My mom died in February and so the line “Grief is love persevering” really hit home for me. I don’t care how trite or silly people think it is: it’s true.

@annah-g6274

3 жыл бұрын

That line meant so much to me as well. ♡♡♡

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

I empathize to this SO MUCH! I lost my entire immediate family(mom, sis, brother, grandma) in the last 6 years, the last being my brother during COVID, so not only did the show and that line resonate with me it was cathartic on a level I never imagined! I seriously don’t get the weird backlash to that line in the slightest. I don’t find it cringey, silly or trite, for me it is beautiful and 100% true!

@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me. Last year my fiancé died suddenly on a Thursday morning. Exactly one week later, on the morning of his funeral, my mom died. To say 2020 was a horrible year is an understatement. Anyhoo, the entire WandaVision series, and that line in particular about grief being love persevering, was so cathartic for me. There is no doubt WandaVision came out at the perfect time for so many of us to help us cope with so much loss.

@chloekm7958

3 жыл бұрын

@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 I am so incredibly sorry for your losses ❤

@nviz47

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Bless you, I know that's difficult. I hope you find some level of peace/inner balance, whatever that means for you. 🌸 I'm sorry for your loss. But yeah, it's a strong line imo.

When Wanda kicked Monica out of the hex, she literally threw her through a fourth wall. That was funny.

Monica deserves a solo series/movie

@125loopy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not super into the superhero movie stuff and I don't read comics but I really liked Captain Marvel and I was looking forward to Monica in the show. What a letdown.

@billystokes3917

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. She's going to be in "The Marvels" but other than that I don't think there's anything else she'll be in.

@Fantallana

3 жыл бұрын

@@billystokes3917 she’s going to be in other stuff. The mcu doesn’t just bring in a superpowered character for one thing, and use them in only one other thing after that before ditching them. Not these days, anyway. She’ll probably be an Avenger, honestly.

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

@@billystokes3917 The purposely set her up to be in Secret Invasion with Sam Jackson’s Nick Fury. Besides him and Carol Danvers Monica has the most direct experience with the Skrulls on Earth. I can’t wait!

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

I seriously think The Marvels is going to use her properly. The director and writer Nia DaCosta just worked with Teyona Paris on Candyman. I think DaCosta is a brilliant story teller on par with Chloe Zhao, I can’t wait to see what they do!

Tbh I’m impressed that they didn’t do the played out cliche when Agatha stole her power and she goes “ahhh it’s too much powerrr” then explodes or something. It’s refreshing to see them actually have Wanda use her wits to defeat her adversary

@nicoreyes3602

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlynkenney7740 picturing Kathryn Hahn delivering this line rn lol

@carlosalejandroalvarenga4913

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlynkenney7740 LMAO, I can picture her saying that

@Kyrielsh1

2 жыл бұрын

It's a "cliche" that bears some sense, in certain situations. For example, it makes more sense in Kung Fu Panda 3 than it would have made in Wandavision.

@CheyenneNKStone

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely thought that's where they were going with that.

@carlosalejandroalvarenga4913

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kyrielsh1 yeah cause in order for someone to overlook that they need declaration. Like in Shang Chi. But agatha was smart and she wouldn't just explode lmao

Thank you so much for mentioning this Romani/Jewish erasure, as a Romani person I was really let down by the erasure and casting of Elizabeth Olsen, when as a child, my dad told me Scarlet Witch was "our" hero. I was really looking forward to seeing a Roma woman on screen. And it seems the only people discussing this issue was other Romani people until now!

@caradanellemcclintock8178

Жыл бұрын

Magnito is supposed to be Romani too obviously but they almost never mention it in the movies I think they hint at it a few times but they could be more clear

Great video. Smallest, minorist nitpick: It's important that we the audience don't see Monica's mother die. Monica has not processed this loss and by not showing it, neither have we. I'm hopeful that we later will see Maria Rambeau's graceful exit, and that Carol Danvers was there at her side.

@gentlesandladymen

2 жыл бұрын

We need the lesbians together again

@YoureRightIThink

2 жыл бұрын

Was she tho? I feel like Maria might be a bit bitter at Carol because she was away while her mom was sick

@sarahp5880

2 жыл бұрын

@@YoureRightIThink I thought maybe Maria got sick because of being exposed to something on that space mission. That might make Monica bitter.

“She be ACT.ING” is the perfect way to summarize Elizabeth Olsen. I absolutely adore her.

@zkkitty2436

Жыл бұрын

unfortunately she loves using slurs against Romani people ://

@messywalk

Жыл бұрын

@@zkkitty2436 WHU? When?

@selinawalsh9075

3 ай бұрын

​​@@messywalkLate ass reply, but there was a time where she was on a podcast (?) with Mark Ruffalo, someone said the g-word, got told it was offensive, and then she used it in a WandaVision promo. Thing is, I think that first one might have been an IW promo thing, so about 3 years difference between that promo and WV promo. Might be that she was dumb and forgot rather than just ignoring being told it was bad. Idk, I'm probably not qualified to speak on this, just my theory, because she has apparently acknowledged the fucky situation about her casting in the first place and her own white privilege, so it doesn't feel like she wouldn't give a shit.

I did find the lack of Monica action at the end really confusing. She forced her way in and then.....nothing.

@SD-zz4ov

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, they ms corona fucked with the filming. there was supposed to be a whole subplot with monica, fietro and the kids stealing the darkhold but they had to edit it out due to time constraints.

@chrisleebowers

3 жыл бұрын

@@SD-zz4ov That makes sense. The last episode seemed kind of rushed and slapped together. Where'd Darcy come from to T-bone the bad guy?

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

@@SD-zz4ov I hate how much COVID effected the end of WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier. The interference was strongly felt.

@trishahernz7809

3 жыл бұрын

Think the coronavirus kind of prevented to add stuff.

@brianm3160

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of things were meant to happen, the director and writer said so in the interviews, COVID

I thought Wandavision was a perfect breakdown of the five stages of grief, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance and sum up perfectly by Vision grief is love persevering

I hadn't noticed before why Black superheroes have a higher proportion of people with lightning powers. I'd be curious to see your take on why

@boybriar

3 жыл бұрын

Contrast between brown dark skin and white light is appealing.

@jaymabry1277

3 жыл бұрын

@@boybriar yet white people could be absolutely anything, and rarely ever have dark powers lol.

@boybriar

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaymabry1277 Ok?

@findfefito

2 жыл бұрын

Is for the same reason Storm has a long white hair. And why we got so many gingers on comics. It makes the character stand out and it gives a visual contrast.

@boybriar

2 жыл бұрын

@@findfefito Yup.

My father died the day after Thanksgiving and the “love persevering” line hit me hard. I was putting so much pressure on myself to push through the stages of grief and I was frustrated that I couldn’t just move on. That moment in the show was the first time it clicked for me that my powerful feelings of grief were a result of the love I felt for my father and not my own weakness.

