How to Wet Sand Orange Peel in Car Paint: Porsche 911
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This is the step by step guide for removing orange peel from your car's paint with my special guest, Jason Rose from Rupes USA. First we use a 1500 grit film disc and then 2000 grit foam backed disc. Afterwards we polished the paint with DA wool and DA Course compound from Rupes, then final polish with Rupes Uno Pure. For protection, we applied AMMO Reflex Pro before driving it back up to Rhode Island to the Audrain Auto Museum. Check out the step by step process for removing orange peel from your paint and decide if its the "right thing to do" on your particular vehicle. Hope this helps you create flat flawless paint in your car's paint! -Larry
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Holy smokes the before and after is incredible
I’ve been watching and learning from you for 4 years now, I’m in college and now I’m going to start my own detailing company this month. Thank you for the inspiration, because of you I’m now very passionate about detailing.
@frostedcereal8243
2 жыл бұрын
how’s it been
@necessarynarcissism6772
2 жыл бұрын
@@frostedcereal8243 looks like he's been playing a bunch of cod instead
@frostedcereal8243
2 жыл бұрын
@@necessarynarcissism6772 hmm I see
@markanthony2015
2 жыл бұрын
@@necessarynarcissism6772 looks like he’s a racer now
@jondough7823
2 жыл бұрын
@@necessarynarcissism6772 this made me lol Detailing is hard work, COD is not lol 😂
Can’t wait to never do this to my car, but still loved watching/learning about the process.
@GUYR1975
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍
@kiavaxxaskew
Жыл бұрын
If you use a 5000 or higher grit, it's pretty much dummy proof. Literally try it on any part of car followed by 6k, 7k, or 8k then compound, polish, and finish. It's easy process.
@scotthightower9481
10 ай бұрын
@@kiavaxxaskewI am in the process of doing the same to a Miata project. Starting at 1k, then moving all the way up 10k. Compounding now with 3m perfect. Looks good so far.
@jayroberts4900
7 ай бұрын
@@kiavaxxaskewwhat about going from 1.5k, 2K,3K up to much 5k? I know it’s a lot of work obviously but it’s on my own car. So I don’t mind if I’m over worked. What does the extra 2/3/4k provide? Just easier access to remove the sanding marks? Or is 1.5k to 2k enough like in this video? What I don’t want.. is to finish at 2k, use a wool pad and a DA with a cutting compound and it just doesn’t clear or something goes wrong
Dang I was hoping you would remeasure the paints thickness after all that sanding to see how much was removed.
@beerbrewer9996
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Makes you wonder how much clear coat was left, if any, after all that sanding.
@RC-ic1co
3 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be interesting. But I speculate Larry would not do that, because the loss in overall paint thickness is probably not "that large" - but what you are really interested in would be how much clear coat (in the top layer) is remaining. And I guess there is just no way to tell that, because one will not know, how thick this layer of clear coat was prior to the procedure.
@mamanmahomie6747
3 жыл бұрын
@@RC-ic1co i hope larry read this and bring it up in the new vids
@PepegaPig
3 жыл бұрын
If you wet sand correctly you may lose 5-6um. Personally I wouldn't ever dry sand with 1500 grit. I've wet sanded some cars and panels in the past and had very similar results to the video using 2500 wet sanding. I would generally go to 2000 grit as the lowest and then I'd follow up with 3000 grit. Using 1500 then 2000 and straight to Polishing can leave tiny sanding marks which you aren't getting out with compound and polish. However as Larry says generally wet sanding is a no no - not really any benefits in the real world. I've only done it to repair poorly re painted panels or as experimentation.
@mondop5270
3 жыл бұрын
@@PepegaPig buy good brands made for dry sanding only and the diff is tangible...
Jason is a great guest....lots of paint-finishing wisdom. Thanks for the vid.
*I can already see this is going to be another classic that I rewatch over and over again like the 5-layers-of-paint-964 video.* 🌈😊👍
Great to see Jason, Dan and you working on a amazing project. Nick had to love his car
Amazing job ! the green paint looks so much better with the sanding, compounding and polishing, and of course, also with AMMO protection !
