My father thinks out loud, which leaves no room for dishonesty, and everyone thinks he hates them. I cherish his moments of kindness.

@stangreen4134

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

@hellofriends5751

2 жыл бұрын

@@stangreen4134 tell me you're bingo, I want to play.

@jackmorgan8931

2 жыл бұрын

Lisa... I could tell stories. I could rant for hours. But it would all reduce to just this: You are indeed a rare jewel and trust me on this: You dad is so proud of you....

@ericharrison6418

2 жыл бұрын

This resonates. I’m the type of father that doesn’t care about opinions. However the important things in life always get taken care of.

@omardelmar

2 жыл бұрын

I’m the same way and people think the same. But I will not censor myself. Thank you for sharing

I also think that living in comfort makes you automatically believe you are a good person

@gnarthdarkanen7464

2 жыл бұрын

It's only easier to scowl down your nose and judge other people from the comfort of a full belly and an air-controlled space in relative peace... It's easy enough to figure out... It's because NOTHING ever feels impossible to the lazy jack-ass in an Air-conditioned office who DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO IT. If nothing ever feels impossible, then there is no desperation... and no need for temptation to lash out or cause harm... to hinder others. Don't get me wrong... I like comfort, just not too damn much of it. Too comfortable and you just quit trying... you fail to see a point in growth or exploration. ...The hungry tiger hunts best. ;o)

@Stopinvadingmyhardware

2 жыл бұрын

You’re correct

@mikyoki9463

2 жыл бұрын

When living in comfort comes as a result of going through personal challenges and tough experiences it's possible that they would be conscientiously mindful towards the comfort they have obtained. I don't think living in comfort is a consensus for being closed minded when you start putting it into the context of someone who has gone through great hardships to earn something secure. Believing any good will that people in comfortable living would put out is through automation would be naive.

@gaia7240

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikyoki9463 yeah but people who got there in that way are rare, and then many got there cheating and doing illegal things. Majority of people who lives comfortably were born in it

@beauchamphuberville1355

2 жыл бұрын

I think its easy to forget the other side - the fear remains.

“Go the extra mile. It’s never crowded there.” - Dr. Wayne D. Dyer

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

I like one aspect of that but at the same time I don’t think striving to be alone away from everyone is the best route to happiness so that’s a double edge sword and probably can only be used in certain specific context

@masterson0713

2 жыл бұрын

@@Future_looksbright did you understand that the meaning is to put in extra effort in whatever you're doing and the humor is that most don't do that?

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterson0713 it was just a stupid and not very thoughtful comment looking back. My apologies. ✌️.

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

@@reddawg6748 anything specific? The case for Caesars Messiah by chance?

@SA-vw4ny

2 жыл бұрын

But it is also very lonely at the top

I was at central prison in Raleigh working on an elevator, an older inmate there told me; "Don't ever be a badass. I was a badass and you see where it got me." That was 25 years ago, I wish I knew his name.

@jamesoncass4867

2 жыл бұрын

Bill

@jonbovimalkovich1474

2 жыл бұрын

Dad? Is that you?

I've always felt I'm naturally selfish, and now at 26 after a lot of work I feel like I'm starting to truly treat people properly and have my intentions at the forefront of my mind constantly to make sure they are actually pure. Always felt my ability to lie to myself about my motivations is astonishing. It's a relief to hear jordon say he has had to work to be a good person, because I've always been worried there is something inherently wrong with me for having to work so hard to be decent

@Cariad247

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this 🙏

@picklem576

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you. Keep it up!

@OhhBiscuits

2 жыл бұрын

Relate, and 26 as well.

@A1Kamon

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome man. What’d you do to change that, just be aware of it?

@jsyvret472

2 жыл бұрын

@@A1Kamon I think a big part was putting myself in the shoes of the people I had hurt and making myself feel their pain, as well as my own guilt and shame about causing it. Really dwelling on it as well. Doing that humbled me big time (I was quite arrogant). It also gave me motivation to change. Being faced with the reality of who you are is extremely painful, but like jordan says, it burns parts of you away that need to burn. I had a really difficult time with my mum as a child and as I grew I decided her main problem was that she was refusing to feel the pain of the damage she was causing to her family because she was terrified to. Which is reasonable because facing those parts of yourself can feel like it will literally kill you but if the other option is your child developing pretty serious mental health issues it seems like an easy decision. From that moment I decided that I would try my best to never let denial and delusion protect me from the reality of who I am. And the biggest piece of that puzzle I believe is making sure you feel the pain that your causing to others in life Sorry, super long winded reply. It's hard to communicate this stuff any other way

I used to think of myself as a good person until the consequences of my actions bit me in the ass! This man is right, it's being a good person that is hard and what's important. Being otherwise is takes less effort.

