How USSR Stole Wankel For KGB
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I had two 1970s RX-2s and they were such sleepers. They were tiny, but came with factory 4barrel carbs. My buddy put a 13B in his Datsun 510 and made a nearly perfect little sports car. Rob Dahm has shown how reliable and powerful they can be.
@vitordelima
6 ай бұрын
There was an attempt to certify heavily modified Mazda engines for aircraft due to their many advantages, including reliability, but in the end they couldn't fight the lobbying there.
@Low760
6 ай бұрын
Rob wasn't the first to show that, just that you're aware of.
@bendeleted9155
6 ай бұрын
@@Low760 Rob's predecessors don't have huge KZread channels to send the viewers here to either. Doesn't mean I'm not aware of them, young man.
@andrewsmart2949
6 ай бұрын
without turbos they are nothing special
@vitordelima
6 ай бұрын
@@andrewsmart2949And there are alternative to turbos such as oxygen separating membranes or injecting oxygen stored in some way (such as compressed or in some form of chemical storage).
my uncles friend had a rotary lada, it was the fastest car in the region, as long as it lasted.. later they had to put 1.2l inline engine there :D
@Chappomusic
6 ай бұрын
Did he save the Wankel engine ?
@buubised
6 ай бұрын
@@Chappomusic i dont know
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
Ты из Эстонии?
@buubised
6 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934 yes
@user-sp4gy7ko5l
6 ай бұрын
He must have used to wrong oil or just simply revved it too hard. Apex seals are a thing.
Late 21059 and the 90s rotary Samaras were available for civilians to freely purchase. The only issue was the price which was too high.
@Zirrex1
6 ай бұрын
last 21059 was made in 1995, and never was available in free sale.
@Random-nf7qb
6 ай бұрын
@@Zirrex1 USSR dissolved in 1991. And it was.
@Zirrex1
6 ай бұрын
@@Random-nf7qb где и когда можно было купить 59 машину? будьте добры…. И каким боком тут 91 год?
@Random-nf7qb
6 ай бұрын
@@Zirrex1 ну смотрите обзор от Иван Зенкевич. После распада СССР, ВАЗу можно было зарабатывать на что угодно. РПД не был какая-то секретная технология.
@Zirrex1
6 ай бұрын
@@Random-nf7qb проблема в том что я конечно видел много всякого про наши рпд, но при этом владею таким автомобилем и знаком с другими людьми из тематики отечественных рпд поэтому не по наслышке знаю когда и сколько было произведено каких моделей, где они эксплуатировались и что с ними сейчас. 59 машины выпускались с 87 по 95 год, произведено было порядка 50 автомобилей и все они были отгружены, спецслужбам и некоторым организациям напрямую связанным с автомобильной промышленностью, например у АМО ЗИЛ было две голубых чистокровных 59х 88 года с 411 двигателем. 79 и передний привод - да безусловно продавались. Сам лично в 2001 видел в алан авто роторную 99 по цене шестнадцатиклапанной десятки с допами.
World: "Wankel engines are unreliable" Mazda: "You're rotating it wrong" Interesting, I heard about these before. But I thought they sourced PSA BiRotor engines for this project, never knew they developed own ones!
@burschi9276
6 ай бұрын
PSA (also Citroen) got their rotor engines from NSU.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
Wankel engines are inherently unreliable
@bumpyroad3251
6 ай бұрын
That's why Mazda abandoned Wankel engines also... The Rx-8 was one of the most terrible resale value performance car ever.
@user-pn3im5sm7k
6 ай бұрын
@@bumpyroad3251Meanwhile the RX-7 FD go for over $70K now 💀
@RedLine_Renesis
6 ай бұрын
@@bumpyroad3251 Mazda never abandoned the rotary engine. Check mazda news and what its president has to say about it
I guess it´s more likely that the Soviets reverse engineered the rotary engine from an NSU Ro80, a German mid-size sedan from the late sixties.
