This was a really great video Dan. Thanks for sharing!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul!

@orlanmedina3693

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the share. Keep bringing the knowledge

@4422660

4 жыл бұрын

Really great video!!!!!

@johnacena7883

4 жыл бұрын

Yes: sir Dan me I was really so impressed about your very nice and helpful for ours many viewers about your videos and regarding this issue about EV and high bridge cars and I want watch more and more videos at your working time thank you very sir And my the more blessings on and your family as well see we hope to see you again sir dan at your videos

@rickstjohn4113

3 жыл бұрын

@@electricgarage6556 That was a similar car to demonstrate the ready light.

Hi Dan, I am an auto electrical trainer/ assessor and in my quest to train the next generation of auto electricians, trying to find good KZread videos is a mission. I came across your videos last year and have been referring apprentices to your channel ever since. I have had great feedback from them and I must say that your presentation is excellent and easy to understand. Just yesterday I went to train an apprentice and the first reception that I got from him was an excited "Hey Dennis ..I watched one of Dan's video's on a BMW and it taught me so much.' Thanks, Dan for passing your knowledge on to the next generation with such expertise and passion.

@alan6832

5 ай бұрын

I do wish it was a 2013 Prius V with this problem like my friends, which was above my skills and tools so we just towed it to a shop. It showed low hybrid battery plus yellow lights for hybrid system, check engine, yellow brake symbol probably meaning ABS, and "slip" light probably meaning traction control, plus car was slow and engine idled fast. Then as I drove it to the shop, the red "electric power steering" light came on, and the engine died and would not restart. The shop turned out to be down hill, but my friend called a tow truck anyway.

I love how you've gotten so much more comfortable working in front of the camera, but still haven't lost any of that deer in the headlights charm. Kudos.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

If you stand in front of a camera the first time it's very uncomfortable. Getting used to it now. Thanks for the great comment and Happy Holidays

Great work Dan its nice to see that there still are professionals out there , usually mechanics nowadays just replace everything and hope it will be fixed

Found your channel about a week ago and binge watched every video, i've been a mechanic for over 20hrs and have learned lots in the last week from you, your a great teacher

Hi Dan, Awesome Diag and repair, very professional! Merry Christmas to you and your family!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ivan, Happy Holidays to you and your beautiful family 😊🎄

Dan I'm so very happy to have found your channel.I'm also a professional automotive technician that does all the diag. for my shop and you truly have a way of explaining things and going above and beyond to make sure your viewers understand what you are doing and more importantly why.

@mk-jl3zd

Жыл бұрын

Great video again,just like reading and watching a textbook,fantastic job sir,so very intuitive.

Mr. Dan, I actually think I’ll pass my car electronics exams with Your help! Thx for making those awesome videos. Anyone mentioned You are a great teacher?

Dan, your selfless and interactive training is invaluable to especially countries where hybrid electric vehicles are new. You must be considered a gift to humanity .

Wow Dan thanks for that . I've been in this trade for 22 years and I'm still learning everyday. Keep up the good work

Incredibly helpful Dan. I recently purchased an Outlander phev and always wondered how the batteries were setup. I'm also very very glad that you are using HV gloves given that I am a Power Engineer. I would also recommend a flash visor to protect your face from flashovers. I worked in LV Distribution boxes myself and have seen electrical arcs form when pulling links. All the best mate.

I'm not a technician but a 'do it yourselfer'. Your videos gives me insight on what to look for when a problem arises, thanks.

Great Video Dan , I'm a retired master tech 37 years exp. love your technical videos!

Thanks for another great video. Though I've been driving an old Escape Hybrid for about a year, I've never had to diagnose any "hybrid" related issues on any car. Thanks to you, I feel I will be better prepared the day one shows up. BTW, that is a very nice tool you are giving away. I hope you spell my name correctly this time when you announce the winner! May you and your family have the Merriest of Christmases and a very Happy New Year! We're looking forward to seeing more of you in the new year.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays and thanks for watching!

