I have my own theory So you know how Miles tried saving his dad's party by getting two cakes instead of one but when he tried managing two at once it went to a complete fail That foreshadows he can choose one option to either save his dad or the Multiverse unless you got two Miles So 1610 Miles and 42 Miles will team up in the sequel to save both 1610 Jeff and the entire multiverse.

@trrixstalize

11 ай бұрын

thats actually a good theory

@noobtube1323

11 ай бұрын

Didn't he promise to rio that he would "bake a cake and eat it too"?

@Sage0130

11 ай бұрын

"You can't have your cake and eat it too." - Guidance counselor. "Unless you get two cakes." - Miles

@jc_art_

11 ай бұрын

But another part of that scene is that miles does get two cakes, but they both end up getting ruined, either foreshadowing that getting two miles' wont save anything and itll still break, or be an opportunity to show miles has grown in some way since the first 'two cakes' scene, and is now able to both have his cake and eat it too. Also disregarding my reply before this, i like your theory, and i feel like i shouldve thought of this and i feel a little dumb for not realizing the whole two cakes thing mightve been used for something bigger later on lol

@Sage0130

11 ай бұрын

@@noobtube1323 Rio asked Miles to come back home with a cake.

I already know mans about to spend half the video talking about Gwen lmao 😭 Still hella excited and the Spot is such an interesting character

@kikicampbell7233

11 ай бұрын

He even confessed his crush on Gwen before we even talked about the spot

@SoupMan28

11 ай бұрын

​@@kikicampbell7233literally me

@shanecorcoran2542

11 ай бұрын

I would expect nothing less from him, and I mean this in the best way possible

Miles forgiving Gwen is definitely gonna happen but it’s gonna be kinda a tough road. We already saw how much times Gwen threw Miles under the bus and worst of all, keeping a HUGE secret from him (which is her knowing Miles’ dad is gonna die) and when Miles found out about that and Gwen telling him she didn’t known how to tell him and it was for his own good, his whole world just came crashing down and the amount of betrayal he felt was probably bigger than anything he could imagine. And add on the fact that Gwen was with Peter B Parker, Hobie, Peni and all of them for so long without Miles knowing while at the same time Miles sacrificed so much just to learn inter dimensional science in another state just to see them because he thought he will never see them again even tho they had the futuristic technology to go and see him and they didn’t, Miles had every right in the world to feel betrayed. At that moment Gwen realized f’ed up and that it will take a mountain to finally see Miles. But don’t care. She doesn’t care if Miguel is gonna fight her, if the whole spider society is gonna be against her, if the multiverse is gonna be unstable and if she is risking her life, she is going to f ing war for Miles. She’s willing to travel trillions upon trillions upon trillions of kilometres or miles wtv works out just to save him and see him and she will fight anything and anyone in her way. If it means her hurting herself or dying (which I HOPE TO GOD that doesn’t happen), billions of people going against her, the multiverse going haywire, Miguel exploding in rage cuz of her and fighting her or if they end up together, she is literally going all out for the man she loves and cares for and that’s probably why Beyond the Spider Verse is gonna be the most anticipated movie in the history of the movie industry because (hot take) other than Peter Parker and Miles, she’s gonna cement herself as one of the greatest Spider people to ever exist since Stan Lee created Spiderman because her story and her willing to go to war for Miles makes her the hero everyone needs because her morals, mentality and strength is something we can all learn from and put in our lives, that even tho in your life you’re at such a low point that you feel there’s nothing that’s gonna help you and no good is ever gonna come but if you believe in yourself and believe that anything is possible, which is what Miles taught her, then you’re gonna make an impact that will be for the better no matter what it is. This was pretty long and cringe and I pretty much retold a bunch of the video’s he made but this is something worth talking about, cuz Gwen is a motivator, a mentor, a hero and most importantly, Spiderwoman.

@flamesofchaos13

11 ай бұрын

Gwen won't die nor Jess Drew...Another Animated film about them and Cindy Moon is coming after Beyond. I don't see it being a prequel. So Gwen will live no matter what. Which honestly I never saw her dying as a possibility. But Miguel, Both Miles's, Jeff, Rio, Peter B, Hobie, Pavitr, Noir, Ham, 42 Aaron and the Spot...Those are who I could see dying. I could also see nobody dying because they break the canon and truly figure out a better way. That the story isn't about death or darkness at all but life and brightness about hope and love (in all forms including self-love) above all else. Also I get the love for Gwen...But she isn't going to be the Main Protagonist in Beyond. Because she's going to be the Main Protagonist in Spider-Woman. No it's called Beyond the Spider-Verse for a reason. The first film was 1610 Mile's story and a secondary story about Peter and Peter B, The second film is still Miles story it just also had Gwen's be the secondary story even more tied into the plot...The third film is 100% going to be about 42 Miles Prowler and Miguel O'Hara's actual backstory with 1610 Miles and Gwen's romance/forgiveness being secondary. Spider-Woman will be Gwen's and Silk's story with Jess Drew being the secondary.

@redfire2301

10 ай бұрын

Man typed the whole script

People are terrible at forgiving characters in every fandom. As someone from the halo community, it was crazy watching the whole fanbase turn against Cortana because a bad storyline made her evil. People hated on her so much that the writers killed her offscreen in the next game. It was a disaster.

@bobisuncanny2760

10 ай бұрын

Bro i don't know anything about Halo and i can still feel your pain. It hurts so much seeing a beloved character doing the absolute contrary of what they're supposed to be, just because of Bad Writting. I can relate with the characters of the Sequel Trilogy of Star Wars

@jasmintea8825

9 ай бұрын

It’s also lost of the time female characters too, just a pattern I noticed

@kjj26k

5 ай бұрын

​@@jasmintea8825 That is a very important part of all of this we are supposed to just ignore.