I had a 1980 RX7, terrible on fuel, no tourqe at all, but smooth and tons of fun. Factory 4 barrel carb with manual choke and a 5 speed. The factory redline on the tach was not the top revs. There was a buzzer that would go off in the dash once the actual top revs were achieved. Still amazing engines to this day!!
@andrewsmart2949
6 ай бұрын
yeah they were nothing special without turbos
@zogzoogler
6 ай бұрын
and the user manual informed that it was a requirement to redline on each drive. recently sold my RX7 FB - light, fun and the smell of petrol. The scream of the rotary feels like 100mph then you realise that the person in the civic behind you wants to get passed as you are only doing 40
@SilvaDreams
6 ай бұрын
You forgot burned and leaked oil like a sieve. My father had one too, for as long as it lasted.
@nathanbateman1912
4 ай бұрын
I've got a 12a Bridgeport 83 rx7 and it's like a go kart, way too much fun not bad on fuel in my opinion
gotta love some Visio Racer with the morning coffee 😊
@pimmanders2261
6 ай бұрын
Or at diner, depending on where you live....😁
@fidelcatsro6948
6 ай бұрын
my cat loves u too! 🐱♥️♥️♥️
That was a stretch. Well into the dark underside of engine strangeness. Great clip
Great little motors, but I never knew about the Soviet ones. Cheers for another great informative video.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
Very unreliable and inefficient Motors, obsolete technology
@kzarnold3678
6 ай бұрын
I also thought it was just Mazda that used them in the automotive industry. I've heard about motorcycles and lawn mowers with rotary engines and even seen some you tubers getting a hold of those industrial single rotary and making go-carts or drift trikes
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@kzarnold3678 Mazda was not the first NSU-Wankel licensee to begin development or production. Mazda was restricted by the terms of its license agreement to only develop and sell engines for automobiles less than 200 hp.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@kzarnold3678 Aircraft engine manufacturer Curtiss-Wright was the first Wankel licensee followed by motorcycle, ATV and power tool company Fichtel Sachs, and Yanmar, manufacturers of marine, tractor and power tool engines.
And another great video,i had heard that they had a go at them but didn't realize they put so much effort into it .thank you
@touringweapon8651
6 ай бұрын
We have not developed the automotive industry for a very long time and the quality of oil in the USSR left much to be desired. With a strong unification of vehicles, it was simply impossible to contain a rotary engine. sry for my english, im used google translate
@Chappomusic
6 ай бұрын
@@touringweapon8651the former USSR has a very interesting history !
also we had some prototypes of rotary bikes, with completely different domestically engineered engines...And read about Vostok S-565 bike...and yeah, in the 90s rotary ladas were sold in small numbers. so this was beyond KGB. It was used by kgb as a result of failure of mass production because of engine and available oils quality - but it was fine for small series usage. and this V8 is NOT a cast iron engine,it's fully aluminium
@VerniteMoi2k17cuki
6 ай бұрын
Aluminum block, aluminum sleeves, aluminum heads. it was an innovation
Vaz-311 has more hp and torque then engine displacement which is impressive.
Just came home from a drive with my RX-8 and watched your video 😄 115‘000 km no problems yet 😁
@VisioRacer
6 ай бұрын
Long live the rotary!
@thx54
6 ай бұрын
@@VisioRacerYes! Long live the Rotary! ♻️❤
@fidelcatsro6948
6 ай бұрын
must be the fully synthetic castrol 2 stroke motorcycle oil
@davidhusband5022
6 ай бұрын
my rx8 had 198,000 kms on it, still going, original engine.
@thx54
6 ай бұрын
@@davidhusband5022i drove again and i watched wrong my RX-8 has 119‘000 km 😁 im confident to drive it much longer
Great stuff! Thank you!
Consumer cars of the GDR just used two stroke engines, the Trabant, and the more expensive Wartburg, and fitted with the same engine, the Barkas van. Small, cheap, light engines with sufficient power. In the early 80s, it was planned to replace these with Volkswagen engines. It happened just before the reunification of Germany. Production ended soon, 4 stroke versions of the cars mentioned are rare.