Dan, you are a good instructor, easy to understand and follow. Emphasis on safety and protocols, excellent.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Harry, happy holidays

99% of technicians keep their knowledge a secret. Dan has opened the way for us to have a community where we can share rather than hide tips and tricks! Thank you Dan 😊

You never fail Dan.. Everytime I watch one of your videos I feel like im in class and always learn something new. Now I have to watch the other videos and take notes :)

If I had you as my automotive electrics teacher I would have saved 4 years on the career ladder !

The cadence to your speaking is like a professional television presenter.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂🙈🙈 take a look at the bloopers

@k1ckyscotland988

4 жыл бұрын

Your English is absolutely perfect Dan,you'd have no problems in England. English people can struggle understanding us,they thought I was Russian or Ukrainian!.

I love watching these videos. I work as a roadside technician and finding out little diagnostic routes really helps out.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Roadside techs are the best! Happy Holidays!

Excellent series! I've just experienced the misfortune of the collapse of my particular skill set in our industry. So, since the industry is progressively leaning towards A.I. w/wheels. Being the lead builder for several transmission shops kinda makes you the default electrical diagnostician Thanks.

Another great vid dan. I am currently doing EV training so any ev videos you do are invaluable. I love the way you go into detail but very simply understandable. Thanks again. Keep em coming.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the training Paul, happy holidays

Dan, you are absolutely the best automotive electrician i have ever watched. Thank you for SHARING your time!!!!

Another First Class video from Dan, I like your steady deliberate delivery, it gives me time to think about the content of your verbal information

Like always, Dan demonstrate us he is loving what he is doing ! Like always, great job! Thank you, Dan! Cheers from Romania!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@jesselyons2002

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Having someone over you. They barely have you do anything

Nice video! I’ve been working on Toyota Prius since the beginning and I would like to add a warning about safety equipment. The gloves are great but I recommend shoes that are EH. ASTM F2413-11 M I/75, C/75, EH compliant. This helps your feet from becoming a path to ground. Obviously check your shoes for holes or contamination and of course make sure your work area is free from any water hazard and oil/grease. Great video and I think that EV’s are easier to work on than with gas engines!

@peterlast3200

4 жыл бұрын

are rubber thongs EH. ASTM F2413-11 M I/75, C/75, EH compliant.

@dazaspc

4 жыл бұрын

Paul I think you might be a bit lost in your thoughts. If you are in the charging circuit whilst the mains are connected then definitely worry about things like shoes.. I work with real high voltage 11kv and that does have the ability to jump gaps and find earths due to the earth being part of the circuit. However the voltages present in automotive batteries wouldn't require anything more than standard industrial work boots. The gloves and insulated tools are there to protect the battery as much as the service guy. Close quarters bus bars that are very high current capable when shorted are the danger but just touching a single terminal of even an 500 volt circuit is fine as long as you are clear of the other side of the circuit and it doesn't include a ground plane you are in contact with. Unless you are wet or sweaty you will rarely notice anything under 150 volts even if you do make a circuit {I wouldn't recommend this as it varies a lot on skin moisture ans your salt content}. But if you have wet hands or have been in salt water even a 12 volt battery can give you a significant jolt and being DC you don't release your grip. Imagine if you were a welder they use open circuit high voltage all the time yet things like earth clamps are not insulated. Stingers on an arc welder can have over 130 volts ac or dc and you can load and use these safely due to the fact that their circuit doesn't use the earth. Shorting the battery is the danger with Automotive EV systems. As for mains being connected any sparky will tell you that you never work on mains unless isolated. Fault find probing only. Even then your charging connector Should be protected on the mains side by a circuit breaker that monitors current to earth and if it goes above 15ma should cut out. This jolt is no worse than a spark lighter and considerably quicker.