Man, I’m so hyped for BTSV. If it’s anything like the first 2 movies it will EASILY be up there with the greatest movie trilogies ever. Something about just sets it apart from other films. Also, Gwen and Miles better get together at the end of the next movie or else imma lose it 😅

@serpentsir

11 ай бұрын

You and me both!

@MarcusWojcikJr-vm4cs

11 ай бұрын

Me to

@mrbrick858

11 ай бұрын

same

@SpiderMan_N0ir

11 ай бұрын

Lol. They will it’s just the wait that is a pain. Anyone that wants them to get together can agree 😢😂

@Cosmicmorales

11 ай бұрын

Ur not the only one cursed with excitement (hope u get the reference)

I honestly really hope you're right about the spot having a redemption arch, the spot is my favorite character in atsv and just one of my favorite characters in general. He doesn't seem like an actual villain or someone who has any actual evil in him, he's just a guy who got hurt unfairly and is understandably taking it out, like the man lost his family and his job. I think that beginning scene with the spot robbing the store wasn't to set him up as a "villain of the weak/week" I think it was to show how he isn't actually bad as a person, especially when he says "please just let me rob you" then goes on to explain why he has to rob the ATM. I don't think a person who's actually evil would say "please" during a robbery, or ask him to not make this a bad first experience for him. I feel that if everyone stopped trying to fight him and just talk before he made another collider they may have been able to stop him then and there, but I think it'll be a bit harder now after everyone showing how they don't take him seriously and he's grown more powerful. It'll probably take a really emotional speech or something like that to get him to stop, I think he's just a guy who needs someone to listen to him.

@majungabunga

10 ай бұрын

They are gonna turn spot white again so he cant say the N word and the multiverse will be saved

In order for Spot to be forgiven, there's one piece of information we need: what happened to the other universes he traveled to when he was getting stronger. He didn't just go to Mumbattan, he went to several other universes that had Alchemax colliders, and we don't know the status of these other Earths. If what happened in India is any indication, Spot has likely left a significant trail of destruction in his wake, and he seems to display no remorse for any of it. If they've been destroyed, then there's no plausible way for the Spot to have any kind of forgiveness and redemption arc. I do like your analysis about how this could break the "comic code approval" that these movies seem to have, but it wouldn't work play well if Spot has blood on his hands.

@silasmovies

11 ай бұрын

Im not reading a esay

@silasmovies

11 ай бұрын

I read it

@Sage0130

11 ай бұрын

@@silasmovies Thoughts?

@everythinggirly916

10 ай бұрын

My theory is that he is responsible for the destruction of the universe Miguel was in, because he can travel both through space and time.

@flamesofchaos13

10 ай бұрын

@@everythinggirly916 Multiversal Travel is Time Travel. Every reality is in a different time...From billions of years of difference to milliseconds. But either way it's different. Then yes the Past, Present and Future co-exist...Time is Relative and Broken (literally in Loki).

Btsv has the potential to be the greatest movie I ever seen it’s definitely one of the most anticipated movies I’ve seen.

I would go with forgiveness. Miles was able to forgive his Uncle Aaron for everything he did. That's what a good majority of these characters need. If Miles can do that for the spot and even Gwen, it would uphold that he is the best of everyone around him. I want to see that Gwen video. She deserves all the love and support. She's a great character. Her connection with Miles is special. I want them to be together. All the buildup and subtle ways they show their feelings (there's a lot!), I'm just invested in how they'll overcome this. Besides, Gwen is fighting for love and isn't gonna let anyone stop her.

@flamesofchaos13

10 ай бұрын

What if Miles is the one stopping her? What if he honestly can't forgive her? It's pretty darn difficult to accept the fact she agreed he was a cosmic mistake (so anything between them logically must be null and void) and his father should die because of an algorithm. Could you forgive her if it was your father and you being labeled a mistake? Negate knowing anything about what she's been through because Miles doesn't know anything about George or Lizard Peter or Gwen's conflicting thoughts or promise to bring him back. All Miles knows is she agreed with the Society on every single point and actively lied to him back in Brooklyn. Also he assumed she was in a relationship with Hobie...Which she didn't in any form even try to deny or explain. So her love for him...Is highly questionable even at the most basic level from his pov.

@hoennchamp374

9 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@flamesofchaos13I disagree with this statement, I understand what you’re saying but I mean people make mistakes all the time, and yes while Gwen did know what was going to happen she said “I didn’t know how to tell you.” Meaning yes while she did hurt Miles she didn’t want to because of how much she loves Miles I mean you see throughout this whole 2 hr and 20 minute movie that she does care deeply for him, and even after you watch the movie once and go back and rewatch it You can tell by her facial expressions and by some of the things she says and does that she is hiding stuff from him because of the knowledge she has from being with the Spider Society and at the end of the movie SHE was the one to make the move to go save Miles because she doesn’t want to lose him. And I know people already brought it up she also said at the beginning “I didn’t want to hurt him, but I did”. I personally wouldn’t want to watch a movie about perfect people because in real life people aren’t perfect and I know this is a movie and not real life but I want my fiction to have some real life human elements because it helps us connect more to the characters and relate to them and still have the fictional elements feel more believable, I mean I guess you are sort of relating to it by saying “How could I ever forgive someone for making a mistake.” I mean there are people in real life who do betray people with the intention to do it, Gwen isn’t that person she literally regrets what she did and now she’s gonna go save him, I mean why would she even bother to go save him if she intentionally wanted to hurt her friend, And what this awesome KZreadr saying the video it’s like yeah maybe canon events don’t exist and Miguel was wrong and it turns out That maybe it was an incursion or something, Idk I personally hope Miles forgives Gwen in the next movie and they give each other a hug and maybe Gwen’s tearing up or something that would tug at my heart I’m so excited for Beyond the Spiderverse.