I’m fascinated by Wanda and her type of superhero. As a kid who suffered panic attacks, I always found her temperamental powers connected to her grief were so relatable. I used to pretend I had Wanda powers when I would have outbursts. Especially as a way I could lash out and hurt my parents who abused me

@carolinpurayidom4570

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you are better

"Agatha All Along" is the american "But it was I, Dio"

@gregcourtney7717

2 жыл бұрын

Kono Agatha da!

“You know how many shmendricks she killed on the other side of the world?” I love princess lol

It’s about time someone talks about how awesome Jean Grey is! I’m so tired of the “Jean is boring” narrative. It just perpetuates the idea that nice characters (typically women) are boring and too feminine. Also, Wanda is the best female MCU character and far more interesting morally grey character than Tony Stark ever was (and I actually really like Tony).

@christopherb501

3 жыл бұрын

Why her typical love interest isn't _more_ tagged as the boring one, even at his best, I don't know.

@Silva-ek9hd

3 жыл бұрын

Jean is boring not because of who she is, but what she is. She’s the ultimate power blah blah blah. She’s the trump card who can’t do anything unless everyone else can’t beat the enemy then she comes out to wipe the floor with everyone. Her power cap is what makes her boring because there is essentially no cap.

@nont18411

3 жыл бұрын

@@Silva-ek9hd What you said is the same way general audience feel about Superman lol

@reyemilio00

3 жыл бұрын

I've never found Jean Grey to be boring. In fact, she's one of my favorite characters. I think most (but not all) people that dislike her are heavily influenced by the 90s animated series, in which she's not represented very well. 80s X-Factor, 90s X-Men Gold, and even the recent X-Men Red series, portray Jean as a strong, self-assured character in ways that have nothing to do with her powers (or even the Phoenix Force, for that matter). She's had a history of misfortune (being essentially replaced by both a cosmic entity AND a Mr. Sinister-created clone, meeting a teenager daughter from a hellish alternate timeline while she is still relatively young herself, telepathically experiencing the death of her best friend as child, etc). She has proven to be a character that takes the worst that fate, and editorial mandate, has thrown her way, and rises to meet the challenge. *I know this is a Wanda Maximoff thread, but to piggyback off of this comment, I agree. Jean, IMHO, is far from boring.*

@christopherb501

3 жыл бұрын

@@reyemilio00 What did you think about her X-Men: Evolution counterpart?

Re: Monica Rambeau, one of my first thoughts when I finished WandaVision was that i wanted to see her lead her own series. As someone who doesn't read the comics, i was really interested in her character and i want to see more of her. I kinda thought her getting powers was setup for her own series and was surprised to not hear anything about that being in the works when WandaVision wrapped

@foxlover6770

3 жыл бұрын

She’s going to be in The Marvels (or Captain Marvel 2), she seems to be one of the main characters so I do hope she is actually just as much a main character as Carol Danvers (especially since I like her a lot more) but I’m not holding my breath

@DerTaran

3 жыл бұрын

@@foxlover6770 I can imagine, that she will become the new Captain Marvel, after Bree Larwson triggers so many men (snowflakes).

@Fantallana

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerTaran that would require those men even being a blip on the MCU’s radar, which they’re not. They think they’re important and represent most of the audience, but they are the definition of a loud minority. Captain Marvel made a lot of money and her content will continue to make a lot of money. Monica will still probably be a major character though; I can see her being as important to Captain Marvel as the Wasp is to Ant-Man and as Loki is to Thor.

John Byrne is responsible for Dark Phoenix, Darker Than Scarlett, and Malice, THREE separate stories where the woman on a Marvel super team becomes more powerful, goes crazy and turns evil. Let’s not start on what he did to Barda in Action Comics.

@ulrik03

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, Dark Phoenix is written by Claremont, right?

@josephkolar3443

3 жыл бұрын

@@ulrik03 Byrne illustrated it, and at Marvel, the stories were co-developed by the writer and artist.

@Siansonea

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Phoenix only went crazy because she was manipulated and mind-controlled by an evil man who literally called himself Mastermind. Before that, Phoenix had saved the entire universe from complete annihilation. My takeaway was that female power is great until a man comes along and tries to use that power for himself.

@CaptainGreenHawk

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephkolar3443 In fact, it was Byrne that put people on the planet around the star that she ate. Which is the detail that made Jim Shooter say that she can't just walk away from that.

@anonmouse6337

2 жыл бұрын

@@ulrik03 yes, but Claremont originally wanted Jean to embrace the Phoenix and become a "Claremazon". Byrne wanted Jean to be corrupted by power and die.

Chris Claremont changed comics for so many people. As a kid going through the back issues into the X-men comics he wrote, Claremont could introduce diverse characters and make them feel valuable, human, and seen like nothing else I encountered at that age. Through Kitty, Storm, Jean, Kurt, Northstar, the Morlocks, and so many more he was able to broaden not only who could been seen as a hero and that those characters could posses flaws and a sense of humanity just as interesting as their powers.

@thetaarakian

3 жыл бұрын

The other amazing thing was just how LONG his tenure was writing the X-Books. It gave an amazing consistency to the storytelling. And it completely spoiled me. I thought that's how all comics worked since I really only read X-Books. But then I started reading other titles and suddenly, if I like a particular writer, I'm having to chase them through multiple titles of characters I don't even like while the book I did like gets some crap writer to fill in.

@jeremysmith4620

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetaarakian I feel your pain. After Claremont left (or got shoved out of) X-Men and Gaiman wrapped up Sandman comic lost some of the magic that they had held for me. Spoiled was absolutely the right description. I was lucky to have been able to grab such amazingly written books off the stands as a kid.

Seeing someone be this smart with hair that perfect is simultaneously painful and powerful.

Finally someone calling out the Cosby's for being black republicans

@tomhermann1167

3 жыл бұрын

I'd like this but it has 333 likes so....

@jimmykit-kat3424

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomhermann1167 not anymore!

@grandsome1

3 жыл бұрын

fixed it now its 444

@ihatetheheat4524

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with being a black republican?

@qwallace4832

3 жыл бұрын

@@ihatetheheat4524 Here’s the thing about black republicans. If you’re an American descended from chattel slaves, there are some problems that the federal government has to fix. That’s going to require big government. Big like it was when it made decisions about social responsibility which created Green new deal, HUD and FHA loans that led to redlining and codified Jim Crow laws. It can’t be a handout; its a debt that’s owed for the institution of slavery that propelled early American economy, Jim Crow, and carceral states that don’t get near enough media attention. The entire black population in some major white cities is all in prison. Now, if you (like far too many blacks) believe black Americans are in the perilous economic situation (primarily or significantly) because of our mistakes I have some recommended readings and data to show you. Every ethnicity has people doing the same stuff black Americans do, but our image has been propagandized beyond reality. I’m not saying vote Democrat, though. Especially at the top of the ticket. But in terms of being united, we are the swing vote. Right or wrong, 88-90% of blacks are voting consistently. No other ethnicities show these voting patterns. Not latinos, not minorities, not women. Black men and women just need to unite over policy, specifically, policy that explicitly benefits them. The notion of that policy can’t be laughable, either. Well, you just won’t be a celebrated, and supported female black politician. Like Kamala. So, basically something like reparations for Guam during Obama’s presidency, Native American reparation and land allocation, ongoing reparations for Jews, the AAPI legislation, or DACA etc-but much more robust due to the debt from the initial institution of American chattel slavery.

