It occurs to me that on the Olympic, the ship Captain Smith would have been much more familiar with than the Titanic, the A-deck Promenade was open all the way. I guess in the stress of the situation, he fell back on what he knew and just... forgot about that design difference.

My favorite Titanic story came from A Night to Remember. A passenger on the Carpathia is woken with the news that his niece wants to see him. He is nonplussed because he knew that the niece and her sisters were on the Titanic. There was a family reunion on the way to New York.

Charles Lightoller strikes me as a brave man, but he also strikes me as the sort of man who'd work in the local town hall with a rubber stamp and a rule book, issuing fines because your hedge was 3 inches too tall.

@TheGozalus

2 жыл бұрын

More like 3 mm too tall to be more accurate.

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that lol

@geraldwalker7609

2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone checked the family tree to find out if he is related to Barney Fife?

@HappyRoach1

2 жыл бұрын

Lightoller was by the book. Just like the sailors on the Californian.

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

@@HappyRoach1 excuse me absolutely not

You can actually see the two of them jumping into the boat in the James Cameron movie as well, at the very same second Rose jumps BACK onto the ship to reunite with Jack. I always thought this one bit was a truly fascinating example of how Cameron tried to honor the historicity of the film, intertwining it with the dramatic effect of fiction. Granted, the two guys who jump in don't necessarily look like first-class passengers, but still, I'm inclined to think the scene is an homage to Woolner and Steffansson's story.

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

I went back and looked and you are right! I never noticed that before and honestly now that I think about it Rose was in collapsible D. Even Ismay got into collapsible C in the movie. This is never mentioned in the film but now that I think about it, James Cameron even got that detail right. Its amazing how many historically accurate things cameron did in that film that are easy to overlook if you arnt careful.

@raffaelschwager796

2 жыл бұрын

I have something to add, also in James Cameron film during the same scene when both men jumped into Collapsible D. If you look carefully, you can also see a man or someone fell into the water below the lifeboat. After some research, there is another first class passenger name Frederick Maxfield Hoyt, who jumped into the water after Collapsible D with his wife (Jane Hoyt) is lowered or being lowered and survived the sinking by being pulled into Collapsible D. Another accurate side detail if you ask me

@leonardodevinci1251

2 жыл бұрын

Just watched the clip it took me some time to find the exact moment I’m really surprised how accurate the film was in its execution of the story of the titanic

@sirboomsalot4902

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a lot of really accurate background details in Titanic. Which makes me even more mad he butchered the legacies of men like First Officer William Murdoch, Bruce Ismay, and Captain Edward Smith with myths, half trues, and outright lies.

@wilhufftarkin8543

2 жыл бұрын

People like to criticize that Cameron decided to include fictional characters, but I think it was a smart move. Rose and Jack give us a fixed point of view that enables us to immerse ourselves into the story, while also giving an excuse to explore the whole ship and the whole sinking. Rose gives us insight into the first class, while Jack gives us insight into the third class and their shenanigans give us insight into the areas of the ship that weren't accessible to passengers. Sure, they could have just focused on several real characters, but I think that would feel more like a documentary and thanks to Rose and Jack, these different perspectives are connected.

Cool 4th wall break with Lifeboat #6 blooper, very cool save.

@RmsLusitainia

2 жыл бұрын

Yea

@mictoonanimation8852

2 жыл бұрын

yea

Captain Smith must have been in shock to direct passengers to the A Deck Promenade; he was likely thinking of the Olympic, whose Promenade is not enclosed.

@rbsk999

2 ай бұрын

That's exactly what it was.

Here's a little known fact about Mr. Steffansson: After the sinking of Titanic, in early 1913, Steffansson filed the largest claim for financial compensation made against the White Star Line for the loss of a single item of luggage or cargo as a result from the disaster. The item turned out to be the oil painting of the La Cirassinne au Bain, a large neoclassical oil painting by French painter Merry-Joseph Blondel, to which Steffansson demanded $100,000, equivalent to $2.6 million in today's money. Unfortunately, he didn't get the financial compensation, and all cases against the White Star Line were settled for a combined amount of $644,000

There are probably hundreds of similar stories we will never know, friends, family, colleagues and crew working together, trying their absolute best to escape, and not making it.