@Mytwistedvoices

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Fix doesn't use gloves. Put "Chris Fix Prius" in your search bar.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

The battery uses a "floathing" circuit. This means the battery is not connected to the real Earth, unlike factory and home installations. This means for the risk of getting shocked there is no difference wether you wear shoes or are on bear feet. These rules are still based upon old industrial rules made in the past. To get shocked you would have to touch both the positive and negative terminal and complete the circuit. Unless your planning on working on the high voltage components with your feet that is😂. Do wear normal safety shoes because these batteries are heavy!

@paullatham3411

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you all for commenting on my post and I guess I’m thinking more about best practices for safety as we are dealing with some high voltages. It’s interesting to note that when Toyota introduced the Prius Toyota sent a *safety kit* for shop use that included a rubberized mat for EV repair. It also included that fence barrier that Dan had in his video which is what made me think of it. Another thing to think about is that the manufacturers are upping the voltages for these systems what with Ford introducing the 800 volt systems in 2023. Developing best practices indeed!

Your videos give me confidence in what I'm doing when helping my friends, family and neighbors work on their cars

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Work safe and Happy Holidays

Another fantastically detailed video. Not only making it easy to follow but covering all safety aspects to ensure the person doing the job is kept safe too.

Good job 👏🏻. We need more videos about hybrids 👏🏻 thump up

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thumbs up

I think it's great to see more EV-related content on KZread. My Golf GTE was quarantined for a long time because of a ground fault. In the end the entire battery pack was swapped (yay!). But my garage wasn't all too willing to share technical information with me, even though i told them i'm not the average joe when it comes to electronics. ;) This is a whole new segment of automotive content and i'm looking forward to seeing more!! Great fix, Dan!! \o/

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! If more people feel the same as you we could do more!

@dagit11

4 жыл бұрын

I second devttyUSB0. There is to much mysteria which the dealers are trying to convey to the public in regards to EV's an Hybrid EV's. There is a huge need for you and your comunity, that are able to break down and de-mystify this.

@johnfountain8143

4 жыл бұрын

The most likely is they did not know or have anything to share with you... the number of time i go to a dealer and fix ar car for them is huge !!!!

I would never thougth how entertaining could be to watch someone working until I saw your videos. Good job

I'm likely stating the obvious but your approach to this channel is a refreshing. Its rare that individuals as competent as you are will offer their knowledge and experience to the public. Great work!

Love your vids, really professionally presented and incredibly informative.

Enjoy all ur videos.......thanx for breaking things down for everyone...

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Chris, happy holidays

Beautiful diagnosis and repair!! 😊 Thank you for showing your process!

So much complexity in hybrid cars. How could anything go wrong? Nice work Doctor Dan!

Thanks so much for your efforts, really you are an excellent Teacher and Trainer. Keep up the best work

@tonyyates3188

3 жыл бұрын

Your videos and instruction are put to the ordinary person extremely useful

Started my hv training with volkswagen. Cant wait. Great info!

Thank you Dan ... Ive been working on cars most of my life and enjoy it immensely.. however have never touched electrical ,since I have always found it aggravating... thank you for the amazing videos and explanations... the way u explain and present the issues have now given me confidence and interest to start pursuing some electrical issues myself :-)

Great explanation of the systems, diagrams and such...but most importantly, the need to remind everyone about the dangers of high voltage systems. Thanks Dan...keep it up!

As usual, an excellent diagnosis and repair Dr. Dan. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays

Well organized and academic work 👍🏻

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much and Happy Holidays

I've recently retired, but I can't seem to stop learning. ALL my equipment in at home now and I've purchased a Quick-Jack. I'm still "DAD's GARAGE" to eight (8) family vehicles, one of which is a 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid. This video has shown me, I can still do this. My son says he'll help purchase the high-voltage safety items and insulated tools when the time comes... We'll see. Thank you for your videos. Your thought process is similar to mine... well thought out and explained. I look forward to seeing what's next.

Finally good content on Hybrid vehicles! I am still surprised how long this field of automotive repairs has been neglected by automotive content creators.