This channel always impresses me every time. My favourite channel by far ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for your work, comrade!)) Спасибо!
Always some new and interesting information, well done 👍🙂
Great video. very well done. cheers from South Africa
The 5,5 cast Iron v8 you are talking about which was in volga and chaika was all aluminium
The Soviet union IS like the Wankel engine - it's good while it's working, but then bucke up! Great video!
@Gr8thxAlot
6 ай бұрын
Of all designs to steal, they choose the rotary with all its inherit problems.
That's incredible... thank you for the video
Interesting video. Thank you.
6:47 engines on gaz - 13,14 were never cast iron (aluminium heads and block)
Very, very, interesting, another great, well researched video where I learn something new every Saturday morning. I would've never guessed the Soviets would've been interested in Felix Wankel's design! Keep up the great work.
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
Почему "советы" не должны были заинтересоваться разработкой Ванкеля?😅 В комментарии чувствуется сильное действие западной идеологической обработки.
@bobhill3941
6 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934 I was just as surprised that GM, NSU, and Mazda were interested in the concept, I wasn't singling anyone out. Why put Soviets in quotes? Russia was part of the Soviet Union at that time.
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
@@bobhill3941 OK, значит дело в неточности перевода...
@bobhill3941
6 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934 Yes it is, and that happens sometimes.
@WilhelmKarsten
5 ай бұрын
@@bobhill3941NSU invented the Wankel KKM57 Mazda licensed it from NSU now Audi
Interesting! Ty
My uncle drove such car on duty. By the rumors that was Vaz 2105, used around 1993-1995 in Minsk, Belarus. Externally that was stock RWD Vaz with pathetic tires and aerodinamics. He could spin wheels even on 110kph by throttling ungently. He reached the max speed of 220kph with 4 men inside, but with only driver max speed was 160kph, because car was loosing stability and attempted to fly. He won occasional drag races againts premium 4-5 liter Mercedes and BMW sedans of that time
One reason why the rotary engine was horrible on gas is the combustion chamber designed, but if you converted it to propane all the propane would be burned up; they have to make a little bit bigger combustion chamber in rotor.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
That is false, Wankel engines operate very poorly on gaseous fuels like Propane and hydrogen, they also lack the higher static compression ratios needed to extract the energy from gas fuel efficiently.
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
Please do not post false and misleading comments on a topic that you are clearly not qualified to discuss. The optimal fuel for Wankel engines has always been gasoline. Wankel engines are proven to be less efficient and unsuitable for alternative fuels
@Colt45hatchback
6 ай бұрын
While i have no personal experience, an old man who lived nearby to me when i was a kid had an autocross car, a mazda rx4 sedan running on lpg/propane, it also had the 'upper cylinder lubricant' injection system from a piston engined lpg car, but he used to put two stroke oil in it instead. That already old and neglected rx4 spent every weekend thrashing around autocross tracks right up untill 2009 without the engine being rebuilt, it only got replaced with a mazda mx5 once the rx4 was worth enough money that even in its rusty, beat up but mechanically still running state, it was then worth more than a stock na mx5, so he sold it and got an na mx5. He said the secret to its reliability was to start it in the morning and not turn it off till you were ready to put it back on the trailer in the evening. It was quite smokey when i last saw it. But it did still start relatively easily.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@Colt45hatchback Sounds like a batty old crackpot... sounds like the silly nonsense that happens in backwards country
The country that by that time had developed industry and engineering. It had a history of creating any kind of engine. Sophisticated radial engines, oposite engines, all sorts of configurations of two and four-stroke engines. Jet engines of all types, from airplane engines to tank engines. There were experiments on atomic engines and hydrogen engines. Various electric motors of all colors and sizes were used in industry. Sophisticated rocket engines were being developed and built. And then comes the concept of a simple internal combustion engine - well, no, of course they stole it, reverse-engineered it and copied it!
