Turret intact 🤣🤣 are these people living in a dream world

You can tell by the mantle, the fireplace, and the bookshelves. This guy means business.

@evifiouri4712

7 ай бұрын

You forgot the tie!

@touchingthecloth

3 ай бұрын

...and the pomposity

These British brass are just second to none. Utterly shorn of hyperbole, they're so convincing. And riveting.

@icekidtvshorts4504

7 ай бұрын

Very true 😂

@sayitasitis100

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s called verbal flatulence, glad you like them.

@markhepworth

7 ай бұрын

@@sayitasitis100🤡

@Mugdorna

7 ай бұрын

​@@sayitasitis100The OP refers to the opposite of verbal fllatulence

@Withnail1969

7 ай бұрын

Convincing? I wouldn't say that.

It was the cornet that destroyed it, not the mine

Kate Gerbeau, you're really the best interviewer. You ask all the best questions, you listen carefully, you let your guests answer properly, and you follow up with questions that are completely relevant and on-point. I find other news interviewers annoying, such as the way they interrupt constantly or repeat irrelevant questions, but not you. Everything you do is slick and professional. You show genuine interest in what your guests have to say and you develop a good rapport with them, getting the very best out of your allotted time. I always watch your interviews from beginning to end because they are a pleasure and I gain from them. Thank you, and please don't ever stop your fantastic work!

@abatesnz

7 ай бұрын

Kate *Chabot* - agreed otherwise.

@sagebiddi

7 ай бұрын

Well I'm glad it's strictly admiration for the professionalism and not just a bunch of hyperbole trying to hide one is smitten with this human

@mikedevere

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Just said the same thing then saw your comment 😅

@mikedevere

7 ай бұрын

​@@abatesnzGerbeau is correct

@abatesnz

7 ай бұрын

@@mikedevere nope.

i was in gulf war 1 in the same armoured brigade as this man , i was a gunner in a warrior , i watched our challenger 1s annahalate dozens of iraqi t55s within minutes , pretty sure i heard hamish on the radio looking for "more sport" at one of the battles ... hes a good guy

@zhufortheimpaler4041

7 ай бұрын

Irak didnt have T-64´s.

@dpelpal

7 ай бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Not after the british tankers were done with them lol

@zhufortheimpaler4041

7 ай бұрын

@@dpelpal T-64 was not exported to Irak ;) The Irak did have T-55A, T-62 T-72A (export model from 1975), T-72M (export model from 1980) and T-72M1 (export model from 1982).

@AAWT

7 ай бұрын

@@dpelpal zhufor... is right. Iraq never received the T64, as it wasn't exported until 1991 (and even when it was, it was only exported to neighbouring countries of Russia - and that happened from 1991 onwards, when the Soviet Union no longer wanted to supply the West's enemies with arms).

@Davo-007

7 ай бұрын

​@@zhufortheimpaler4041Too many youtube warrior's get this wrong but the Iraqis in 91 where mainly equipt with T59s which is the Chinese varient of the T54/55. And yess I'm pretty sure because I crewed Challenger ones in 4th Armoured brigade during Op Granby or Gulf War one. We was Royal fusiliers battle group MBT support and the T59s are what we engaged and we also brought two back for trophies. One ended up at home HQ Preston but now removed.

I have noticed that some people have the "titanic" mentality when it comes to western tanks, that "the ship cannot sink!" stuff. Even if it is the best tank in the world it can be destroyed, but it did what it is supposed to do, the crew survived and can live to fight another day.

@HungryGhost999

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

@willymueller3278

7 ай бұрын

You want to say, if a russian grenade, a missile a drone or a rocket hits the tank from above, those people inside that tank survive, and continue to fight ? Are you kidding ? That tank exploses, and the crew gets destroyd in a million peaces, it won' t hurt, they do not even realize, that in a fraction of a second, they are dead. 😉

@Narjoso

7 ай бұрын

@@willymueller3278 what the f**k are you talking about?

@cataraxis-jn9fu

7 ай бұрын

Crew survivability from major tank damage is a thing, it is a priority of western design philosophy.@@willymueller3278

@pliashmuldba

7 ай бұрын

ANY tank is just a metal tin, that you will find there is a very large chance of dying inside, though the dying part are different levels depending on the tank, but then lets just say at least a very big chance you will be walking on the battlefield soon. So you should use these right, which i think today, sans air cover, you do not want to get near action without artillery peppering positions in front of it. CUZ you do not want to be engaging fortified AT positions and artillery, so those guys have to be forced into their holes so its just tank on tank, where it should be no problem. First batch of Danish L1A5 tanks arrived in Ukraine today, many - many more to come.

It hit a mine and the fuel tank caught fire,then the russian drones found it and started bombing it.. However the crew did survive.

@benachiesween

7 ай бұрын

The man is a joke.

@tonupharry

7 ай бұрын

So did the tank but it needs some new paint

@leftfootforward1040

7 ай бұрын

​@@cosmicdebris2223did you listen to the interview?

