How to shift gears in a 1928 - 1931 Ford Model A

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

I see a lot of videos about the "right" way to shift a Ford Model A with its unsynchronized 3-speed transmission. Frankly, most people are doing it wrong.
All this emphasis on double-clutching and misinformation finally got my autism going, so asked my wife to record this short video to show everyone the right way to shift the Ford Model A transmission.
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  • @TreeAtmos.
    @TreeAtmos.4 ай бұрын

    most beautiful transmission whine i've ever heard

  • @gregwddriver
    @gregwddriver Жыл бұрын

    It truly becomes second nature to drive these cars smoothly. Being engaged and actually having to drive the car makes it a very rewarding experience.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @Moosecop32
    @Moosecop324 жыл бұрын

    Thats how I learned to drive a semi. An early 80s Mack R Series. Gears were so tall it would chug up a mountain if you could find them in the first place. I love these old cars. Thank you for that

  • @m6onz5a
    @m6onz5a7 ай бұрын

    Thank you!! My buddy offered to let me drive his model a and I was nervous about shifting properly. You explained it perfectly!!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @g.a.c.4139
    @g.a.c.41394 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that's the right way. It works for most pre-war crash boxes. I've used the same method for early syncro boxes too to help move things along. And you're also right about how many people shift a Model A incorrectly....here on KZread, and everywhere else. When I learned to drive a crash box in the 70's, there were still folks around that knew how to help you learn. Today we have the internet...and many people teaching it wrong. It was a good move on your part to use the unrestored '29, that way no one could trash-talk the trans and your driving instruction. Thanks for this video Paul.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yea, I figured nobody could say I was using a 39 synchro trans or something this way. My Sport Coupe shifts even smoother and would have made a better video, but like you said...

  • @Wooley689
    @Wooley6898 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the clarification. I'm trying to learn all I can about these so when I finally find mine.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75003 жыл бұрын

    For some, it is easier to always double-clutch a Model A. Too much thinking about up or down, just DC every shift and it goes easier for some. I have only been driving Model A's for 54 years so I still have lots to learn, but everyone I have helped learn I have them DC up and down.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's OK too. Even though it is not necessary.

  • @ScubaAnt72

    @ScubaAnt72

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Paul's video I'm learning how to do it "the Paul way"... but I only started driving the Model A 10 years ago... so less to un-learn. I think what double clutching on the upshift does it give you the right timing or delay. I sometimes find myself double clutching on the upshift out of habit :) I also think the timing/delay is different when the gearbox is cold as presumably the oil is thicker... still learning!

  • @Sulfuron41
    @Sulfuron412 ай бұрын

    I saw a "How to" shift video where the gentleman was sitting at a dead stop, put the clutch in, and attempted to shift into first. However, the gears immediately started grinding. He backed off, tried again with the same result, only he just forced it into gear after grinding. I couldn't understand why it would grind while sitting still. Is it a clutch adjustment problem? Or maybe the car is idling too fast? Both? Lol I just got my very first A, and your videos have been absolutely invaluable. From the "Secret Handshake" to your shifting style, maintenace and beyond, it has given me a wonderful starting point to launch from. I'd never even sat in a Model A until after buying mine, let alone driven one. I've got a lot of practice ahead, but you gave me the confidence to take those first few steps. Thank you!!!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 ай бұрын

    My guess would be his clutch needed to be adjusted, of it was worn and no adjustment was left in it? Thank you for the kind words! So glad to hear the videos have been helpful to you. Are you a MAFCA member yet? Planning on going to Model A Days in September? If you go, it would be an honor to shake your hand and tell you thanks in person.

  • @frostyflake1128.

    @frostyflake1128.

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ModelAcould you inform me of the shift pattern? I can’t find any info on where first gear is. Engine off, it shifts buttery smooth, I just don’t know which way is what gear

  • @stephenabraham6787
    @stephenabraham67873 жыл бұрын

    Paul - I finally got to really drive my A for the first time after getting it and going through the engine, etc. Thanks for this video! It helped tremendously. My key learning was to just take your time - if you are in a rush to get somewhere, take a different car. Every other car I've had has been a synchronized manual so I didn't realize how much I was accustomed to just lazily slamming the stick into the next gear regardless of the RPM. And I thought myself to be a fairly precise driver. The A makes you pay much closer attention!! I love it.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations!!! We are all proud of you a d wish you many more successful drives!