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
Что поделать, британская пропаганда...
The fun facts is that the Lada Samara with Rotary engine was pretended to run in Group B rally but the group B ended...
@visioracer hey did you or anyone notice at 8:09 there is a FKN huge meter wide rotary there putting an eccentric shaft in. Literally a rotor. Meter wide.... We need info!!!!!!!!
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
INGERSOLL-RAND pipeline compressor engine
USSR had stolen Wankel patents? For sure, you need a license for series production, but this is perhaps not so sure for prototyping. Patents expiry date is 20 years after publication. NSU patents of the unpractical original motor by Felix Wankel came around 1957... Wankel RCE has enough with an 80 RON fuel. Blessings +
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
No, East German company IFA became a NSU-Wankel licensee in 1965
@josega6338
6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Well, even if DDR was under USSR surveillance, the 'Einheit' day a group of Germans, drunk with beer, assaulted the soviet political police in Dresden, Putin, in command of that police station, went out, and shot in the air with a pistol. DDR no longer existed, the political police office of Putin was illegal, this was an attack to the sovereign German Federal State, but attempt of NATO to build a puppet state in Ukraine, and seize Sebastopol, the russian Pearl Harbor, is worse. Soviets may have purchased a Wankel license, but East Germany and soviet companies are different. License to russians is not license to East Germans, but Lada could contract development of their Wankel license with Germans. Statement that Wankel license was stolen is an slander, specially as no series production of Wankel seems existed in USSR. Blessings +
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
@@josega6338Much in the same way Northern Ireland is not an independent country East Germany was a territory that was part of Russia under the USSR government.
@josega6338
6 ай бұрын
@@WilhelmKarsten Northern Ireland is a part of Irish land seized by britons, UK is a nation having too many peculiarities, they had a woman as head of church, 'bishopess', banned in Saint Paul letters. The anglican church killed more catholic, for religious reasons, several hundred, than nazis in Poland, 108, and is very dubious reason for executions in Poland was purely religious; giving help to an enemy during a war is a criminal offense everytime, everyplace. In the conflict of Thomas Beckett with UK civilian authority, the King, in last times, the only disagreement Beckett kept was the church having the right to judge common criminal offenses by clergymen. Stupid, and against all law principles. Beckett was wrong. When UK joined EU, they were forced to derogate the british rules about contracts of sailors in merchant ships, it was considered some kind of slavery. I'd say 'Brexit' came from the desire of british industrials and traders to get rid of laws they thought reduced their competitivity, also not to give Europeans a control on them, felt as a reduction in sovereignty. Their choice of 'solo economy' is not viable; simply, they are on their shortcut to bankruptcy, today, no way back. Ukraine is part of Russia, that was founded there, Kiev is to Russia what Covadonga is to. Spain. Zelenski was criminal from start, they could never win the war against Russia, with or without the KGB agent Putin in Moscow, with or without the hebrew loans to purchase weapons elsewhere, same as protection to Zyon, the US govt debt will be filled in with loans, hebrew, in a monopoly financial business situation, instead of paying US armed forces for protection, will get money from US to cover debt. Devilish absurd! Being fed up of being misspised, zyonists claim. There are two serious hurdles to peace and development there: Holodomor Zelenski, he deserves execution, as Germans attempted Killing Adolf Hitler; and the temple of Lenin in Moscow. Sebastopol is the Russian equivalent to Pearl Harbor. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii was not an State in USA. Northern Ireland is a land seized with tirany and held with despotism, Ireland will go back to the Irish for the simple reason republican catholics have more kids than lutheran unionists, in the end they'll win elections.
@user-dh1dl2mc1y
6 ай бұрын
no stolen, but USSR bought patents
USSR stole wankel for KGB? Seriously? USSR did a first flight to space.
@user-gf3xl6ez2w
6 ай бұрын
it's capitalistic way to think than everything can be property,even idea.