I trust your work Dan . Pushed the like Button before watching the video 🌟

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks😜👍

@jumpinjojo

4 жыл бұрын

The Prince Button*

@Muneermohsen

4 жыл бұрын

Just like what I did 😁

As usual you did a great job 👍🏻 Thanks 😊

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yet another well made, thorough and detailed video. Admire your tech skills, as well as your teaching abilities. Really enjoy watching your work.

Thanks, 50 years in the trade glad to see a well groomed professional.

The dealer would of replaced everything except the fuel.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@moestrei

4 жыл бұрын

Es la verdad, Rafa, exepto el combustible. (Practicing my Spanish here).

Great video as usual, super interesting. 33k km on the clock and the battery pack needs cracking open already, wow 🙄 I know two people that have owned this car and had nothing but problems with them. I'd only consider a Japanese hybrid as they aren't likely to bankrupt you when the warranty runs out 😂 Funny that not even the dealers can open the battery pack!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

To be honest they are very reliable, first time i replaced a sensor in the pack

@leexgx

4 жыл бұрын

One video on KZread doesn't make every eV car unreliable (this is the only time I have heard of something like this failing as its a low voltage component not somthing that would typically fail) it good that you could change the sensor thought if it was anything els that might of been problematic to fix

Hi Dan, Dan here also. Thank you for your awesome videos very informative.I have been a technician/mechanic for 20 years and am currently completing an auto electrical apprenticeship. Cheers from Australia.

Excellent video Dan, great work. I don't often get close to a hybrid vehicle at work. Always a pleasure to watch.

''Too many testicles''. Thats what i also say when i mess up!

@apostolismitsopoulos3593

4 жыл бұрын

Χαχαχα!!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha i don't know where that came from🤔.......😂😂

I think it would be good if the car manufacturers are looking at this video. Having to drop the battery of the vehicle to change the current sensor doesn't seems to be the best design. It would be nice that the common circuitry like the breakers, current sensors, AC fan and compressor to be serviceable without removing the battery, instead they could add service trays.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Mitsubishi doesn't allow you to service/open the battery. They even don't supply parts

@paulchilders9969

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diagnosedan At least it's not Apple levels of "not allowed". If that were the case, the only way to get the battery open would be to destroy it.

@DavidPruitt

4 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming this is for safety reasons. Most Li-Ion batteries have the fault detection and the current cut electronics inside the battery so that even if the battery is disconnected from power the safety precautions are still in place. Shorted or damaged Li-Ion battery is no fun. The probably don't wanna mess with the liability.

Another excellent video showing great diagnostic procedures, concise explanation, good working practices. Keep up the good work Dan 👍🏻

Oh my gosh, that was very interesting taking the battery pack out. I appreciate you doing this video! Thank you. Dale C.

I wondered where my testicles had went.. must have sent them to you by mistake Dan! Lol Another great informative video.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha i have no idea where that came from😂😂

I'm surprised the sensor is easy available at Mitsubishi and you could buy it instead of replacing whole battery pack :)

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Its not, i had to use some Magic to get my hands on one

Hi Dan, a very clear and methodical approach to troubleshooting and diagnosing a faulty battery current sensor in a Hybrid vehicle that is not charging.

Paul sent me! Great trouble shoot and reminder of the danger of working with new tech we may not be as familiar with!!

I have worked on a few High Voltage cars and I use a large 1/2 thick rubber mat to stand on as well as using line pole workers gloves you can never be to safe with this much power i have Buddy that works for the Electric company and he has seen guys blasted by lines 2 feet away it will jump to you if your grounded. 😳😳😳

@dagit11

4 жыл бұрын

Whenever I use the rubber gloves, I always use them inside a leather glove as the rubber breaks really easily.

@toshayonguard4253

4 жыл бұрын

So true i replace mine every year regardless the amount of use.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

There is no need to stand on a rubber mat. The battery is not connected to the Earth ground so the floor will never complete the circuit. In industrial or home electric installations this is different. The only way you can get shocked from the battery is to touch both the positive and the negative terminals at the same time.