  • @nateholden7598
    @nateholden75983 жыл бұрын

    I love the sound of this engine also nice explaining!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks!

  • @jackhewitt7902
    @jackhewitt79022 жыл бұрын

    A fantastic explanation. thank you Paul.

  • @gillpollard6391
    @gillpollard63914 жыл бұрын

    That is how I shift, I see people double clutching all the time but it isn't necessary. Actually if you listen to the engine speed and know how things work you don't have to double shift at all. The best I saw was my uncle who grew up driving all kinds of cars and trucks back in the day, anyway he could shift his model A without using the clutch! Just listened and shifted at the proper time, it was amazing to see.

  • @robdoe2420

    @robdoe2420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aliceshaw8265 I wrote a lengthy discourse on this for another nice video recently. "speed match the gears" is correct terminology in my experience. You're finding the correct speed of each gear. And yes, in stop and go traffic on a busy street, no 5 cars back behind you is gonna appreciate a snails takeoff from a light. At 14 years of age, my dad smiled big at me and said, " you know, at your age, I could kick the lever from 1st to second and second to third." I already had the touch, but it took a few practice tries before I got it.

  • @ScubaAnt72
    @ScubaAnt722 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Australia where we drive on the 'other' side of the road :) (The GAV control is on the steering column which is actually pretty handy!) Thank you Paul for making this video. I was taught to double clutch for both up and down shifting.... so I tried your method. There were a few 'crunches' while I was trying it out (hey it's OK, the gears can't get out!) but after a few goes I got it... and the whole way home I was saying to myself "I've being doing it wrong ***THE WHOLE TIME***" !!! :) I still find myself double clutching up shifting, but I'll get the hang of it! My clutch and I thank you! :) OK next Paul video to follow... brake adjustment!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Good job Ant!

  • @Old_school02
    @Old_school028 ай бұрын

    thank you this is every helpful I wish to have my own model A someday I hope in the next 2 two 5 year

  • @rvscootin3457
    @rvscootin34579 ай бұрын

    Great video. Thanks! I actually used to be able to shift my 1967 Chevelle without using the clutch. It really is a feel and rpm thing.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    9 ай бұрын

    Right on!

  • @AstraWerke
    @AstraWerke4 жыл бұрын

    My opion on this - and I'd love to hear yours, too - is that, as long as you hear no grinding noise, there is no "wrong" way to do it. I like double clutching because one doesn't have to keep the clutch pressed in while waiting for the gears to slow down. Just like I prefer putting the car into neutral when sitting at a traffic light. The lower the rpm you shift at, the quicker you can shift, because the gear speeds are closer together. If you just get your car rolling in 1st, you can immediately stick it into 2nd without any hesitation - Jack Bahm demonstrated that brilliantly in a video of his. You demonstrated how to shift without double clutching - and did it beautifully. But I wouldn't call double clutching wrong - because it doesn't hurt the transmission either, if done properly. Greetings from Germany Adrian

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 жыл бұрын

    No grinding is the goal. That's a fact. Pumping the clutch excessively puts more wear on the mechanism than just holding it down tue extra second waiting for the motor to slow down.

  • @AstraWerke

    @AstraWerke

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA Oh yes, didn't think of that one. I had only heard about throwout bearings wearing quicker when leaving the clutch pressed at a stop light - but sure, there's more to a clutch than just that.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right. You should be in neutral at a stop light with foot off the clutch pedal.

  • @EspenX
    @EspenX3 жыл бұрын

    You should make a How to drive a Model A video. I guess the double clutching is the main thing, but as a "civilian" I would not be mad seeing a video of you explaining how the steering wheel, gear shifter, clutch feels and works and perhaps how you use sound (and smell perhaps) when you drive.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha! Smell!! If you check out the video where I review the Model A, the last half of the video is pretty much a how to drive. Search for "why the ford model a is the best American car ever made" and you'll see it.

