Lord bless Dr. Ross and his family..

I just found Mr. Ross I can’t believe KZread has hidden this man from me for so long. He has phew… saved my faith is an understatement. My comment however was I thought the other 2 men were atheists for a minute and I just looked at their faces and it dawned on me they were Christians. Just from their demeanor. It amazes me this beams through almost every person. You can just tell. It’s beautiful.

@Bibledingers

3 ай бұрын

Yep, all Christians. We’ve done several videos with Dr. Ross at this point. Check them out!

I love Dr. Hugh Ross. Thank you for having him as a guest. God's Word is perfect. Man's interpretations and translations are not.

@johnharrison6745

Жыл бұрын

Same. 👍

@rajsahota5524

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. Then why does Hugh Ross twist God's Word to say what it doesn't say? Hugh Ross believes God used big bang evolution and millions of years to create the world. God says he made it in 6 solar days. Scripture interprets Scripture.

@pete8299

3 ай бұрын

​@@rajsahota5524young earthers do the same thing twist scriptures and try and jam it in their tiny YE box interpolation.

Last I checked the articles of the international counsel of biblical hermeneutics wasn't scripture either.

Notice Erics reasoning .if it doesn’t make sense to him then it can’t be true.If science disagrees with my interpretation it can’t be true

We can't use the Book of Nature because it's cursed?? The Bible tells us to use it in Psalm 19. Look at Psalm 65, does that sound like God cursed all of nature as Eric says?? It says "...cursed is the ground FOR YOUR SAKE, in sorrow (toil) shall you eat of it all the days of your life." Genesis 3:17. In other words, you now have to toil and sweat to cultivate the soil to make the crops grow. "The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof." Psalm 24:1. God don't curse what's His own.

@jamespenny9482

9 ай бұрын

Amen!

@Vladimire69

Ай бұрын

Galatians 1:8-9 KJV "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." If you decide, or anyone decides, to use any other book, including this Book of Nature, as gospel, then I use the Bible itself to say you, or anyone using it, is accursed. This is not my words, but the Word of the Lord.

I can't help but notice that it's Eric Hovind and Ken Ham, etc who come across as condescending and dismissive. Dr Ross sat there humbly through all of that and, like Jesus, didn't say nary a word.

@RB-sz9gv

9 ай бұрын

None of that matters only the word of God matters, and there is a six day creation. No getting around it no matter how hard you try. Evolutionism is a religion debunked easily by science.

@jamespenny9482

9 ай бұрын

@@RB-sz9gv I don't believe in evolution and neither does Dr Ross. We believe in miraculous, sudden creation and the Cambrian Explosion (CE) bears that out. But the CE happened over 500 million years ago, not 6,000.

@pete8299

3 ай бұрын

​@@RB-sz9gvactions matter more if you ask me. And except it isn't easily debunked....

@jeffmcdonald9073

3 ай бұрын

​@@RB-sz9gvthere is no logical reason that God didn't design evolution into the creation of the universe. The world and everything God created is far more wonderous than either camp can see

@nude_cat_ellie7417

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. I did not appreciate his tone at all.

Dr. Hugh Ross in the house 🙂

No chance there's millions and billions of years ago. ✝️

the evening and the morning where the first day, how can that be interpreted as a long period of time? how is evening and morning being interpreted ?

@written12

Ай бұрын

My question, too

Good job by Mr Hovind in explaining the meaning of a “ day” not “ in the days of”

Scripture support Scripture as our reality reflects Scripture. The book of Genesis chapter one are literally 24-hour Days. And chapter 2 is the highlights of creation pertaining too Gen. 1. Or to say, the unspoken details of chapter One. Saying the days of creation are not 24 hour periods, is not Spirit Led. It's a carnal perspective. God is not a lier. He gave the physical recipe for creation in chapters 1&2.

@gerardmoloney433

Ай бұрын

@samuela wilsoner. We must be very careful making accusations. Saying the days of creation are not 24 hours is not Spirit lead is in direct contradiction to the Word of God? "A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day " Nowhere in the Bible does is state a day is 24 hours. Time is relative and Einstein proved that. The solar system wasn't established until day four of creation and even then a day wasn't 24 hours on earth. There are many planets right now where a day is not 24 hours. The Bible makes it very clear that time is relative. A day is like a thousand years not 24 hours. Don't add to or subtract from the Word of God. Be careful what you say. Maranatha

Romans 1:20 For from the creation of the world the invisible things of Him are clearly seen, being understood through the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.

Where’s the continuation to this video. This is just an introduction to the two points of view. I went to your channel, and did not see any subsequent videos on this.

@Bibledingers

Жыл бұрын

This is the full interview kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJ-ksMF8XdC4lc4.html

@ydecimos

Жыл бұрын

@@Bibledingers Thanks!