Loved this take, I am so tired of the "hysterical woman on power" trope, you hit great points and references 🔥 looking forward to your take on Dune ...the spice melange!

@timeneses

3 жыл бұрын

Go find out the history and meaning of the word "hysteria".

@iloveyourunclebob

3 жыл бұрын

@@timeneses whats the point of this comment? Are you truly just trying to inform someone without informing someone? Are you assuming they don't know where hysteria comes from based on nothing? Or is this just some weird way of saying "women ARE hysterical"? Honestly, wtf is this?

@Mazadepizza

2 жыл бұрын

@@timeneses stfu

"I don't know, Danaeris, why is a raven like a writing desk." - Future Crispy Shmendrick.

@alejandrocervantes3624

3 жыл бұрын

Cause they both start with an R. Thats right, that is how I always respond to that Riddle, use it if you think is funny or something

The Feminine Madness is such a great name for a band

I’m currently working on my Master’s Thesis on the role of trauma in the superhero narrative and this was an incredible watch, Princess! Thanks for the top tier content.

@noer2453

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds amazing!!!

@lelannazalee2730

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds fascinating! Can I ask what your masters degree is in?

I can see why you'd consider Wanda to be a WASP because she's played by one, but she's still supposed to be Eastern European - she's still got that history, the hostility and immigration issues she faced in earlier films, that janky ass fake accent - it's all still there, despite not being handled very well. Also, because American TV and film is so dominant, it's pretty normal for European kids to be really into American media, so I don't think that erases her culture (any more than it does to real kids!).

@findfefito

2 жыл бұрын

You can also see how quick US people are to turn their backs on Wanda in Civil War, even Tony mentioned that people was being rough towards her because she was a Sokovian imigrant.

@zkkitty2436

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping Princess would talk more about this, but Wanda is actually Romani and Jewish. Erik ojo has a video WandaVision And Whitewashing, that's really good and talks about the deliberate erasure of Wanda's Romani heritage. If they had honored her heritage the story's themes of trying to build safety while being met with constant hostility would have been way more poignant.

I'm BIPOC and was cheering Danaerys on. Her tone was less colonizer than John Brown from the start and the only time she ever did her job well was when she was sacrificing her ambition to end slavery and injustice. It was definitely a white savior narrative, but it was also relevant that her closest advisors were native PoC, not white people. And Tyrion, the guy wagging his finger at her, *defended the fighting pits* and tried to sell Mereen *back into slavery.* The show even lampshades the contrast between Tyrion bringing Westerosi pragmatism to Essosi lives and Danaerys sacrificing her privilege to wield her power for people without any with Grey Worm and Missandei turning against him. Also, one of the biggest insults is how much agency was stolen from Missandei and Grey Worm to drive Danaerys mad.

@BlackfangDragon

3 жыл бұрын

And when she gets to Westeros it is Olenna, a woman inopposition to the Lannisters, who gave her the only good advice when dealing with Cersei, while Varys plots treason for the season for stupid reasons, and Tyrion does so bad a job that it comes across likehes intentionally helping Cersei all along

@TulipQ

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would have been great if people started insisting Dany was mad based on her "break the wheel: end class hierarchy in all forms" goal instead of "she uses a dragon instead of a sword to execute people". When Dany kills Sam's brother and father, she is doing so because they are insisting they will never surrender in their effort to maintain their power as feudal lords. She offered them an honorable out, admit having been wrong and join team "anti-serfdom", and they pass. So why is this a sign of madness but Ned Stark executing a man for fleeing the literal apocalypse that is the White Walkers is part of him being honorable? The answer is obvious: Ned was upholding the hierarchy, Dany was opposing it.

@chrisleebowers

3 жыл бұрын

Similar to Paul Atreides, she's a deconstruction of the trope in many ways. Part of her unraveling was due to buying into her own myth. The all-too-human savior becomes a cult of personality figure, the cult goes to her head and she forgets that she's not divine retribution but just a human with political power who was doing something constructive with it before she got obsessed with it becoming her identity.

@cremetangerine82

3 жыл бұрын

The showrunners did Dany dirty.

@poppyshock

3 жыл бұрын

@@cremetangerine82 The showrunners did us all dirty.

I am so curious about what you have to say about my wife Edelgard, and also, "what is grief if not love persevering" is TRUE and MEANINGFUL and people only meme it because they haven't experienced it themselves >:(

@Fantallana

3 жыл бұрын

People meme it because it’s already an iconic line and people recognize it. I don’t think that’s disrespecting it, tbh

@bodhisattvaFM

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the same is true of "fat" Thor's depression.

@Notmyday2009

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fantallana Is the opposite. I mean some of it was done ironically but I think most just took powerful line and made a funny. Like Spidey getting snap. It was the most impactful death/moment in that movie but ripe for memes.

@sissymarie2912

3 жыл бұрын

No, it's more like the inherent need of most people who grew up in the internet age to process darkness through humor. And, when it comes to memes in particular the laughter comes from recognizing common ground with others. It's that we're not alone in our feelings that makes them appealing.

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

I in no way find the line funny or bad, like you said it’s incredibly meaningful and cathartic for me as I have lost my entire family over the last 6 years! Cheers 🥂!

Not the real takeaway from this video but I cannot believe they basically made two shot for shot identical versions of the Dark Phoenix movie and were shocked it was bad

As a priest in the Church of the Algorithm, I bless this video with a comment.

@theoian

3 жыл бұрын

Praise, Algor!

@ocinidolegna

3 жыл бұрын

not me thinking you were actually a priest for a second there--

@mchikos

3 жыл бұрын

I love this comment lol

@michellel2658

3 жыл бұрын

May the Algorithm bless Melina this day and all her days.

@procrastinator99

3 жыл бұрын

Algorithm be praised!

Cool use of Into the Woods clips

"I love that show, but still..." is pretty much everything for me most of the time.

I cant wait to see Polaris in the MCU. Pairing her with Wanda and giving the two of them the chance to bond like sisters would be amazing. If you ask me, if they are going to establish a connection between Wanda and Magneto they should do it through Polaris. Introduce Polaris first and have her and Wanda be established as sisters biologically or a sister like bond and then bring in Magneto.

@IHARumor

3 жыл бұрын

Oooh I'd be totally into this! I hope Kevin Feige decides to do something similar here!