  • @EspenX

    @EspenX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA Yeah, I would love to know how a Model A smells. I don't know Model A's, but I love old Volkswagen buses and they smell a mix of oil and exhaust and sometimes with a dash of petrol fumes - or burnt clutch or hot brakes. I would love to know if Model A owners also use smell like that. And sound, driving an old VW there are many sounds and noises, but I know what are good, normal noise and rattling so I can recognize new and worrysome noises. I think there are many things you as a Model A owner take for granted that the people watching your videos from outside the Model A community would love to know about. I am watching a lot of car videos on KZread and got recommended your channel, so I am sure I am not the only one knowing nothing about Model A, but still want to watch videos of them :)

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EspenX Yes, I am sure there are a lot of Model A nuances that we take for granted or don't give any thought. I'm sure the same goes for VW's. Model A's do have a smell all their own. I'm not quite sure how to describe it, but if I walk into someone garage and they have a Model A, I can smell it right off the bat. It's like a mix of old grease and wool.

  • @EspenX

    @EspenX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA I love it! Grease and wool, I would never have guessed :) My previous reply was sort of ideas if you want more views on your videos. KZread algoritms must love your channel, because if I as a Norwegian with no particular interest in Fords or Model A and I got your video suggested, I would think there are a huge number of KZread users that would love your stuff. But for us it would be the videos that does not require prior knowledge of Model A's except loving and knowing cars in general. Don't mean to suggest you make your channel into clickbait entertainment or anything like that, but there are millions of people out here that would enjoy seeing a guy like you with a talent for both talking about cars on videos and knowing Model A's also talk to us that are not in the vintage Ford community. (And I have to ask: Wool? I don't know if it is an English word, but is it because of lanolin for rust protection (sheep's oil)?

  • @tjbristle
    @tjbristle28 күн бұрын

    Perfect explanation!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    28 күн бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @dalebucknall313
    @dalebucknall3132 жыл бұрын

    Thank Paul I well start looking for alt

  • @chasgantz7728
    @chasgantz772829 күн бұрын

    Great info!!! My buddy is going to let me drive is '31!

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    29 күн бұрын

    Sweet!! Please report back and let everyone know how it went!

  • @mujeresyautomoviles115
    @mujeresyautomoviles115Күн бұрын

    Hay que ajustar ese cambio.

  • @jtmacready
    @jtmacready11 ай бұрын

    Again, very informative video. Is there any advice out there for a 29’ Model A pickup truck that doesn’t seem to want to go into reverse? It’s been started regularly but hasn’t moved in over a year.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    11 ай бұрын

    Pull the shift tower and find out what is going on in the gearbox

  • @wireworks616
    @wireworks616Ай бұрын

    Scout crafter sent me over. Nice video.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for coming. Scoutcrafter is awesome!

  • @FredMorrow
    @FredMorrow Жыл бұрын

    Were you aware that you can lift the shifting lever and swing it up to the dash to give more legroom for a third passenger?

  • @robdoe2420
    @robdoe24203 жыл бұрын

    It's Sunday. I'm enjoying this immensely. This is another helpful video Paul. .....But a bit opinionated as to "the right way". Do you know that many Semi Trucks have non-synchronized transmissions, and that their driver shifts up and down through 10 or more gears without using the clutch, all day every day? He does it on level ground, uphill, downhill, and on all sorts of road surface qualities, with different loads, too.He does not use the clutch to accomplish this. In my very humble opinion, your description is "Model A shifting 101" only. I appreciated a comment below, "as long as you hear no grinding noise, there is no wrong way to do it". In the heyday of the Model A, due to the A's snappy performance, there were many high range speed shifts from stop light to stop light. Boys will be boys ya know? By today's standards, it would look like a couple tortoises goin' at it. Of course us grown ups revere these wonderful, old machines, and wouldn't think of shaving a few chunks of metal off the gears by missing a shift in a downtown, street race! An adequate description of shifting is too lengthy here. But I notice that in many descriptions, I never saw anyone describe the correct use (positioning) of the throttle. One used the term "blip" the throttle and that's gettin' closer, but I suggest that a skilled driver of a non-synchronized tranny doesn't "blip" either; he puts the throttle where required and moves the shifter at the right speed (out of gear, into neutral, and on into the next gear) to get the shift made without clashing. Keep the videos coming, Mr. Shinn

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have driven many large trucks and equipment with unsychronized transmissions. I thought I did mention that this video was how to shift a Model A, even in the title. Thanks!

