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@louispellon2162

Жыл бұрын

Aa@

After recently watching your videos, including this one, I was practicing trail braking for the first time today on a very curvy road (30 mph turns) with poor visibility around some of the turns. I was getting the hang of it after awhile and on what appeared to be a car-less section of road coming around a bend. Suddenly in front of me a line of cars were at a dead stop. I immediately further squeezed the brake gently and straightened the bike, stopping with room to spare and zero loss of tire traction. It really worked perfectly. Thanks Kevin for all the helpful riding tips!

I've had a very hard time wrapping my head around trial braking after watching several videos with good folks trying to explain it. It's not complicated, but the initial sum of questions is a bit daunting at first to grasp the applied concepts accurately. This video right here checked all of the boxes I've been looking for. On behalf of all aspiring & growing riders out there, we sincerely appreciate your dedication to quality education. This will save lives! As such, I am a proud supporter of MCRider on Patreon. Keep up the fantastic work. Thank you Kevin, and the entire MCRider team!

@MCrider

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate it.

@statefarmkid

4 жыл бұрын

Deon Pearson motojutsu has a very well explained trail break video as well. This guy and motojutsu are the best with riding advices.

@Igor12822

3 жыл бұрын

same here, questions with trail braking as it just interferes with throttle maintaining during lean, does not feel natural to hold both brake and gas... Guess I just got used to break precise and just enough before the corner and then if I continue using slight brake while inside of corner I just happen to slow down too much, and then I need additional throttle in middle of corner which is not good... Seriously I try to use this , exercise and find the benefits of it, still looks like it was easier without... I get the point of more control inside corner and braking further if must, but have hard time finding the entry speed now as I suppose I cant enter corner with exact speed as I did before without trail brake, need to enter it faster if I want to continue braking ?

Every video I have watched talks about the benefits of trail braking without going into exactly how to do it. Best video that I have seen on it here. Thanks for posting this.

One of the best, if not THE BEST explanation of trail breaking I’ve come across 👍Bye the way Kevin, nice Gold Wing 👌

The other thing that occurred to me is: eyes were you want to go.... tight turns work naturally when you are looking to your target.

Every time I thought of a missing piece of information or something I didn't understand, you addressed with your next sentence. Excellent. Best video on trail braking!

Trail breaking has really helped boost my confidence when cornering. By lightly and steadily applying the front brake only enough allows more control of your speed and control of the bike as needed. Thank you for this video 😊.

One of the best videos out there not even trailbreaking wise. Every beginner rider or trailbreaking newb should watch this.

been doing that technique for a couple of months now and I can definitely say that trail braking helps a lot not just when attacking corners but also for becoming a safer rider

Thank you so much for your care that you put into your instruction Kevin. I've been riding since the late 1970's, but never with this type of knowledge. I'm 59 now and I want to be as safe as I possibly can. I'm taking the turnpike home today and will definitely practice trail braking on the pristine corners provided by the turnpike. I also go to a nearby parking lot to practice. By the way, one of my co-workers was rear-ended in her car yesterday while she was stopped at a traffic light. For me this means I will always leave plenty of distance in front of me when stopped at a light, watch my mirrors, and have an escape route ready. Ride to live, live to ride.

One of the ways the term "trail braking" is confusing to some of us newbies is that most motorcycles have 2 separate braking systems. 1 for each wheel. And where the term can be confusing is in thinking that it applies to using only the rear brake. This is cleared up thru proper instruction and practice. And before some of you blow a gasket about me saying "most bikes having 2 brake systems"....the first bike I ever rode growing up was a Honda Trail 70. It had the common front brake on the right grip and the rear brake on the right foot peg. This bike did not have a clutch lever. Instead, it had a brake lever that linked both front and rear brakes. And at the time (35 years ago) I did not receive proper instruction from anyone. My father rode motorcycles most of his life, but I doubt he knew the term back in the early 80s when I was starting off on that Trail 70.