Well as a very agreeable woman I can totally relate to this. I grew up positive and everyone around me held a firm belief I couldn't harm a fly or even dream about it. It's true I can't harm a fly I just let it out the window instead but boy after I've known this person who made me lose everything like I literally almost gone homeless because of him he crushed me emotionally, socially and financially...he crushed my ego. The kinda stuff I viewed myself doing to him were out of my system! To this day I still hold so much resentment to him to a point I shock myself. Well some people may say that's normal you've been hurt and you're reacting but it gets really dangerous when you start seeing that person who hurted you in other people. That's where you have to do some serious self-controlling and discipline especially when you are given the power to execute those evil fantasies. It does get better with time but in short, never be too comfortable with the idea that you're a good person..it is a work in progress.

@cliffchampion5501

2 жыл бұрын

Also see that person in yourself. You are capable of doing the same to another person.

@cliffchampion5501

2 жыл бұрын

@@jims5394 yes i totally agree with everything you said in your post and I commend you for your resolve.

@moderndaydrifter4672

2 жыл бұрын

I totally understand, I had the same thing happened to me. It's been 12 years since this took place and I still got the horrible feelings towards this person. Yes it has gotten better in that time but I see all women as being the same as her, I just can't get past that.

@Squashmalio

2 жыл бұрын

Strongly strongly recommend reading about Jung and shadow work / shadow integration. I can tell that whatever happened to you was really F'd up and idk if you should bother trying to forgive or anything like that, not trying to advise your actions when I don't know what I'm doing myself and I don't know your situation. But I really believe what Jung called shadow work could help get you back to being yourself, maybe even more like yourself then you were before

@XTRABIG

2 жыл бұрын

That feeling is a reminder of the lesson- so u don't allow it to happen again. Just don't beat yourself up about it. But remain aware.

I can relate to his meditations on what he was capable of, because I have visions of doing terrible things to people and some of them are simply shocking. I have no choice but shove those thoughts aside and pretend they never happened. It really makes me question myself and who I am.

@axelord4ever

2 жыл бұрын

I've learned to live with them. It's just your brain running hypotheticals. We do it over everything, and I'm thinking you simply _notice_ the horrible ones more. You have a desire to impose your will over the world, maybe with a bit of a cruelty streak. It's fine. If anything, I'd be warier of someone who told me they never think about doing anything they'd deem horrible. Either they're a saint, a liar, or a monster.

@angelus_solus

2 жыл бұрын

@@axelord4ever It really had me concerned, because I'm not a violent, hostile or confrontational person and actually hate the concept of hurting others. I don't even like yelling at people when I'm angry. It's not that I'm incapable of standing up for myself when I need to, but losing my temper is something I do my best to avoid. Once that happens, the other person has already won and I don't like handing out victories. I guess I'm more in touch with my shadow than I thought.

@stangreen4134

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, one person especially. A neighborhood guy that’s been fucking with me for 3 years… Drives out of his way and by my house every single day trying to intimidate me… A few weeks ago while I was at the movies with my youngest son he went to my house trying to provoke me into coming outside and fighting him… Except I wasn’t there, I was with my baby boy watching Spiderman no way home. My 20yo son was home… Had to listen to this guy outside for 15min drunk stumbling around threatening his dad… If he comes back and comes on my property I will deal with it… I am praying that he does. I want to deal with it but I won’t go to his house (a few blocks away, VERY QUIET neighborhood)… I will deal with it with God as my witness…. Then God can deal w/ me… I’m fucking done…

@SemperMaximus

2 жыл бұрын

This is common amongst all humans. Each individual has the capacity for evil inside them. The humans psyche has its roots in hell and the branches reach up into heaven. (metaphorically)

@BeBopScraBoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@stangreen4134 surveillance cameras and cops were made for this situation.

Richard Pryor visited a prison and said later- "Thank God for prisons".

@BeBopScraBoo

2 жыл бұрын

wow what a racist! i bet he's the type to use the n-word at will.

@mindhunter8772

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeBopScraBoo Are you joking or you're just Naive

@fearthehoneybadger

2 жыл бұрын

@@mindhunter8772 He was being sarcastic.

@tywinters9462

2 жыл бұрын

@@mindhunter8772 the fact you cannot understand sarcasm when you see it just shows how naive you actually are.

@thewiseman5948

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeBopScraBoo What does N word means. NIGER?

Honest self reflection is both one of the most important life skills, but also one of the most difficult to actually do. It requires you to accept the bad in you as well as the good and well all have the potential for true evil within us, it just takes the right set of circumstances for it to come out, if you do not exercise self control. Self control however can only come from honest self reflection.

@sloaiza81

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

Being honest with yourself will change your life immensely

I feel like this still mentality he speaks of at the start still lingers in Peterson . It's almost like "once and addict always an addict " but you don't need to always be addicted . Just acknowledge that part of you , and pay it some special mind . With the recent events in Peterson's life I think everyone could really reflect on this . Even if someone appears to have this authoritative intellect like Peterson , that doesn't make them immune to those pitfalls he himself is talking about.