"check out my engine.." ......."our engine"
When a company or country does not aquire a licencing agreement they must aquire an example product to reverse engineer. So the Soviets likely had someone purchase a Mazda rotary car or an engine from a wrecking yard. The problem with not perchasing licensing agreements you have to guess what makes it work. In this they got cheap and used cast iron rotor housings. These were heavy and did not wear well like the Mazda housings with a cast in steel.liner in the aluminium housing with a hard chrome plating. I do not think they got the apex seal material correct either. They also tried them in a twin amphibious aircraft for a short time, but engine life was poor.
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
The East German company IDA was an official Wankel-NSU licensee
Russian civilian: "why does that black Vaz sound different than mine?" KGB: "all Vazs sound exactly the same"
You forgot two Soviet Wankel motorcycles - VNII-Motoprom/Dnepr and Izh Vega.
I seem to remember a little reservoir for antifreeze something to do with cold starts?
Small correction tho, ZMZ 5.5 V8 was cast aluminum, not iron
I had no idea these were ever produced in the USSR.
Nothing surprises me any more with the Soviet Union. Those rotaries would have not lived long in the subzero temperatures!
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
Very short lived
Finally a video on Soviet Wankels
In the GDR MZ built an Wankel Motorbike Engine,but only as Prototyp Yo can see it in the MZ Museum Castle Augustusburg Near Chemnitz/Saxon/Germany.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
East German company IFA was a official NSU-Wankel licensee
sounds like a Yamaha 2stroke dirt bike on 4wheels and a roof!
My first car was a 83 rx7 wow that's one I wish I kept
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
What a horrible pile of junk...
Howveva...I didn't know the Samara got 140bhp! Always thought it was 120. Cheers
@robdahm yo bro.... Check out 8:09. Its a meter wide rotor and 5ft eccentric shaft!!!!!
Helped me win a car of the day hint game in one my car groups. Said car of the day tomorrow is a rotary and isnt Japanese or German and imidiatly thought to this video and i was right lol😂
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
The Rotary type engine was invented in France by Felix Millet in 1892.
They just make lada Riva's wheel spin monsters. Sticking genuine Webber carb's or even 40's dcoe or a single 45 shared between the 4 cilnders would of been better
Rotary engines get significant reliability improvements if you run them with two stroke fuel.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
That is completely false and a blatant lie. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and are less durable than reciprocating engines. Nothing you can do will change this fact.
I used to have a RX-7 1981 with the 12A engine.. loved that car man!
Those things would rev so hard they even tried to market a Holden Kingswood in Japan with a Wankel engine 😂 it was called the Roadmaster or something like that.
Lepienie cegieł. To szacunek do życia. Tak w życiu jest. Ślubowanie w drugiej kolejności.Dzięki Bogu.
Western oils couldn't even do 10,000km between oil changes back then not even in regular piston engines. I don't know if the USSR had lower quality engine oil
Ха, у коллеги как раз "догоняйка" таким двигателем. Вжаривает будь здоров.
3:42 that's a lion. They trapped a lion in there
@Galfrid
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, lumpy and throaty 🤣
Who needs torque or reliability when it sounds cool
@sandervanderkammen9230
3 ай бұрын
Because most people drive real cars... not video games
If only I could find one or a fiat 2.0 twin cam lol
Rotary engine in a helicopter is a very funny idea
@Damien.D
6 ай бұрын
After failing with the M35 prototype car, after failing with the GS "birotor" production car, Citroen built an helicopter too, that was not allowed to fly because it was so unreliable. Then they filled for bankruptcy XD
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
It's a very, very bad idea. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and are simply too dangerous to use in aircraft.
They should bring it back. Make a rotary that uses natural gas since now they can't sell that to the EU. 4:39 12k miles rebuild sounds about right? Because the early rotary are basically like a 2 stroke engine right, they need to use premixed gas for lubrication.
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
WHY? the Wankel engine is obsolete technology. Wankel engines cannot support the higher static compression ratio needed to run on Natural gas efficiently. All Wankel engines operate using the 4-stroke principle, oil injection is superior to premixing
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I'd like to see a Rotary Diesel. Is it possible ?
