Give a thumbs up for the audio quality of this caller!

@jacobb.8967

2 жыл бұрын

@crushlivepoker hey Bart are you doing any streams soon? Playing or commentary? Just curious and thanks for your contribution to poker.

@nickbnash

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. His audio was fantastic! Thanks for the great video Bart.

@fevolenko3995

2 жыл бұрын

I thought this hand was pretty straight forward. Heres my logic on it.... Villain had a pair, based on his J high claim, likely JJ. He initially did the "I have a pair so Hero has AK" read. On flop he raises big because no one folds AK on that flop for min raise or even 2x. On brick turn he decides to put Hero to test agaun, and basically hopes if he's behind and Hero calls its check check on river. When Hero shoves, villain accepts his JJ is most likely no good and makes a disciplined fold. He tells Hero he had J high because he's a poker player and always misrepresents his losing hand, esp to not let Hero know that he's willing to fold JJ...

@THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like he's got better than Barts Shure 7B or it's an EQ type thing

@robert2375

2 жыл бұрын

Bart say's def call the turn... on the river, are we ever folding?

Learn a lot from this channel. Deserves way more views. Thanks for the free lessons

This was a great video to coach post flop play. Maybe the best one yet.

Excellent analysis as usual. Appreciate your videos👍

Hand was played great. You can only deviate from the callers line if you have super solid info on villian

Folding to the 5th street chicken is soo painful to the stomach! After I put all that money in and then fold on the river. I'll definitely remember that term tho!

I like the jam on the turn. TT/JJ will probably call off as well as FDs, maybe AK if villain is really sticky. Any A,K, or club on the river is not good for us yet we would still have to call down. Sure we can be getting trapped by aces/ kings sometimes (aces more often) but most live players will want to get as much money in pre as they can so they don’t have to navigate situations like this

To the caller: You should be playing 2/5 more. You clearly have a good understanding of the game. At least where I'm from, 2/5 is full of whales. You'd easily be a winning player at this level where I'm from.

@OneCheezyPizza

2 жыл бұрын

where do you play

@davidr1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@OneCheezyPizza Jamul I’m San Diego

@OneCheezyPizza

2 жыл бұрын

have you ever played at oceans 11? I heard the action is very good over there.

@davidr1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@OneCheezyPizza a little bit a few years ago when I barely knew how to play.

66-88, TT-QQ, T9 and 98s raise for protection/equity denial. Occasionally KK,AA. 99 shouldn't raise often and 22/33 shouldn't be in there often, but, you know how that goes. 🙄

@kzkilla808

2 жыл бұрын

I think this nails the villans range pretty well on flop. I might add A9 and some additional random hands depending on what I think about this particular villain but this is a good starting point in my mind.

@consumer61

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, and would add some AK, some JTs

@elliotsmeal3516

2 жыл бұрын

@@consumer61 I was focusing on what Vs value range looked like as opposed to his bluffing range. That said, I think some AK that didn't 4b can call OTF.

I only play tournaments but I love your videos and they do help with deep stack play. Question (at the risk of sounding like a fish) pocket 2's and 3's don't call LP or BB 3bets here?

Great Call and analysis. In theory land I think the solver is way more polar. Solvers are gonna be checking back open ended straight draws and non nut flush draws because they hate bet folding that much equity and/or calling it off with a potentially dominated draw. Alot of villians bluffs will come from shitty gutshots like 55 and 44 and 0 equity hands that dont interact with OOP folding rrange and dont care to bet fold. (Not positive, I've just seen this concept alot) Great work Bart!

I’m shipping it on the turn and if he has it I’m just crying in the car 🤷🏿‍♂️

@blazeron12

2 жыл бұрын

Real men cry on the drive home after a bad session

What’s stopping him from firing on the river if it’s not a brick? He can be firing with 9’s 2’s 3’s or J10, 45, 56, A4, A5.

Great KC Lowball reference

How often does your opponent have AK and you are not letting him see the river? I say it's a pretty decent possibility. The jam is ok on the river here in my eyes. Pretty much pot committed anyways.

I play in the 2/5 at MarylandLive a lot, and there are a bunch of players who might blast off with air in this situation

i do like the concept of the 5th street chicken rule, however what if our opponents just continue bluffing despite there not being much perceived fold equity? in this specific spot, we'd also being getting better than 3 to 1 , so i just feeling like calling turn and check/folding river sounds great in theory but it's still kinda hard to just do it in real time

@thakurv1

Жыл бұрын

What if ?

I’d remove sets from villains range when he goes from $80 to $300 on that flop. That’s a fold now raise. If he has value I’d say it’s JJ and TT almost always. Maybe KK if your beat but I doubt it.