@flamesofchaos13

9 ай бұрын

​@@hoennchamp374 You're missing my point though. I personally agree with everything you're saying. I ship them. But it's not about us or Gwen's pov. My point was from Miles's pov and what he alone would realistically believe and think. The real problem is Miles himself will be the obstacle the challenge the enemy both versions of him. Main Miles is going to literally snap...It will be way worse than Gwen and Miguel because he has MORE anger MORE hatred MORE distrust than they ever could understand. Miles Prowler will simply see them as threats he might even be 100% right to do so. I can say this as a Miles is my fav Spider Fan...He will forgive her if he doesn't that would be completely out of character. Miles has forgiven worse and equally as bad (literally forgiven being tortured to near-death with the intent to kill and terrorism). Like he already showed at the Spider-Society he'd never harm her...None of their Spidey Senses ever went off he never intended to harm any of them not even Miguel. He doesn't hate or despise her in the slightest...He disagrees with her. However that forgiveness doesn't necessarily mean romance or forgetting about the betrayal (Miles can indeed set aside his emotions for his goal and become ruthlessly unforgiving if pushed to the brink). Also it's possible he never stopped loving her...He just can't rationalize her actions. However I've looked up all the facts...He will not only forgive her he will for one reason or another love her back. It's going to be interesting to see the why and how. We don't have to doubt that's the story they'll tell either Producer: the Entire Trilogy is their Love Story, Directors: "Here we have Miles deciding to follow his Destiny (Gwen) or stay home" and "Here we have Gwen's unique connection to Miles again", Hailee: Between Punk n Gwen or Miles n Gwen...Long Term Gwen x Miles (she literally had a look of it's not obvious?). Keywords there being Long Term...Not easy not short not quick. It won't happen in the early part of Beyond...It'll be late into it maybe even just the ending.

@hoennchamp374

9 ай бұрын

@@flamesofchaos13 Oh no I agree with you there on Miles not forgiving her till like the end or the last hour of the movie depending on how long it is, I want them to save it till near the end cause it’ll be WAAAAAYYYY more satisfying in the long run, if they just forgive each other at the beginning that would disappoint me ngl. And I also agree with you on the fact that I don’t think it’s entirely necessary for them get together Honestly I just want them to Maintain their friendship if anything over anything else and yeah I do agree with you on that too that after what happened in Across it’s going to take a while before Miles can trust his friends again, and His feelings are totally justified, I mean that’s some fucked up shit to hear and then he finds out that not only did his friends know about it but they also never came to see him or even told him even though they had some will I’m not going to say free will cause you know Miguel and Jessica but if I was in Miles shoes I’d definitely feel the same way. I love Miles Morales he is my second favorite Spider-Man, but I also wanna see Gwen redeemed but I want it to feel earned when it happens so save it later in the last movie. I also hope we get a lot more Peter B. Parker in the last movie because oh my god I love him so much! And I love the relationship he has with Miles and I hope Miles and Peter patch things up I know it’s not as bad as the situation with Gwen but I love the Friendship they have together and How much Peter genuinely does Care ALOT about Miles and I can tell just from the way he talks to him, the way he wants to try to help him from being chased (even though he was also chasing him but) he was trying to help Miles through it he literally said he felt bad.

The breaking of the cca is actually a great theory bc most of the time when miles is fighting spot hes trying to talk it out with him, and it also feels like spot was made as likable as possible so it's def a possibility. Great video :)

@jc_art_

11 ай бұрын

Glad to hear you like the breaking cca theory!

@adamboy0559

10 ай бұрын

He isn’t evil either he’s broken. He lost everything. He’s now an outcast in society. His only motivation for becoming the strongest being in the multiverse is because he was fed up of being a joke. He also has had the chance to kill Gwen hobie miles pav yet didn’t. He only wanted to delay them. He isn’t a killer yet

Im here to prevent small children from saying first

@burritoguy5089

11 ай бұрын

Good job

@videohousejsq

11 ай бұрын

You just said it

@XXX_528

11 ай бұрын

Thx

@heystobit-jin8021

11 ай бұрын

Lol thanks 😂

@evansellers5205

11 ай бұрын

You're a hero

Another possibility is that Miguel is right and canon events are real, then miles saves his dad, one of the holes opens up, but the spot is able to stop it and taking himself with it

@sapphiredragon7234

11 ай бұрын

I like the idea of The Spot becoming a hero.

@jc_art_

11 ай бұрын

Well isnt spot made of the same stuff as the (plot)holes now?

@remainderofsturgeonslaw7156

11 ай бұрын

That would also be a nice little nod to how that episode from the 90s Spider-Man show ended where the Spot, and his girlfriend, sacrificed themselves to stop one of stray holes that grew large enough to consume the world and universe

@georgejoestarii9469

11 ай бұрын

Perhaps the canon event that he was talking about is like the Oingo Boingo prophecy in Jojo. The event would eventually happen but some things will change if the timing is right or wrong.

I said this in the live chat already but just wanted to say so others can see, another reason why Gwen and Miles are meant for each other is a simple Easter egg when they're swinging together in earth 1610 (Miles's universe) the shadow on Miles's back is in a shape of a heart of you missed you could probably just search it up but I thought that it was really cute.