@goosenotmaverick1156
6 ай бұрын
I don't think the effective compression ratio required would be possible.
@Buzdu22
6 ай бұрын
Rolls-Royce apparently built diesel Wankels... RR gave up on the rotary, same as all but Mazda
@fidelcatsro6948
6 ай бұрын
sure you can!
@user-wn3ww5lw5j
6 ай бұрын
These things aren’t event reliable as petrol 😂
@TheLaXandro
6 ай бұрын
Wankels' compression is fundamentally limited by rotor geometry. A piston engine can have infinite compression if it wants to, but a wankel can not, and even if it could, wankels' core issue are the seals.
But did they register the patent in Eastern Block ? No patent, no license...
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
DDR was Eastern block
cool :3
0:09 - in USSR there were NO powerfull cars. People drove only Lada, MOSKVICH, ZAZ and Volga. Such cars as Mercedes or Buick owned only some Soviet famous sportsmans or artists.
A Dorito spinning in a Peanut. Worst sounding engine ever made.
is the sound mixing always so bad, I know that sound is a big appeal, but the badly mixed audio makes the video unwatchable for me.
Sovjet Engineering, steal everything, then make an half arsed effort to replicate.
Good ole fashioned dorito engine
no, thank you 1:58
VisioRacer you are a spy for having so much data on all types of engines 😁Maybe they also copied the Citroën M35 version and especially the twin rotor GS but the powers without turbo seem very important perhaps an exaggeration for Soviet propaganda
@Senezhperformance
6 ай бұрын
How could they use specs of militia-special cars for propaganda lol
Why u think kgb is not the part of japan, europe and usa?
A revolution? Pun intended? 😂
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
It Orbits.. In a distinctive planetary motion.
They could have it!
Я работаю в КГБ у нас такие сашины
Да . И Руси су усавршили ротакс мотор . Од ванкеловог мотора остала је само концепција мотора . Сада уместо овалног цилиндра и троугластог клипа има овални клип . Тиме су побољшани многи недостаци ванкел мотора .
@sandervanderkammen9230
3 ай бұрын
Rotax GmbH. is a formerly German company (Sachs) now based in Austria..
2004 was no longer Soviet Union, dude.
they burn out tips and use engine oil nice vid 👍👍
@fidelcatsro6948
6 ай бұрын
16litres to 100km and a lifespan of 50,000km if you lucky
*Зачем КГБ такие моторы и такие автомобили❓🤔*
Dorito
Like from Russia
They sabotaged themselves
i wonder if eamon hurley knew about the soviet 3 and 4 rotor engines when he started making them from 12A's he had from converting NSU's to 4cyl engines,he nearly died when his rotor powered drag race motorcycle crashed
Les mecs ont volé Wankil pour le KGB, quelle triste époque
Were they to poor to turbo them tho 😅😅😅
Just as Wankel drew it, Mazda and Autovaz produced it. Many dimensions are common on these engines, even interchangeable parts. However, Mazda went ahead and tried to solve the seals. So claim who developed the engine - wankel
@WilhelmKarsten
5 ай бұрын
Felix Wankel hated this inferior engine, the KKM57 was designed by Hanns Paschke and Walter Frode. All 26 manufacturers licensed the KKM57 from _NSU Motornwerkes GmbH_ they all received the same data package and sample engines.
Never knew soviets jumped on this farting boondoggle of an engine, following the madman path of Citroen (which also produced an helicopter that was so unreliable it was not allowed to fly).
@KitKitChanIsaac
6 ай бұрын
Hater detected
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@KitKitChanIsaac*Rotard detected*
@KitKitChanIsaac
6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Respect the rotary.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@KitKitChanIsaac FYI: the Wankel engine is inherently unreliable, obsolete technology and the biggest failure in the history of the engine manufacturing industry
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
Wankel engines are so horribly unreliable that the cannot be used in any certified passenger aircraft.
