How to Use the NEC's EMIStream Extension in Altium Designer
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If you listened to the OnTrack Podcast episode with Yoshi Fukuwa, you're already aware of the EMI Design rule checker available through the EMIStream extension in Altium Designer. In this video, Tech Consultant Zach Peterson dives deep on this tool and what makes it different from others.
0:00 Intro
0:55 Accessing the EMIStream Extension
3:38 Where's the Ground
5:14 What Makes EMIStream Different
6:36 Finding EMI Problems
9:11 Changing the Stackup
11:51 Uniform Ground
13:27 Stitching Vias?
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Hello Zach, thanks for the video! I feel that it came just on time as I found this extention today and I was really curious about it. :)
@unprintable469
Жыл бұрын
Let us know how much it will cost ;)
@AltiumAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
When i try to start EMI checker or Plane Resonance Analyzer i get the following error message "A license file (license.dat) doesn't exist in the following directory" Why would i get this?
@timbarlow5682
Жыл бұрын
Yep need a license to use this. That is not mentioned in any of the videos. So not very useful out of the box.
@myetis1990
Жыл бұрын
ERROR solved: "Because we are totally poor" :)
Watching these videos gets me itchy fingers, to do real hardware projects again.
Hey Zach! each time I can't help to suspect the EMI and SI PI aspects, so these kinds of videos sound to me like relaxation videos, thank you very much :) Do you think to start a project from scratch so that we see the evaluation in every aspect of design? ( It would be great a project about a gps tracker or kinda som )
@Zachariah-Peterson
Жыл бұрын
Well there is one particular GPS tracker that I've modified from an open source project.... might be interesting to take a look at it in these tools!
Hey Zach I want to understand how we can solve the ground bounce in the PCB. I am facing a problem with the ground plane, the voltage between two ground which are MCU GND and Gate Driver GND is a deflection of 2.5v to 3v while disengagement of mosfet.
@Zachariah-Peterson
2 ай бұрын
Are you sure this is ground bounce? It sounds like you have a floating ground on one component for no reason, and the floating ground has developed a potential offset with respect to the remaining system ground. Most likely just use a single ground plane unless you have a reason to have an "MCU GND" and a ""gate driver GND"
For the example problem (maybe not for the rest of the board), it looked like there was plenty of room to spread the traces farther apart. Would running extra ground traces between some of them solve the issue without going to extra layers? Or at least doing that to bridge such gaps? (In case only some portions of the lines had enough extra room for a ground trace in between.)
@bzolitb
11 ай бұрын
Placing stitching via would solve the return path discontinuity without adding any extra GND layer. The concern with running signals in a batch is the crosstalk due to inductive coupling between signals. Rule of thumb: gap > track width x 1,5-2
It's a licenced extension - good luck trying to find a price.
@robertbox5399
Жыл бұрын
This annoys me hugely. I don't have time to evaluate products and tools (and deal with sales reps) when I know management will laugh me out of the office when I finally get a quote that only NASA or Boeing could afford.
Actually wasted 16 minutes after recognizing that you need a license for this extension, and unfortunately, they (NEC) don't even communicate a price. So it's based on what? I am pretty annoyed... 😐
@chromatec4311
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just wasted my time as well - I really wish Altium and Zach would give us all the information when teasing us with potentially useful extensions.
@myetis1990
Жыл бұрын
Actually, this is not true because you can learn many things without using this extension in this video. using more gnd planes improves performance, analysing the return path is not to do with the license.
@bzolitb
11 ай бұрын
@@myetis1990adding additional layers to a stack-up is a quick, easy and expensive solution. In real life it is only done when the product is already close to production and there is no time for layout modification and the additional cost is unavoidable. There are other techniques to solve EMI concerns on a PCB without increasing the cost of PCB. Bear in mind this video is an Altium capability demo, not an EMI webinar.
Just noticed Zack is using an Acer laptop and talking about Ansys among other $$$$$$ tools. NASA and Universities need only apply...
@Zachariah-Peterson
Жыл бұрын
What you don't see is the server behind the camera man
$4000 for EMI design rules checker + $4000 for Plane resonance analyser! good luck with that
@unprintable469
Жыл бұрын
😂 was too good to be true, Altium should buy it and make it free for customers! 😅
@chromatec4311
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the cost - I'll pass on that.
@robertbox5399
Жыл бұрын
Get some more tools like those from Altair and Hyperlynx and you have yourselves a $1M piece of software!
@jonnymakers9560
9 ай бұрын
@@robertbox5399 I agree..this is complete bullshit...