How to use low-cut filters for mastering

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Learn more about how low-cut filters (also called high-pass filters) can be used in mastering!
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💚 Sofia & Thomas
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00:00 - Intro
00:27 - #1 - Cutting the lows
04:07 - #2 - Adding more bass
08:35 - #3 - Narrowing the low-end
11:38 - Outro
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Music credit:
cdk - Sunday by Analog By Nature (c) copyright 2016 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. dig.ccmixter.org/files/cdk/53755

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  • @b1owire
    @b1owire Жыл бұрын

    That phase-shift trick before the limiter was great, and makes a huge difference to the sound.

  • @noah-g-audio5477
    @noah-g-audio5477 Жыл бұрын

    This is the BEST place on the internet for information on mastering. Thanks so much for answering all the nagging questions I have had for so long.

  • @mokadoggo5177
    @mokadoggo5177 Жыл бұрын

    I was mindblown as you explained harsher phase shift in HPF

  • @wolvesinsound
    @wolvesinsound Жыл бұрын

    Best mastering channel. I really like the natural way you explain such complex topics in mastering.

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so! 👍

  • @nambams
    @nambams Жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed. I always hesitated using HPF in scenarios where I wanted to avoid phase shift but thanks to you I can now see a positive use case for it.

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s great to hear! ☀️

  • @gambetta_
    @gambetta_6 күн бұрын

    5:30 very clever trick

  • @QuaverloveStudio
    @QuaverloveStudio4 ай бұрын

    Never understood phase shift until now... thank you!

  • @compoundaudio
    @compoundaudio Жыл бұрын

    Always a pleasure watching your videos and even if this is something already known or used in my day-to-day studio use. Your explanation and breakdown help further understand the terminology behind it....

  • @dsanj4745
    @dsanj4745 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting this very useful information. As a side note, it was refreshing to see the DMG equalizer rather than the ubiquitous FF offering.

  • @DaveRave23
    @DaveRave23 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Thomas, love the way you help me through this. Love the second one

  • @Owl-qh2rh
    @Owl-qh2rhАй бұрын

    Brilliant! Thank you 🙏🕊️

  • @philburns5656
    @philburns5656 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanations! Thanks very much!

  • @realbluec7641
    @realbluec7641 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative!! Thank you.

  • @nosucherror
    @nosucherror Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation, thanks!

  • @michaeltablet8577
    @michaeltablet8577 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you again so very much!

  • @andersjanocha6960
    @andersjanocha6960 Жыл бұрын

    Invaluable information, thank you very much.

  • @vondano
    @vondano Жыл бұрын

    good job! I learned stuff! thank you. will follow.

  • @EdwinDekker71
    @EdwinDekker71 Жыл бұрын

    Great video👍

  • @highbred
    @highbred Жыл бұрын

    huge info, thanks man! Very much appreciate the detailed explanations

  • @jon0830
    @jon0830 Жыл бұрын

    answered so many questions in my mind about HPF/mastering, thank you

  • @Beatamins
    @Beatamins Жыл бұрын

    Amazing explanation !!

  • @robhouse1926
    @robhouse1926 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Thomas!

  • @fanga-j1672
    @fanga-j1672 Жыл бұрын

    Wow this video is very instructive 👌🏽🔥

  • @fredrikh9299
    @fredrikh9299 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, that´s just sooo informative. Swedes rock :)

  • @MR_Cellarpop
    @MR_Cellarpop Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @ayrtoncossa2534
    @ayrtoncossa2534 Жыл бұрын

    Best mastering tutorials

  • @ayrtoncossa2534

    @ayrtoncossa2534

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why there are few likes 😅... Not every producers understand that they need this... Your material is gol... Thanks... From Africa - Mozambique 🇲🇿

  • @ryde2012
    @ryde2012 Жыл бұрын

    Wow glad I come across this channel, very well explained on a simple technique just subscribed 🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏾

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome aboard! 🔥

  • @tasteapiana
    @tasteapiana Жыл бұрын

    I have tried and tried and tried to explain tip 2 here forever to people and no one really gets it. Transient response to phase shifted frequencies can be plotted in steps of milliseconds, typically in increments of less than 10ms per 1/3 octave in 2nd order slopes (6db electrical ie CR or RC, not 12db as audible slopes are referred to in active filtering) for lower frequencies to around 3ms above 2.8k or so. It's a big issue to some when to use linear filtering as ring modulation is a fact of that life. My advice is to avoid Q above 1 (0.71) whenever possible and when you can't do that use it ONLY when you can afford to change the surrounding frequencies in a tonal (time skewed) way - keeping in mind that the safety margin is always greater than 1/3 octave out from whatever the plotted line of the slope is. At the recording stage, if you know these things and if you can record a solid source accordingly to avoid this issue, do so, altering the source in other ways during mix takes time and complicated steps, by the mastering stage you are pretty well stuck with very gentle real time filtering - unless you have the patience and understanding it takes to parallel process everything using additive subtraction (multiple layers of gentle slopes to bleed the phase shifts out more gradually over a larger region - which only crazy people will or even can do lol). Using a steep pass filter as you suggest is an artistic decision as it does de-correlate tonal perception and I'm glad you mentioned consulting with the client as a mastering engineer, as those who cut vinyl rarely will because avoiding the needle popping out of the groove is just taken as granted, a no-brainer that doesn't require anyone's approval. It's not just single sloped filters we have to pay attention to, though, and I use Q above 3 on occasion even within 1k-8k but I do so KNOWING how it will fill the space and drag down or isolate transient perception. In fact, I have intentionally recorded guitar tracks with phase anomalies so that when mixed I can separate them with addition shifts. It takes a lot of time to do that and you're dealing with between 60 to 120 degrees out which is then pushed an additional 120 to 60 degrees, respectively but it can make a 2 guitar band instantly identifiable without panning each around so that neither lose out in a mono environment. That's craziness for 99% of us to even contemplate but it is possible. Your video here is a great introduction to the subject. Subbed.