Only thing I can afford to have orange peel on is oranges😭
@oc0dyc
3 жыл бұрын
Not just delicious, but nutritious as well!
@gyeoxn7815
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@rengasamyramiah649
3 жыл бұрын
@@oc0dyc fþtf
@markg7508
3 жыл бұрын
Bazinga
@TheG60528XiJinPing
2 жыл бұрын
@@oc0dyc wrong
simply put : a beautiful colour restoration on a truly deserving motor, big respect !!
The word "wow" is all that comes to mind !!! Excellent
While I will probably never do a full detail like you do, I absolutely love your content! Thank you for sharing with us!
Wet sanding results are the best! Great job as always!
I’ve been detailing for a few years now and I still learn something new from you every day
Perfect timing as I painted my own car and have the orange peel as you described. The Porsche is even the same color as I painted my car. Crazy.
Best Car Channel on KZread hands Down
One of the better videos explaining the sanding process
Brilliant video Larry! I just learnt the correct difference between film and foam sanding discs
I’m glad you posted this. I’m about to do a $50 rustoleum roll on paint job and will be sanding the orange peel.
Another Amazing job by the Absolute Best... AMMO NYC, Larry as always and Jason is an amazing detailer and Even better friend (it would seem) always there for a friend.
There is nothing better than a new AMMO video!!
So awesome seeing the Audrain museum. I've been there multiple times and visit Newport quite often.
Just opened the video but so excited to see it as Audrain is right down the road from me!
Oh, I enjoy your videos. Thank you and for this weekend I think I will go back to watch some of the videos on the monster collection of cars where you had a few videos made. Those cars were incredible.
amazing job! thanks for the content as always Larry!
Your knowledge in detailing still AMAZES me even after I’ve been subbed for awhile!!
@AMMO-NYC
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and supporting AMMO!
Always with love and passions great work guys.
Amazing job,, love the result Proud detailer here in the Philippines 😊
i really dont know why i am soo obsessed with this channel
If I can ever afford to have a nice car that needs my paint touched up this is the only guy that I would trust to do that
@bitcoochie4093
3 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@kanqquperze
3 жыл бұрын
@@bitcoochie4093 why are you so angry? Lighten up
@markaraujo06
3 жыл бұрын
You bet he got all the tools.
@AldousForestTheLast
3 жыл бұрын
My guy probably chargers more than most cars are worth 💀
@BenJammin427
3 жыл бұрын
@@bitcoochie4093 bob can’t afford nice cars either
"This is your walk of shame..." would not even dare to say that to Jason... Larry = Legend!
Nice to see Jason back in the videos!
Outstanding Larry!
That turned out phenomenal.
I absolutely admire my sensie in wet-sanding Mr. Rose, (one of my idols on the pad 😉), but great video as always as I'm an up and coming pro myself who is passionate about our craft as well so due be on the lookout Larry as you and your channel has helped me immensely God bless SALUTE!!!🔥
Smooth as silk. Love your content!
This is an excellent video. It's informative, well-structured, and shows the results of their work quite well, I think. Subscribed.
Larry: Who Moved the Mayonnaise on the left side of the Fridge? It belongs on the right side with the Label facing out!!!
@moparman3629
3 жыл бұрын
No one I guess
@moparman3629
3 жыл бұрын
I'm still sus of everyone tho
Plot twist: Jason intentionally let rain drip on the 911 so he could satisfy that desire to detail that beauty one last time...
Great choice of music. Love your vids keep up the amazing work!
I love that you use some background music with real instruments in a time where most car-related videos feature EDM almost exclusively.
@holymoly849
3 жыл бұрын
I used to watch the Detail Geek, but I hated that stupid ass music so much
Mill thickness gauge measures the entire paint build, not he clear coat thickness. Got to keep that in mind. It’s also a good practice to tape all edges (burnt many an edge) when buffing. Great video love them.