@ellenh5468

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I'm picturing Wanda being so standoffish because she's scared to get hurt, only to take someone out to protect her sister

@zen_of_chloe

11 ай бұрын

Same idea but make Jessica Pierce canon maybe? OK that will never happen but I can dream. cf "Kid Dynamo" fanfic

They could add back in the element of Wanda being Romany if they wanted, though. Her parents struck me as cut from the same kind of cloth as Wanda, taking comfort in the sitcoms from America to wall out the way they were forced to live. They wouldn't be the first to renounce a rich heritage and/or eschew it altogether as a source of pain and suffering, as well as making survival in the present much harder. Her Romany heritage could be a facet Wanda rediscovers during her journey back to health, that gives her a renewed purpose.

@Gamelover254

3 жыл бұрын

In fact it’s very common that underprivileged country’s would take comfort in sitcoms as it represented a better & safer world. Plus that’s the only form of television they would really have access to. It’s actually how many people learned English. No matter what race Wanda was/is it still makes total sense (considering where she grew up) that she would take comfort in these comfortable shows regardless of the color of their skin.

@HunterDriguez

3 жыл бұрын

It almost sounds like you are saying that enjoying American sitcoms is equivalent to losing touch with your own culture. That cannot be further from the truth. Have you ever lived in a “third world” country? American media in these places is often extremely popular. Wandas parents watching and taking comfort in American tv is very common behavior.

@biiconic6348

2 жыл бұрын

They can’t really add in that Wanda is Romani in the MCU, because they’d be whitewashing at that point. Elizabeth Olsen is white and European. Romani people are people of color, as was explained in the video.

There's a great interaction in the Black Panther comics when T'Challa tells Monica that she more powerful than she shows and that she's a goddess like Isis. Not that T'Challa needed to validate her but acknowledges he sees what know one else sees.

@gregcourtney7717

2 жыл бұрын

Those comics also utilize existing black heroes and villains imo well. I was not expecting the scientist who wields a wrecking ball for a b rate team, but there he was and it was good.

@williamphillips3035

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregcourtney7717 yeah, that was good...the redemption of Thunderball is a very good look for him going forward.

One thing I liked about WandaVision is that the sitcom tropes were explicitly depicted as an unhealthy microcosm of the world that forced people into artificial roles that robbed them of individuality and agency, and Wanda's own culpability in creating that toxic environment was emphasized. There was the layer of nostalgia and kitsch, but there was always an unsettling undercurrent to it. So I appreciated that. I do like that even though they explored the 'woman loses her mind' cliche, the actual story was about why she lost her mind, how she lost her mind, and how she found the will to come out of it to become an at least slightly healthier version of herself. Wanda is a person who has suffered a lot of loss, and you can totally see why she would want to lose herself in a fantasy LARP. She's been abused and manipulated by all but a few people in her life, and even in her sitcom world, she continues to be abused and manipulated by Agnes. In the end, when faced with the reality of what she had done, and the reality of her fantasy family, Wanda chose to face reality. She did not, however, try to make amends to anyone, so there's that. But I don't think Wanda is supposed to be a cookie-cutter Good Person™ who becomes whole and healthy and fullly enlightened. She's always going to have that grief and rage inside her.

@swimmyswim417

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. And even though she was definitely the wrongdoer who did a lot of harm to her victims, I can understand and relate to her decision to just exit the situation completely instead of attempting to make amends and risking it blowing up in her face.

@oh.hey.2045

3 жыл бұрын

@madgirlmuahaha I feel like even though she was the wrong doer she had no control over it. Even in the show Agnes asked Wanda multiple times how she did all this and Wanda is just as confused as everyone else

@Saje3D

3 жыл бұрын

How do you “make amends” for brain-jacking a whole town?

@Siansonea

3 жыл бұрын

@@Saje3D by trying to help those people somehow. She did something bad, so she could try to do something good.

@DoveJS

3 жыл бұрын

@@Siansonea Sometimes though, making amends is really just to soothe guilt. I think everyone in town was happier having some distance from the unsettling situation they were just in so they could come to terms with it and so was Wanda; better for her to simply leave for a while. If she ever does makes amends, it actually might be better to wait so all the hostilities and bitterness can cool off. Plus, well, she LEFT Agnes there among them, I mean... that's not making amends but it's just not possible to do that if you're leaving a ticking time bomb behind you. If Agnes ever becomes Agatha again and she's still living in town, those people are in deep shit. Wanda can come back later, make amends, and maybe figure something else out for Agatha because she's not capable of stepping outside of her role but she is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I’m always kinda sad that the Dark Phoenix story gets reduced in peoples minds (and in films) to Jean goes crazy, for the reasons you said but also because she doesn’t just go insane - she’s being manipulated and abused. It’s a really compelling combination of her being brought to her breaking point by others and still taking responsibility for her actions.

Very strange that people in the comments are acting like you don’t touch on problematic elements in the show, given that’s most of the runtime of this video. Did they even watch it? Anyway, I’m crossing my fingers for the portrayal of Monica, Carol, and Kamala Khan in the future MCU. They’re the characters I’m looking forward to the most. That being said, I’ve noticed Wandavision and Loki (so far) are much better than FatWS, and I wonder if the MCU is just doing much better lately with fantasy-based content than “realism”-based content. I agree with you being most excited for the space stuff, lol

@bodhisattvaFM

3 жыл бұрын

All three D+ series have been pretty good. I actually didn't like WandaVision because I didn't like how we got Pleasantville versions of old tv shows rather than more direct interpretations of them. I still didn't think any of the shows lagged behind the others and FatWS is my fave of the 3 - despite it getting the worst editing treatment due to the COVID delay.

@iloveyourunclebob

3 жыл бұрын

@@bodhisattvaFM Yeah, I really like FatWS too. It wasn't perfect, like you said, the editing took a hit. Unlike the other two shows, it's a Captain America show and CA movies are more gritty and "real" (in comparison to the other superhero movies). CA movies have a completely different vibe than the Thor, IM, and Avenger movies. I think FatWS does a good job of keeping that vibe. Makes it recognizable as a piece CA in the MCU while also setting it apart as the new CA

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

Mia DaCosta directing The Marvels makes me incredibly excited and hopeful about how all 3 characters are handled moving forward. I love this dynamic they are setting up with Carol as the mythic hero Kamala idolizes and Monica as the disgruntled former fan girl resentful of Carols absence post her moms death! You add in a character like Rogue as a villain (just my wishful thinking) and I think it’s going to be amazing!

I love the video but I would have to disagree on Monica being Wanda's 'black best friend' like Sam or Rhodey. I think they're on friendly terms but I don't think they're even friends. I think that Monica sees a bit of Captain Marvel in Wanda and she sought to protect Wanda because she's seen the injustice towards powered individuals who are just trying to help but are consumed with grief.

@swanpride

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, especially since the show told two stories, Wanda's and hers. Monica's story was about coming to terms with this new world, and with taking a stance against solving every issue with weapons. Granted, a proper confrontation with director Dick would have put this across even more. Honestly, I think she was protective of Wanda mostly on principle, and because she had felt her griev. But the show is not about Wanda and her side-kick Monica, it is about Wanda and Vision on one side, and Monica as the leader of Wo and Darcy on the other side.