@irdorath356

7 ай бұрын

Nah, there is video of it being destroyed. It was an ATGM frontal hit. A oneshot.

@leftfootforward1040

7 ай бұрын

@@irdorath356 where Is this video

Excellent interview as always by Kate and Times Radio, thank you.

@linmal2242

7 ай бұрын

Second that !

The only reason that the British have held on to the rifled gun is because they use HESH. The smooth bore 120 has a higher velocity and can fire more effective rounds than HESH. The Challenger 3 will have a smoothbore and will be able to use NATO 120mm ammunition

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

7 ай бұрын

The rifled barrel has greater accuracy over distance.

@suburbia2050

7 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg(Edit though the OP was saying smoothbore was more accurate!)... No it doesnt, that just relies on the ammunition itself being able to stay true, of which are many strategies

@johnc4224

7 ай бұрын

​@@suburbia2050 "Rifling of the barrel imparts spin on the projectile, improving ballistic accuracy. The best traditional antitank weapons have been kinetic energy rounds, whose penetrating power and accuracy is greatly decreased with the loss in muzzle velocity at extended range."

@michaeldenesyk3195

7 ай бұрын

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@michaeldenesyk3195

7 ай бұрын

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Commander Gordon is showing the best of Brits, humble, knowledgeable and competent. I appreciate a very good explanation how tanks in Ukraine acts. Slava Ukraine

@user-vn7hb8yv2v

7 ай бұрын

Yeah he’s good , he’s great on the telegraph daily Ukraine the latest podcast too , he’s usually on about once a week talking tanks

@Hansford232

7 ай бұрын

I agree

@dessmith7658

7 ай бұрын

Delusional aswell

@alka7145

7 ай бұрын

@@blaze7726 ha ha ha

@luciusesox1luckysox570

7 ай бұрын

A long with all your braincells @@blaze7726

The turret has popped off a bit, meaning there was an internal explosion. I don't agree it will be back in action.

@robert100xx

7 ай бұрын

If recovered. It can donate many spare parts.

@augustinbelza2418

7 ай бұрын

I would expect that the bag charges (filled with cordite) burnt off inside. These would not explode, due to storage, as Russian tanks do but would rather have burnt like a massive blow torch. There would have been enough force to displace the turret and would have caused considerable damage inside. Recovery and rebuild, if possible, would be a workshop job.

He forgot to mention the tea kettle, it would not be British if they could not brew up on the go would it.

@sigis72

7 ай бұрын

not one, but two!

@free_gold4467

7 ай бұрын

Two? That's class.@@sigis72

@FishandHunt

7 ай бұрын

Can't go into battle before a nice cup of tea 😂 Greetings from Australia to all our pommy friends.

@scpgaming-452

7 ай бұрын

cornet vs challenger-2 : boom

@iainlyall6475

7 ай бұрын

@@FishandHunt back at ya ozzie :-)

Thank you "Times Radio" for great variety of interviews, great insight into thoughts of experienced professionals

@m.dekleijn762

7 ай бұрын

Thing is, it’s always one sided - Ukraine is progressing and they will make it. I’m missing the critical interviews on the current situation not based on the deep state map and Ukrainian war PR dept. I hope they will break te stronghold in Robotnje, but the Russians have reinforced heavily. I’m afraid that the remaining 4 brigades will run out of boots and material.

@bigoldgrizzly

7 ай бұрын

Great to get the info based on actual long term experience and knowledge of the contributor, rather than from an 'armchair general'. The time for using the tanks in greater numbers is nearly upon us and the differences in tank and crew quality will be clearly visible. Slava Ukrayini

@myhoose90

7 ай бұрын

Even though most of it is wrong anyway 😊

@dessmith7658

7 ай бұрын

The sunset times

@Ridethebomb777

6 ай бұрын

Who are trying desperately to keep Ukraine relevant and in the news as Israel takes the lime light ... and all the money ! Fall has arrived in Eastern Europe ..... the counteroffensive was a complete failure ....... Ukraine is done. These buffoons are just waffling on for a pay check ..... they know Ukraine is finished.

Great guest. Always good to hear from people that so obviously know what they're talking about.

19:46 You mention that the Abrams has a steering wheel. When I drove an Abrams (1985, Fort Hood, Texas), it had a motorcycle handle bar. The right handgrip was the accelerator just like a motorcycle. There was one pedal on the floor - the brake. Your point is very valid about training Reservists and National Guard because almost any soldier who ever rode a motorcycle can drive an Abrams. The unusual thing is instead of hearing a "Vroom, vroom", you hear a jet engine gradually increasing its whine.

Hamish was excellent on his narrative. He is also a NBC warefare specialist for the MOD. A very clever talented man and a great asset to the protection of the UK.

@airhabairhab

7 ай бұрын

A Great asset for delusional sycophantic propaganda! He is so emotionally invested in his narrative that he cannot conduct any impartial analysis.