👍💪✌
Americans still. Russians buying.
Using the word "liquidated" for a former soviet company sounds a bit too ominous for my tastes.
Until this day I had no idea the USSR had Rotary Engines. It isn't a shocker that a) they stole it and B) had issues with Apex seals and the poorer quality fuel
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
А что такого? Когда у нас воровали изобретения, это никому не казалось ужасным
@marklittle8805
6 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934 what inventions? As for stolen, when is that ever right?
@rzhevsky4934
6 ай бұрын
@@marklittle8805 например, лампу накаливания изобрёл инженер Лодыгин в 1870 году, однако в англоязычных странах автором считается Эдисон. В России все, кто по профессии связан с электротехникой знает об изобретении Лодыгина, однако на Западе скрывают эту информацию от людей. Подобных примеров множество; большинство открытий и разработок, которые вы считаете "своими", создали люди из совершенно других стран
@otofoto
5 ай бұрын
@@marklittle8805 France stole Concorde 😂
The general public didn't generally have cars in the USSR . in 1985 private vehicle ownership was 45 cars per 1000 people
Чувак, советский союз первым запустил спутник на орбиту, первым запустил и приземлил животное и человека, первые фото обратной стороны луны сделал, спустил туда луноход, на Венеру дрон спустил, космическую станцию на околоземную орбиту запустил и запустил дрон на Марс. Это было государство которое могло все. 40% самолетов в небе были советского производства. Роторный двигатель делали сами. Идея ничего не стоит. Решает исполнение.
@otofoto
5 ай бұрын
And stole Concorde to be first. But never managed to produce toilet paper or decent cars 😂
about the Soviet rotor is a separate story of failure (because they were in a hurry and did not listen to the specialists from the Mazda company and State Research Center "NAMI")
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
Mazda was not licensed to export the technology
A stolen Japanese engine design in a faux Fiat: brilliant
@WilhelmKarsten
6 ай бұрын
East German engine design
@Senezhperformance
6 ай бұрын
In a licensed fiat, yes
Police car
7:27 Great Soviet thinking: If you have an unsuccessful car engine, just make it an aircraft engine! No danger there. The engine was obviously a ripoff of Mazda's engine.
@Damien.D
6 ай бұрын
Citroen did the very same before, after failing at producing a wankel powered car, they've built an helicopter that was legally not allowed to fly.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
Mazda purchased the technology from NSU Motorenwerke GmbH. Who invented the Wankel KKM design
@andyharman3022
6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Mazda's first successful engine was basically a scaled-down Curtiss-Wright RC2-60. Curtiss-Wright was Wankel's first licensee in 1958.
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@andyharman3022 No, Mazda became a NSU-Wankel KKM57 licensee in 1960. Mazdas first Wankel engine was the NSU KKM400 (Mazda 400 [ aka 40A ])
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@andyharman3022 The RC2-60 is a massive 6.0 liter engine (tax displacement 2.0 liters same as the Mazda 20B) Mazda's 400 (40A) was a tiny 2.3 liter (772cc's tax displacement) Same as the NSU KKM400.
Not good…⁉️👊🔥
Wankel hehehehehehehe
Why do people call the Wankel a rotary engine? Look at old planes, a rotary is an entirely different thing.
@SuperMatiz
6 ай бұрын
in polish can be heard term "silnik gwiazdowy" ("star engine", but looks like it have to be translated "radial engine")
@CathodeRayNipplez
6 ай бұрын
@@SuperMatiz Radial and Rotary engines look the same almost, they way they function is what's different.
@chrisridethatbloodything2044
6 ай бұрын
In german it's "Wankel" or "Kreiskolben" (circle-piston) A rotary engine is a "Sternmotor" (star-engine) ;-)
@WilhelmKarsten
5 ай бұрын
@@chrisridethatbloodything2044Wrong _Sternmotor_ means RADIAL _Umlaufmotor_ is the German word for ROTARY engine