From Mountain Biking and Downhill Biking, we used to call it "feathering the brake", it's just touching the disks, not "grabbing a handful"! Helps in not surprising the tyres cos they're already aware you're "feathering" should you need to apply more mid turn (unlike being completely off the brakes mid turn but then needing to apply them "cold")! I've not been riding motorcycles that long, but I'm already an advocate of "feathering" / "trail braking", I even mentioned it to an advancing motorcycle group in the UK (IAM) and they didn't know what I was talking about!

WOW.....I am still trying to recover from your 1 foot or 2 feet down video! Never thought about the stop, till I watched it.

Okay this is by far the best video on trail braking I have seen yet. Especially with the live demonstration in the parking lot. With all this talk on trail braking and without seeing this demonstration it all had me thinking this was some sort of a new concept to cornering and after seeing this I realized it is something I have already been doing for many years. Funny how recently I have just now noticed it mentioned as such. It all had me thinking that it sounds so dangerous and if I had not seen this I would have forever wondered what I had been missing when I haven't been missing anything all along. Thank You so much for including this ride in the parking lot demonstration added to the classroom instruction!

Got your mail, clicked on your video and learned a new skill! Awesome!

Another great video with lots of useful information. Thanks Kevin.

Thanks for the information. Well explained and will practice the technique.

Braking just got more easier! Thanks MCrider!

Excellent video Kevin, especially your specific information about HOW to trail brake correctly. Many riders know the advantages of this technique, but are uncertain about how to do it, and worried about too much brake while leaned over, and crashing. You've clarified the whole matter nicely.

Hey Kevin, Between you, DDFM and motojitsu, I'd have to say your videos and explanations and demonstrations are probably about the best for this old fart! THANKS FOR HELPING ME BECOME A BETTER RIDER!

Great video Kevin!.. Just what I was looking for in regards to how to practice trail breaking. Cheers!

I'm from Fort Worth, but I'm doing a bit of work up here in Reno Nv...and brought my Indian w/me. Last w/e I drove into Lake Tahoe on the Old Rose Hwy....lots of twists and turns up and down the mountain...and I tried a little of both (based on last weeks video). It's a two lane highway....and I could sense a difference w/the speed and turns. I still prefer to adjust my speed before entering, and then accelerating as I get past mid point and while exiting.

Thank you so much for the video. Very simple exploration. Great video

One of the most useful videos I’ve seen!

Greatly appreciate your thoughts and advice.

Best walkthrough of trail braking I have seen, thanks!

Back again with an update; Due to vertigo, I have become a Can-Am Spyder rider. The RTL's seat is over 3 inches higher than the F3S which handles more like a go-cart whereas the other is great for long straight roads. I missed that part and bought the Top Of The Line RTL thinking...you know. The problem is, I'm a hairy curve and twisties guy! My thing wants to fling me off at every slight alteration in direction and I've worked on it virtually daily, improving some, for the past 5000 miles. Bottom line; a variation of trail braking basically doubled my curve/twisty speed on day one. I can't wait to see the results as I gain experience. Many thanks!

Very helpful. I particularly like it when you demonstrate how to do something.

Explained and demonstrated perfectly-thanks Kevin.

Very good demonstration on this. Been practicing it on my last few sessions and it does help a lot.

Great video Kevin! Thanks for helping all of us become safer and better riders.

New rider here. It seems to me that trail braking is a fundamental skill. Why then does it also seem (having watched dozens of crash videos) that so many riders have zero idea what trail braking is? Or that so many still believe that braking in corners is basically suicide? (P.S. Props on the quality and professionalism of your vids. You help keep us all safe on the mean streets, amigo!)

Thanks Kevin, always good tips to help me be a better rider

Great video! It’s great to know how to practice, especially since it’s not on the road!

Thank you Kevin for the information and examples.

I REALLY appreciate the videos of your hands, it puts the technique in better perspective for me. 😁👍

Thanks very much for the clear and understandable explanation and demonstration of trail braking.

Thanks This video and your comments make things super easy to follow and apply

Holy cow I never knew I was doing this unintentionally, thanks forthe lesson MCrider!

Great video as usual Kevin !

Man, that is one sweet sounding bike you have there. Thanks for the video.

Good video. I trail brake at times, but I will endeavor to make this a regular habit.