@gurglejug627

7 ай бұрын

I think you mean 'what's left of the UK'? Birmingham, second city, has just declared bankruptcy if that tells you anything.

@robert100xx

7 ай бұрын

@@gurglejug627 Have you noted the russian economy? exchange rate of rubble? (deliberately misspelt)

I was a CVRT instructor / driver [family of spartan / scorpion etc.] and on exercise in the early 80s was given a chance to drive a much older 432 [British version of M113]. The old M113 was a dream to drive compared to the Sultan i operated.

The video of those Challengers, driving around, reminds me of early episodes of Dr Who, when the BBC could only afford 5 or 6 Daleks. The Daleks used to drive through a door, then go out of a different door, before re-entering the same set again and again, to give the impression that there were hundreds of them.

Just something to add, im pretty sure the challenger 2 did blow up as redeffects analysis showed the turret had popped and was no longer in the correct position

@rtzx12570

7 ай бұрын

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Frontline with Kate Gerbeau always delivers insightful and interesting interviews with a range of expert guests. This was another great example of a well informed and enthusiastic expert and able to put this across well. Of course Kate Gerbeau allows that by putting them at ease and asking the right questions to allow the guests to explain and expand.

@philip5940

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I listened all the though for this video. There's plenty videos where I depart before the they finish.

He forgot to mention the most important secret part of the Challenger ger: the hot water station to brew a cuppa or to heat food 😊

@peteartis9694

7 ай бұрын

Imagine sitting in T72 with no heater in the Ukrainian winter!

Hamish didn't spot that the turret had popped its turret ring. If you look at the photo of that tank the turret is not aligned with the hull, it's at a slant, which means the drone or 152mm laser targeted shell popped the challengers turret. That's a dead tank, and if the crew had been in there they would be dead.

@alganhar1

7 ай бұрын

Not necessarily, as I have said before it will depend on the damage to the turret ring and the gearing. If they are still alright then its probably repairable, though the question would then be is it worth repairing it? If those things are badly damaged, then yes its a write off. We do not know how bad the damage is, could be either.

@CyrilSneer123

7 ай бұрын

@@alganhar1 Worth repairing? the tank is 75 tons, they need to recover it first - it requires a specific recovery vehicle designed for it to go through a minefield under enemy fire to recover it. The tank is dead.

He must be a sales man for the challenger tank or he's not been keeping up to date how things has moved on as last 20 years

Very impressive and articulate man. The best of British

@markhepworth

7 ай бұрын

Just British 🤷‍♂️

Great show - very interesting hearing about the Challenger 2 tank 😮

@delta7554

7 ай бұрын

yes it is expected to lose some as, hey this is war but the main difference with ours is the crew has a high chance of surviving whereas the Russian tanks unfortunately for their crews it is the other way around and Russia is showing it with losses of crew and having to pull out older models from storage and museums.

@eddapultstab2078

7 ай бұрын

​@@NzTingsthey don't need to, they can affect the front lines right were they are.

@eddapultstab2078

7 ай бұрын

@@NzTings you'd be surprised trollbot

Listen I live the challenger 2 but that tank is done for you cant recover a tank with ammunition that has cooked off and the turret has popped off. That’s ridiculous

Once again, if Ukraine had the air cover they repeatedly requested, use of armour could then be truly used as part of a combined arms operation.

@gregvoight8616

7 ай бұрын

Glory to Russian forces 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@davidkamaunu7887

7 ай бұрын

If Ukraine had the air cover they requested…then the UK and US elites would have the war they deeply desire with Russia and the world as we know it would be destroyed…

@leswatson

7 ай бұрын

Ha, ha, well they are all going to "glory" whether or not they want to.

@paulroustan3643

7 ай бұрын

Seriously have no idea, combine arms is an out of date tactic, air defences systems will destroy any aircraft that’s doesn’t map the earth, and when mapping the earth there so few ordinances that can be used, so they are nowhere near effective. Any force that’s gather at a staggering area are usually discovered quickly and taken out by artillery or drones. Drones has change military tactic forever, drones has made old military tactics obsolete, not to mention water drones will have on a surface fleet, aircraft carriers are finished. If F16 would be affective in Ukraine then we would have seen them Delivered by now

@peterwaine923

7 ай бұрын

Give them f16, they will be blown out of the sky in the same way Ukraine’s last airforce was blown out of the sky.

GREAT INFO! Love this show, with Kate and Hamish! God Speed 🎁

I was a Calvary scout in an American tank battalion 58 of those bad boys.. There phenomenal in the right hands

There is no substitute for earned expertise. Thank you for this information. As someone who can not distinguish on tank from another, I now have a descriptive understanding of what the different tanks can mean to Ukraine. That's useful... Really, thank you...jt

Kate’s interviews are conducted in such an informative manner.

the HESH round the UK uses is awesome and it has amazing capability even at extreme distances. Given the penetrative capabilities (oooh missus) of modern ATGMs and Tank rounds there is little to nothing that can stop tanks being damaged. The fact that the crew got out is a testament to it's design.