@coffeebeansPD

Жыл бұрын

that’s what i was confused about too. monica was just empathizing with wands, and i don’t consider that the “black best friend” trope, i genuinely feel like monica was just being a good samaritan. now the relationship between maria and carol however, i can see why people would think Maria fits that trope

For what Wanda still lacks is her connection to her Jewish and Romani ancestry and believes. Yes she is Easter European(Balkan to be specific), but lacks her minority status as both Jewish and Romani. Also they could have used a real country I am still confused on why they didn't, since then charecter's nationally is Serbian.

@iloveyourunclebob

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, from Disney and Marvel, I'd say to cast who they want. No hate at all to Elizabeth Olsen. All the hate to those in charge and making these changes to whitewash characters. Edit: I really don't know what word choice I was trying to go for, but I think it was supposed to be more on the snarky end and not "I'd say to cast whoever they want". I know I definitely meant they don't give af and cast who they want, not me approving and giving them the thumbs up. Lol

@Slm99

3 жыл бұрын

@@iloveyourunclebob I really like Elizabeth Olson and she talked about the race and ethnicity of her character. She apologized and acknowledged her white privilege, but for me it's not entirely on the actor and like you said on the company and the casting.

@satsivinarsharab5343

3 жыл бұрын

I think the reason they chose a made up country is because her country is to be wiped off the planet. Dont think Disney would tolerate this with any real country in a Marvel Universe. I also felt really sad we glossed over her accommodation period in USA, for many minorities-refugees its a very difficult stage, especially moving into an enemy state

@antonellamR2D2

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but in the Legion serie (Marvel television, but not MCU) Legion's mom was Romani and had been in nazi camps. And the father is PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER! BTW, that's a masterpiece.

@beeaggro2593

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't want to use a real country because it gets annihilated. Also. Y'know. Whedon. Wanda was basically made under Ike's thumb, etc.

I hope Wanda and Pietro go back to being Magneto's kids when Disney eventually decides to reboot X-Men! They need to stop playing with mutants! Monica Rambeau's comic history is riddled with micro aggressions. From the way she was written out of Avengers, to way her name kept changing. I love the fact that she's finally getting some recognition but it does feel like she's being used as a diversity prop.

@langleymneely

3 жыл бұрын

The speculation is that they are currently setting this up with the recently announced Trial of Magneto comic mini that has him on trial for killing Wanda on Krakoa! Many think she will be resurrected as a mutant thanks to dying on the island in proximity to Cerebro, which is now a system that resurrects dead mutants regularly.

@GiantButterKnife

3 жыл бұрын

Wanda and Pietro haven’t been Magneto’s kids in the comics for years.

@fangsabre

3 жыл бұрын

I actually really really hope they dont. It would actively contradict the new backstory they gave Wanda and it really doesnt do much for Magneto but give him a few extra pawns. And even then, Pietro is dead and hes really the one who could get the most of a retcon like that

@eduardopantoja9115

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's going to work in the MCU

@TheReZisTLust

Жыл бұрын

@@langleymneely the fuck, so Cerebro the mutant tracking Psi boosting machine now is a Healing tank? ?

1:00:50 I always thought Carrie's powers were tied more to her femininity, not her "madness" which was more a product of her environment.

YAAAAS I AM READY

@antonioalbul00

3 жыл бұрын

love your vids

@--1399

3 жыл бұрын

Ah! You're here! Your vids always make me cry. Thank you. :)

I’m waiting on this Falcon and the Winter Solider Analysis Video!!👀

I really enjoyed the part you talked about Jean and the dark Phoenix saga. I know the depiction of mental illness in the Phoenix saga is very messy but Jean Grey as a character connected pretty hard with me. I remember reading an xmen origins issue and in it Jean was non responsive in her room worrying her parents. They kept saying they lost their little girl. She couldn't go out into public without reading everyone's minds and getting extremely overwhelmed and having a meltdown. As an autistic person I finally felt like I found a superhero going through what I've gone through and it made me so happy that not only was she a superhero but one of the most powerful and most compassionate in comics. This is not disagreeing with anything in the vid by the way, more I happy to see more people talking about Jean and Wanda and the depiction of mental illness in comics

"Get these women off the novels" when they only started writing/reading novels because men took them away from there jobs ( and education ) to place them in the home. Omg have you seen anne Hathaway's pretrial of Jane Austen? Finding Jane, I think, but there's a scene where she goes to dinner at her beau's father's house with pretense, they want to marry and basically has to sell( herself and) the idea of "writing" in general to this man who only cares if its profitable. Yeah, mhmm, yup, sure thing we actually know a great novelist, wealthy and she's married with kids.

@pedrokatcradle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Svengali764 thanks

This proves that you can make a franchise without exploiting nostalgia and bad writing. You can be creative and tell amazing stories with profound narrative. WandaVision was so cathartic to me. I’m really enjoying all of the series. I appreciate you Muad’Dib reference 🤣

Thank you for this. I was suspicious of Wandavision having the odor of "females with power only do bad things while experiencing emotions! Rein them back into the calming structure of white patriarchy!" Bringing the comic book version of Jean Grey and her autonomy into it really helped. I've had an idle wonder when male superheroes experience intense, overwhelming emotions, how often are they given outs, considered complex or "chequered pasts" but we can still celebrate them. Whereas women with power are polarized into stricter roles. Have to think more on that. I agree, it would have been interesting to see Monica get therapy for post-Blip life and the loss of her mom (how would they have wedged that in? Dunno but that's a screenwriter's problem) because A) it would be good to see someone on screen getting legit, quality therapy to help normalize it (FatWS has it, but Bucky does better with Sam's informal counseling than his sanctioned and antagonistic therapist); B) to contrast how much Wanda could have benefited from the same but no one offers her any, EVER, except Vision and Monica. Vision is fine only because he's a former hyper intelligent AI with access to the world's psychological training - kinda MCU's Baymax - but expecting your partner or a random person who has gone through similar grief as the only support mechanisms? Boo.

Loved this duscussion. Loved the black and white. The change. Such a good discussion. I've always been intimidated by Marvel and stuck to DC but it's lovely to hear more about Jean.

And then Doctor Strange 2 happened...

@Cdr2002

5 ай бұрын

Uggh tell me about it

your content is underrated to an upsetting degree. the care and thought you put into each of your arguments is truly admirable, and i always come out of your videos feeling that i need to rethink my perspectives on several things. also, the blend of pointed, personal experiences with the broader commentary on empathy and power dynamics makes this one of my favorite videos on your channel! thank you for an excelent essay

My heart skipped a beat when you called Elizabeth Olsen a WASP cuz I thought it would turn out to be another TERF kinda acronym, lol

WandaVision was definitely my most looked forward TV Show for Marvel

Wanda was never crazy. She was grieving, alone, lonely, initially unable to control or understand her own power, angry.... she’s not crazy 😤

Magic: the Gathering fell into the same trope of a powerful woman going mad. The Planeswalker Liliana slew her last demon and gained control of her destiny. Instead of reveling in her self-determination and power, she goes mad with grief and ends up changing her name in the infamous novel Forsaken. Shame is now a prominent part of her character, as you can see in Confront the Past. Of course, guy characters like Jace felt no such emotion although they arguably have done more that’s shameful. I have tried to call out this sexist trope, with minimal success. Likely you could do a better job.