@xXx_Regulus_xXx

2 жыл бұрын

that old cliche "physician, heal thyself" comes to mind

@veril394

2 жыл бұрын

It's true, Peterson has a lot of biblical/ general readings that are associated to this sort of thinking. This is fundamentally the biblical account of the gospel in the Bible. I see how in some of his recordings he painstakingly mentioned his views on religion and faith. Evidently this mindset is really the in-between of accepting the theology in Protestantism. And yet, it can also lead to a humanism if one is without hope.

For me it was the realization of what people could convince you to do and think. If you dont seek your own will even if its nothing at all.

@elmateo77

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes nothing is one of the worst things you can do.

@Hex-kt2vr

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't stand for something you fall for anything - also, when you aren't making your own choices, you're leaving everything up to chance.

I was watching a documentary on San Quentin when they had a group of lifers in a room who were in for murder. Rage induced. Out of about 20 men they asked each one how long it took from when they got angry to when they committed the murder. Each one had answers of 10, 20, 45 minutes, hour and a half. So the counselor said, "several hundred years of life sentences were created during about 3-4 hours of rage". And these were regular kind of working class guys who like beer, cheeseburgers and babes. It's amazing how just a few minutes can drastically change the course of ones life.

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

The impact of one single decision is hard to grasp

@stefc1289

2 жыл бұрын

I heard a wise man say once too: the decisions you make today will determine the choices available for you to make tomorrow.

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefc1289 very true

@toothdecay2465

2 жыл бұрын

We all have the capacity for the worst kinds of atrocities.

@davidhawley1132

2 жыл бұрын

But I don't think those acts of rage came from nowhere. They came from the person who lived and thought and felt for many years before they triggered on something.

I taught Special Ed for 27 years. I have always thought half of those kids are either dead or in prison. They had little chance of surviving or overcoming the environment they lived in. We have chosen to forget a huge portion of our citizens, the consequences will affect us all!

@Rafungilo

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the cold truth is that half of them do have a life and some purpose and only because we have created such a comforting danger free environment. You don’t see wild animals cutting the mentally impaired animals a break. There are no mentally impaired animals running the wild, because they didn’t survive the first week if even the first hour of their life. If we are neglecting any valuable resources in our society, they are indeed in prison but not due to their handicaps, it’s due to their extreme capacity for intelligent thought and lack of structure at a young age. We haven’t chosen to forget a huge portion, we have chosen to carry a huge portion and that’s a moral accolade we continue to improve on century to century. I’m sure you loved those kids and I’m sure they were very lovable, but the special Ed class is not the pool of citizens we need when speaking on innovation and value to society as a whole.

@Jelissei

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rafungilo "(...) but the special Ed class is not the pool of citizens we need when speaking on innovation and value to society as a whole." depends on your values, doesn't it? If you're an utilitarian, they add (almost) no value. If you're a humanist, they are the value. As are you and me.

@Rafungilo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jelissei yes that’s all sunshine and roses in theory but currently in our reality nearly every technological advancement was made by someone who was not mentally handicapped. There’s a couple of extreme cases where autistic people have found their calling. But the millions of other advancements wouldn’t have been made if something depended on the mentally handicapped. You can call yourself humanitarian all you want but your not going to get in taxi with a blind driver…. It’s not morally wrong to observe reality with a nonpartisan perspective. In fact it would be the most productive and humane decision you’ve ever made. Lieing to yourself and others because it makes you feel better about the cold world we live in is as selfish as it gets and counterproductive to say the least. Go ask that class why they didn’t invent high speed internet and perfect the thermodynamics that got us on the moon… they’ll probly tell you the truth, the don’t know how to and can’t learn how to. This doesn’t mean we should toss them all in a hole and walk away either. Fortunately we have the privilege to take care of these people because some of them will need help wiping their ass each and every day of their life

@Rafungilo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jelissei I define societal value as a resource used by the vast majority to improve their day to day task…. Any other value of mine is mine, yours are yours. But as a whole we share certain tools and ideas and that’s societal value

@Jelissei

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rafungilo tbh I'm not sure what you are actually trying to convey. Depending on the 'handicap' of a certain individual they can surely contribute to society at large. That mostly works if society has a framework for them to participate in. (utilitarism) Regardless though, imho every human (and animal) adds value to the world and should be treated initally with respect. Depending on their actions that respect may decrease of course. (humanism) The value of the former can be measured in numbers, the ones of the latter cannot. Both can be seen as societal values though. Both can work in conjuction. Am I misunderstanding you?

I experienced, or actually came to realise, this “split” only a few days ago. It’s been very interesting but also extremely frustrating because I’m realising I know nothing and that I have more resentment and arrogance in me that I could’ve ever imagined. I also feel somehow powerless. I can’t quite explain it. What a coincidence for me to come across this video exactly at this point in my life.

