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@DNeil5

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, appreciate the feedback!

Guy explained external sidechain like it was a secret.

@jenyahp2828

2 ай бұрын

Serched for this comment. lol PS: Pro MB is suited for this kind of thing much better. You can actually put the right amount of attack, release, knee and whatever on the sound source. Not just click on Auto mode.

@MARQUESSONICS

2 ай бұрын

yeah just clickbait

I also use this to fit vocals into a mix. Routing all instrumental tracks to an instrumental bus, the using the match EQ option to find overlapping frequencies with the vocals. Then I just drag the overlapping ones to zero and apply a really subtle dynamic EQ for all of them (usually no more than -1 DB). Not only will it clear the mix, it also helps to show when vocals are too quiet because then this setting will be more obvious. Trackspacer is another good plug-in dedicated to this, even lets you adjust the attack and release.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@brennyC

2 ай бұрын

I use Focusrite Fast Reveal

@Zenvo-uu9tm

2 ай бұрын

Or soothe

@Ped0P1gYOUTUBE

2 ай бұрын

Soothe is much easier. Just sidechain vocal bus to the instrument bus (not drum bus)

@xrabbz2010

2 ай бұрын

Agree on trackspacer, I put it in mid/side mode so it only dips out the mid signal since the vocal is mostly mid. Works a treat

Thanks, definitely gonna use these tips. I never got into the deep of ProQ and only used it for regular EQ'ing. Being able to see the 2 frequency spectrums is gonna be really helpful for mixing.

Had no idea this was buried in Pro Q 3, thank you! Seeing that overlap color really makes this more useful than using Pro MB.

@tmxband

2 ай бұрын

MB is better for this purpose and it also shows overlap. The difference is that the Q3 is limited as it has no attack - decay what is kinda essential for proper sidechaining.

@pianoatthirty

2 ай бұрын

@@tmxband Very true! Forgot about that. I've also been using ToneBoosters EQ a lot these days and its dynamic EQ does have attack and release!

I didn't know this. Thank you! I've been using different kinds of methods for sidechaining kick and bass but will definately give this a try.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely nice for tucking in some frequencies here and there!

Very useful, thnx a lot!❤

I didn't know about this little hidden gem in the ProQ3.. and I love it.. thanks!.. and by the way I've used your mixing cheatsheet and it definitely helped get me started with my mixes.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

So glad to hear that! Thanks so much for the kind feedback :)

Thanks for the video, great tip🤝

Congrat , you go straight to the thing , very efficient, no blabla

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it, thanks!

Awesome! Thank you!

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

No problem! :)

Thank you

Richtig guter und wichtiger Tipp. Thank you.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Happy to help :)

I need to start reading the manuals, or just watching your channel!!!! haha. That’s awesome, thank you brother. ❤️‍🔥

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Happy to help :)

Wow … using Pro Q3 for years as standard EQ and never knew that. Thx!

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Happy to help! It’s a cool buried feature

didnt know this. good stuff

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I'll use busses for a final mix but I've never been a big 'sidechainer'. I usually already have ProQ3 on just about every instrument track already. So I just pop up the plugin on any 2 tracks and the visual graph makes is so easy to see who's battling for what space. I just look at the 2 frequency graphs and make adjustments as needed.

Great Video 👌

Why use a Bus instead of just sidechaining from the Kick track directly?

did not know...cheers for this one

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Cheers! It’s a cool little feature

Question from beginner: why did you sidechain to the bus instead of the kick directly???

@gravityfreaksmusic

Ай бұрын

So ylou could potentially sidechain different frequencies from other channels.

I didn't know this was there either. Thanks, subscribed.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! :)

I didn't know about this by the way. Good work man 👍🏼

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it!

Cool man!

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Cool feature right? :)

I wonder how strongly this effect will fuck up any form of phase allignment one may setup between the kick & bass?

thanks very much for the tip

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

No problem!

This is great, that button slipped past me too, thanks for this

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

Soothe2 in sidechain mode is also absolutely fantastic for this same purpose, and alot quicker to setup.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

I use Soothe2 for that all the time too, it’s so good! Takes me about the same amount of time to set up a side chain though, about a couple seconds for each plugin lol

@RokSivante

2 ай бұрын

@@audioedges Depends on workflow, suppose… I set the default template on Soothe2 specifically for that purpose, so it’s good to go right away - versus extra steps with ProQ of another instance on other track, setting for the visual overlap with it, manually figuring out the frequencies, and few steps to set dynamic EQ - so is significantly quicker, though perhaps wouldn’t be that big a difference if working from Soothe2 starting from scratch. Still use the dynamic on ProQ alot though as is great. Both totally replaced Trackspacer for me though, lol. 🍻

alex always fun watching your vidoes

@audioedges

Ай бұрын

Thanks r0bz! :)

@r0bzmusic777

Ай бұрын

@@audioedges np watch my last song with lil tyrone tell me what you think watch?v=cMB2yJV7nhc

there is another sidechain option at the bottom. whats the difference?

It’s cool but I wish you could control attack and release. Waves C6 does this

I bounce back and forth between PRO Q3 - still my standard, and now Sonible’s smart EQ series. V4 let’s you do this with several tracks, does Pro Q? I never knew about this feature!