This video gave me an idea: The MCU could release a KZread channel where it's just the Watchers from Marvel being film commentary dudes on KZread. And in those episodes they can drop little easter eggs or references for upcoming projects.

Damn this video was the first thing I thought after seeing the new doctor strange movie, they did Wanda so dirty :(

I’m so beyond excited for this!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 And I agree, I was upset with how they handled her before. She was very Jean Grey-adjacent (Joss Whedon of course is a huge fan of the Dark Phoenix saga, even had characters reference it in Buffy season 6). This show was EXCELLENT (imo). And Wanda and Vision are the ONLY MCU romantic relationship to date that was handled well. I WAS upset at first that Mephisto didn’t play a part, even a small one, but I’m very glad it was all her and the power was hers (plus Agatha was a boss).

@sissymarie2912

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, I'd love to see them do more with Agatha.

12:00 Yup, Logan ended up being the head of SHIELD, in a relationship with Mystique and her two kids, Rogue and Kurt, also were agents.

The main argument I see when it comes to Wanda and wanting more from her is that they want her to make amends with the townsfolk but what they don't realize is the fact, none of them probably wanted to do anything with her. It was a good call to give them all space after giving them all such heavy trauma. I mean if someone mind controlled me for a week and made me have traumatizing dreams and thoughts I don't think I'd personally want to be near them. That's my hot take though.

I feel like the show mammified Monica. Aside from her getting her powers, what did she do other than try to babysit Wanda and her kids?? And it didn’t make sense to me that she was so sympathetic towards Wanda who was holding a whole town hostage. Even if she related to Wanda’s grief, Monica seemed like the type to be more rational and prioritize innocent people over some emotionally distraught avenger she barely knew

@KimmaParish

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it has something to do with her experience knowing captain marvel as a kid, and her being her mom's best friend? It seems that they've written her to be almost protective and over-forgiving of powered individuals. She seems extremely empathetic to their unique struggles, at the least.

@swanpride

3 жыл бұрын

I found it refreshing that she was portrayed a emphatic. Most of the times black women are (unlike white ones) are portrayed as somewhat aggressive. Either that, or they are completely subservient. I liked that Monica was allowed to be strong, while still retaining her "female" qualities. That is so rare even in a white character, but even more so in a black one.

@ambriaashley3383

3 жыл бұрын

@witch, please yes, all of that bothered me sooo much. She was willing to sacrifice her life for kids who she barely knew (which is in character as a hero, so I get that), but she also attempted to absolve Wanda of the (appropriate) guilt she felt for brainwashing people. Definitely bad writing towards the end, which I see some people is saying was due to COVID rewrites

@anthonynorman7545

3 жыл бұрын

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@MTech07

3 жыл бұрын

What I expect is that this is only the start of her character. This is her origin story and I hope to see more of her. Probably was not developed because this is Wanda story, but I think she was really important. She taught Wanda how to process grief in a more positive way.

I’m really excited for the Edelgard video, I don’t see a lot of analysis of Fire Emblem outside of dedicated FE channels

WandaVision is the only live action MCU property that's really captured my attention and my heart. I haven't seen anyone take on Monica's part in all this either and I'm unfamiliar with her as someone who never engaged with a lot of Captain Marvel material so this troubled history with how she's been misused as a character is great to know. Thank you so much for this video!

I don't even have Disney+ so I haven't watched WandaVision, but I clicked on this video as soon as I saw it!!! You're quickly becoming one of my favorite video essayists (and I watch a LOT)! I love how well-researched and well-spoken you are, and your opinions are always so fair 😁 I hope you have a great day! Anyways time to finish watching since I paused in the middle of the video to type this lol

@NathanWubs

3 жыл бұрын

Disney is an evil corporation, so pirating is good actually. Watch wanda vision online.

Okay but seeing you pop up with a bunch of musical-related content semi-recently has only made me love you more than I already did. Plus the upcoming Fire Emblem video? Are you the perfect creator? I would absolutely die if you made a video on musical threatre in some way at some point. No idea what form that would take but it would no doubt be fantastic whatever it is.

this is gonna be an interesting video i cannot get over her casting choice, (and the fact josh whedon made her backstory that she willingly joined hydra when she was a romani character and the show has gotten criticism from my romani friends for how it played into stereotypes) but im interested in hearing your perspective

@phylasvell

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlynkenney7740 since her comic creation she was romani (and the daughter of a jewosj holocaust survivor) the issue is, a white actress was cast as the role and the said actress has went on and did interviews wherw she described her character using the g slur (a slur which my friends consider racist) and thats not even getting into the bad writing of making a whitewashed romani/jewish character work willingly for the nazi/hydra group within the mcu

@birdsareasocialconstruct5083

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlynkenney7740 I may be reading your comments wrong and if so correct me, but I think you're mistaken. They didn't made her Romani, she was always (at least has been for many years) Romani and sometimes, Jewish too and that's why you missed it because this part of her culture goes unaddressed when it could have been a meaningful way to explore her character and talk about some issues that many people don't know about. Especially since the series is entirely about the many traumas Wanda suffered trout her life.

@Labinzel

3 жыл бұрын

I mean Wanda&Pietro thought they were SHIELD tho? And as Steve said, they aren't the only ones who volunteered for the chance to have the power to protect their country.

@phylasvell

2 жыл бұрын

@@Labinzel that doesn't excuse whitewashing, whats with wanda fans using many leaps to excuse whitewashig

Great video. Just one thing. It isn't really a generational that killed (heh) the death of characters in comics. It's trademark. You have to keep a character in publication once every few years to keep the trademark for the character active. At one point, Marvel tried to do this one year by publishing what amounted to a character encyclopedia, but usually they just bring the characters back from the dead for a story arc to keep their ownership of the characters active.

I subscribed so fast - you are articulate, insightful, passionate, and uhm ADORABLE

“I’m not speaking from personal experience of course.” poor lindsay. 🥲

It seems like the only "accountability" they intended for Wanda was her suffering more grief, which feels like empty punishment to me and wasn't satisfying at all. I (naively) assumed Monica would have a large part in "defeating" Wanda, while still maintaining her empathy for her. That would have been a really interesting way to recognize that Wanda isn't evil, necessarily, but her actions are wrong. It was really disappointing to see her pretty much erased from the climax and then show up just to forgive Wanda completely. Like, there's more depth to forgiveness, accountability and empathy than that, but the show didn't seem to be interested in exploring that the way they did the grief that led to Wanda's actions.