People really don't know how old the earth is for Adam wasn't born, he was created as a grown man of age, that lived a long life

Eric kept on saying "nature is fallen" therefore it cannot be trusted whereby implying that nature can lie. What an idiotic statement! Yet whenever people like him debate an atheist I bet that they will also get some of their evidence from nature. It is our interpretation of nature as well as Scriptures that might be wrong sometimes but never the Book of Nature and the Book of Scriptures.

I don't like how Dr. Ross would talk and then Eric would talk and it's the end of the video. There should be more content to this discussion. Am I missing something here?

@Bibledingers

Күн бұрын

Yes! This is just a clip from the full debate which is on our channel.

I don't understand how believers that limit the age of the earth as starting at the time when Adam and Eve were created, can reconcile the fact that 1) clearly angels were created before man's creation (Job 38:7), as angels are seen rejoicing when God was laying it's foundations-- and 2) that Satan, before his fall, is seen in Ezekiel 28:13-19 inhabiting a "mineral type earth" particularly in Eden past. The topography of this ancient "earth" and "Edenic garden" - is different than ours -- for Satan dwells amongst the most beautiful of gemstones --the same gems that we know are mined from underneath our vegetative earth Gen. 1. Clearly there were inhabitants existing at one time on the same earth core --- but before God judged Satan and ex-nihilo, "re-created" the Earth's topography for man. It fits with the fact that in Gen. 1 the curtain opens on a dark, seemingly prior-judged earth that God then re-creates into the world we now inhabit. It matches the fact that the Garden of Eden"s Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was already there before man, warning him later not to follow Satan's ways and take God's leadership lightly.

hey Eric buddy, did you know that Hipparchus didnt work out the 24 hour day? It wasn't even put into practice untill about 147 to 127 BC! So isn't Genesis, the creation before that??????????

@russellnentwich8745

3 ай бұрын

So you are aware that Genesis was written by Moses and that he would have understood a day ending at sunset? We know this because the Jews actually get the 7 day week, the sabbath being a day of rest and the new day beginning after sunset from the creation story. If later on someone breaks it into hours or says the one rotation of the earth on it axis, it’s still the same time span.

The biggest question is, who has the final authority on what Genesis 1 says, Hugh Ross, Eric Hovind or God?

This was an incredible debate between Eric Hovind and John Malkovich.

@Bibledingers

8 ай бұрын

U r trippin

@MapleBar777

8 ай бұрын

@@Bibledingers Lol I couldn't help myself 🤣

There is one book, the Bible. There is no inerrant book of nature.

@DavidNicholson101

2 ай бұрын

Yeah that set red flags off right there.

Eric talks about a bias …but happens to have the exact same view as his dad lol . Also he reads so much into scripture. All the times he mentions word “Yom” is in the Bible? Someone would have to strictly calculate that out to determine the assumption 24hrs…Some one like my grandmother with very strong faith doesn’t understand a lot of deeper theological takes and would never be able to “clearly” see young earth. You may have a view Eric, it might even be a decent one, but to act like it’s “exact” “absolute” ….”clear in scripture” is highly skeptical. Eric and his dad can never be wrong in any debate I’ve witnessed they also cast judgement on others and poke at the strength of peoples faith. Eric did with IP badly. “Your righteousness is to exceed the Pharisees” , you can have views and be humble and think provisionally. I think it’s safe to say its okay not to fully understand how God did everything, and we don’t have to cram contemporary science into every passage.

And the rest of the debate?

@Bibledingers

Ай бұрын

It’s on our channel :)

You cut the video before there was a response from Ross.

@Bibledingers

7 ай бұрын

You can view the entire video on our channel. This is just a clip.

Romans 1:20

Why was there no response from Hugh Ross? Thats how debates work! Very disappointed 😥

@Bibledingers

Ай бұрын

This is only a clip from the full debate which you can find on our channel :)

So, my question for Dr. Ross is how long are the days?

@kanglinyao

5 ай бұрын

I guess days are as long as what sciences say.

@pete8299

3 ай бұрын

First off The are no days without a sun. Secondly the morning and evening occur at different times depending on where you are on the earth. Thirdly if there is no universe or anything in position that relatea to earth it isn't spinning. I guess just a few more reasons that those days aren't literal 24hours.

@emach07

3 ай бұрын

I'm a little rusty on this stuff but I thought I heard him quote 2 Peter 3:8 regarding that a few years ago.

I would love to speak to u Mr. Hovínd. Rev. Samuel A Wilson Sr.

Context yes!!!. So put all of genesis in the context that all the sciences real about the age of the universe.

⁰ God called the light day God did not call the darkness the day/

@ermasale4618

3 ай бұрын

6 segments of light /ⁿ⁹ God called the light day

Ross should be in jail right now

Young Christian here. Imperfect as they come. Why does the Hovind fella come across so Pharisee- like?