@Truecrimeresearcher224

2 жыл бұрын

When the ship was sinking it didn't know class. The classes combined and that's why in the boats you see them sharing in the movie and on the Carpathia they probably stuck together as they survived. Class meant nothing to a sinking ship, a ship didn't know money. In the movie roses mother learned a lesson class meant nothing but it was too late

Great story. I am norwegan,and have heard that the grandfather of my moms frend did something simular to escape titanic. His sure name was bratthammer,and he was in 3 clas. He jumped down in a lifeboat when it was lowering down the ships side

Research brian clark and stanley praimnath who survived 911. They were above the impact zone of flight 175. They were strangers at the time. Their survival story is one of the best ones of that tragic day

Can I just say, I loved that you paused in your video to show us you looking up when lifeboat 6 left :) Thank you for sharing this amazing survival story. Fantastic job, Sam!

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your support, its means more than you know!

@kellydaunis

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels That was so adorable when you plopped your book down to look it up. I giggled. Thank you for sharing this video. I'm so glad that these men got onto the lifeboat.

@Krafty

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels I think this would be a cool thing to do again every now and then. I know it takes a bit more work setting up the extra shots. But that was a really satisfying sequence to watch! :-) loved the extra bit of info. Really cool!

The funny part is, when I saw the title I said “Psh, who is this with this BLATANT lie & clickbait…OOH Historic Travels?! It has to have some teeth to it then” *click* That’s definitely a testament to the quality & work you put in to make sure you’re historically factual. Thank you for what you do.

My boys were excited to see a new video but I told them they have to wait till after school since this aired right as they were getting ready to board the school bus. They love your videos and are obsessed with Titanic and ships now. I am going to Vegas in November and while at the Luxor plan on going to the exhibit to bring them both a Titanic souvenir

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! I am glad they like my content! Means a lot

@sabrinastratton1991

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels they call you the “Titanic Guy” 😊 they’d probably be subscribers if they were old enough to have YT accounts. Keep up the good work, our entire family loves Historic Travels and we look forward to your new videos. ☺️

Sam, this one is a classic. I often wondered how the Strauss conversation was preserved. Then there is the whole survival account. Great job, man!

@HappyRoach1

2 жыл бұрын

I assumed it was a one of the sailors at the lifeboats who reported the Strauss conversation.

"YOU men, get out of that boat!" "OK Karen"

@Liasisws

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha.nice!

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

Excuse me I am not a karen lol

@matthewthetransportguy3515

2 жыл бұрын

@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 sure sure sure

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

@Raymond i heard that

This is terrific, Sam. By the way regarding Hugh Woolner having to tell Captain Smith about the enclosures / glass windows of the promenade deck, EJ Smith may have had a moment where he was confused as to which ship he was on! The Olympic, the sister ship of the Titanic, did not have enclosures on her promenade deck -- that was seen as a recent improvement when the Titanic was being "fitted out." [Note: I am not sure if Olympic had those windows installed later in her career? ] Captain Smith, as the former master of the Olympic and so very well experienced with that vessel, may have had that moment of confusion. I recall reading this in one of Walter Lord's books. So very fortuitous that Woolner felt the courage to remind the Captain of the existence of those windows. Saved a lot of time and probably saved lives. Best to you!

I would not be suprised if Sam came out as a time traveler and was on Titanic and that is why he knows so much about it.

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yep and he saw lightoller doing that

@stevencooper2464

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Sam is the re-incarnation of a Titanic passenger who survived the sinking but passed away on the Carpathia.

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevencooper2464 yeah maybr

7:31 I was expecting this to go full HowToBasic.

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

You are the first person to catch that reference

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

Well done

There is a brief scene/shot of the two men in the 1997 movie when Rose jumps back into the ship.

I find this ironic that fate chose Lightholler, who, let;'s be honest here, is responsible for more deaths due to his stupidity than even Smith, to survive the sinking

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

Oweee i am not stupid lol the captain said women and children only

@GordonMBSC2009

2 жыл бұрын

@2and officer Charles Lightoller, the order was "Women and children FIRST" not only.