I've been doing this trick with various dynamic comps/EQ. However. Soothe 2 is by far the best tool for this. Not even close.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

I use a ton of different ones all the time for side-chaining too. Soothe2 is amazing and is one of my go-to’s!

someone able to show this in Ableton? I can't figure out the routing part

Just wondering why you use a send when you can just react directly to the kick, the send means there’s two kick signals now

I do a ton of SC-Compression with the Glue Compressor usually I’m Ableton. This one slipped by me 😮

Can't believe I missed this! I need to read more manuals 🤣

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

It’s a sneaky one haha!

Damn brother! I NEVER would have found that! Thx for the info. Which daw is that? Btw liked and subscribed!

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Glad you liked it! This is Pro Tools :)

@cthulholmhastur5317

2 ай бұрын

@@audioedges thank you for the response!

Thanks for the tip

Where is attack and release settings for that compression?

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Interestingly, Pro Q-3 doesn't have manually adjustable settings for the dynamic EQ. It's been carefully tuned and is program dependent, meaning the attack, release and knee depend on the audio, frequency range of the band and the dynamic range. So the EQ customizes itself, aiming to give a really natural and smooth compression based on the manual. Pretty useful for several applications, but if you want to get into the details of the attack and release yourself, I'd recommend going with a dedicated multiband compressor instead :)

@KUMStudio1

2 ай бұрын

@@audioedgesthank you for the answer. I thought so that is the case, but I wasn't sure.

Cubase Pro with Frequency does this out of the box. No need to get ProQ3, though that is a good EQ.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Nice! The video is mainly for Pro Q3 users that don’t know this feature, so if you have a different EQ that does this, that’s awesome! I believe Studio One’s stock EQ has some cool dynamic features as well.

@johnmcvicker6728

2 ай бұрын

@@audioedges this ducking of frequencies helps so much with unmasking, good to show it in one eq and it translates well. Now we have seen various unmasking tools that are selling that want to do the same thing automatically. Even some saying they are A.I. hard to mix any ore without side chain frequency ducking these days.

I know this existed, but I rarely use it since there is basically no control, and thus it often doesn’t work out as intended. No attack, release, ratio, knee, etc.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

I get that, though I still find it quite useful for some easy demasking moves to tighten things up. If you’re going for a full on sidechain there are a ton of great options out there beyond this simple dynamic EQ

feels like other DAW have this feature out of the box

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Some stock EQs do in Studio One and Cubase, I think! But not in Pro Tools unless I’m wrong!

ive always used the pro MB but damn didnt know proQ ddynamix can do that lol will have to try this !!

Some secret sauce ingredients are well hidden! Thanks for explaining! Will never use a different compressor to duck the bass with anymore!

@Retro-zn2jt

2 ай бұрын

bad idea, for example you can't precisely select the attack and release time here. In fact, it all depends on the context: you can always use a compressor, or a dynamic eq, or gain automation....

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

For sure, happy to help! Feel free to experiment with different plugins and see what sounds best for each case. I use Kickstart and Soothe2 to do this same move sometimes, but other times a quick ProQ3 sidechain does the trick! Whatever sounds best :)

I already knew

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Cool!

Was the bus added to the Kick or the Bass? The Buss says Kick at the top. Kinda confused?...Great video though, didn't know the magic button.

@audioedges

2 ай бұрын

Great question!The bus is being sent from the kick track, so we are sending the kick signal on the bus, which we then select as the sidechain trigger inside of Pro Q3 (which is on the bass track). Hope this helps :)

Spoiler: it's a sidechain button for a dynamic EQ band.

isn't that just sidechain eq ducking ?

@knotdone5292

2 ай бұрын

No. This is magic.

@Liatris

2 ай бұрын

Yes, but it's also showing you the overlapping frequencies.

Ok... All the "today year olds" lets like this video...

@MrMoviePhoneEx

2 ай бұрын

Damnit.

I'm not sure where this idea came from that the kick and bass are 'enemies'. There's no real reason to duck one for the other. That's why there are two instruments. Let them constructively interact.

Wait until you find out about the EQ match function. ZzZzzzZzZzZz :-)

magic button? maybe use things by name... sidechain... thanks. sensacionalist titles bah...

I just grab a spare bus buss number 5 then select it . God pro tools is useless and clunky . Nice tip though cheers

@pedrofranca3587

2 ай бұрын

What you said makes absolute no sense, this is exactly what he did

@timgosden5519

2 ай бұрын

You wouldn’t need to make a bus in any other DAW - that’s what he’s highlighting.

@itstobitan

2 ай бұрын

@@pedrofranca3587that’s the point. An absolute useless step and only needed in Pro Tools.

@user-xj8yl2dh4p

2 ай бұрын

@timgosden5519 it is fricking slow isn't it

@DavidComdico

2 ай бұрын

The routing in Pro Tools is more flexible than any other DAW. And it takes a second to route the sidechain. Lol.

I'll use busses for a final mix but I've never been a big 'sidechainer'. I usually already have ProQ3 on just about every instrument track already. So I just pop up the plugin on any 2 tracks and the visual graph makes is so easy to see who's battling for what space. I just look at the 2 frequency graphs and make adjustments as needed.