Another great theory man! I genuinely think that Miles is gonna try and talk to the Spot since it would fit his arc and the Spot's arc well. I also think it would fit well for the movie if and when Miles forgives Gwen and Peter B. Like the whole movie could be based on forgiveness and apologizing. Keep up the great work man! Also, 0:24 is so relatable.

Running out of holes: Seems a bit unlikely to me, at best I feel it would be anti-climactic and would kind of undermine how dangerous his character is by turning him back into a joke villain. "Whoops, I'm uh. I got a little carried away, haha... no spots. You uh, you wouldn't hit a guy who used to wear glasses, right?" Forgiveness: Same as above. I do like the idea that it breaks the CCA, but I dunno. It feels a little bit TOO cheesy? And personally I'm burnt out on the "redeemable villain" trope that a lot of other studios have been using a bit too often as of late, so it might make the climax feel tired. On the other hand, even if I'm not sure it would work as the final ending to this particular boss fight, I DO think it'd be really neat to go more in-depth on Spot's perspective of his whole body horror experience, to really lay out what exactly his run-in with Miles did to him both mentally and physically. Even if it still ends with him wanting to fight and being defeated from like, not accepting Miles' apology or something, it would be cool to explore. BUT offering to help him turn back human is a neat angle too, whether he forgives during the fight or not! I think that could also tie into a Miguel redemption, since he'd be the only Spider with the technology to actually help Spot in that way. A Third Party: Whether it's plausible or not, I just don't like this option. I feel like it takes agency away from the characters, removes their ability to solve their own problems, deal with their own consequences, fix their own mistakes, learn and grow. It's no fun if Miguel learns the error of his ways because a cosmic god told him the truth- I want to see him realize the truth on his own and be horrified at the facts in front of him, but try to redeem himself anyway, even if he thinks he doesn't deserve it. All in all, forgiveness definitely feels like the best option out of these, even if the message is a bit "everyone gets a happy ending yay!", it can still work well if done in a more complex way (like Spot having some pushback, or having his forgiveness of Miles be tied into other plot points) as well as really leaning into the existential horror that he must have experienced. Something basic like "You hurt my feelings by calling me a villain of the week!" is so unsatisfying, but "Your actions plunged me into an existential crisis, I couldn't look at myself in the mirror for MONTHS and had to give up my family, my friends, my LIFE all because you wanted to play the "hero" without knowing what it means" would be SO raw. Bonus if he does end up turning back human too, because that would be a nice little bow to tie up his story arc!

@spencerreid2086

10 ай бұрын

I kinda feel like if he is redeemed it'd be better if Spot wasn't just turned back to normal but instead made amends with Miles anyway and maybe at the end we see him accepting himself and using his powers for some kind of good either as a super hero or as a scientist. and make amends with his family which could maybe a nice little message about self acceptance rather than just having him be cured and turned back to normal.

i have a prediction: i think the spot will end up starting to destroy the multiverse but then, like you said, he will be convinced to change his side. he would then start to fix the multiverse and will sacrifice himself doing that.

I personally like the idea of Cosmic Spider-man being introduced but with a twist; so in the comics, the enigma force seeks out those that it deems worthy to imbue with its power in order to stop a multiversal threat, and there is precedent for Miles to be imbued with that power. So; we are in the midst of the final battle and we reach the point where Jeff sees the child about to be crushed and starts running towards him; time slows down and Miles looks at Peter B Parker and they have a silent conversation with their eyes. Peter is pretty much conveying that he is gonna try to save the kid and get Mile's dad out of the way. At that moment Mile's goes into himself and he hears a variety of voices in his head; he hears Jeff say to him "I see this spark in you it's amazing" Then he hears Aaron saying "You're the best of all of us Miles" and then he hears Gwen say "what I always think, you're amazing" and then he hears Miguel saying "Being Spider-man is a sacrifice, that's what you signed up for" and then he will hear Rio say "never let anyone at those big fancy places tell him that he doesn't belong there" and at that moment he makes the decision; No one else is going to suffer for him, no one else is going to die because of him, he is going to make the sacrifice because that is what Spiderman does, and so Miles is the one who pushes his father out of the way and saves the child and he ends up getting crushed and dies. Everyone loses their mind, Gwen, Peter B, Rio & Jeff (if they find out that their son is Spiderman at this point) and in the midst of all that chaos his soul will be taken to another plain where he will meet the Enigma Force, it will tell him that he has made a great sacrifice and is now worthy and that he must stop the spot. He comes back, with the powers of a god and we get an epic fight scene that will be worth 4 years of waiting. Now I know the obvious problem, writing the Enigma Force in now really does feel lazy and unearned so I'm hoping they find a way to write it in well; maybe have it introduce the story before Miles G Morales gets his intro? I don't know but I really do like this idea🙂

@BestOneEver247

11 ай бұрын

what roles are each member of the *Web-Warriors* you know Spider-ham, Peni , Noir , Pavitar, Peter B. parker, Hobie, Gwen etc including each members character-arks

I feel like the forgiveness route also works with how Phil Lord and Chris Miller write.

AAAHHH I would really wish for the movie to make the early 2024 release with Beyond the Spiderverse, but on the other hand I‘d rather have another masterpiece like ATSV instead of them rushing the movie… Until then we at least have your great theories and other videos 🌞👍

This was a really nice video. After watching it, I like the option 2. Because I think thats going to be a main theme in the third. Miguel needs to find forgiveness in himself, Gwen needs to try and tell miles she is deeply sorry by showing it with miles finding a part of his heart and love to forgive her and miles needs to reason with spot. I really see this panning out and honestly, I definitely want to see why Gwen is the best character video and predictions for BTSV. I got so much theories that I need to drop on ghostflower and why they will get together at the end of BTSV. But any can’t wait from more spiderverse content.