@leexgx

4 жыл бұрын

Yep the issue is not really been electrocuted as much I be more worried about ark flash (the only place you can do that is the relay witch connects the battery to the car main HV system or messing with the cables on the relay as they are very hot and will kill you), unless you use a flathead screwdriver the battery it self is safe even with the top cover off, all terminals are covered on the battery's to physically touched the battery you need to take the plastic covers off and touch them or touch the HV relay terminals to get a death shock

@toshayonguard4253

4 жыл бұрын

Well an instructor that was teaching a hybrid school taught us this in his class because having the car on a lift can cause a ground path to the floor you are standing on so he taught us better to be safe than Dead.

Why is it we diagnose it together but Dan takes all the credit when its fixed? Seriously though another get video.

@strateshooter1402

3 жыл бұрын

it really was get .

Well, I'm usually only interested in 50+ years old land rovers w/o any digital fancy pants, but accidentially got caught in your channel. It is really enjoying to watch your diagnoses!

Hi Dan. We have an electric bus in our fleet. This will definitely come in handy. Thanks for teaching diagnostics so well. Great video.

Shocking that at 33K kms a car should need to be dismantled to change a sensor.

@Michael-uo4jj

4 жыл бұрын

It's been sitting it's atleast 4years old I don't know why they didn't go to dealership it's still under warranty

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-uo4jj we used to be a dealership up to 2017 and no waranty.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but at least it made a great video

@thmawhirt

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diagnosedan Indeed and along with your others on hybrid make a great resource for those starting into repairing them safely and economically. Keeping the shocks electrical and economical at low voltage!

@therealtze

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same thing. My Outlander model 2007 did 157 000km with only a turbo pipe disconnecting due to a bad clamp and the window not closing.

Disclaimer! When you want to repair a car, make sure you're qualified for that;)

Hello... I've been following with your teaching for a really long time... I seen almost all of your videos and so far, it's been the most educative thing I've seen on the internet my whole life. Because of you I'm currently studying to become a hybrid technician. It would really be an honor and would mean the world to me if I can get a diagnostic kit from you. You're the best.

I like how you take your time and check all avenues to make sure you are getting the issue fixed

I wonder if the dealer would have replaced the whole battery pack?

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Mitsubishi dealerships are not allowed to open battery packs. You would have to ship the battery to a special repair center, and they supply you with a refurbished or new one. We were a Mitsubishi dealerships up to 2017

@osc1968

4 жыл бұрын

That is a good question but i think they would have change the entire battery pack

@thejoneseys

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diagnosedan yikes 😳

@mekanchapykov2102

4 жыл бұрын

Nice & accurate explanations Dan, thanx for all your videos!!!👍👍👍👍

@jeffshearer5125

4 жыл бұрын

That would suck!

A small sensor kills a huge car... wtf... will there ever be a car in the future again NOT built out of garbage and lasting 10 years?

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Building cars from garbage is actually a great idea!😜

@IsmailKhan-kx8up

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diagnosedan 🤪

@darinp5612

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diagnosedan Chrysler's been doing it for 20 years

@ismarmeskovic

4 жыл бұрын

​@@darinp5612 loooool ;D

@MV60

4 жыл бұрын

Oh c'mon man, I can easily also say crank sensor. It's an even simpler sensor it is just a magnet really and it also stops the car from running.

A fascinating insight into EVs and some of their problems, thank you.

Dan, I love the way you teach very easy to understand & entertaining at the same time..

Hi Dan. Ever since I discovered your KZread channel, I am fascinated by your work and your way of explaining things. You're much better than a teacher and I don't think there's anyone who can do things better than you. I would love to have the chance to work with you, to learn at least part of what you know. From me you have all the respect. "Down the hat", as it is said in my country. Happy holidays with loved ones and the year 2020 to come with many joys and achievements. With respect, your fan, Julian

Hi Dan. Great video . I've never worked on this type of vehicle...but you really explained things so well that I believe that by following safe procedures it looks doable. Enjoy your channel. Thanks, Bob

Hi Dan, I have attended two Hybrid training courses. I have learnt more from your Hybrid videos then the two courses put together. Thank you. Merry Xmas.