@alanluscombe8a553

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaha I am so glad I found these comments hahahahahahaha

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

@@GordonMBSC2009 it was womem and children only the captain made his orders clear

@iamhungey12345

Жыл бұрын

@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 Sauce?

Amazing that the Captain actually gave good advice on going below to board a lifeboat. That's exactly how they did it too!

I also heard, regarding Isadore and Ida Strauss, that Ida also turned to her maid, who was standing nearby, and asked her to board lifeboat 8, and that she told the same story about the Strausses.

When I was a young lad .All I wanted was a mate to chat with about the Titanic .Sam you are that friend .That you can come and listen to, and chat about the Titanic .Many thanks from London UK .

@JohnSchreuders

2 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks! May I ask where you got the Titantic model?

Of all the titanic channels, this one is the best for these lesser known stories. I love hearing about individual peoples experiences.

You are single handedly responsible for selling probably 10,000 copies of "On a Sea of Glass". At least you're responsible for selling one (mine).

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha nice

@thunderccr5056

2 жыл бұрын

2, I bought one as well !😉

@michelepineau9657

2 жыл бұрын

I bought one too!

@sabrinastratton1991

2 жыл бұрын

I got one for my 30th birthday in February. It’s a good book. Was hard to find but worth it

@thoji215

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels Well to be honest, you’re the reason I found out about the book and bought it for my birthday two weeks ago. Thanks Sam!

I just can’t imagine being in a lifeboat and hearing all the screams and just knowing you couldn’t go back and help anyone . I bet passengers lived with that for years afterwards . Horrible all the way around

14:51 OH HE RAGED AGAIN Add this to your compilation if you are doing one!

I respect Lightoller's convictions of women and children only, however, not only did they not get anywhere close to getting all the women and children into the boats, but the result of this choice was SO MANY empty seats in those lifeboats. Better a man fill those seats than nobody! wtf! needless amount of lives lost here.

Possibly the last survivors off the ship. Wow, right place at the right time for sure!

Well done Sam...Well done...just keep doing your research and sharing with us. It is amazing to think that if they had not escaped we would have never known the bravery of Ida and Isadore Strauss.

@HappyRoach1

2 жыл бұрын

I keep on thinking someone needs to give Sam a PhD on maritime disaster history and give him a studio with actors and CGI to reenact some of these events.

Thanks for this story. Your “rages” are fun and real.

Fascinating story, Sam! I've never heard it before. Can't believe these two gentlemen were able to survive the sinking!

I know most of the stories you tell. But you tell them so well and seem extremly likeable. Thanks for taking the time for doing these videos. Only started watching 2 days ago but can't stop watching your videos.

I can't imagine in this late of the sinking that Collapsible D has that many empty seats. You see this time and time again: some people acquiesce to their fate while others persevere to the last. It really seems like those are the ones that made it.

@santivsj

Жыл бұрын

to be fair, they were just in the right place at right moment, they casually saw the boat. Not many had the same opportunity, sadly.

@chuckschafer942

Жыл бұрын

NO COLAPSABLE D WAS LOADED TO CAPACITY THATS WHY EDITH EVANS GAVE HER SEAT TO A FRIEND

What an amazing story! Thanks so much and keep up the great work. Love your videos!

To be fair… in an emergency situation like this, I don’t think breaking the windows would be out of the question. Ideally prior to the boats being lowered but even worst case scenario, some glass in the lifeboats is better than drowning or hypothermia

@dan_38

2 жыл бұрын

It's not so much the issue of the glass on the boat, but the timing to do it. This is marine controlled glass, designed to take a pounding from the ocean, meaning it's very difficult to break effectively. The officers would've have to break the initial glass, make a hole large enough to fit a human with a large lifebelt, and proceed to fill the lifeboat with people. That's too much time lost for what could be done just one deck above.

@HappyRoach1

2 жыл бұрын

@@dan_38 , so that explains why a lot of the glass on the wreck of Titanic is still intact on the wreck.

Those guys were both lucky and smart! About Lightoller: I know he did a lot of good things to help people that night and he ultimately did let those two guys go, but I'll never be able to give him a complete pass. You're really going to separate families and leave them shattered, all because you think men are cowards for not wanting to die on this doomed ship? come on, dude! I'm not saying he deserved to die, no one did, of course. However, it kind of annoys me a little bit that Lightoller survived, I can't lie.