Cosmic Spider-Man can't use the Enigma Force outside of his home dimension, if he leaves his dimension, he becomes a regular Spider-Man

@serpentsir

11 ай бұрын

Ohh! I wasn't aware of that

@hwk_art2k23

11 ай бұрын

@@serpentsir it's calm Edit: one thing that you, andany other people didn't mention is that Miles did not use his full set of abilities against the Spot or the spider-people. Like one thing Miles is able to do is absorb energy and shoot it back. Perhaps he will be able to absorb Spot's dark matter energy or something.... And his invisibility (or camouflage) is very useful to confuse his opponents

@saltsalted1528

3 ай бұрын

Miles could maybe gain the enigma force in time to save his dad. He would just have to make sure the fight stays in his dimension.

I feel like another way the Spot could be beat is by him becoming too powerful. Like he rips himself apart with his spots.

I think your right he and Spot will end up teaming up to defeat the real big bad of the third film. Armadillo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The spot is probably going to be hard to take down but if anything it’s going to be a tough fight.

@adamboy0559

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think you can physically beat him. He’s no longer able to run out of spots as he now is the spot.

@TevyaSmolka

10 ай бұрын

@@adamboy0559 that’s true and you’re right about that

@adamboy0559

10 ай бұрын

@@TevyaSmolka thing is he isn’t really shown to be evil yet. He’s broken. He lost everything so fast, he was once a well respected scientist and now he’s a laughable guy covered in spots. He could have killed miles Gwen hobie and pav in mumbatan and yet didn’t only got them out his way. Redemption is still possible for him

The Spot's weakness is when his body is out of black spots to teleport.

I also believe Foregiveness might be one of the biggest topic on the next movie, but this movie was about multiverse, so after the forgiveness scene occurs, maybe there will be a chance for spot to use the dimention machine and talk it out with his family and all his relatives and be happy again??? Well if the topic is foregiveness, I think the spot will somehow be happy again.

Here's how I'd piece it all together from your video and how I believe it'd work out in BTSV: First of all, the Web Warriors would need the power of Cosmic Spider-Man to even the odds with the Spot who had grown more powerful. They would need a Cosmic Spider-Man to get up close and personal to the Spot and withstand his bombardment, whatever new abilities the Spot would acquire later. The one who would become Cosmic Spider-Man however, is Miles Morales bc if he's going to reach the Spot, he'd require the means, the power and the heart to do so in order to fulfill the Spot's claim of Miles being his nemesis. As the Cosmic Spider-Man, Miles could got close to the Spot, forcing him to fight Miles head on in a duel and putting him on the defensive. Both would go head-to-head with their powers, attempting to overwhelm one another. Miles would also be able to isolate himself along with the Spot, turning their battle into a cage match as the multiverse collapses around them. It'd be a race against time, and they need to settle their score real soon. And in the midst of battle, the forgiveness would come into play, but perhaps not in the way that most people would expect. While duking it out with each other, Miles would share his life story with the Spot, how he became Spider-Man, how he had been trying to keep his life together, how he finally understood the Spot's desire to be acknowledged and leave a mark in the world. The two opposing forces would exhaust their own powers, reducing their battle into a fistfight. No fancy interdimensional powers, just two dudes using their fists against each other until both of them exhausted themselves, unable to continue the fight. It was in this time that Miles and Spot would learn to respect each other, acknowledging their strength, their persistence to reach their respective goals. The battle isn't about overwhelming an opponent, but it's about reaching a middle ground, a solution to any problem that most people had been ignorant to. The Spot would cry, acknowledging everything that they discussed in their fight, saying "I just want people to acknowledge my existence, dammit!" Miles would comfort him by saying, "Then help those people. Even if they don't appreciate it, just help them. You don't need the entire world to acknowledge you. You just need a few that would do that, and I can be that person for you. I became Spider-Man and made it my gig not bc others wanted me to, but bc I wanted to. Right now, the multiverse is about to collapse, and our powers are the only ones that can stop it," As the multiverse collapses, Miles and Spot would use their powers to fix it, but it would cost them both of their lives. Moved by Miles' words, his eagerness to do good for the people around him, the Spot would push Miles away and claim his cosmic powers for himself. This time however, the Spot would be the only one who stayed behind to save the multiverse. "I have nothing else in this world to go back to, but you still have! You gotta live your life the way you see fit, Miles! I understand it now: you can do it, because you're not alone!" "But what about you!? You'll die with that much power on your body! You can't handle it by yourself!" "This is MY choice, Miles! I'm gonna do my own thing, just like you already have, now! You don't need to worry about me! I've made up my mind! This is how I decided to go out! Now go, Spider-Man! Go back to your family, your loved ones, your world! They all need you, more than I could ever be!" And with that, the Spider-Verse is saved. The end. 😁

@astraldirectrix

10 ай бұрын

Anime af, maybe you’re on to something?

@alfianfawzi2064

9 ай бұрын

​@@astraldirectrixPerhaps so, and hopefully I am 😊😁😆 You see, the beauty of Anime and Tokusatsu hero fights is that they let us see a combination of spectacular fight choreography and cinematography, all the while the opposing sides are having some sort of discussion or debate through the collision of their fists. In this regard, Miles and Spot's fight would not be entirely about the good guy beating up a bad guy. It'd be about both Miles and the Spot, the most powerful beings in the Spider-Verse, trying to reach an agreement and an understanding on both of their circumstances. That's why I wanted Miles to go Cosmic Spider-Man so he could at the very least even the odds against the Spot, but still making the task of defeating the Spot as a tall order.