@LlibertarianGalt

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Marcus Aurelius

@polymloth

2 жыл бұрын

@@LlibertarianGalt Did he experience something similar? Or do you mean I should look into stoicism?

@LlibertarianGalt

2 жыл бұрын

@@polymloth Sorry I should have been clear, you should check out Stoicism to manage your resentment and emotions "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." Marcus Aurelius

@mkultra2456

2 жыл бұрын

@@polymloth Read some Carlos Castenada books about his experiences with a shaman named Don Juan. "Stalk your thoughts." Don says. Figure out _where_ these thoughts come from. The human brain is like a radio. It can receive signals. Case in point - Montauk Project/Project Phoenix II. And of course Project MKUltra.

@polymloth

2 жыл бұрын

@@mkultra2456 Sounds very conspiracy theory-ish but I’ll check it out thanks 😄

I miss these lectures by Peterson, I was able to see him live during the 12 rules tour and it was an informative and entertaining evening.

It's weird. People tell me a lot I am a good person. and I really don't think I am that good but when they say it, it kind of makes me sad because is the bar really this low?

@jonathanhall7903

2 жыл бұрын

Thats genuinely profound, Jonathan. I've been told the same thing many times and I feel...disingenuine much more.

@Consciousness_of_Reality

2 жыл бұрын

It is because people dont think what goes inside your mind.

@homeservices7650

2 жыл бұрын

I just respond with “I don’ t know, I’m trying ” takes a little of the sting out of it.

@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you haven’t been honest with those people by sharing with them the darkest recesses of your mind?. Whenever I meet someone new, I make a point of informing them that I’m not a particularly good person. I have never claimed to being a particularly good person. However, I’m not a bad person, just that I don’t do many good deeds, and avoid doing bad.

I understand. I am working on aligning my tongue with my thoughts and motives with the Lord. The book of James talks about taming the tongue. Amazing, Dr. Peterson! .

@thewiseman5948

2 жыл бұрын

Book of what?? ,,🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Seldomheardabout

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewiseman5948 I prefer the book of Jeff.

I need to hear this every day

Watch JP's hand movements in this. I find them spellbinding, adding this visually rich layer to what he says. Fabulous speaker.

very interesting points. Thanks for sharing this.

well. one thing I remember from criminal law class in college was that anyone is capable of anything under the right situation or circumstance.

Truly profound… There aren’t many people alive who have so many things to say that are actually worth listening to. Like all things that are ACTUALLY to one’s benefit, Jordan Peterson is severely undervalued.

"Looks like a highschool, which I thought was rather telling." Edit" I would like to add this may be most important point of this story.

As a former corrections officer, I'm flat out amazed they let you in there wearing that.

Fascinating

Truly great man.

I did have this thought once, the way to destroy the image you have of yourself is to figure out what you are willing to forgive. And knowing this could help other people enjoy your company for who likes a liar? If you can't forgive someone else for doing this act but can forgive yourself, you're a hypocrite. -1 If you can't forgive yourself but can forgive another, you're too forgiving. +1 If you can't forgive yourself and can't forgive another, you have a clear line. +0 If you can forgive others for doing it and forgive yourself, you have your answer. -0 And this isn't a test to lie on, lying to yourself is lying about who you are. And telling others would be meaningless because this is only a test to give yourself an answer.

I learned at 17 years old exactly what my mind was capable of convincing me was justifiable. I was wrongly accused of keying a car . That night I had to get out of bed and throw water on my face to break the chain of violent thoughts. It scared me. Completely shook me. I understood at that moment just how one thought feeds another feeds another until it's a compulsion that has to be carried out. I get how fragile control and restraint is. If I , the gifted smart kid , could lose control, with my brain power , how easy for the average person?. That was my arrogant egotistical intelligence at work as usual.

@HatelivesNextDoor

2 жыл бұрын

I can empathize here. I wonder if theres any correlation to events like this and peoples general perspective on life later on? Because by looking at both of our usernames. Im would put my money on yes.

@Seldomheardabout

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if you could focus that evil into something good. I have been in the loop before too my friend. I still remember the adrenaline.

@00TheD

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, your actually much less intelligent than you think. Most people discover that fairly early on.

“Cocaine is a helluva drug” - Sigmund Freud

@liamwilkins1332

2 жыл бұрын

hahahahahahahhahahahahahah

@OutOfElmo

2 жыл бұрын

And you can’t get it back.

@kenwickcook8413

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was Hunter S. ?

I love this story

You are not your thoughts- good or bad. You are not your body- good or bad. You are the awareness that sees thoughts and experiences sensations. You are consciousness.

Yeah, he make a good point, pushing and stress pushes anyone to a point we're they fight back, I laugh because my personality splits when I am drunk, freaks my fríends out. I know that part of my personality kept me Alive through hard times. Glad that side isn't need now.