Kevin, I know this is nitpicking, but I hear it so often and it drives me nuts; "front braking increases the size of the contact patch and thereby increases traction". Ask any physicist/engineer and you will learn that friction/traction has nothing to do with area. There are exactly two factors in friction, the coefficient of friction between the two materials and the normal force between the two materials; area is not a factor in friction. As you have described, applying the front brake shifts weight to the front tire and does increase the size of the contact patch, but it is the increased weight (normal force) that increases the traction! I love your videos; I am back on two wheels after being off for over forty years and I constantly increase my riding skills and safety watching your vids! I frequently ride NW Arkansas and I have been experimenting with trail braking for a while; it really helps me get through the twisties with more speed and confidence!!

@deweymorris7219

5 жыл бұрын

@@joshharrison2657 Adhesiion! That's the difference! I stand corrected, friction is not all that is in play here. Thanks for the clarification!

@deweymorris7219

5 жыл бұрын

@@joshharrison2657 But, you solved a quandary that has been puzzling me for 25 years, since I first learned about the physics of friction. I grew up in the sixties with muscle cars and some of the biggest names in drag racing; I'm a big NASCAR fan as well as a fan of Indy and World of Outlaw. I know how friction works, but I also know that big slicks make way more traction than narrower tires! How can that be?? Adhesion! Adhesion is quite a different animal. Its behavior is much more complex than friction, and in racing, it is essential. Adhesion is the reason for all the different tire compounds that the tire manufacturers bring to the different tracks and surface types (asphalt/concrete/dirt, etc.). Friction is a big factor in racing, as well. Its the reason for wings, spoilers, splitters, etc. Increasing friction/traction by increasing down pressure on the vehicle, but I have been overlooking adhesion. Thanks for pointing that out!

I have watched a ton of videos on trail braking but you sir have explained it the best. I've been practicing it and finally I fully understand it Thank you.

this was it. The best explaination of trail brakin

Thanks Kevin, I was just asking a buddy of mine about this and was going to ask for your input. I think it will. Help me to have a little more confidence in unfamiliar roads

Thanks, it all makes complete sense now, great explanation

Now that was worthwhile. I'm going to try that in the parking lot tomorrow. Thanks.

This is one of the best(if not the best) trail braking videos on KZread

Thank you. I really got a lot out of your actual videoed practice in the parking lot, I would love to see more videos of you riding and showing on other lessons. Thank you again

I really appreciate the videos and I hope and you know your saving lives in your instructional videos, I for one want to say thank you

Best explanation ever.. As always Kevin, your advice is spot on and it helps keep skills in order .. much appreciated 🙏🏼

Excellent explanation and demonstration, Kevin. This has always been a confusing topic for me until now. Thank you.

Going to practice this next time out riding. Thanks Kevin for this practical video.

Thanks for the information Kevin it was a big help i watch the video twice.

@IanLandesman

5 жыл бұрын

I also watched twice. I hope everyone does.

Great video Kevin I'm gonna practice it next week and post the results

Thank you Kevin! Now I have a better understanding of trail braking and how to practice it in a parking lot. Excellent! :)

Hey brother. Thanks so much for your informative videos. I live in Murphy, Texas and pretty sure I passed you on Plano Pkwy in Plano yesterday on your Gold Wing...

Thanks, Kevin! Been trying to perfect my trail braking, but have not had such a concise, yet complete explanation as you offer here. My bike is a Goldwing 1500 with linked front/back rear brake system and is very forgiving when doing conventional corner braking, but I am working on becoming completely comfortable with the front, trail braking technique. Your video really helped me to know I was correctly practicing it.

Thanks for the helpful info!

Good Job Kevin!!!!!

What a great video explaining trail braking and the demonstrating it. This is the best video explaining it in such an easy way to understand. I’ve watched other videos that left me more confused after watching. Thanks for another great video!

Thank you bro, best trailbreaking explanation ever 👍👍

Thank you for the lessons Kevin. I'm a month into daily commuting to work and a 20 - 30 mile ride out at weekends , having parking lot practiced i started light trail breaking on the roads up in the hills near me today , starting to get a feel for riding more confidently ( but safely ) 😃👍🏍

Best trail braking video for us cruiser riders I've watched. Like how you stated hold brake till comfortable with speed and direction solid advice. Your videos are great!!