Cant wait for the video cut this one gonna be good one just like all of them

gwen's character is amazing i love her character so much

Please make a Beyond The Spider-Verse Prediction video! And any video that has to do with Gwiles/GhostFlower. Miles and Gwen are an amazing couple.

honestly, I dont want Gwen or Miles to see their Earth 8 selves, that would just seem too forced IMO But I can definetely can see Madame Web making an appearance considering how much of a role she had in the animated series AND Web of Shadows

@SoupMan28

11 ай бұрын

I mean, in the comics, they weren't really, forced on y'know, they just landed on a kiss, said they weren't ready type of stuff and continued being friends

@SpiderMan_N0ir

11 ай бұрын

I mean yeah I see this point, but I think also that it might be important to see so that Gwen sees that it is possible - aka get actual confirmation that they can be together. Just a theory, but I do see your point.

@YaBoyBadger

11 ай бұрын

@@SpiderMan_N0ir it’s interesting because both sides of the argument work if she goes to E8 she might try to force a relationship BUT it does also show her that it CAN work so its kind of a double edged sword in a way

@SpiderMan_N0ir

11 ай бұрын

@@YaBoyBadger yeah, I mean either way I think they’ll get together no matter what. It’s just a matter of how and whether E-8 plays a role in this or not. I think that it would be cool for Gwen to see E-8 because it shows her that it will work. I mean honestly to go more in depth. I don’t think that it can ever be forced between them. I’ll explain below. Ok so in ITSV we see miles having that all well known crush for Gwen. And at the end they pledge to be friends. Fast forward to ATSV she pretends to kiss miles when she goes back to her dimension. So we can see they both have love for each other so I can’t see it being forced because our course like the video said miles will forgive Gwen etc etc. so yeah just my little opinion for the E-8. But let me know what you think.

@JoshuaDiaz-cl6ex

11 ай бұрын

Theres a theory out there that says this Miles and Gwen are the one that became the Earth-8 ones

How to beat spot: Don’t throw the bagel

This boy in love with gwen lol

@BluEx22329

10 ай бұрын

At least you're honest about it.

@LilyQueen-pi2ku

10 ай бұрын

@@BluEx22329that’s what I’m thinking 😭😭😭

To me its that beyond the spiderverse is all about forgiveness(as you said) miles forgive gwen&peter while they both ask for forgiveness. Miles would have a chat with spot and they will slove there problems. And hear me out, freaking no one is going to die and in the end we will see miles and gwen will have a heart to heart chat and probably a kiss. Miles parents would come to know that hes spiderman(although i know rio knowns). Yae we need another gwen video and perdiction one.

What if miles turns into cosmic spiderman for a while?

That bagel really hit the specific person that Miles threw it at.

I think the forgiveness theory is pretty sound-- miles even says he knows he can stop him by talking to him, but everyone keeps telling him no

theory on how spot will be defeated: theory 1: miles will use his energy absorbing power to absorb the spot's dark matter and take away his powers. theory 2: miles could use a collider from another universe and give himself energy from that, and overload the spot with energy. i'm just ranting here don't pay attention to me

I can’t wait bro thank you for bringing us progress and can you please I mean really please make a video off Peter b Parker and also I have a quick question what was your first reaction to spot and when you saw others and am I the only one who thought spot was another spider man okay im done bye pls respond and do the video

@serpentsir

11 ай бұрын

After reading this, an idea did pop into my head for a Peter B Parker video! So yes, it’s on my list now! Also, no I didn’t think the Spot was another Spider-Man simply because I had prior knowledge of him before the movie came out. But thanks!

Another banger video. I wholeheartedly agree that the forgiveness route would probably be the most narratively satisfying when we consider all the points you mentioned. Really want to see you make that BTSV theory video and the Gwen video (I fucking adore her gimme more pls).

Again another banger from this man🔥🔥🔥 Can't wait for that beyond the spider verse video

I’m excited to see this!

Love your video bro, keep going!

every video you post is a banger w video man

Great video as always, I for on would like a beyond the spiderverse prediction video.

Yea the forgiveness tactic fits pretty good when you have Spider Punk who is known for breaking the rules.

A Beyond The Spider's Prediction video sounds cool!

My theory is that Miles uses his ability to absorb energy to defeat the spot. Miles still has potential and in fact is getting more advanced bio-electricity/venom related powers over time. Miles may be capable of absorbing the interdemensional energy and dark matter the spot is made of weakening him to huge vulnerability. Since the spot is extremely powerful it would take good fighting first with the Spider's eventually having the edge over the spot and miles absorb the energy and matter the spot is made of.

YES! Loved this video. Totally agree with you. And I also think that The Spot needed talking down and needs to be seen. Miles did say he had some fresh ideas on how to stop The Spot. Would love to hear your thoughts on BTSV and how the forgiveness process would work with Gwen X Miles. The more I thought about it the more I was surprised that people thought that they wouldn't reconcile. Miles drew and centered this girl in his head for a year and a half. There's no way he's going to abandon the prospect of her altogether so quickly. When he learns what she is doing to make it up, to apologize, to be transparent - it may take him a while to warm up but he will. His heart and his beliefs are too pure. And her devotion and conviction will be strong. Their bond and mutual understanding are too deep as shown by the film in so many instances to be that easily shattered. Totally get you on the Deus et Machina. In a film about choice and challenging fate I think that would be an adverse way to tackle the problem. But I'm really, really looking forward to the Earth 8 stuff. Great video!