I do think the shove is fine...denied equity assuming the villain had some equity..(which he may not have had)

Had a similar spot last week. 2-4 1k eff. UTG (assumed reg) raises to 20, MP calls. Hero BTN raises to 80 with JJ, both call. Flop comes 2-3-4 rainbow. Check check and hero bets 110. Now the UTG raises to 580, MP folds. This didnt make sense at all to me, maybe some A5 56s type of hand that is fast playing, but the sizing is way too big. I either have to jam or fold in this spot and after tanking, I exploitatively folded. Afterwards I think i shouldve jammed, because maybe 10s or 9s even takes this line as a weird protection bet for overcards. Any opinions as if this is just always a jam?

@modestomouso1234

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, yeah that’s a very weird x/r from UTG. If he had A5s, why would he play it this way, allowing you to fold all your over-pairs and AK/AQ? Would he play 33/44 this way? Or AA/KK he chose to slow play pre and didn’t 4bet? Another hand I could maybe see doing this would be 55, but again, why raise so large? Really weird spot. Did you find out what he had? I would be chatting him up trying to find out what he did that with lol.

@modestomouso1234

2 жыл бұрын

And had he been getting OOL in the session? Curious if you saw him make big bets with bluffy hands

@leonverhoef6669

2 жыл бұрын

@@modestomouso1234 I played with him on a lot of different nights and never saw him get really OOL. That night I just sat down and the table looked way more action heavy compared to normal. But still I think he would play solid most of the time. I suppose this was one of the times he did get way out of line as he showed me 97s for completely nothing. He said that he just had a read I would fold and I guess he was right this time.

@why-even-try-brotendo

2 жыл бұрын

Too many times I have jammed into a guy who was set mining and hit in a situation like this. I try to play pot control with JJ and hope for a good run out. It might not be solid poker overall but every time I see JJ I cringe and play sort of passively. It has also served me well when I hit a set on the flop as my hand is very under repped.

@modestomouso1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonverhoef6669 well at least now you know he’s capable of making really big x/r bluffs with air. Always good info to have. Sucks when you have to call down a triple barrel bluff with just an over-pair tho, lol.

Your action in 2-7 isn't *just* because of betting. You also get to see how many cards the other person draws. If you were going to play two round (preflop, whole board) HE you would only have the betting to base a decision on. That is 1/2 the game of NL 2-7. Arguable TD 2-7 with draws and betting has more info than HE. It just feels odd to players who are use to community cards.

The flop was referred to as dynamic, multiple times, isn't this flop texture like the definition of dry/static?

@StevenWatts

2 жыл бұрын

It’s 9 high so it’s dynamic due to the many over cards that can come

@domenicfieldhouse5644

2 жыл бұрын

@@StevenWatts ah ofc, thanks

@pot_kivach160

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenWatts 😂 then all flops are dynamic!!

Villain doesn’t have odds to call a jam with an open ender. Could be j10 but most likely it’s a gutter to the wheel imo.

Bart breaking out the predicate logic. :-) I'm going to need to see truth tables and a proof for your conclusions.

dont see how the title fits the content

Villain raised to $300 with sets maybe afraid of straight draw? Could that be a possibility?

@crazydonkey110

2 жыл бұрын

lol this is why poker is alive and well...what straight draws are you afraid of on 9 2 3?? don't forget hero 3-bet pre so the only straight draws in range will be gut shots (A5, A4) and that's only 2 hands and they only have 4 outs each so why would you be so scared of straight draws?

@timoritofau

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazydonkey110 I 3 bet 45suited frequently 🤣

If the villain is a really good player, and is aware that this guy usually plays smaller stakes, isn’t a regular in this game, he may have seen the small flop bet as someone playing with scared money, and felt like he could bully him in position to buy the pot. He probably deduced that the small bet was maybe a blocker bet, or an ace high bet, and decided to try to outplay him.

3 minutes and 30 seconds and I think he does this with tens, jacks, maybe some suited connectors with a nine maybe A9 suited

To me, flop SCREAMED wheel draw or 9x, especially A9. Imo a wheel draw is not a good bet for villain on the turn, check for the free card. 9x bets there, maybe. Overall the turn bet by villain reads as pretty wacky to me. I probably call and play fifth street chicken. I think. Not 100% sure. Good jam if you we’re going to fold to the reckless bluffs.

Idk, I might plan to call turn, call river. If the dudes a maniac and is capable of bluffing all streets, that’s the better play. Jamming the turn only blows the guy off his bluffs and only gets called by better.

Yeah.. I would have folded on the turn too... Villian had nothing surprised me as well

I haven't finished the video yet, about half way done, but this is screaming aks of sorts...

Bart say's def call the turn... on the river, are we ever folding?

A lot of poor players online spaz on dry flops like that vs 1/3p cbets. In their head they always assume you whiffed with something like AK & that your small bet validates their logic. Only flaw caller (seems pretty sharp) might have is assuming most people are at his same poker level.

2-7 NL single draw is the Cadillac of NL poker = Pitch for Rounders 2

Is the caller trying to do ASMR?