I agree on this method I rode dirt bikes for many years and that’s exactly how we control our bikes in the turns and it works like a charm great video

Nicely explained and important points repeated. I particularly like your reference to being comfortable with bike speed and position in the bend before rolling on. Everyone's different. The dynamics of the bike and rake angle in a bend has been put over very simply for the viewer here and is easily understood. Well done, you are actually saving lives here Kevin imo.

..on my third watching of the video since you made it. excellent!

Thanks for this video. In Calif we now teach SPAT for the cornering technique. We mention trail braking but don't teach it during the MTC. Now I have a source to point my students to for answers to the questions about trail braking.

I've just recently began exploring the use of trail braking and your explanation of "How To" is great. This definitely makes for more confident riding curves and the theory of already having the suspension loaded in the event you need to make a fast stop in a blind curve is so much safer than the way were taught in the MSF course. Thanks for helping riders of all levels with your riding tips

Thank you so much for this great informative video!. I am planning to enroll in a motorcycle driving class. I wanted to absorb much information before i did and be as safe as I can be when riding a motorcycle.

Great video! I've written a book and online course to teach trail braking to the average street rider. Your video here reinforces my theories and techniques. Best wishes!

Thank you so much for showing the technique!!!

I needed this Kevin. I just came in from a ride and on a corner 30 minutes ago and I had to trail brake after starting drifting into the next lane. I’m putting the miles on the bike and practicing I’m not ashamed to say I’m a beginner.

Excellent explanation and presentation. IMO - trail braking is king especially at the track.

Excellent, as always !

@MCrider

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great stuff Kevin.

Thanks for all the helpful information. I went and got my license today first try!

@MCrider

5 жыл бұрын

That's great Bryan, congratulations on getting your license.

Thank you for the video.

It makes a lot of sense, and I've probably been doing it to some degree, instinctively.

Thanks Kevin, I went on a "short" 200 mile today and applying trail braking, I was able to keep up with my riding buddy who happens to be a police officer with tons of experience, pro stock racer as well. He called me captain slow for the longest. Today he was like, "bruh whatever you are doing keep it up, you were right behind me all the time." I told him I was trail braking. There is another blogger I have to thank for this, I was able to come in hot and there maneuver the bike feeling vey comfortable. That said I had a "sphincter moment" where for some reason I tried giving the breaks some squeeze while keep accelerating the bike. What an awful feeling of losing control. I was lucky I was going relatively slow and gained control of my bike. So that is a no-no.

excellent tip

Great explanation !!! Always get some much out of your videos.

AWESOME! I love the way you explained how to trail break. I've always been a little worried to try it because I was trained not to use breaks in a corner. Other videos about trail breaking just talk about how to do it, they don't explain when to apply for how long, how much, and I don't think I've seen anyone actually set up a camera on their bike like you did. Now all I need to do is find a parking lot that isn't dangerous to test this in. To many people like to cut across parking lots here where I live.

Kevin the magician! Great video. I am a multi-decades rider with my only learning by doing; self taught. About 60 years of riding from scooters, dirt, performance and tour. Never having any formal or classroom instruction it occurred to me some time back that luck or an angel on my shoulder may have saved my _ _ _ many times. Emergency stops with obstacles, decreasing radius turns and with flawed technique; running wide in a corner. Been there, done that too many times; but this video has turned my head (pun intended). Especially since my latest acquisition is a 2021 Goldwing tour/DCT; the most spectacular riding machine I have ever discovered. This "Trail Braking" technique rings true and your presentation demeanor and methodology rings true and enables an old novice (?) to embrace the new world of prolonging my riding into the future. I need all the help I can get! Regards and happy trails. Postscript: IMHO, Honda has thrown out the sofa and invented the Sport Tour class in a most spectacular fashion. (My 1975 Goldwing was leaps and bounds behind my 2008 GW ABS. Now this 2021 Goldwing has opened my eyes toward the future of two wheels. But I hope, not too late.)

