Hey, Luis - very interesting! Yup, I have all those books also in my collection :) Perhaps one of the main differences between 17th century Drawing Books/Training Methods & 19th century Drawing Books/Training Methods (Bargue) centers on the invention of photography which, when visually analyzed, produces monocular (flat) "shadow shapes" to form an image - and this approach becomes very apparent in 19th c. academic student drawings to today's contemporary atelier. Another difference is that 16th-17th c. apprentices learned from etchings in their drawing books (hatchings can appear more three-dimensional, even resulting in the application of paint through brushwork to follow form) while 19th c. drawing students copied from lithographs, as printed in their books (more tonality, less linear). Just an observation ~

Super informative! ❤️

Great lesson! Thank you!

It's crazy I have that book lumen picturae, I forgot, an I've trying to download it . I don't remember where I got it but it's huge its an artist version, closed its 12x17 inches amazing book.

Thank you for sharing this knowledge and for your passion!

Excelent Luis

Love your channel!

Es impresionante tu talento , tu conocimiento y toda tu arte. Fue un verdadero placer haberte conocido y el haber tenido la oportunidad de ver tu arte tan real en los inicios de tu carrera. Espero algún día tener la oportunidad de visitar tu galería. Es impresionante como reflejas tu pasión por el arte en cada una de tus obras. Me encantaría algun dia tener una de tus obras. Te felicito por haber logrado todos tus sueños. Estoy muy feliz por ti y me siento muy impresionada. Felicidades por todo tu éxito. Gloria Abaunza

@LuisBorreroVisualArtist

3 жыл бұрын

Saludos Gloria: Gracias por escribir después de tantos años. Espero que te encuentres bien. Gracias por visitar mi canal! Te deseo muchas felicidades y próspero año nuevo.

Hola Luis, el manual que publico YVON alrededor de 1860 (Yvon enseñó durante treinta años en la clase con modelo vivo de l'ecole de beaux arts (1864-1895)) muestra tambien una suerte de hibrido entre esta cuestion mas lineal/silueta/envelope que soles comentar como asociado al tipo de dibujo frances, con el uso de cilindros y crosscontour envolventes para entender la tridimensionalidad de la forma. Por eso a veces esa distincion tan clara entre "linea/silueta =frances vs volumenes internos=italiano" me parece interesante como punto de partida pero con muchas excepciones e hibdridaciones

great information, thanks. looking forward to your portrait course on udemy.

@LuisBorreroVisualArtist

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting Bruce! I will be finishing the portrait drawing course soon.

Really appreciate the information. Keep the "ah. ah..ah" in mind when talking...

@diegocordova5557

Жыл бұрын

It became quite distracting at some point.

Hi, Luis, do you happen to know an old masters drawing system for hands that is similar with that of using ovoids for nose and lips and the letter nine for the ear? Some sort of simpler shape to begin with?

Maestro disculpe que lo agobie pero como comenté anteriormente donde puedo encontrar el libro de Pacheco que salga a un precio más módico pues en Amazon está rozando los 1000 dollares

@LuisBorreroVisualArtist

4 ай бұрын

Puedes descargar el libro entero aquí gratis.👉🏼 archive.org/details/HArteR03T09/page/382/mode/2up

@pedroluishd7520

4 ай бұрын

@@LuisBorreroVisualArtist gracias miles maestro

@pedroluishd7520

4 ай бұрын

@@LuisBorreroVisualArtist Maestro gracias .Ya lo descargue y lo voy a imprimir .Es muy amable de su parte .También me compre el de Palomino que me llega mañana

Lumen pinturae is more akin to silver point technique drawings. That book is not made to be drawn on charcoal or graphite; you're not going to blend.

@LuisBorreroVisualArtist

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!! Very good point. Consistent with Cennini’s starting instructions to learning to draw wIth silverpoint and quill pen. 👍🏼

@eirvingdiaz7185

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuisBorreroVisualArtist I am still learning how to draw and as soon as I can draw without making that many mistakes or using the eraser I'll give that book you're recommending a try. great video.

@LuisBorreroVisualArtist

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

where can i get the lumen book from?