Your theories sound pretty good! I feel like the next Spider-Verse movie will have The Spot be forgiven, since it's pretty hard to be a guy who can go into multiple dimensions

So hyped for this video, official says 2025 will be the ideal and possible time to release the movie.... but Im also so sad that this might be the last Miles Morales and Gwen movie 😭, any idea's after the spiderverse movie series ends? Maybe "Types of ..." series again?

All your theories are getting me more and more hyped for BTSV 😭😭😭. Keep up the great work!! Also I Can’t wait to see your upcoming Gwen video!!! 🔥🔥🔥

i need him to be redeemed so bad. hes just a guy who got really screwed over

If he has already tried talking to him in another series, rest assured, it will be something more than just talking in this take.

YES, you need to do the Gwen video! I need more Gwen content...

We dont know if Miles will defeat the spot, but even if the spot does, I think Miles will loose alot of things along the way. Across the Spiderverse breaks rules, and Miles might break the rules for being a protagonist (not in a bad way)

If you can make a quantum collider, you can make a quantum separator.

In the last two films, Miles used the shoulder touch to electrocute his antagonists and end their fights. But, I think BTSV will subvert this expectation by having Miles talk things out with the Spot and then use the shoulder touch to drain all the dark matter out of him, so the Spot can become human again.

@kjj26k

5 ай бұрын

Surely Miles absorbing an obscene amount of Dark Matter would be hazardous to his health...

Yes beyond the spiderverse prediction

oh i LOVE the forgiveness way..... idk if that's what will happen but, i think it would be a great resolution to the conflicts with Spot AND Miguel

Okay but here's the thing, Miles DID catch The Spot but Genke didn't call the cops so he escaped and I feel like I've heard no one talk about this!!! Great video btw, love the angle of forgiveness and redemption because that's what I'm hoping❤(you got a whole ass Spot simp out here 😅)

@Twigly_

11 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD YOUR RIGHT

@spencerreid2086

10 ай бұрын

if anyone dies in the next film their Blood is on Genke's hands. also I'm a Huge simp for Spot as well he's adorable lol.

could be interesting if they do introduce a higher power like cosmic spider-man, but then the spot is able to go toe to toe with him and defeat him

Can you please do a ghost flower video on how miles and Gwen will get together in Beyond The Spider Verse and also do a video on Earth 42 as well

Yeah I was thinking exactly this because u can’t really destroy him. Its kind of an MCU Scarlet witch situation, they’re too powerful. Holding them down isn’t gnna do anything u gotta switch what side they’re on 🤷🏾‍♀️

A btsv prediction video would be dope to see.

I'm really really really hoping that they include the 90s spiderman cartoon's spiderman. Since he too fought the spot and they could give us 90 kids the closure we need of what happened to the real Mary Jane

@flamesofchaos13

9 ай бұрын

YES!!!!!!!!!!! Not to mention he IS the Spider-Verse. The 90's cartoon is what created the idea of Spider-Man teaming up with Variants in a Multiversal arc. The Video Games came next, Then the Comics, Then the Newer Animated Shows, Now the Animated Films. Loop it back.

Dude, forgiveness will strengthen the CCA as it will teach children that you should settle fights by forgiveness and not more fighting

8:52 To expand on this, what if somehow miles becomes the cosmic spider god Only temporarily or maybe they switch it up so madam web blesses him with the power to use the power temporarily And maybe when miles subdues the spot that’s when he loses his cosmic power and talk to the spot

@kazzfuchsia1073

11 ай бұрын

I mean the Spot looks like an anti spiral so Miles going all Simon is not surprising.

I hope they bring Peter from TAS into this movie. Barnes would most certainly do it, and he's one of the few adaptations of Spider-Man that has a connection or even been in contact with the Spot. I think it'd be cool to have some of the Spidey's who weren't in the Spider Society in this. A lot of the most iconic versions of the character weren't in this movie. Spectacular, Unlimited, and the 60's Peter were here, so it'd be really interesting to see how the other Spider's like TAS or TNAS would interact with them. I still just think it's really cool that the actual Spectacular Spider-Man has met Miles Morales, so if we got more of that with other versions of Spider-Man we've already seen I'd be happy.

We need the ghostflower video. You don’t miss

Please make a vid on btsv and what you think will happen (love your vids)

It's funny, because I literally said this the other day on Jessie Gender's How Hollywood Corrupts Trans Stories that the solution is to solve Ohnn's problems with the Capitalist system the turned him into The Spot. Which is going to be a lot like Everything, Everywhere, All At Once, but with the real big antagonist not being The Spot, but rather Alchemax itself as the very source of everything wrong with the Spider-Verse and why Miguel adheres to the strict canonical law because as an employee of Alchemax himself he's tied down to the system every bit as much as Ohnn is. I find it funny that the Spider Society is Alchemax's founded Public Eye (in comics headed by Darren Cross, under the CEO Tyler Tiberius Stone) all but in name and with Spider-Folks being their own personal paramilitary, another recurring theme about killing the cop in your head that George Stacey even learns from in the final act in Across the Spider-Verse that shows that his adherence to order was a threat to Gwen and to save his love for his daughter he killed the cop in his head and gave up being an officer. It all goes back into why Hobie is going to be the biggest influence on the direction Gwen will take with the Web Warriors. In original Spider-Man comics, *he* was the Prowler, but at the end of Across the Spider-Verse, Earth 42's Prowler is Miles, having had that passed on by Uncle Aaron. Which is why next time Miles sees Hobie, there's going to be a lot of interesting back and forth lesson learning as their bond as brothers truly unfolds further. Miles will learn from Wiles Morales, and when Gwen and the Web Warriors come in to rescue him, Hobie will be the great negotiator and intermediary party that keeps the peace while throwing the biggest riot he can as his family comes together and Gwen and Miles come aside their differences and see each other's perspectives with clearer eyes. And it's going to be this family that helps Ohnn reunite with his as they do the ultimate change that the Comics Code Authority would hate the most: They're going to force the system to change. That metaphor for Capitalism will be subverted and changed into its ultimate logical conclusion: A Revolution to shake the Spider-Verse. -The Feline Spider-Gwen

late but the bagel thing hitting the spot from the last movie was def not a "little detail" added in. they had to have spread sum saying that the animators just wanted to add it so people paid attention/were familiar w it and then have it be like a butterly effect in the making. or idk maybe they just risked stretching that shit out but it worked ha

Oh yuh we need a beyond the spider verse prediction

love your vids! also who dosent have a crush on gwen?