@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl

7 ай бұрын

Any tank is just a tank. We shouldn't overestimate what they can do, given the circumstances there, and not underestimate what the Russians have to fight them. For the crew, I rather would sit in a Challenger or Leopard when hitting a mine, or being shelled, than in a T-72. For sure! After all these analyses, how useful western tanks are, the main obstacle are the huge amount of mines. Mineclearing equipment is even more helpful than any tank or IFV's. Reconnaissance is the most important to detect and clear the frontline from mines (anti-tank mines). Ukraine needs drones with IR sensoric and, besides mine clearing vehicles, maybe cheap drones which are able to detonate those mines. Idk why such drones not already exist, 500g C4 should be enough for a mine. A 300-500$ suicide drone (inclusive cheap optics/IR head) would be very useful when we can save a tank and crew.

@OGUNite

7 ай бұрын

​@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl you see 100% right and people forget you can always replace or repair a tank in weeks but it takes 25 years to actually replace the experience you lose in the crew. The West "Weapons Supply Issue" is somewhat hyperbolic in there are plenty of systems that can be pushed into service. In functional but degraded mission capable states which are classified as deadlined and none operational

@TorianTammas

7 ай бұрын

@boanerges5732 - Eleven is the problem. It does not matter how good something is when you have it in such little numbers it is not where you need it.

What a joke. These tanks won't get within a country mile of being able to shoot at a target before they are destroyed.

Fantastic interview. Kate is one of the best interviewers around & it is always great to listen to Hamish.

T-14 Armata has BETTER stealth than any other. Nobody has ever seen one in combat.

He seems like he really knows what hes talking about. Not one of these individuals sitting on his couch Trying to give an opinion they know nothing about The gentleman Being interviewed Is well informed. Thank you very much.

@andrewwong8932

7 ай бұрын

No, he actually got some of the facts about the tank. It was describing wrong, which is pretty hard to believe he’s an expert.

@alganhar1

7 ай бұрын

@@andrewwong8932 Who are we supposed to believe. You, or someone who spent 24 YEARS commanding Challenger II's?

@andrewwong8932

7 ай бұрын

@@alganhar1 That man is being paid to share his opinion do you think the financial incentive has any influence on his opinion, if he offered an opinion that was Counter to the times radio’s perspective do you think that he would continue to receive payment?

@piotrd.4850

7 ай бұрын

Except he clearly doesn't.

@piotrd.4850

7 ай бұрын

@@alganhar1 Facts. And fact is, that Challanger 2 is in many ways INFERIOR to other western designs - starting with engine power. He equates Russian and Ukrainian tanks with early T-72 he foughts - when in Ukraine most vehiles involved were T-64/T-80 line (better half I'd say). He misrepresents facts drilled into every tanker in the bootcamp - but for that, you'd have to have comparision of both lines of tanks and how it influences usage (like Poland transitioning from T-72s to Leopard 2). Oh, and the airpower and artillery made most fighting for him :D

There will be an extreme amount of effort put into recovering that Challenger 2 and returning it to service. If it is possible, it will be so.

@martyn4501

7 ай бұрын

It will be hit again. Or RF might eventually put it in Patriot Park/

@properjob79

7 ай бұрын

@@martyn4501 cry more

@alvarosantos78

7 ай бұрын

The UK should send another 15 just to shut the ruSSian clowns.

@martyn4501

7 ай бұрын

Of course the tank and surroundings needs to be checked for any radioactivity. The tank may sit there for a while, perhaps not.

@leftfootforward1040

7 ай бұрын

​@@martyn4501hey ivan how many t90 have been taken out? Hopefully the challenge 2 was able to contribute many russ losses on oryx before it got hot slava ya mama

Outstanding expert, a credit to his military and country...keep talking to this guy!

Fabulous! Your team have sorted out the rather disconcerting framing and now your channel has oodles more cred! Always loved the style and approach, always hoping that the headroom would improve Cool!

Just a scratch The tank was heard shouting come back and finish me off

Really interesting! Thank you, Mr. Gordon for your accurate informations and for this interview and video. Vive l'Ukraine et le Royaume Uni "Un tyran n'est grand que si on s'agenouille"

@DS9TREK

7 ай бұрын

Fwiw, he's Mr de Bretton-Gordon.

@philippefalque9916

7 ай бұрын

@@DS9TREK Thanks and my excuses

@nikolasanitsakis2003

7 ай бұрын

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One thing i am particularly concerned about is all these mines staying in for decades after the war

Hope to see the Chally's on a thunder run....very soon!

@gregorylayne9044

7 ай бұрын

Me too.. the Russians too.. but I don’t the the Ukrainians are to keen on that idea.

@andrewwong8932

7 ай бұрын

The vehicle in question was destroyed before it made it to the line of contact, the thunder run means moving within enemy control territory. Without obstruction, Ukrainian vehicles are getting destroyed as soon as they move out of cover.