10:00 this alignment is talked about by deeply committed Christians. When you apply yourself to morality, you undergo something of a tempering. It's excruciating. Ive failed multiple times and im not sure ive ever succeeded. But someone like, say, Paul, from the Bible, he did succeed. This has been the goal of Christians since before we had the bible.

I always tell people - the ones who claim to be incapable of doing bad things - are the most dangerous people. It is quite irresponsible to assume one can never hurt another, especially when an opportunity presents itself.

@BattleBladeWarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@Jay dilla You know, thats a very good point. I think they're trying to sell themselves on that, as much as the person they're telling. A lot of them are kind, with the assumption that they'll get rewarded, rather then just be kind on principle, and as you say, end up turning into monsters quite easily when that "kindness" is not reciprocated the way they want.

8:51 i have this ability but i tought (devoloped it purposefully) myself, perhaps its the most redeeming thing i view in myself. I summarize it as an unconscious ability to contridict myself so i may never hold a bias. And for it to be in my company since i spend far to many days alone.

having that split where you are being neutrally judging of what your mouth spits out is something I experienced, but had not done much about it. This is an insightful video for me to use that split for a purpose.

that back end of this video is called taking time to be self aware or having self reflection. Taking time to watch yourself, know thyself, and evaluate yourself. It is a good thing to be able to do that because then you can call yourself out on your own bs before someone else can, or at least be aware of your own bs and try to prevent yourself from believing your own lies if you tell yourself lies.

Really given me food for thought.

@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO

2 жыл бұрын

I’m forever thinking about food 🤣

Prison officers who get the reputation for fairness and compassion are sometimes punished into retiring early by making them work with sex offenders late in their career. It saves on the pension payout, has a way of screwing with their minds so they retire early. I'd imagine the burnout rate among police specialising in crimes against children is also pretty high.

@lifeisgood070

2 жыл бұрын

Punished by who? Why would someone be punished for being fair?

@bennyjetsaroundtheworld9047

2 жыл бұрын

Because in careers like private/public security sadism and sociopathy is rewarded. They're financially inventivized to brutalize people, if they go to far they get a 30 day paid vacation and the city pays put the 300k to the victim. They don't lose a penny they just move to the next province/state and start again.

Studying prison culture reveals the human animal in all of us, the tribal and territorial impulse, and it’s an insight into all culture. What’s often subtle becomes much more obvious in such a constrained environment. And far from turning you cynical, it can make you aware of the need to recognize these fundamentally coarse components of human nature and direct it for the better. In order to live refined we need something to refine.

@chickenmonger123

2 жыл бұрын

I think you have to understand what being a prisoner does to the animal too. An animal in a cage, is not an animal out in the wild. Even if it reveals the animal, that probably isn’t it’s natural form.

Truth is this man.

Is this recent? I used to love Peterson years ago when he uploaded his psych and philosophy lectures but he seemed to have gone through a serious change where he spoke(in my opinion) intellectually dishonestly and (imo again) clearly had something serious going on behind the scenes. This is the first lecture I've heard from in years that seemed genuine and insightful. Curious if anyone else noticed this or knows of any developments involving him recently

@elonif4125

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed that too.

@pony653

2 жыл бұрын

Mee to. I hope he doesn't take himself too seriously and go all Nietschze (insane, crying in the streets, defending a horse being whipped).

@Hex-kt2vr

2 жыл бұрын

"You either die a hero or see yourself become the villain" there is always a threshold of 'expectations' that build-up, and eventually, it shifts how a person thinks. Now he's trying to give us what he thinks we want to hear, not what we needed came for - reminds me of this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmiKpNONhsyrqJc.html We're all human, and the man has had his share of upsetting times, too.

@XTRABIG

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if him giving up greens and vegetables has something to do with it.

@lifeisgood070

2 жыл бұрын

I think like all people, peterson has flaws and blindspots. He’s smart, so you only see them occasionally when your own life experience hints at another more probable possibility. Imo it’s at least these 2 things: 1) he’s probably coming to terms with the possible end of his life. 2) the brain imo can either output or input not both simultaneously- at least not very well. Both change you neurologically. Thus repeating a thought, phrase, pattern, etc lends it more to become a habit rather than a purely intellectual exploration. Think religious zealots or vegan zealots. The key issue being fanaticism independent of topic. To summarize I think the potential repetition of interviews gets to him as he is forced mostly to defend rather than explain or implement ideas :( Those patterns could give any mammal difficulties. I sincerely hope there is someone that could take his place (his daughter imo is not it).

i always feel like i am actually evil inside, it's just the logical side of me stopping me from doing horrible things, which really scared myself...

Where is the full video of this presentation at??

That moment when jordan starts to describe the split you always had in your head..

