python combo, the hypo will at least reach the level of DG. And yeah, DG will slightly down just because all people has DG in their collection.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Completely agree! Hypo does awesome stuff and I feel it is just recently that it has really started getting recognition but DG is just as critical and still a bit more popular

Hypo over DG all day ❤

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Hypo has definitely been on the rise! Thank you for watching btw!

I've been saying for years Hypo is superior to DG.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Super happy the hobby has started to shift its opinion on hypo!

Hypo over DG, but Lace over both!

It’s a diarchy.

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

Love it! Awesome show with Shane last night btw!

@HerpCollectors

3 күн бұрын

@@LeviathanSnakes thank you!!!

Didn’t watch yet but DG is much better IMO

@LeviathanSnakes

3 күн бұрын

I think it all depends on the exact combo but we love DG and Hypo both! Thank you for commenting btw!