The only real minor issue I have is that the Government upped the number of tanks to be delivered from 14 to 28 gun tanks (plus armoured recovery and other support vehicles) a couple of weeks after the first announcement. Is it just the case that the second half of those promised deliveries have not been made? I assume at least some of them would have required at least some level of refurbishment? Or was it an honest mistake? If it was a mistake I do not think it was anything other than an honest one, the rest of the interview Hamish was superb. People make mistakes sometimes, even in our expert fields. I once got the taxonomical name of a species I had worked with for over a decade wrong every time in an hour long lecture once. Fortunately I at least spelt the name correctly on the slides! So I am not going to crucify people for honest mistakes.

Some people are very upset about tanks getting destroyed, and I think they need to adjust their expectations. We sent the tanks to win the war, we didn't send them for a picnic.

@Texas240

7 ай бұрын

The average life expectancy for a European front tank crew, during the Cold War, was 2 hours, if Russia turned it into a hot war. Of course, in that time, it was figured that each tank would or should remove 10 Russian tanks. So, with Russia actually playing out that hot war in Ukraine, our Western equipment is lasting much longer than what was predicted against the Soviet Union. And, despite what the bots might try to say, Russia is all in on Ukraine.

The 28 minutes of this broadcast explained to me , more about the use of tanks on the modern battlefield than all the other broadcast I have listened to since the beginning of the war in Ukraine. Interesting and informative. Well done.

@SpaghettiFPV-tg3qh

7 ай бұрын

Their used as scrapheaps for FPV drone strikes lol

@dougalmaguire2357

7 ай бұрын

Almost like it was a thinly veiled advert for challenger tank propaganda

One tank isn't a big deal, and the crew survived. Which is key. You can always get another tank, but trained crews take a lot of time to train up.

@suspiciushomer5909

7 ай бұрын

Ukraine has only 14, or well 13 now challanger 2's thats almost 10 percent gone in one battle.

@billalumni7760

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it is when you only have 14 TOTAL.

@suspiciushomer5909

7 ай бұрын

@@billalumni7760 that's litteraly what I said

@Craig-fl8jj

7 ай бұрын

Easy to get another tank when the citizens of another country are being forced to pay for it.

@Craig-fl8jj

7 ай бұрын

​@@suspiciushomer5909nope they lost another one today

Hamish has become a favorite analyst of mine through this terrible war. He actually called the M1 Abrams rather than Abrahams. Every other interview has gotten the name wrong. Well he got the name right twice.

@Tim9999999991

7 ай бұрын

he is clueless.

@johncraig4820

7 ай бұрын

​@@Tim9999999991He's rubber your glue.

@glennbateman4483

7 ай бұрын

​@@Tim9999999991the Russian bots are worried

@Tim9999999991

7 ай бұрын

He states quite a few falsehoods, the challenger has no blowout panels, its really not some super weapon. He states it looks barely damaged and can be repaired where its clearly completely burned out and the turret is off the ring from the explosion. He states that russians dont use camo (???) try even the most basic google search of t90m ukraine to see thermal blankets and camo. Im a brit, just tired of people like this guy who are disconnected from reality. Its just a tank, they are likely all going to get blown up and get nowhere near crimea.

@kevinherlihy9471

7 ай бұрын

They are rather easy to spot these days, aren’t they. (The Russian bots)

Heard this dude few times on telegraph Ukraine the latest. He talks a lot of sense. Not military here and can't think anything more scary that rolling into battle in a tank. Total respect.

@chadhaire1711

7 ай бұрын

this guy is a loser and liar....Russia has 11,000 tanks and 750,000 men....Ukraine has 100 tanks on the way and out of 65,000 men lost 45,000 in 3 months.....

Kate, you're doing a fine job interviewing these experts. You are well-prepared with pertinent questions and excellent follow-through. Keep up the good work.

For those who don't know when the general said he was from "Public school" that means upper class private school, probably a boarding school with a second to none education...in the UK public school means private school.

"Operating at night and remaining mobile" all very well until you find yourself in a very heavily mined area - which is obviously what did for this Challenger.

Best video I've watched in ages. Slava the challenger !

Your capacity for self-delution is astonishing

In 1972 I got to drive an M60 at Indiantown Gap, PA. It was simple to use and was like driving a big car since it had a steering wheel. The M113 armored personnel carrier was also easy to drive even with levers instead of a steering wheel. To Mr. Gordon's comment, I think that America builds for simplicity and purpose.

@1LEgGOdt

7 ай бұрын

No we build to protect the crew

@Karlthegreat84

7 ай бұрын

@@1LEgGOdtClearly, but the simplicity is also geared towards the average public. Now eat your free insult!

