Humanocracy - (Michele Zanini in Conversation with Sohrab Salimi)

In this interview, we speak with Michele Zanini, co-founder of the Management Lab and co-author of Humanocracy, about
- Conventional Wisdom on Leadership
- What works in terms of Leadership
- The human side of Leadership
If you want to jump to the Key Messages in this video, take a look below:
5:43 To me a leader is someone who catalyzes positive change in an organization… someone who sees opportunities that others don’t…
someone who is able to mobilize resources across the company to meet a challenge… someone who is highly respected for their contribution…
8:30 Everyone can be a leader, but those that are at the top must be a leader
9:05 There is no reason why a 20.000 people company needs to have 7-8 layers of management
10:13 The question is how do you build that hierarchy… and we think it needs to be build bottom-up as opposed to top-down
14:50 Leadership is less about positional power, it’s more about relational power
16:45 But we need to distinguish between time-to-decision and time-to-impact
19:40 What doesn’t work is to focus on individual traits and characteristics of leaders
22:30 The evidence is that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on leadership development … and it doesn’t work
28:20 That’s insane… you are basically telling 80% of the company don’t think strategically… it’s insane!
29:30 The organizational operating system that runs most of our organization is built on a set of principles that might have made sense a 150 years ago but no longer make sense today
33:25 The job of the people in positional power is to multiply… leaders create more leaders
34:20 You have to make those kinds of demanding changes to the organization if you want to hope for something different than the status quo
37:48 We would argue that there is a moral imperative to treat people better at work and allow each person to flourish and be the best they can be in the workplace
40:22 You need to be human so that people can kind of maximize their contribution
41:19 The management model - we would argue - is the fundamental driver of organizational capability … it’s upstream from the business model
48:00 To me the whole company should be a laboratory for innovation
Learn more about Humanocracy at www.humanocracy.com/ and find Michele on Linkedin at / michelezanini
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