@1stofficerwilliammurdoch515

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he did kind of make up for that in WW2, when he went across the channel at Dunkirk in his own boat, and saved quite a few soldiers with Luftwaffe planes flying overhead. Still, I agree with what you said, but that’s just the way it was back then

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

Comon you do know the captains orders

@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 I believe the captains orders were women and children FIRST, not women and children ONLY, Mr Lightoller. Lol

@2ndofficercharleslightolle878

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer one its mr charles lightoller and 2 its women and children ONLY

@HappyRoach1

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer , Lightoller misheard due to the loud steam being released plus Captain Smith being in shock and not reiterating, "Women and children, FIRST"

My god. Your videos are just pure GOLD & i watched them many times before.

thank you for all the cool videos!!!

What a great story, and you told it so well. Even though I knew they were going to survive, I was still holding my breath throughout the video.

Again, an interesting video! Can't wait for your upcoming videos! Keep up with the great work 😁

I love it when you have an onscreen rant… great vid!

Well-explained Sam. I always liked that little detail in the HFX animation! ~Mike

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I have seen your channel! You do great work!

@OceanlinerDesigns

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels Too kind Sam! Collab when!? Haha :)

@theonlycarpy

Жыл бұрын

omg its bicheal brady from bocean binre besigns

Another amazing video Sam,I can't wait for your next video

Good morning!!

Hi Sam, great video!!

Wow so glad you found the story and let us know. Hey please keep looking for any new stories and let us know. So nice too to have that Titantic model to show us more!

Awesome story Sam. Loved it. 👍🏼😎

Woolner and Steffansson getting into the lifeboat be like “Hello there.”

I really enjoy your enthusiastic videos.

Great video! Incredible story, thank got they made it out just in time… nice to hear these positive stories as well 🙏 crazy escape, right place at the right time in the Nick of time

Great video! Also I loved it when you busted out the book.

Another Idea:What happend to the other ships that is in distress call with titanic when it was sinking

Love your videos.

This channel absolutely slaps. Love niche youtube. Where else can you get this much history and content outside of a book

Another great story, thanks Sam 👍

Love your videos man

Hey sam, got an idea, what about a video on the Mackay-Bennett, the ship that recovered the bodies from the titanic wreck site? There must be some stories to come from that ship...

Are you getting a LEGO Titanic I really think you should it looks so awesome

Thanks for another great video

Great vid

Another great video, and that I was not aware of these two passengers. Thanks.

Great video! Very interesting! Loved the use of On a sea of glass haha.

Hey Sam great video!!! Also Video Idea:USS Johnston. It is the deepest shipwreck in the world! Also, great and interesting video over these two men!

Great video. I am always interested in videos about the Titanic. These gentleman were lucky they got off.

At first, I thought it was Jack Thayer and Milton Long and raised an eyebrow because Long was lost in the sinking. I know the story about these two men who survived; first learned about them in the book 882 and 1/2 facts about the Titanic. Glad that this video elaborates more on them. Also, one aspect about Collapsible D that is forgotten is that there was another man, Frederick Hoyt, who jumped into the lifeboat. His wife Jane entered the boat, and after Woolner and Steffanson entered the boat, Hoyt realized that the water was one deck below the boat deck and jumped off the ship. People in the lifeboat noticed him and pulled him in, but his wife didn’t know he was in lifeboat until they were rescued by the Carpathia. I’ve heard by Tom Lynskey and others that Lightoller saw the 2 jump into the lifeboat but decided not to order them back because anyone, including himself, would have done that in that situation.

Hi Sam! This is my first time commenting and I gotta tell you how much I love your videos! I credit my newfound interest in the sinking of the Titanic entirely to the videos you make on it. I also have an idea for an upcoming video. What do you think would’ve happened if the Titanic sunk during the day instead of at night? Do you think more people would have survived? Would help be more easily accessible to the ship? Would the water not have been as freezing? Keep up with the amazing content!

I love your titanic vids plz keep them up

Very late but I made a little brief visit in the live chat. Such a great and interesting story about the men! I think this is one of my favourite Titanic survival stories so far 🙂

Great story!!