@TheRandomzcookie

3 жыл бұрын

it screamed "we ran out of time or money" to me. the show was very clearly building monica up to be the hero of the situation. i absolutely think they intended more for her. i don't even really give a shit about how shows dole out "accountabilty" or "punishment", i was just feverishly excited to see her and wanda have some cathartic moments where they talk about their trauma and get to know eachother. i wanted them to end up understanding eachother, and gain something from that, mutually. i mean, it would make sense, considering monica's powers seemed basically activated by wanda's, but of course instead of reconciling that she got a lame sidekick moment protecting the kids.

@negaprionaszr

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRandomzcookie Oh absolutely, by accountability, I just mean that it felt like the show tried to balance out Wanda's harmful actions by making her suffer more, which was like... ok... how does that help anyone who was trapped in Westview? Like Monica? And it was very weird for Monica to exist basically just as a mouthpiece for that choice, just to be like "Nah you're good, you suffered!" I didn't want to see Wanda suffer more, nor did I feel like Monica's empathy was showcased by her being like "You're fiiiiine, you lost your kiiiids." I felt like there really could have been a bunch of interesting ways to have Wanda and Monica dissect grief and take both of their emotional lives seriously and instead it was so emotionally empty for both of them.

@SimonBuchanNz

3 жыл бұрын

I never really got the "accountability" theme others seem to have. In fact, the whole theme to me read as "there's no easy villains here, in the end". Everyone has a point but also nobody is really at fault, even Hayward.

@GeminiBabe1996

3 жыл бұрын

I think a huge part of that gap was that Corona hit and production stopped. Supposedly, there was a planned subplot with Monica and the kids that was scrapped due to COVID.

@MiloKuroshiro

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRandomzcookie It's less a money issue and more of scheduling and COVID thing!

I'm not an MCU guy, I really can't watch any more of those movies. I was so surprised by how much I liked WandaVision, and I am enjoying the Loki show too! That felt like something I should share here lol

describing Hayward as a walking Micro-Aggression is so perfect

If you want another interesting (read: horrifying) way in which art handles or mishandles the “mad woman” trope, it’s presentation across centuries of opera is worth looking at. As far back as the Italian Renaissance, you had mad scenes with women (presented through relatively modern music) observed before and after by male characters, presented through very “stable” and traditional music. Composers tended to put more attention into the music of the mad scenes, since they were allowed extreme latitude in how adventurous the music could be, as long as everything was returned to “normal” by a male observer. Skip ahead to the early 20th century, where the female character ends up being the one the composer is so much more interested in that they end up actually killing the men trying to keep them under control. Of course, it’s all grotesque, start to finish, but a really interesting illustration of art pushing against these sorts of gender constraints in an unbroken arc away from them, whether or not the composers realized it or not. Of course, every other thing about western opera is so problematic that it can be tough to separate the issues from each other (there was an opera by R Strauss written specifically to argue against the push for women’s rights), there’s still some food for thought there.

Wanda isn’t a WASP though, even without her Jewish and Romani heritage, she’s from Eastern Europe which isn’t Anglo-Saxon nor very Protestant.

@moustik31

3 жыл бұрын

Elisabeth Olsen's Wanda is Wasp.

@GiantButterKnife

3 жыл бұрын

@@moustik31 how?

@McMoldys

3 жыл бұрын

Although the character isn’t WASP i tjink she meant that the actress is WASP so therefore the portrayal is affected by the actress’s identity.

@merlumili

2 жыл бұрын

What does wasp mean? I tried looking it up but nothing came up aside from actual wasps lol

@McMoldys

2 жыл бұрын

@@merlumili it means White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

I think the only time we have a male character in a similar situation is with Legion. (That tv show was fantastic as well),

I think the reason why movies like Wandavision, where you don’t expect it to be good, can be good, is because the ceo rich guys simply let them do whatever, since they just don’t care about it. This means that the directors and others have huge freedom, since the bosses aren’t trying to milk it

@cherrytries2922

2 жыл бұрын

ignore movie im an idiot

You’re so underrated - really appreciate seeing such a thorough analysis of the mad woman trope in comics. Your videos always bring me joy!

When you were speaking about madness and power I focused on the Demona poster behind you and it really moved me. As a black woman I identified closely to that character, she was bad, but she was not wrong. She wasn't crazy, she was furious, and I really identified with that!

@Princess_Weekes

3 жыл бұрын

Same!!!!

Really cool video - I kinda disagree about them completely erasing Wanda's none power otherness though. While her being a Roma would make her more obviously an 'other', Sokovia comes across an ex-soviet country with alot of Serbian undertones. Serbs are an ethnic group that has faced lot of persecution and have experienced genocide. Wanda is clearly hiding parts of herself to fit in more to her sitcom world - for example, she only speaks with her accent when not in the hex and fake Pietro points out that she's hiding her accent. She's hiding the obvious parts of her otherness.

@yellowhouse4911

Жыл бұрын

Lmaoooooooooooo "has faced a lot of persecution" yeah in 1941. Then they turned around and committed war crimes and genocide themselves in the fucking late 90s. Boohoo

I love the hot takes here. Not yet a patron or on nebula, I take in all i can here as I love your work!

Loved WandaVision, definitely more interesting to have a more character centric series and building that. Yea, i was hoping they'd do more with Monica, but as a 'set up' for what i hope they do with her later it was okay. She definitely needs to get into a power-fight with her Dad Carol... sorry Disney, as a military brat, 90s kid and now vet, I KNOW those signs... 'best friend' my ass -.- yea, that leads to a 'bad' trope, little twisted on its head, of black kid with missing 'dad' but i kinda hope they do something more with her character in Captain Marvel 2, and hopefully her taking back the name and solving some of the issues there >.> id like to see her be the MC there and further development as she had a stronger build up here as an opening, and theres enough reason to do so... buuuuuut... this is now disney and the MCU *shrugs* The end of WV did seem like it was missing a lot, but what was there was still good, way better than i thought~ And personally i LOVED the overt whiteness it basically laid out with the sitcoms... cause it was AWKWARD AS HELL XD i feel it was meta showing how awkward that 'silent' racism was, but well, thats just my opinion~ especially with how everyone else was weirded out by Geraldine but Wanda just all 'okay' till things... which kinda shows how awkward prior opinions vs. Modern opinions on overly white media is... its just... weird, looking back, and at modern stuff that sticks to that 'safe' format. Its strange and awkward cause thats not how things are now... or again could just be the bend of my lens~ Again, wish there was more on some bits but feels more me nitpicking then other series, so thats good~

@Fantallana

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Monica and Carol avoids the “black kid with missing dad trope” because that trope is usually just a racist jab about black men being lazy absentee fathers, while also mocking the child for having “daddy issues.” With these two, Carol isn’t a black man, and Monica isn’t being mocked for being angry that she was gone. They seem to acknowledge it was wrong for Carol to abandon her, even though Carol is overall a good person she still did something wrong. And Monica is sympathized with.