Watching your videos has inspired me to practice techniques and improve my skills and I Thank YOU for that. Could you do a video on your take on the motorcycle accident in New Hampshire this past weekend...

I feel that since front brake and throttle are on the same side it's important to adjust them in such a way that pressing the brake and accelerating right after will not required bending the hand too much. Thank you for another excellent video/demonstration!!!

Thanks, Kevin. There’s no better (Or safer) way to corner than with this technique in your toolbox. I use it ALL the time and have never experienced a hint of problems with it.

@kirstenfruehling2868

4 жыл бұрын

Todd Edwards Do you just break with the front brake initially and then trail it through the corner or do you use the back brake as well? Thanks!

Great video Kevin! Trail breaking for me acts as a way to anticipate something in the road ahead. With light brake pressure applied, steering becomes more precise and I can add more pressure in the event a deer, a pot hole, gravel etc. that suddenly appears in that blind corner. I can get the bike vertical and either come to a complete stop, or slow enough to go around that object. Works really well on decreasing radius bends also. It has saved my life on more than one occasion. 👍👍

Nicely explained thanks. 🇨🇦

This is God’s work right here my man! You are on the right side of history! I don’t know how many hearts and minds must be won over to get the MSF and other instructors to fully embrace this-BUT-folks like yourself with a wide audience are a great start. My wife had a near death experience almost-going in too hot, made the choice to disengage the clutch and use the rear brake exclusively-of all things. Fortunately a crash was avoided-But only by a stroke of good luck. It was the beginning of a long conversation about front brake pressure, fork compression (altering rake and trail to decrease your turn radius)-good throttle control, etc. If you master even the most basic part of trailing some front brake-life is going to get safer-I promise you. Any rider, any level, any bike. Keep up the good work Kevin!!!

Smoothest sounding bike out there

Thanks for the information. Well explained and I will certainly practice the technique. One little thing, during my training I got the remark from my instructor to always use all fingers on the break, not just 2. But hey, thanks for the video.

@nickyborrisino

5 жыл бұрын

Stijn Bettens for me, using 2 fingers on brake lever gives better control of throttle grip with the 3 other fingers if I need to add back additional throttle for downshifts and exiting corners. 2 fingers also help prevent over braking the front during a panic stop or late braking.

Thank you Kevin for a sharing all of your knowledge and experience with all of us. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the your videos. This technique, in my opinion, only complicates cornering. I'm a firm believer in the slow look press and roll technique. A carefully chosen entry speed, along with good road strategy, will not fail. Of course, everyone is free to use whichever technique they prefer. Happy and safe riding to everyone!

@MCrider

5 жыл бұрын

I have no problem with that. SLPR served me well for years.

Excellent!

Another thumbs up. I recently watched another video on trail braking. As you do, he advocates practicing getting the correct light feel on the brake lever. A technique he proposed was to use only the front brake when stopping in traffic, stop sign, light, etc., with the idea that you progressively reduce pressure on the brake lever as you come to a complete stop so that the front forks do not “bounce up” as you come to a stop. It’s similar to your technique of using only the rear brake at this time to keep the bike attitude level & controlled but with the intent of getting the proper feel of the front brake lever release for trail braking. I was starting to use your rear brake technique until I saw his video. As I’ve been practicing trail braking I switched to his stopping method. It requires smoothness with a gentle and controlled touch. It’s actually kind of fun. As you stated in the earlier video, less experience riders might be better off using the traditional method for cornering. I think the same could be said of these two methods of stopping. Curious what you think about this. Best regards, Leo

Great video. I have the 2018 GW and 10k miles. Need to change my front pad brakes and my riding buddy tells me not to brake before each corner. Just slow down using sport mode. But sport mode scares me in a corner. I am half way there learning trail braking. Makes complete sense. I have the habit of touching the front brakes at each corner then rolling on the trottle. Your video will help me to hold the brake a little longer and press down and turn my head. Looking forward to practising this.

Thanks for this vid Kevin!

I appreciate the good work you do mate jimmy Australis