Stories about individuals on titanic are fascinating. Thanks Sam 👍. Would love to see you do one on a man named Charles Melville Hays. He was president of the GTR. My knowledge on him is somewhat limited. You have a fantastic ability to tell the stories and find the information.

I'd probably laugh if some dude tried ordering me back onto a sinking ship after I escaped

I’ve heard of that a bit. Your model of Titanic is really amazing!

HAHAHA I like Sam's little blooper with the book checking the time boat #6 left the ship. Too bad it wasn't a lamp though 😄😆😂🤣

Historic travels is the only KZreadr that I know that thanks his new subscribers every video.

It’s crazy how we’re still learning new things about titanic over 100 years later.

Thank you for this fact! Badass video

You have quite a few more subs than when I first joined, I think you had 19k when I subbed good to see you getting more that’s awesome

It was also because of the maid of the Strauss family that we know of the exchange about the lifeboat, in fact mrs Strauss said to the maid "take my seat in the lifeboat".

Love your videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Love your channel friend

Hi Sam, I'm new to your channel. Wow,xi can't believe just how lucky those two friends were to escape the Titanic. That was very, very close. And for Lightoller to think about getting those two men to leave that lifeboat ? Really ? Maybe it was a good thing that those two friends left when they did. Things might have been different if they escaped on an earlier lifeboat.

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard, glad you liked my videos!

@marshamcdevitt3089

2 жыл бұрын

I have a question for you. In James Cameron's movie Titanic, Captain Smith calls back lifeboat number 6 to come back to the ship. Was that bc he wanted to put more people in that lifeboat ? And if so , how would they have done that ? The boat was already in the water. It's just something I was thinking about.

@trevorbluesquirrel899

11 ай бұрын

@@marshamcdevitt3089 They would have hoisted the boat back up, cause the lifeboats were meant 2 evacuate the passengers 2 another ship, not float on open sea!

Warner saved lives. Glad he survived

Thanks for this!!! A friend of mine played Isador Strauss just recently! I must share this with him!

@HistoricTravels

2 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome!!! Played him in what if you dont mind me asking?

@tracynance2743

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoricTravels TITANIC the Musical at a local live theater production.

Other people testified about hearing that conversation among the Strous's but nevertheless, great content I actually learn things I didn't know 👍

Incredible story!

I love the information you find can I ask where did you find that he was about to order them to get out of collapsable D

Dang that was a close call!

Good Vid! There is another version out there of these two men's departure from the Titanic. I believe I read somewhere that Capt. Smith fed them the information to drop down from the boat deck and "see if there isn't a boat down there" Smith told them that, knowing full well D was being sent down. I don't think they walked down the A deck from stern to bow....they simply went down the stairwell from the boat deck and waiting for D to be lowered right in front of them.....and they jumped in.

Great story, thanks......

Why are you always so hard on Lightoller? Don't forget you're viewing the sinking with the comfort of hindsight of over a century. Sure some of his decisions don't make sense to us but there's medical evidence that people in the midst of a traumatic event, don't always act rationally. Sometimes the shock they're experiencing means their decision making ability is compromised. Cut the guy some slack.

7:31 someone's been playing LA Noire

Sam, I find it interesting that you have found so many gold nuggets such as this in the TITANIC Story.

Very cool story. So glad you found it and shared it with us. I must admit that events like this do make me smack Officer Lighthouser in the head!!!

Also I love how he slammed the boook down 📙💣🧨

I would like to see a video of Titanic survivors and their service in WW1. Also, how many total survivors served in WW1.

@ilsignorsaruman2636

Жыл бұрын

Considering most survivors were women and children, i'd say very few. And the few men that went for Murdoch instead of Lightoller (we can say he "saved" those men from the horrors of ww1) served, and probably some even died. Escape a tragedy to die in another one even worse.

Hi Sam recommendation for a vid you should watch it’s called the Lusitania Song idk if you would like it but your the first person in mind when I heard that song

The way he threw the book down

It's great to chase a key event, that of the Strausses right back to it's original primary source- a great sense of satisfaction- you have ultimate truth. It's also looking like I've missed a few episodes- blame youtube's algorithm.

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