  • @justindampier9017
    @justindampier90172 жыл бұрын

    Thought it was non synch. Thanks for the video. If I know me, I'll try and float it lol.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. Non-sync.

  • @jeffboyles3611
    @jeffboyles36114 жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation. I've watched your other videos on this sweet car. Interesting comment that it drives and handles better than your restorations. That's a neat car to own. Congratulations.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! If you're ever in the area, drop by and check it out in person.

  • @MrBrendog67rat

    @MrBrendog67rat

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA where is it at?

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrBrendog67rat Where gold was discovered in California

  • @MilePost106
    @MilePost1062 жыл бұрын

    Just think, women back in the day could drive these no problem.

  • @FennixGamingYT
    @FennixGamingYT3 ай бұрын

    I’m trying to learn how to shift in my model A but I keep grinding a little bit. I’m not trying to force the gear and of it starts to grind I back off. I’m not doing any permanent damage right? Seems like a lot of these transmissions grind a bit but I’m still concerned lol.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 ай бұрын

    Practice!!! And a clutch that will fully disengage

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527
    @jacobrzeszewski6527 Жыл бұрын

    Hell, I learned to double clutch in my 2015 Ford. When you do it right it's literally effortless. But it is absolutely about patience, and unfortunately no one has that in modern cars. Even without double clutching I've got people on my bumper while I'm slipping the clutch from a stop.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell me about it....

  • @truth409
    @truth409 Жыл бұрын

    How many miles will the gears last internally....not just clutch

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    Millions if not abused

  • @ManBunBeardDude
    @ManBunBeardDude5 ай бұрын

    “Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should”

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    5 ай бұрын

    Read the owner's manual. I am doing it exactly like the Ford Model A owner's manual says.

  • @ManBunBeardDude

    @ManBunBeardDude

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ModelA It's a quote from the first Fast and the Furious movie

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ManBunBeardDude Oh! Sorry, man. Never saw those movies.

  • @MichaelFoster117

    @MichaelFoster117

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ModelA Trust me you're better off that way.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MichaelFoster117 Hahaa! Now, you got me curious...

  • @willieburns5648
    @willieburns56482 жыл бұрын

    what's the other lever next to the stick shift

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 жыл бұрын

    overdrive

  • @rac-on-teur4329

    @rac-on-teur4329

    Жыл бұрын

    The chrome lever is the emergency brake.

  • @jamessoares516
    @jamessoares5168 күн бұрын

    Will that downshifting work in a 39?

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    8 күн бұрын

    I suppose so

  • @adamthompson6932
    @adamthompson69323 жыл бұрын

    Hey Paul When in 3rd gear I lose acceleration and can't seem to get it to work. Any ideas?

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your motor is not making enough power.

  • @adamthompson6932

    @adamthompson6932

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA How am I going to get more power? I have put in new parts and seems to run good, until 3rd gear. Do you have a video or what are my options?

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adamthompson6932 Sorry, no video on "How come I don't have any power in 3rd gear". Start with your timing (there IS a video for that).

  • @adamthompson6932

    @adamthompson6932

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA thank you

  • @ScubaAnt72

    @ScubaAnt72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adamthompson6932 Maybe starving for fuel? Check fuel flow, filter etc?

  • @Michael_Scott_Howard
    @Michael_Scott_Howard4 жыл бұрын

    Yea, these are after all old ladies, slow 🐌 ...I have never dlb clutch from 2nd to 1st. . And very excellent video work and your narrative is great but you're a HAM too so that figures....

  • @truth409
    @truth409 Жыл бұрын

    Gas pedal on the floor?

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @danaschoen432
    @danaschoen4322 жыл бұрын

    I had a 31 Coupe in Pre-Internet days. I thought my tranny was bad because it was so "whiney" . Turns out, that's "normal operation".

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaa! Darn.