It looks like there’s more to this video. Is there a link to a longer clip?

@lalakingo7

2 жыл бұрын

Not a longer clip that I know of but the entire video kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJt6zKRydre0ZZs.html

Every sentence is heavy with meaning and needs careful consideration. Thank you Professor Peterson.

@Kinghauler2012

2 жыл бұрын

Tell that to the media in this day and age.

Can anyone explain what JP meant when he says "stop saying things that make me sound weak"

"uncloistered virtue is no virtue at all," Milton Aeropogetica

9:00 The majority of people go into psychology to psychoanalyze themselves. Peterson discovered his motivations.

embracing evil is the only path to virtue

Jordon, I appreciate the road that God has helped you travel in your transformation into Christianity. I watch every video that I can of the ones you make and I recommend them to others. I would like for you to get the book Muscle and Shovel by Michael Shank and read it. I will send it to you free of charge if I knew where to send it. I would like your thoughts on this book and your concerns on the perspective which he views the different Christian organizations in religion.

Thank You

“I worked with a crazy psychologist”-that’s a redundancy, in my experience 😂

@ellkir1521

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that the most messed up people want to become Psychologist's because they can't figure themselves out.

The allegories of Jordan B Peterson are what followers of Christianity should come to expect from the clergy interpreting the Bible. Unfortunately, the standards for critical thinking and general intellect from this community don’t exist and it has become a failed form of education. I think this is why the religious community can’t argue for inherent value against a secular society. The value from scripture is in the stories and psychological guidance to relate to oneself, not a belief that these characters are real. The point should have always been to inspire critical thinking about the mistakes of characters in stories and develop a practical understanding of foreseeable consequences.

@brandtl1486

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Love this thought. I so agree. Couldn’t have said it better.

Multiple personalities,who are you the critique you know the core of your being what are your motives

You can’t say you’re a good person, only those that remember you can make that distinction

While I think that Jordan's self analysis is good, he appears to question himself in a way that makes me view him as a sad or unsure person with inner conflict, possibly best represented in one of his final statements "I'm not a particularly good person, I have to work at it". While I don't agree with all you say, I wish you all the best JP!

Seeing your shadow can be scary.

I realized pretty quickly in life, what depths of depravity I was capable of. And it scared the shit out of me at one point. Early on I reveled in it. Though I never sunk so low, I was angry and couldn't wait for the opportunity to do so. Somewhere along the way, something happened. I used to think it was drugs that altered my mentality. But recently I've been thinking back on the books I used to read. And one book in particular that my mother read to me as a young boy. Aesop's Fables. For whatever reason, even with my propensity toward anger and violence, I always related with the hero of the story. Which I gather, means deep down I really wanted to do good, and be a good person. Maybe that saved me. I'm not really sure though, even now, what it was that steered me away from the bad things. I honestly would love to have the chance to sit down with Mr. Dr. Peterson, though I gather I am not one of those wealthy enough to do so.

@michaelparker7831

Жыл бұрын

Well Joe, you and I both have the technology to be virtual patients with Mr. Dr. Peterson. Our personal struggles to fight the evil within and embrace our goodness is the primary struggle of all humanity. Our ability to persevere in this supernatural fight comes from the grace we ask for. Without it we will tread water until we sink. With it we can walk upon the water towards Him who beckons us.

@joeshmoe6930

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelparker7831 Sure hope I make the trek.

7:24 "There is a beast in man that should be exercised - not exorcised." (Anton LaVey)

Finally found a channel that does clips without distracting background music. 👍🏼

….. people are so impressed by the idea of an observer…. But ability to watch your thoughts and think critically about them is probably nothing more than one of the most raw survival mechanisms for a being that has nearly its entire worth in thought

I had a ruff spot in life that I was able to move past. During I I would do things that I never thought twice about. Looking back I clearly know they were defence mechanisms do to the situations but they weren't the best. I'm fortunate that I was never escalated because my life would have been changed for the worst. But right now I find it so easy to just look at a person and fall back into that past self but not mean a singal thing I'm saying because it will get the result I'd want. Now a days I use it as a way of humour and those around me see it as such because of the way I mean what I say, a dark sense of humour as it were. As easy as I can do that I can easily just look at what I'm saying and think I don't mean this. In many ways this way of becoming a better person has helped me in other ways though. For example if I'm around other people I can't be myself around I just change to fit the social situations. While thinking to myself I don't belive in any of this or I'm just acting this way to make them feel better. Now there are those I trust and i can be my self around, its relaxing. Usually I'm a very honest person and will now tell you how I feel about the given situation at hand. But dependent on the level of trust or Knowledge I have of the other person I keep certain views and thoughts to myself even if they ask for it.

There's NOT two selves, the actor and the passive watcher. Rather, it's just the capacity of the mind to self-reflect. When i look at my physical body in the mirror, there's not two of me. Likewise self consciousness doesn't mean that there's two minds. Just one me reflecting on my own thought.