@tesreso5448

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fantallana in general i just had the vibe of it being a potential lens trope for upcoming conflict (which im hoping for, cause if done right can be good drama and development for both and as you said, acknowledgment of 'good ppl can do bad things') but suppose it isnt the 'full' straight take of the trope, like i said 'bit twisted' but i do agree with the point out~ its not literal in the normal sense of the trope, but to me, still kinda feels like it... if anything, hopefully whatever happens next can be a subversion of the trope and somewhat acknowledgement of what Carol and her mom really were (the lack of flat out acknowledgment, as someone that lived in that 'dont ask, dont tell' military era in its entirety, is the one part that rubs me wrong about the first movie -3-)

A whole hour! Thank you ❤️ I love your videos. I've been restless today, I'm sure this will make me feel better when I have a chance to watch it later in the afternoon.

I have an idea for reversal of stories of this kind: that a man who feels emasculated and threatened by women’s progress gains a lot of power, like Wanda and Jean, and embraces violence. That it is not a woman who gained power and became "crazy", but an entitled *man* who gained power and behaved violently. Say in the case of the Dark Phoenix saga: that instead of Jean, it's Scott or Logan who become villains, because they feel threatened by non-submissive women. I've realized that this is nearly identical to the plot of Tighten from Megamind

@mariar.273

2 жыл бұрын

Literally any superhero plot that involves subverting tropes can be found in mega mind lmfao

this was amazing and im super looking forward to your fire emblem three houses video now. ive been binging your videos since i found your channel a few weeks ago and your analysis and commentary on different media is always so good and engaging. i always learn something new and enjoy hearing your perspective

Yay, I really wanted to hear your commentary on this series!! It was so interesting and shocking from marvel

Do I know anything about superheros? No. Will I listen to an hour long presentation about a show I've never seen, will never see, and about characters I've pretty much never heard of? Yes. And I know I'll learn a bunch of stuff along the way because Princess has a way of making a dumb dumb like me smarter.

Into the Woods, Chappelle's M-A-R-S, and all this in-depth analysis is just perfect. I also appreciate that you take the time to explain the comic backstory for those of us who haven't read up on it (I swear I have tried to brush up on it but those Wiki pages are rabbit holes that go on for ages and reference about a million characters I legit don't know/remember).

Great video!! And happy to hear you’ll be co-hosting with the SBG book club! 😍

as always, your takes are like a breath of fresh air. also, the point you made about believability taking precedence in your mind over how stories dole out punishment or accountability is something i particularly relate to a lot. like, to me, punishment often feels contrived in a story if it seems like it's just... yknow, karma coming back to bite someone in the ass, against all odds, just so the narrative can make it clear that "doing what that person did is bad!" it sometimes detracts from a stories ability to fully explore an issue and start interesting, important coversations-- which, for all it's faults, is something wanda vision absolutely succeeded at doing. it forces us to ask questions about our impotence in the face of trauma, how we react to that, how we can try to overcome it and take control of ourselves, which is imo extremely relevant for the world we live in, specifically in relation to how we can traumatize eachother even by accident (which is, again, extremely relevant to a world mired in hypervigilance, overreactive internet culture, etc, all affecting irl communication skills and ability to understand the people around us). and at this point i'm going off track, but i was just gonna say that the analysis of narratives in the context of similarly "modern" problems is exactly what i watch this channel for. i mean, for example, it was refreshing to hear u give focus to monica when the vast majority of discourse i've seen has been about the hollow "is wanda bad or good?" question. thank you so much!

JACK KIRBY HO!!! I died. Seriously, though, he was great.

i’m only about two minutes in but i disagree with the statement that the show didn’t minimize the pain she *caused* .. monica’s little speech at the end about the townspeople never knowing what she sacrificed for them + the townspeople *only* giving her dirty stares after she imprisoned and tortured her absolutely minimized the harm done to them imo

@Merinkous

3 жыл бұрын

That ending really bothered me.

@anneidevdl

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the ending was a huge yikes for me. It just isn't logical. Obviously yes, she sacrificed her fantasy world. But that's like telling a kidnapper ''I know it's really hard for you. Your victims, who you held chained in your basement will never know how tough it is to let them go free and how much you sacrifice by doing so.'' Also, the townspeople would run for their lives while crying and/or screaming. Because they are terrifying. Because Wanda is a terrifying woman who has taken them hostage and taken their autonomy away. Having your autonomy taken away is much worse than a lot of other horrible fates, and I thought they would explore that more and really show the suffering she caused, but instead we got a couple of teases (crying halloween lady, the boss' wife and lady who begs in the few seconds she can speak to let her kid out of her room for once so she can see her again.) They just could have done so much more to emphasize how horrible what Wanda did was, and instead they went with ''feel bad for the kidnapper''

@Merinkous

3 жыл бұрын

@@anneidevdl Agreed, though I interpreted the town people only giving her bad looks vs freaking out as their fear for her. Like they didn't want to act out too much against her incase she decided to retaliate. It was mostly Wandas reaction afterwards (I thought she would be more remorseful, less defiant) and Monica Rambeau baby-ing her and acting like she did a big sacrifice. I felt like that was not how either character would have really reacted. Part of me wishes they postponed the ending until after Covid to give us the original ending... maybe it was handled better?

@anneidevdl

3 жыл бұрын

@@Merinkous I've never seen hostages do anything but run away the moment they think they are free. The dirty looks were very obviously to paint Wanda as a victim and the townspeople almost as bullies

@IRiboty

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I definitely got to know more and empathise a bit better with Wanda after the series but the way she was defended in that scene felt unnecesary and sort of forced... They had already established the events that led to that point as well as her feelings, rounding on the morally grey development of her character, so what Monica said felt like MCU trying to justify Wanda's actions out of nowhere

I just discovered your channel, and i’m so excited to have finally found a comic book nerd on youtube that I actually enjoy watching and listening to. I’ve loved comics for years, but i could never find any youtubers talking about them that I would click with. Keep up the good work!

God Melina I'm so happy I found this channel. I get so excited when i see a new video by you, love to listen to your essays while I settle down for the night after work. Psyched for that FE3H video.

1:59 god bless Kathryn Hahn. 24:39 yup, they were callous. What was keeping them for arranging a memorial so Wanda could grieve?

Doctor Strange sequel ruined her character! Sam what were you thinking?!

Thank you so much for making this! I loved the show but I also had issues with how Monica's character was handled and had no idea how messy her comic history was. I could listen to you talk about comics all day, thank you again!

The KZread algorithms brought me to you today and I couldn’t be happier! You’re so cool! I’m loving your essays.

With how Blizzard have been writing a lot of their female leads in Warcraft lately they could really learn a whole lot from watching this holy shit, great video!

@Smile-ni9nc

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I know what you are referring to 😔😩💩

finding this video after MoM is honestly depressing

I learned so much from this video, thank you!!! WandaVision came at a time where I was struggling with dissociation from grief and I can't articulate how seen I felt by the care with which I felt they handled Wanda's mental illness.

Another great video very informative. Love stuff about Comics