@dougclark9407

7 ай бұрын

That is a given!@@1LEgGOdt

@Sitzenleben

7 ай бұрын

If i am not mistaken the m60 was the tank we used prior to the abram. . . Did we not have any refurbushed to give away. . . They should be atleast as good as the leopard 1

@jklmn101

7 ай бұрын

@@Sitzenleben You do raise a good issue, and it has even been discussed to some extent among others, but even though the last of the US M60's was used as late as Desert Storm by the US Marine Corps, that is the last of their true service life for all practical purposes. Others were in service more recently by nations such as Thailand, but even those have since been replaced, and as such are even more obsolete than the Leopard 1, at least in any sort of real quantity.

Russians are still going to be talking about this disabled Challenger when Crimea is being retaken.

@gettingfactsoutthere

7 ай бұрын

If they can take Tokmak first which they struggled immensely in taking Robotine. They will have another X amount of kilometres to go and have to hold both flanks to prevent encirclement. I don't know what you people are smoking but I want it.

@1faustus

7 ай бұрын

@@gettingfactsoutthere You really want your brain fried as much as theirs? This channel makes L Ron Hubbard look conservative and rational.

@duketruth

7 ай бұрын

When will something like this happen? The latest calculations made by military experts show that Ukrainians will reach Crimea in 174 years, at this rate .....

@mathish1477

7 ай бұрын

​@@duketruththey visit every day.

Unfortunately the video evidence I have seen has shown MULTIPLE Challenger tanks destroyed along with quite a bit of Leopard tanks. A great deal of Russian armour has been destroyed as well. Mines, drones, & new anti-armour systems (not including modern artillery!) are turning out to be a serious bane to tanks. Also one must consider defensive terrain modifications like dragons teeth & trenches. The current conflict indicates that the role of the tank in modern warfare needs alot of rethinking. A drone costing less than $500 takes out a tank costing millions of dollars. One tends to forget the people who are winning the war are the arms manufacturers!

I listen to the Telegraph's report on the Ukraine war most days. Mr Gordon is featured on there quite often so it's good to be able to "put a face to a voice"

It was a bit like when a footballer scores a goal. A team mate runs up and kicks it triumphantly back into the net. It still only counts as one goal. It was a waste of a drone missile.

"The chief advantages of smoothbore designs are their greater suitability for fin stabilised ammunition and their greatly reduced barrel wear compared with rifled designs." There is a reason why other tanks do not have rifled barrells

@abatesnz

7 ай бұрын

I think Ch3 will have smoothbore barrels, no?

@raz4371

7 ай бұрын

@@abatesnz ch2 also has a smoothbore gun you just have to put it on

@johnl5350

7 ай бұрын

There's always a tradeoff with any decision like that. I'm sure most of it comes down to doctrine and how the tanks and supporting forces are intended to be used. The flip side would be Abrams using a gas turbine engine instead of diesel. It adds maintenance and supply line complications, but also comes with advantages.

@andys7314

7 ай бұрын

@@raz4371no it doesn’t 😂😂😂

@andys7314

7 ай бұрын

@@abatesnzyes CR3 will get the L55

That ones gutted and popped it's top though.

My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division in WW2. He said very similar things about the Russian forces. The tactics the Soviets used was attack in mass, causing many casualties. It seems nothing has changed.

@briancarno8837

7 ай бұрын

yeah loads of drones were used in WW2

@shawngremm3226

7 ай бұрын

What does drones have to do with anything

@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311

7 ай бұрын

And who won that war then?

@linmal2242

7 ай бұрын

Force of numbers and supply, that's who !@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311

@Acacontrols

7 ай бұрын

Luckily your Opa lost the war

Incredibly informed and educative interview 👏👏 Many thanks for your intelligent and professional journalism 😎 Wonderful 🖐️

Russians howling over a single disabled Challenger 2 (that doesn't even have all the upgrades) shows you how pathetic and desperate they are, also how highly regarded the Challenger 2 is. According to russians a single Challenger 2 disabled is more noteworthy than the 300k soldiers they sacrificed to get there. Maybe they can disable one more before russia implodes

@dpelpal

7 ай бұрын

The fact that the ruble is now in the toilet shows that the world knows russia has lost the war.

@leeii337

7 ай бұрын

@@NEVS-rf8gq try again........

@nerdomania24

7 ай бұрын

what a legendary cope I just have seen

@chimwemwetembo6446

7 ай бұрын

😂

@paddington1670

7 ай бұрын

he's not wrong. russia's invasion has come to a stop, and Ukraine is making progress taking back THEIR territory from the invaders. Net positive is net positive, russia isnt doing jack sh7, so Ukraine is winning. It isnt cope, it's the fkn truth. @@nerdomania24

they make a huge smokescreen with the burning challengers!

@scottkrater2131

7 ай бұрын

One whole tank, big deal.

@gezalesko3813

7 ай бұрын

out of fourteen it is...

Excellent interview. Thank you.

Very informative report,would like to see more current videos,dates and times to match your reports

Great interview. The American M-1 tank is named after General Abrams, thought I heard the tank called Abraham…nonetheless very informative and got the British view on why they chose to stick with a rifled barrel.