@johnnychimpo7539
2 жыл бұрын
This is what I don’t understand. If that gauge measures total thickness then how do they know if there will be any clear coat left after sanding? If they can remove the orange peel then that means that the orange peel is only in the clear coat, right? And they aren’t even sanding green paint ever…just clear?
@charliewhite9265
Жыл бұрын
Just clear coat causes the orange peel
@pipsohio
11 ай бұрын
You can measure an open area and then a door jamb to get an idea of how much clear you’re working with. The door jambs will have the least clear so you know you have between that and the total # to work with. Let’s say it’s 5.5 mils on the car average and 3.2 in the jamb. That means you have 2.3 mills to work with before danger.
What a gorgeous car, that color is unbelievable EDIT: So awesome to find out about this museum when I've got a trip to Newport coming up. Can't wait to check it out!
Great stuff Larry! Beautiful 911 in a great unusual color. I might need to tackle this on my E39 cause I have some etched-in water spots and DA compounding with microfiber and meg 105 isn't doing much :(
Absolutely gorgeous car!
Thanks for the content pal; keep it coming.
Another solid way to determine if your pad is deteriorating is to simply look at the pad. Most high quality pads such as Rupes, 3m actually have vertical or horizontal abrasion patterns. After sanding simply blow off the disc and inspect those patterns to determine how much cutting capability you have left! I used this method also when sanding headlights. You’ll see a noticeable difference in the pads if you regularly inspect them while sanding.
I picked up a few tips, thanks for posting.
Great ,,I have been looking at wet sand ,,tool's ,,I use Rupees,,,and am definitely going to go get wet& dry sand pads,,very Helpful 👍...new Zealand..
Big fan from Pakistan..... best-detailing channel keep up the good work.
Awesome video, thank you for the info and could not be more true. Don’t wet sand if you don’t need to
I forgot how good your videos are!
From their KZread videos, it seems like a wonderful museum
Fantastic job! 🤩
Thank you for sharing your Knowledge😊
I have been waiting for this video for so long
I do a lot of hand wetsanding on deep rids for my job, leveling fresh paint with a pneumatic DA and man the bodyshop guys love their Makita rotary to attack those sanding marks. Killing my wrists after a year, and they've all had multiple surgeries. My 15mm DA with microfiber cutting pad and Rupes' DA Coarse just isnt enough to attack P2000 sanding marks, but hopefully my new Rupes Mille with their new wool pads will. Absolutely love leveling fresh paint for that perfect mirror finish.
I was wondering where to get those new sprayers and finally able to order two of them. Thanks Mr. Larry!
@pivottools
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting our campaign!
When I saw Jason I was like JOOOOOOO YOU GOT THE MASTER IN HOUSE??!!!!!!
Awesome job!
I love this channel.
GREETING FROM ARGENTINA I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS.
Great educational video.
Amazing work.I use Rupes products as well, hard to beat.
Maybe one day you could try out those new denim and velvet pads. Probably good to compare MRR and time spent. Either way glad you highlighted the fact that it's better to leave orange peel alone in most cases!
Larry the kind of detailer to have a Glickenhaus Boot Baja and a Rimac in for detailing. That's just insane.
Larry is great knowledge and all around professor but when you add Jason Rose into the mix, your head explodes. Nobody can come close to these two fine Gents. Those two brains in one room could be dangerous and I would love to be there.
Insane! I'll say it again, you are M.O. (Microbe Obliterator) from Wall-E. You don't just pay attention to details; details are life!
I have watched ratarossa clean his Ferrari looks amazing and I would love to use your product on my 1967 firebird restored thank you and have a great day
I used denim pad with my DA with heavy cut M105 compound and it worked perfect for orange peel removal. I didnt have to do actual sanding. Finished with regular soft polishing pad with M205 compound
@jordanweaver9658
5 ай бұрын
I think its more often used on aftermarket paint, which tends to be thicker and harder? So sanding is faster and safer than oem paint. Correct me if I'm wrong!
@yuvalkapellner2551
5 ай бұрын
@@jordanweaver9658 i performed it on both originally painted surfaces and repainted surfaces. Referring to use of Denim pad, not sanding. Worked well on both, it is much safer to go with denim pad and da machine.