How about the guy that is good because he is benign until he needs to become a protector? Is he weak or is he strong? Or monstrous?

@Seldomheardabout

2 жыл бұрын

People are oft not purely anything.

@ericharrison6418

2 жыл бұрын

@@Seldomheardabout correct. Very malleable depending on the scenario. Trust the person but don’t trust the devil inside them.

1890s Sherlock Holmes cape 🤣🤣 This is now my favorite Jordan Peterson story.

In Emmet Fox's, The Ten Commandments, he points out a translation error, where the commandments are not so much "shouldst not," but "canst not." That is to say, the realization in reading scripture is that thou canst not kill, meaning that you will not be able to resolve your inner turmoil through murder. Of course, in wartime there is a practical necessity of making that other guy die for their country, which clearly has nothing to do with murder, despite the confused individuals that might try to convince you otherwise. Margaret Atwood explained the underlying driving cause of murder in her novel, Payback (which expanded upon her Massey Lecture). Atwood showed a human pattern where, under a sustained experience of unfairness, an individual will be driven to violence. Getting back to what Fox was saying, you cannot kill the thing that is disturbing you. Instead, you must take upon yourself the aspect of an eagle, which when confronted by a storm, will rise above the clouds. I will take it one step further, that when you recognize the dark unfairness of a situation, you can visualize filling that darkness with unconditional love, which dispells the darkness and sense of trouble. Of course, in many of Peterson's lectures, he speaks to the need for being capable of violence, as a means of defending oneself from predatory behaviour. So let us be clear that, in the act of having charity of mind towards those that would harm you, there is the practical reality of being able to conduct war, should it be physical violence, or the petty cancel culture variety.

@eamonnmurphy5385

2 жыл бұрын

Interpreting the Bible is best left to the early Church and it's successors today, the Catholic Church.

@Vzzdak

2 жыл бұрын

@@eamonnmurphy5385 >> Interpreting the Bible is best left to the early Church and it's successors today, the Catholic Church. Pretty certain that early Catholics are dead. As Socrates said, there has been much talk of the afterlife, yet we stil wait upon someone to come back and verify the matter. Do you understand what a Concordance Dictionary is?

@eamonnmurphy5385

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vzzdak Do you understand what early Church tradition is?

@Vzzdak

2 жыл бұрын

@@eamonnmurphy5385 >> Do you understand what early Church tradition is? Yes, it's based upon Egyptian and Pagan principles. Guess you don't understand how a Concordance Dictionary is used.

@eamonnmurphy5385

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vzzdak I'm afraid you will need more than accordance to interpret scripture corectly.

Should've visited Atlanta back a couple of decades ago, some guy had their leg broke by the goon squad

Jordan Peterson use to wear a cape!! I DO NOT TRUST HIS JUDGEMENT!!!!!

@kenwickcook8413

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah… to a PRISON?!

@xhaltsalute

2 жыл бұрын

FOFL

"you are one bad day from being me"

There is no one who is good. That's why God sent His Son to die the death we all deserve vicariously, on our behalf. So that we could be acceptable to Him and able to stand in His presence and receive His righteousness as our own and not be the devils we are capable of being. This is the Gospel and it is the result of the Love and Grace of God that is available to each of us.

Dr. Peterson describing Socrates’ daemon

Me too

The religious allegory of the good angel (God's envoy) and the bad angel (Satan's envoy) over your shoulder is not so dumb as we might think. That conversation between taking the honest decision and the dishonest decision is the stuff of sleepless night. It might be said, --- and I think that Jordan Peterson is saying precisely this, here, - that that discussion is better for you the clearer it is. If both angels speak clearly and make their points with logic and integrity, then the decision-taking is more likely to be decisive and productive of advancement. In fact if that conversation could take place with audible voices and debating rules that diminish confusion and vicious name-calling, the free-will would be in much better hands. What is most damaging is when the debate is confused, inconclusive and scorching to ego. That leads to half-baked plans and shitty failures. A good thief is a thief who thinks clearly, and needless to say, a good person is a person who benefits from clarity of options. --- Just saying...

Violence is the chief authority from which all others are derived. Never forget that smarty pants!

@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you; for example the current lot that make up the British Establishment, are powerful and wealthy because of their ancestors controlled armies to wage civil wars against other factions and won, so their power can be traced back to hundreds of years

Jordan’s in his head so damn hard, you’re just being harsh on myself

I wonder why the little guy decided to spare him and separate him from the others to keep him from being harassed. Makes me wonder if he got bullied a lot as a kid and saw himself in Jordan in that situation.

Are you a good person capable of doing bad/evil things OR are you a bad/evil person capable of doing good things?