I was hoping to hear a logical debate but instead all I heard was Hugh Ross explain his view and Eric Hovind just talk negatively about Ross, his faith and how he came to faith. Not cool Hovind! 😑

This is surreal watching grown men arguing over something a child would dismiss. Genesis is a poem. You don't take poems literally.

@persona5305

10 ай бұрын

So ahmmnn you happened to be the one that is qualified judge that the bible shouldn't be taken literally? you know you guys really cherry pick everything.. u pick one bible verse to support your argument the literal way and then those than can easily repute by non-believers will now be explained as metaphorical way. the fact that christianity is very much divided is also something to look into..

@jamemule5326

9 ай бұрын

You are just a salty evolutionists

Book of nature, doesn't say anything. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Dr. Ross is right!

Sorry Eric , the fact that this video ends before Ross has a chance to respond to your diatribe shows something about this channel . You show hostility , Eric , and you are wrong ! I became a Christian watching The Way at a Chuck Smith tent service at 13 years old . My parents were both PHD english teachers and reading Genesis carefully in plain english made me almost loose my faith ! Think about it , The way it is written if you take the days as 24 hour days it makes no sense !I am so glad that Ross gave me a way of looking at the Genesis 1 scriptures in perspective , Like God moving on the waters and how light could come in after the creation of the sun . I see you yelling and screaming in your rebuttal in this debate which is not really a debate because you cut Ross off after your self righteous rant in a very unpleasing tone . Think about this ; Time is nothing to God , a quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion light years times a quadrillion quadrillion more are not even a nanosecond to God ! Why get so hostile about something that does not really matter ?

@Bibledingers

Жыл бұрын

Enid, this is just a clip from the entire unedited interview. You can find the full two and a half hour video on our KZread.

@johnharrison6745

Жыл бұрын

Frankly, Young Earth creationists are sick-in-the-l-lead. And, it was primarily a guy who holds a doctorate in applied physics from Stanford, has an I.Q. of 142, and, has had a career for which most other scientists would give their left-arm and right-leg, who mentored me out of my ATHEISM. He's a DEVOTED, CONVINCED Christian (as is his equally impressive astrophysicist wife) who's read the 'Bible' about 18 times.

@persona5305

10 ай бұрын

what an epitome of a believer's mindset😂 draw it's own conclusion without checking any further before judging the channel.

Romans says all men are without excuse even if they dont have a Bible because they have nature

@jonathanandjuliannahanson604

Жыл бұрын

That is not the point of what Romans is even talking about. Romans 1 and 2 are discussing the reality of the conscience. You need to go back and read it again, in its full context.

Ross should be accountable for all the lies

@YurLord

11 күн бұрын

What lies are you referring to and how do you want him held accountable?

Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap for angels. Only one Gospel: The Gospel of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.

God's day is 1000 of our years. Our day is 24 hours.

I “Like” Dr. Ross. He is very kind and gracious & I am sure he is very genuine as well. He has an uncommon ability to discuss & debate in a way that is also kind, generous, patient and humble. That is hard to do when in a debate or discussion such as this. So, good for him with all that - but I still he is wrong. The way I see this issue …. 1. There is plenty of scientific evidence that appears to support old earth creation. 2. There is also plenty of scientific evidence that supports young earth creation. 3. There are credible & accredited PHD’s on both sides. So that leaves me with just two points to consider …. 4. What does my own mind and my own experiences tell me. 5. And finally & most Importantly…. What does the Bible say about this. After considering all of that, it would seem to me that the young earth view is the correct view.

@Logosguy-fv1bj

6 күн бұрын

Just a comment to try to keep you from settling with this framework. Points 1. & 2. What examples do you have of each? and how have you reconciled seemingly contradictory scientific evidence? And which one handles the others evidence better? A YT comment probably doesn't have enough space to really answer it, but just curious.

@redeemedadventures

6 күн бұрын

@@Logosguy-fv1bj I don’t want to get into a long debate on YT comments. Regarding examples of points # 1 & 2. They are out there. I know each side can generally offer ways to deal with them to try to answer each sides evidences. Sometimes I can’t reconcile the OE view in a particular point. As an example, the issue of naming the animals & Eve as a help mate… I must admit I find that particular point very hard to deal with as a young earther.

@Logosguy-fv1bj

5 күн бұрын

@@redeemedadventures fair! Lord bless!

I think Genesis 2:4 makes it very clear that the "Days" of creation are supposed to be read as " GENERATIONS " eras , long period of time ! PERIOD !!!! And to boot the physical evidence is there!

Oh God no - not another Hovind…

The tribulation is 7 days

Eric Hovind is correct

Ross is a heretic

Ok but no rebuttals?