I WISH MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THE DIFINITION OF.....EXCELLENCE!!!!!!
The part when i heard it was daily driven by the owner, made my day!
Finally. Was waiting for the porsche
Very great key point of this video is “there are a lot more reasons NOT to sand your car paint then there is.”
@peni80085
3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't even mean anything
@vaschy2330
2 жыл бұрын
@@peni80085 it should only be done if your car has plenty of clear coat because if not in a few weeks or months your clear coat might fail and the car will have to be painted again. You should always request for a lot of clear coat layers if you ever get your car painted its worth paying more
Larry, I think you forgot to put the kickstarter link in the description.
@pivottools
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, just a heads up, the link is now in the description!
Awesome class Larry & Jason!!!! Question??? How do I correct those edges without sand them out? Thanks
Beautiful car !!
Wonderful car
“We need to make sure that the paint is okay!!” My line every time at the shop 😂😂😂
I´m not even into such things. YT, what the hell is with your recommendations?! And I LOVE this! :) Very interesting and informative.
Nice one... i do a lot of sanding on custom paint. 👊🏻
Is nice watching professional doing this kind of job🤌🤌🤌🤌💯% perfection 😁.
Looks Badass 🇺🇸
Great video I'm going to have a go on my car
The measured paint thickness on this car is overstated because it also includes the layers that were painted over.
Awesome !!!
Larry, what do I have to do for my car to be a "demonstration vehicle?" 😂 Great video as usual, man. Very insightful. Think you might go a little bit more into how to tell how hard a particular paint is? Rock on!
Very informative thank you very much
Good music upgrade, I like!
Really nice
I am a scale modeller in my free time and I prevent orange peel using additives in the paint like drying retarder. It slows the curing time but it helps the paint to level itself out and also prevent dry paint on the airbrush nosel. Isn't it the same for a larger scale or...? I mean if it's an aftermarket paint I would imagine they use paint enhancers or something.
The best to ever do it 👍
That 210 amg in the end🥰
Great video! Results were absolutely fantastic! Where in CT is your shop?
Good thing you did a paint test :P
I can really appreciate your tutorial on this job. I'm still nervous about doing my 2008 'Vette Velocity Yellow Tintcoat. I've had the car for years, kept it in the garage, and have never done a detailing. Three plus years ago, I made the mistake of parking overnight out of town near a maple tree in the Spring and got some nasty gum on it. Plus, I never cleaned it off properly. So, there are some steps I'll have to take first to get the tree residue off before I can start such a project. But, I also don't want to really spend $1,000+ getting a "professional" to do it since not all detailers are created equal. I know that doing a good job and doing "too much" is a fine line. And, staying away from sharp edges must be at the forefront. I'll probably continue to procrastinate.
@schafer240
2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for years, fast and easy fix on tree sap or anything nasty, even overspray is to use lacker thinner on a cloth or microfiber, to remove it. Then immediately spray wax and grease remover over double the area you wiped to neutralize the lacker thinner. Don't skip the last step lacker thinner is some nasty stuff and if left it will eat paint. Follow that and it's quick fast and easy, not usually the case.
Suggesting there's a 'ton of paint to work with' based on the paint depth readings on a resprayed car is a bit misleading. Unless you know for a fact that the vehicle you're working on was sanded all the way back to the original substrate before the new paint went down, then it's really just a crap shoot. Sure, you can do your door shut comparisons to get perhaps a bit of insight, but it's still a toss up. Just thought that was worth mentioning! Great video as usual, Larry.
hello, great video, I have a few questions - how many micron do you think the process is removing? - up to what thickness can the process be carried out? I mean the minimum thickness to which you would say to yourself no, this process cannot otherwise we remove all the varnish?
Awesome your in Rhode Island right now wish I could meet you
Hi Ammo, generally speaking do you recommend under carriage coatings? or do you think regular undercarriage cleaning is better? I live in CT so winters can be rough with all the salt. thanks love the content