Dan and Steve from simply diagnostic are real top noch technicians. My heros!!!!

I used to work in an auto electric shop but have been out of the trade for a while. Watching Dan makes me want to start over.

Great videos, Dan, love to see this content on high voltage hybrid/EV vehicles!

Just found you and i`m gonna have a long time watching your videos to learn more about the cars.Thank you.

HI DAN,,,I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR WAY OF WORKING AND MOST IMPOTTANTLY YOU DO NOT GIVE UP THE USE OF SAFETY AND SPECIFIC TOOLS AND ACCESSORIES NO MATTER IF IT HYBRID OR NOT WHIL EXPLANING AND SOLING THE PROBLEM YOU ARE FINALLY EDUCTION WHO KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH VEHICLE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS AND MALFUNCTION WITH THE TANGIBLE EXAMPLES YOU PROVIDE AND USING THE SAME SPECIFIC TOOLS CORRECTLY .THANK YOU ,NOAM HAZOR ISRAEL

Great work dan,you've done it again.Quiet informative and precise. Love your training and expertise. God Bless and stay safe.

Fantastic video as always Dan. Keep the EV & Hybrid content coming please, as you say, there is very little good stuff out there at the moment. As an industry we need to move with the technology otherwise we will be left behind. You are showing that with the correct training, equipment and applying the procedures that these systems are no more complex than any other ECU controlled system on a conventional vehicle. Keep up the great work 👍🏻 (all the best with the FB group as well) Cheers

Always nice to watch your videos and tutorials on diagnostics/troubleshooting/fault finding and all the best for you and your family and business for the new year - God's blessings and protection...

Its always good to watch your vids, as you go into more detail than whats possible at my college

I'm a qualified Electrical Engineer but I have a Mitsubishi outlander with a battery fault so I am enjoying this video as it is very informative

You do a great job wish we had more people like you that could take the time to explain thing. I really appreciate your help and time you put into your work and the things you do to help others understand God bless and please always be safe.

Your way of explaining is beyond any other, you really make us tecky on edge and staying up to watch all your stuff,, happy new year

just getting into diagnostics at my shop, love your channel learning something with every video i watch,thanks!

Dan you have been a great encouragement for me as I try to do more of my own car repairs. Thank you!

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Robin, happy holidays

Great work Dan! Glad you are here in youtube!

High Dan love your channel and your great car fixes and professional way you diagnose .

Great seeing you again Dan!!! Awesome video!

I am BMW/I’m I trained to level 4 and appreciate your attention to detail as regards to safety. Very interesting video thanks.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

We could use an experienced BMW tech in the Facebook group Harold! Happy Holidays!😊🎄

@harold6863

4 жыл бұрын

DiagnoseDan happy Holidays Dan. I love your videos. I am a Mater Technician with 45 years experience but still pick up great tips from your videos. Respect to you Dan. Unfortunately I am not a fan of Facebook lol.

You are one smart fellow/tech. I recently viewed one of your videos and I'm hooked! Being a retired service tech, your skill sets are spot on, ever consider becoming an engineer? Your professionalism is awesome, thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Your videos are always great to watch and very educational. I'll probably never work on an electric vehicle, but you never know!

Really well done. I had a little trouble with following the two Can-bus wires from the current sensor.

Rite on with your testing and repair Dan.Best of the Holliday's to you 👍

Oh how I would love to win that diagnostic tool!! Great channel. Enjoy watching your informative episodes.

@Diagnosedan

4 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the givaway and Happy Holidays

Am a phev technician in kenya nairobi thanks for your education bro keep up.

The more I watch, the simpler vehicle electronics becomes. That;s not to say I understand it too much yet, but I certainly have a better idea of what a garage might look into when investigating issues (although I can't imagine many would be so thorough as you, Dan!)