Does anyone else think the caller sounds like brantzen from branzten poker ? another vlogger?

Villain didn't have Jack high as it makes no sense on this board. He only said it to make it look like he had 0% equity so the hero feels like it was a mistake to raise.

@ams54321

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's talking shite

Is ignition poker a scam site? Also what about betonline? In my experience I've seen way too many coolers and weird hands on betonline to think anything other than it's a scam site. Would really like to play somewhere online tho.... so please give thoughts on ignition and even global poker please...? Thank you. I live in a state where only those 3i can play on so there's that. Also what is this Mark Goons guys twitch?

@youngingbrown

2 жыл бұрын

Betonline is legit used to play there before my state got legal. Also America's card room is good too. Ignition sucks

@sneakkyz3696

2 жыл бұрын

@@youngingbrown there's literally 0 possible way betonline is legit. I've been a winning poker player for 25 years and the amount of bad beats/coolers I've seen and been a part of its absolutely ridiculous! It's literally mathematically impossible to lose with 2nd nuts against top nuts as often as it's happened to me and others I've seen. And how many times I've been in a spot where I put someone all in on the turn and they call with middle pair or even bottom pair and "magically" hit their miracle card on the river is nutty af!!! It's happened so many times bro its actually unreal. It just happened for the last time yesterday to me.....I FINALLY said enough with that stupid fkn site!!!! And back to my point of being a winning player for 25 years, I've never once evert cashed out on betonline other than yesterday when i took my money out and ran.

@squishypancake

2 жыл бұрын

@@sneakkyz3696 sore loser… bet online is a legit site, sounds like you need to get in the lab and up your game

@sneakkyz3696

2 жыл бұрын

@@squishypancake lol.... guarantee I've made more playing poker in 1 month than you're whole life

@everythingallin4905

2 жыл бұрын

@@sneakkyz3696 online poker is a different animal. You play more hands so it's only a matter of time before incredible odds run against you. Also you don't get paid off in as many spots as you should online so it's harder to get value when you have it vs live where the chips represent ego.

Chael sonnen not only crushes mma but crushes no limit

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Conditional arguments are called ‘if-then’ arguments, not ‘if-than’.

Sounds like this villian would of followed through if we flat turn, so folding would of been a disaster. Make a note for him!

coole Sache! Mich würde die Geschichte und die jetzige Meinung seiner Eltern dazu interessieren, vllt eine video dazu, wäre toll! ❤

Not sure why peeps play on ignition and surprised it ain't been shut down yet what a bs site lol good luck 🤞

It’s called introduction to LOGIC

You asked for a raise on the flop with your about 1/4 bet not 1/3 … u get what u wanted … ur man to put you on ak, so then you gotta call the turn and river unless you change ur mind and put him on a set …. This is where u need to know your villains range

Do you own a doghouse?

Not conditional philosophy, conditional REASONING

He cant have J high if he has JQ

"Jack high". lol - He's either a terrible liar or a brilliant liar. Either way, he's a liar. I'll sometimes tell people I folded a hand that would make absolutely no sense for me to play the way I played it just to confuse them. That might be what happened here. More than likely, he had a hand like J9 that included a J so he can credibly say he had a J. He might have also had JJ. But that just seems so bizarre. Is he bluffing with JJ? Did he just get scared at the turn check raise shove and figure his JJ was no good? That would be like a 4th street chicken if we're using the terminology. The question then is why not check it back on the turn with JJ and try to get to showdown. But then he's raising a super dry flop, checking back a brick turn, and then what on the river? He's afraid of facing a river bet and not knowing what to do or where he's at. So, he sets the price on the turn and gives himself the chance to fold before facing a bad river spot. I don't know if that's what happened but it makes sense.

He was bluffing . Maybe 4/5 suited and he lost the flush draw

My guess is he have set of 3s

@MrBleedk

2 жыл бұрын

But any set would play the same.

lol the guy talks about playing "super deep" you're playing 1k max bud.

It’s live poker right … all these videos and you never discuss the “villains” play style and what u think they think about your style …. You guys may as well play online

On the flop you have to shove or fold you can't improve

@domenicfieldhouse5644

2 жыл бұрын

Nah villain has polarised and by shoving flop we let him call with all of his value and his bluffs, we wanna extract value from his lower equity hands, and it doesn't matter if we can't improve?, if we are behind the fact we can't improve is terrible, in that we are re polarising into a polarised range allowing villain to play perfectly, if we are ahead then we are just letting him fold all the time he is behind, there is like no reason to shove flop with QQ

these guys voices sound almost identical

This downbetting flop trend is annoying

@clapforboobies5892

2 жыл бұрын

@John Megahan I guess it only works at higher stakes then. 1/3 players continue no matter sizing

Bart is not good imo

Villain doesn’t have odds to call a jam with an open ender. Could be j10 but most likely it’s a gutter to the wheel imo.