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus3 жыл бұрын

    Mine absolutely will not to that, 3-2 downshift grinds no matter what I try, I think it's time to remove the trans to see What is wrong.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    First, check clutch adjustment. The clutch has to be capable of full disengagement before you can shift smoothly.

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus

    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA I adjusted the clutch about a year ago using tips from the Les Andrews book, except for getting in there to adjust the fingers independently; which might have been a bit beyond my tool selection at the time. It all looked and felt OK, and the adjustment didn't make any difference in that shift. At a stop with the clutch depressed, engine running, I can shift into 1-3 easily, indicating a complete disengagement as far as I can tell. The car does drive smoothly in all gears, doesn't pop out of any gear, and the 2-3 shift is as easy as can be - just like in any of the Drive your A videos here. If I can figure this out, I'd drive it a lot more often.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmm.. Need someone who has a lot of experience to drive your car and see what's up. I can just keep telling you to check everything, but you may not actually have a problem.

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus

    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA I do live close to Arizona Model A, and the owner, Sammy Guthrie, has told me to bring it in so they can check it out. Which I will do, just not so comfortable driving it in traffic like that which is why it hasn't happened yet. Unless I can get someone from the local club to drop by and give me an opinion.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus That would be the way to go.

  • @WhiteBoyEst1994
    @WhiteBoyEst19942 жыл бұрын

    If you double clutch you double clutch every shift. If not then just float. Floating if done right will give you more life out of the clutch and gears.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm just teaching what the owner's manual says to do.

  • @michaeleisenbise4278

    @michaeleisenbise4278

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKd9sZaLl6aoaJs.html

  • @mbriggs4627
    @mbriggs46279 ай бұрын

    I've never known double clutching to help shifting with anything, to me it's just a play with your mind, most old vehicles when down shifting do not want to fall into gear until your going slow enough for that gear to be in use, just like on an 8N tractor when shifting up or down there is a window of opportunity and if you miss it you miss it, I mean tell me how double clutching actually helps, it doesn't, same with old school big trucks with two unsynchronized gear boxes, double clutch means nothing imo, good video, thank you.

  • @user-pl7sf9qm9o
    @user-pl7sf9qm9o2 ай бұрын

    so whats the issue? Thats the way I change gear in my 1962 land rover. never had any problem.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    2 ай бұрын

    No issue. Just showing people who are new to this how to do it.

  • @KenFullman

    @KenFullman

    Ай бұрын

    It's also the way I used to shift in my land rover. A while back I had an issue with a failed part on the clutch pedal of my Ford Escort. Some kind of plastic "automatic adjuster" that meant the clutch pedal no longer worked at all. I managed to drive over 200 miles back home without a clutch. Simply put it into first gear and turn it over, a couple of jerks forward and you're away. Double declutching (even without a clutch) allows it to change down a gear. Changing up is as simple as just hesitating as you cross neutral and listening out for the right engine revs before feeling it into gear. Obviously coming to a complete standstill is a pain as the only way to pull away again involves a restart of the engine.

  • @mortenf.hansen6512
    @mortenf.hansen6512 Жыл бұрын

    Challenge here is … I can hear you are grinding teeth a bit with your method shifting down. .. and … Thats not the way my dad did and tough me. He did (and I do) like you but double clutched fast after each other before bring-it in to gear. I almost never grind. My great great grandfather did (as the family rumour states) the same when he bought our Ford A in 1930. And he must have known best 😂 Any way, I pass down my great great grandfather’s method to my kids. My kids by the way are the 5th generation driving our Ford A Tudor and he gearbox has never been renovated 😮

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    You ought to upload a video of you shifting a Model A and share it with us.

  • @mortenf.hansen6512

    @mortenf.hansen6512

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA will do when back from Holliday.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    How is my shifting in this video? kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4aDwcyklKavnMY.html

  • @mortenf.hansen6512

    @mortenf.hansen6512

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ModelA ahhh …. Here you cheated a little by using - in lag of an english word - in between throttle. Much better. 🧐😂 Very similar to how our family does 😂 though we combine with a double clutch.

  • @ModelA

    @ModelA

    Жыл бұрын

    I drive that car almost every day. How does it compare to your driving that you promoted earlier?

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