@flaremations2693

11 ай бұрын

Me

My insane theory: Miles will use his venom to absorb and drain the Spot of all his powers. His heart gets permanently inflamed because of all that energy from the supercolliders. His mom, Rio, decides to give up her own heart for a transplant to save her son. She becomes his true canon event, but Miguel argues that it was of her own choice, not fate.

@thetruekingofwaffles

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if alternate miles will have a blood transfusion or something from Miles and get spider man powers? It could be like the cannon event happening later and stuff eventually going back into place in a cosmic way.

To be honest, if Gwen does have a Canon Event, it would be ATSV because no matter what and why she did. she still betrayed Miles who in his eyes, the Gwen he loved is dead to him. Miles would leave without forming a relationship with Gwen who has no choice but to accept that.

@SoupMan28

11 ай бұрын

tho, Miles was a bit heartbroken but at some point in BTSV he can see why Gwen did that, maybe after a day or two thinking about it since they are literally the same age (15 months but who cares basically the same) and come to forgive her

How do you think the live action Spider-Men would react to what’s happening in the SpiderVerse movies

Pls Do a prediction video

We want BTSV prediction video about M and G fr 🗣

@Carlton17277

11 ай бұрын

We want it now.

I have had this on my mind since I first watched ASTV, and I'd like to hear what you think. What about options two and three being melded together? Here is my pitch for option four: Miles in BTSV will go on a journey to seek out the Enigma Force and, like in Spider-Geddon will be chosen to become Captain Universe himself. This way we can have a climactic final fight between hero and arch-nemesis at similar power levels, which I'm sure would be a visual spectacle to that would go down as one of the greatest animated fight scenes of all time. Perhaps this is where we can put option two, Miles is able to get Ohnn to his senses by not just being a fly on a window he can swat away. Their powers of absolute light and absolute dark would perfectly cancel each other out leading to Miles trying to talk Johnathon down and perhaps come to forgive each other. What do you think?

Cosmic spiderman died in the spiderverse comics,but if they're gonna go full spider geddon then imagine miles getting the cosmic powers himself

I was just questioning this lmao

Good video. BTW. Deus ex machina was already used in first movie... do you remember what happend to Doc-Ock? ;-)

Make a vid on ur predictions

A theory I would like to see in Beyond the Spider-Verse is the Spot finding the Marvel villain, Nightmare , as a former scientist, another person in the collider explosion, and as the Spot long-time best friend and sidekick in BTSV.

Power of friendship

bro the high evolutionary and the spot are making Kang look like the villain of the week

I think that maybe miles will be able to acquire dark matter to reverse the change in the spot and possibly obtain portals himself. Or maybe something like red matter or other things of that ilk

*Thwip* What a great video my guy, all great points. *Spider-Sense* I sense the next video is coming soon gonna catch ya in the comment section *Thwips Away*

Option 4: The Collider. I like Option 2, provided Spot is restored to his human form. Like it or not, he is a danger to a lot of universes in his current state. Carnage in the comics has already tried to take over Spot to spread chaos across the multiverse. So even if Spot doesn't want to be a villain, he is too dangerous in his current form.

Spot was an anomaly

it's actually baffling to me how i agree with everything you say about gwen but i STILL hate her for some reason, ig she broke miles so hard that im not lettin it slide😭😭😭😭

I think that Sony can make this scenario: our web-warriors somehow find Spider-Man from 94 series (he wasn't shown in ATSV but the spectacular one was) and find his Spot! The 94 spot is a good guy so maybe he can help in BTSV, why not?

I'm so hyped for BTSV, I think I'll go with forgiveness, amazing video, also if Ghostflower doesn't happen I'm walking out of the theatre (and if anyone I love dies) Also I would love to see a BTSV prediction video!

Predict his next movements. Like how Goku counters Zamasu. Or maybe overwhelm his senses like Heimdall.

Everyone: *Forgiveness is important (never practices what they preach)

I love your theorys and I love Gwen as much as you do but I must say that there is something strange strange connaction between her and miles something diffrent In the second movie she sensed that something happend with Miles while they are not in the same dimension but the thing that took my attention is that in the first movie Gwen went to Miles' dimension she says that she was blown into last week and she was the only one all of the others came only after Peter died and she says her spider senses told her to go to Miles' academy and she understood why when she met him but then Miles still hasn't even been bitten and not only that, but we can also assume that uncle Aaron was the prowler even before Miles got bitten and Peter died we can assume that he was needed to go when he was with Miles probably to be the prowler which is why he wasn't available when Miles tried to call him so how Miles was supposed to be the prowler if his dimension already had one

I really don't think miles would be able to change the mind of the spot by acknowledging his perspective. The spot lost his family and all sorts of community, so he'd at least need the whole of the spider society to understand his POV to consider switching over.

Bro really said, "He should get more holes" 😂