"regard yourself as a loaded weapon" that is an INCREDIBLE perfect statement. I have firearms. I don't even like seeing one left on my table just lying out and about. It makes me uncomfortable. I have them solely because they're a necessary tool. You should treat your dark side the same way. You don't celebrate your dark side but you know what, some times, it's the right time to bring out the claws. And you better be familiar with your claws so when you need them most you don't make a mistake.

The inmate that he was reffering to who killed the cops was Justin Bourque

I can't help but be reminded of the original trilogy (you know, the good one) of star wars. Ben Kenobi was good. Vader was bad. And Luke's own father was bad, almost as if he was birthed from evil and had its qualities. But in the end, Luke became the most powerful Jedi ever. whereas Kenobi fled from evil to a little hermit hut to hide away, Luke confronted his own evil (hence the very confusing "darth vader with luke's head" you-could-be-a-monster scene). By acknowledging his dark side, Luke became the most powerful Jedi ever. Yin and Yang. Black balanced by white balanced by black. He accepted his dark side and allowed it, carefully, to empower him. .... and then of course "Ray became super god or something who cares you'll pay to see it."--disney

Keep experiencing Mr Peterson. Few peopllike you possess humility.

How did this change him forever? Thank you for a response.

@tatt4music

2 жыл бұрын

It changed the way he thinks before speaking or writing. And that can be very life changing.

The Biblical concept of an inherent sin nature is far more reflective of reality than the humanist "inherent goodness of man" idea.

@rohmann000

2 жыл бұрын

why

@johntwinem301

2 жыл бұрын

@@rohmann000 I think because even the person whose life is most visibly, actively committed to good, if they are self aware, recognizes many strands of motives can drive those acts, many of them selfish. At least in part, this is why historiography has redrawn so many heroes as "complex" (a complimentary euphemism). I agree with Solzhinytzin's statement that the line between good and evil runs right through the human heart. But I am inclined to think that sin grows readily out of the autonomous self being for itself, while good is more likely to come from the outside (ultimately transcendent) and then shapes how we are toward the other. Rousseau got it wrong...and was unselfaware enough to not even know how horrible a person he was...though his five orphans probably figured it out.

@Seldomheardabout

2 жыл бұрын

To see life within the seed, now that is truly genius. -Lau Tzu

i was built as a fundamentally good person. in retrospect, mom built a beautiful boy that i turned into a vicious and ugly man out of a mistaken sense of necessity. im in my 40s and the hardness is fading as i finally understand my true nature and how that relates to the nature of others and the world.

I had a friend confess a killing to me , he was in prison , he wanted to make a name for himself there , and did so by having a certain person stabbed an attack wh I resulted in the other prisoners death , he was never found out as the other prisoners helped contaminate evidence ie they had about 30 other prisoners put hands on that shank . He is a free person today , but will never be free , what he has done will haunt him forever , he can flip at times and has flipped on me a few times and I tell him to take his medications when he does , he does have a lot of respect for me he always respected by work ethic , he was o e of those kids who,s parents had mom medicated for adhd from youth when he got older he got up on the meth trade , today he lives a life where he needs injection of anti psychotics , when he confessed to me it was no boast , he has tears in his eyes , you do not get away with anything , and this little guy you would never guess he had done that .

Jordan Peterson met St.Anger...

Weird... Had a phone call and when I came back... Apparently I paused it at 7:49... Anyways...

U close ur eyes and get up and look at all if them and u give them the only treatment that u can't get in trouble with God

I used to be a piece of shit till I went to prison and their I realized that I was chill compared to the real pieces of shit in their well found the keys to stay out never been back or in trouble going their freed me for ever

@michaelh.1262

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s ironic, because at my lowest I thought about going to prison for the benefits.

When I'm awake lol

I would think people are different in prison than they are when they are free. I think it's easy to be a good, responsible person. If someone is bad, then it's because they choose to be.

Psychopaths are a mirror to your own soul......

That wall is easy to break to survive

This is along the same lines as what Romans 3:10-11 says: "As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God." If we're willing to be honest with ourselves, we'll see that we're not good people. That's why we need the sacrifice of Jesus and the transforming power of the Holy Spirit.

all it took for me to realize I was probably capable of some malevolent acts was a few years of being pointlessly, relentlessly picked on as a young kid and then getting no help or even additional trouble from the inept school faculty.

My mother is nice and polite all the time and the dullest person I’ve ever known.

@billyaiello9022

2 жыл бұрын

What’s going on in her head that’s not being expressed? Surely something

@SemperMaximus

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to make progress towards finding truth, start by criticizing your parents. No human is by any means all peaceful and loving. Our psyche streches between heaven and hell. Thinking "my parents are good people" is just delusional.

@lisaschuster686

2 жыл бұрын

@@SemperMaximus, did someone say that?

@liamwilkins1332

2 жыл бұрын

oi mate dont talk shit about ur mum

@uncannyvalley232

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamwilkins1332 specially if she is nice and polite