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment! Me and Sofia had to take a moment to discuss it. We might revisit this subject in a follow-up video later. But yeah, manipulating phase shift and ringing can surely range from inaudible to very obvious. Thanks for your thorough input! /Thomas

  • @G_handle
    @G_handle Жыл бұрын

    Hey Guys, I'm revisiting this video with a couple slightly on/slightly off topic questions. Both are to increase my understanding of how Low Cut Filters come into play, mostly during mixing: (BTW, Tip #2 is the obvious gold in this video!) 1) As to the EEQ filter in the sides used for Mastering to Vinyl that you discussed here (6dB/octave at 150 or 300Hz on the side signal?), would there be a benefit to adding such a filter on the 2-bus during Mixing, and mixing 'into' it? It seems logical that if this is one of the things a Mastering Engineer would do Pro-Forma at least for Vinyl, then mixing into it from the start and getting everything to sit with this in place would lead to no surprises when the master is returned, and generally delivering something that's a bit more finished to that next stage. What are the downsides of this EEQ? 2) Similarly, as I understand it, the benefits of "mono-ing the bass" extend beyond just vinyl and keeping the needle in the groove. A) On real world Stereo playback systems, having the low end energy "monoed" means that both drivers are dividing the workload and therefore each can work slightly less to achieve the given desired low end balance, and since low frequencies are mostly omnidirectional and hard to localize, there isn't really a stereo image loss by doing so. Thoughts? B) In real world venues such as clubs or concerts, "mono-ing the bass" means even-distribution whether the listener is in the center of the room or off to either the far right or left. The 'foundation' of the music would remain relatively consistent and the stereo image would come primarily from the 'tops'. This combined with the usual practice of centering the Kick, Snare, Bass, and Lead Vocal instruments, then panning the 'support' instruments, seems to all lead to a consistent listening experience in any venue where the listener can't be perfectly triangulated between two monitors. Is that right? C) And perhaps most interesting, when listening to a Stereo Mix on Headphones as opposed to Speakers, because sound in the left channel no longer enters the right ear and vice versa, panning and stereo imaging can be quite different when listening on one or the other. I've been reading that because of this you Can't pan nearly as wide on headphones as you can get away with on speakers. But I've also read that if you Mono the low frequencies, or low cut the sides (difference?), you will be allowed to pan a source much wider before the stereo image 'breaks'. I haven't had time yet to experiment with this (still re-building my new studio), but I am imagining that with a variable low-cut in one hand and a widening knob in the other (both operating on the side signal), these two are interrelated and decreasing the first would allow more increase of the second. Im also wondering though if like Question 1, I implemented an EEQ from the start of the mix (and you've given some actual standards of 150 or 300), if Panning/Widening the mix would become more intuitive and translate more consistently right out of the gate. Hopefully this thought exercise isn't completely wacky, and if so please let me know what I'm missing. Either way, Thanks you guys for everything you do. We are paying attention!

  • @phadrus
    @phadrus Жыл бұрын

    Geat!

  • @Reggi_Sample
    @Reggi_Sample7 ай бұрын

    Is this what Ozone type 4 irc settings do prior to maximising?

  • @davidk3872
    @davidk3872 Жыл бұрын

    thnks 8:58

  • @OperculumAudio
    @OperculumAudio Жыл бұрын

    When you apply the low cut to the Kik are you using linear phase EQ? I know that using linear phase EQ causes timing issues and I was wondering if that's how you achieved the delay of the lower frequencies in the Kick vs the higher frequencies in the Kik

  • @MrSkyTown
    @MrSkyTown Жыл бұрын

    Obviously it’s better to get a better balance in the mixing stage but if I have low end that’s a bit too much is that something that can ruin the mix, I find when I turn down my kick and bass together in the mix then the snare becomes to loud and all the other percussion elements, been really hard for me to overcome this low end balance issue

  • @tanglung4379
    @tanglung4379 Жыл бұрын

    Hi , in a mastering chain where do we place the low cut side , before or After what , thank a lot .

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually have the low-cut early in the chain, before any dynamic processing. But if I'm doing the phase-shift trick (#2) then it will be wherever it sounds the best. /Thomas

  • @tanglung4379

    @tanglung4379

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MasteringExplained ok thanks .

  • @djhamimusic
    @djhamimusic Жыл бұрын

    Hey.. what is the best spectrum analyzer which is compatible for mixing and mastering please ?

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually use the one in DMG Equilibrium. /Thomas

  • @djhamimusic

    @djhamimusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MasteringExplained thanks for the feedback Mr Thomas, I Will try it

  • @molandsonsmotors9690
    @molandsonsmotors9690 Жыл бұрын

    Would it make sence to put a steep filter like that on a kick n bass bus instead of a whole mix?

  • @Bittamin

    @Bittamin

    Жыл бұрын

    Any idea is worth trying!

  • @MasteringExplained

    @MasteringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, if it sounds good! Although there are usually more options available when mixing. /Thomas

  • @carldock5223
    @carldock5223 Жыл бұрын

    In fact there is a trick to totally remove freq like no filter does, but I’m not going to say that! :)

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