As an American I have to say I consider the Challenger II a much better tank than the Leopard II and anything from Russia or communist China. If I wasn’t in an Abrams I would hope to be in a Challenger.

@DJRockford83

7 ай бұрын

The only tank that has ever killed a challenger... was a challenger😅

@garyrumsby3330

7 ай бұрын

Glad I’m not in any of them sounds like a suicidal job

@avs38rus

7 ай бұрын

No matter that u say

@superplayer931

7 ай бұрын

The abrams is too big. It will be an easy target, plus the jet engine will give away its location from miles away.

@danditto6145

7 ай бұрын

@@superplayer931 The jet turbine is quieter than ordinary tank engines, has less heat signature, can burn more types of fuel, has quicker acceleration, does not require a lengthy warm up like ordinary tanks and weighs less, so an Abrams with thicker armor has better ground pressure than most country’s tanks. The only draw backs to the Abrams and Challenger are whether the end users have the technology and equipment to maintain it. It’s designed to operate from the frozen tundra of Alaska to the swamps of Louisiana, from the desserts of Arizona to the mountain woodland of Tennessee. Americans know how to build tanks with power trains that don’t break down; we built some of the most reliable armored vehicles in history. Even if you manage to damage an Abrams or Challenger the chances of killing a trained crew are extremely small, as is damaging it enough that it can not be recovered and repaired.

Insightful commentary, great interview, Thanks Kate

2 challengers down,another wonder weapon.

Challenger tanks are really well made machines.

@duketruth

7 ай бұрын

😅🤣😂🤣 Yeap .... It burned for 7-8 hours..

@DiavoIa

7 ай бұрын

@@duketruth Yet the crew lives to get in another, drink a brew and soldier on.

Maybe not getting them destroyed is a great place to begin

@WhizzingFish12

7 ай бұрын

The fact that they've made such a big deal out of putting one out of action is very interesting considering Russia has likely lost several THOUSAND tanks at this point. Imagine what a US armored corps full of hundreds of M1A2s would do to Russian forces.

Kornet entered the chatroom.

Great interview, let’s hope this horrible war ends soon.

Great explanations, thank you very much both for your eforts! I would add just one important detail, Abrahms can not just pull at a petrol station because it is using aviation grade fuel, so that is why is very important that the logistics runs perfectly and this detail does not become a problem😊

@paulinequinton1478

7 ай бұрын

I understand that the Abrams was designed to run on petrol, marine diesel or jet fuel, though it prefers the last of these.

@jessehachey2732

7 ай бұрын

WRONG. The M1 Abrams is MULTI-fuel, so absolutely it can pull up at a petrol station and fill up on gas or diesel…heck it can run on any combustible fuel such as gas, kerosene, diesel, heck could probably do with heavy liquor in a pinch. This has been widely debunked months ago, so not the correction you thought you had huh! SMH, you’re just as complicit of spreading misinformation as the useless trolls! 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️

@eTraxx

7 ай бұрын

The Abrams is a multi-fuel engine .. they need to change out to the correct injector I think .. or something like. I forget .. been almost 1/4 century since I was on an Abrams and was a crewmember and a lot of what the mechanics did was a mystery. :)

@bunzeebear2973

6 ай бұрын

@@paulinequinton1478 Translation: petrol, diesel, or kerosene. In the winter, especially if it gets cold; it is petrol or kerosene...as neither fuel jells in the fuel lines when it is -20F(or-30C)

God save the British people. Thare unequal. With their generosity. And with their knowledge of knowing. This fight is for all the free world.

@gurglejug627

7 ай бұрын

Birmingham, second city of the UK has just declared bankruptcy. Doesn't that tell you anything?

@Fload.Ritlhe

7 ай бұрын

The world will be free when Russia has defeated the United terrorist states of america. Go Russia

That's something i would never contemplate doing is to drive a tank in a war zone . I'd only go in a submarine so long as it promised to not go deeper than 10 metres . A b17 as crew wouldn't have appealed either

"Deep into Crimea" 😂 only 100 miles left across the minefields and through defence lines 😂

Your country politician said that this are the game changer 😂😂😂😂.. I can see what kind of game changer it was

Which side has lost over 4,000 tanks since February 2022? Hint: it's not the Ukrainian side.

@dpelpal

7 ай бұрын

Don't forget the 500 tanks Ukraine stole from russia when russia ran away from Kharkiv with their hair on fire🤭

@mhlangamlungisi5108

7 ай бұрын

hint 4 000 tanks being st is straight out f a comic book. Scource " trust me bro"

@FishandHunt

7 ай бұрын

@@dpelpal Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🔱💪🏻🇦🇺

@Robert-xy4xi

7 ай бұрын

​@@dpelpalIt's dpelpal 😂 3 days to the Sea of Azov fantasy pusher 😂

@Robert-xy4xi

7 ай бұрын

​@@FishandHuntSlava Cocaina 🦄

This is true analysis from the expert who is on the front line.

We're very often wee in Glesga, makes us very suitable for tank crew.

The relatively small size and low weight of Soviet tanks was part of an overall strategy - all the road and bridge infrastructure throughout the Soviet Union was built with maximum weights in mind - this was to render western MBTs too big and heavy to operate effectively in Soviet territory - which Ukraine was of course.

Chalenger turning into heap of ash

Great guest and great interview.

*This 'Times Radio' Channel is funnier than Monty Python*

Weren't we previously told the Abrams was so complicated and would take much training,?

@eddapultstab2078

7 ай бұрын

The turbine engine is a different beast from the usual diesels that are used. The crews need training, however the real bottle neck is the mechanics that have to be specially trained to maintain them.

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665

7 ай бұрын

Its lighter and more powerful than the diesels but you have to supply jet fuel forward... not an easy or safe job.. with any fuel and logistics is always an issue in strike range. The other issue is heat the infra red signature builds up fast on a gas turbine.. 🤔 so harder to hide? So probably better deployed in a breakthrough charge. Rather than stop go movement sniping.

@alganhar1

7 ай бұрын

I second the other guy who commented, the issue with Abrams is not crew training, but maintenance personnel training. That turbine engine is unlike anything else anyone else uses, and its incredibly complex even compared to the full power pack of a Challenger II or Leopard II. Going to take time to train the mechanics to repair and properly maintain them.

Slight correction is that while the Challenger 2 uses a rifled barrel this does not necessarily make it more accurate since competing rounds use fin stabilization. The rifled gun however allows for a wider variety of shells particularly for infantry support while sacrificing a fair bit of velocity.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

7 ай бұрын

yes and no. the rifling is only neccesary for HESH. And there are more effective infantry support rounds availible than that. (DM12 HEAT-FS-Multipurpose, DM11-HE-Frag Airburst etc)

@nickwake5484

7 ай бұрын

It's predominantly to inpart spin on HESH rounds so that the explosive spreads better upon impact. As you note, it isn't needed for accuracy on other modern rounds.

@IonorRea

7 ай бұрын

HESH was prior to composite armor proliferation widely used against armored targets including tanks, and Russians using plenty of armored transporters and older tanks that did not have composite armor (or even newer enemy tanks showing at angles where exposing parts do not have composite armor) in which case they could be hit by Challenger spin-stabilized HESH rounds from ranges Russian armored vehicles have no hope of hitting back with smoothbore guns even if using guided ammunition currently available for Russian crews. Israelis were known to shoot at enemies with their localized 105mm rifled guns equipped Centurions from ranges in excess of 10km at which point most of the ATGMs Russia has will be a long time out of rocket propellant.

Ive found a new video and they drive by and to be fair it does look in good condition. The engine covers have blown off and a few bits are removed but the armour looks intact

@daveoc5770

7 ай бұрын

Great so its a 30 ton skip

"these tanks can pull into the local petrol station and fill up..." I wouldn't like to fill one of those and charge it on my credit card!

How odd you know Russian tank losses but do not know Ukranian

Ukraine has lost only 6 leopards the rest as you say were abled to be repaired and sent back to action.

@SlasherCat-oe4nd

7 ай бұрын

Lol 33 leopard lost Total video counts ... Hit by Lancet and artillery

@dpelpal

7 ай бұрын

@@SlasherCat-oe4nd And according to you, the _MOSKVA_ still sails as well!😅

@joeoria4497

7 ай бұрын

and the patriots 💥 and the hymars 💥 and storm shadow 💥 and the Ukrainian air force 💥 and now the overrated hyped up challenger 💥 all that money down the drain and all the lives lost ..it's sickening

@SlasherCat-oe4nd

7 ай бұрын

@@dpelpal lol 32 countries destroyed 1 old soviet warship

@Robert-xy4xi

7 ай бұрын

​@@SlasherCat-oe4nd50+ Leopard 2 lost!

I can't believe what a shovel can do to one Chally,,,,,

There's no way that smoking wreck was repaired.

Challenger 2s so good that Britain actually forbid Ukraine from using them in direct combat areas where theres a risk they could get damaged and immobilised and captured by Russians

@willymueller3278

7 ай бұрын

Right ! 😂

@spectre750

7 ай бұрын

And yet here we are with two confirmed kills and a third unconfirmed.

It popped the turret. That tank is not going back into action

@alganhar1

7 ай бұрын

Tank turrets are designed to be removed you know. The important damage with a popped turret will be damage to the gearing of the turret, and damage to the turret ring itself. If those are badly damaged then you are absolutely right. If they are essentially still intact then the tank is repairable.

@TeaDrinkersRuledTheWorld

7 ай бұрын

@@alganhar1 no, it’s not repairable. Don’t be a kipper. I fully support Ukraine and as an English person I am very proud of our armed forces but let’s not pretend that tank is anything other than rust.

*Nothing can survive a tank-mine BUT why did they drive over it? These expensive tanks should all be equipped with Anti-Mine Rollers in the front of the tracks!!!*

It looks knackered mate come on