It depends on the type of your film work. For KZread video, it is enough to sync audio directly into the camera. But, if you makes a short film or documentary for cinema screening purpose, I'd recommend to record audio, separately; so you can have more rooms to work on sound mix for better quality.

There is a difference ! There is a background hiss when using the headphone out vs the sd card. More annoying and more work post but it’s better to record directly to the H6

@lifeasesh

Жыл бұрын

I hear it as well.

@WinstonHarris

9 ай бұрын

How does one get rid of that hiss?

@smartnothard2400

6 ай бұрын

I have found that I get more hiss when going wireless indicating that the hiss is more to do with the wireless transmission (if using a recorder with rode go’s etc) and not so much to do with using the earphone jack on the recorder. If you use a wired mic with the recorder you won’t have the hiss however it won’t be wireless but you’ll still avoid post syncing. Best practical solution is to turn your cameras input all the way down (if using a phone you’ll need an app that allows this like black magic etc) and adjust the output or input accordingly from the recorder.

I absolutely love and appreciate humans like you Javier! Thank you, would love an in person studio help set up....COVID compliant of course :) Thank you for your tutorials. I will keep at it.

i know this video is old but i put my headphones to listen to the test at the end and there there a huge difference, the signal into the camera had a high pitched signal noise that was very noticeable. Its enough of a difference for me to not change my work flow but thanks for testing this on our behalf

@christophercmosley

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@saltypancreas5866

3 жыл бұрын

So you wouldn’t recommend plugging in the sm7b through a cloud lifter, then to a scarlet solo then a dbx 286

@saltypancreas5866

3 жыл бұрын

Regarding the camera method, there is no good way to hook up the sm7b, to the camera without the high pitched nose

This is perfect. I have a Zoom H4N and was hoping this was how it would go and it went exactly how you demonstrated it.

This was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

@JavierMercedes

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@jcap8391

2 жыл бұрын

@@JavierMercedes can you use a go xlr mini with same results as the zoom?

Perfect! Great vid dude. To the point and clear! Literally was searching for this very set up. I'm going to be recording via my NIKON D850 (just a talking head video type of show. Nothing complex or crazy). I have a Shure sm7b, Cloudlifter, and Zoom H6. Was dreading having to sync audio and video in post and all that blah, blah, blah. I think, for what it is I'm doing, this will work absolutely fine. Many thanks.

Awesome video. I've been trying to figure the audio out with my VR1HD switching between two different angles on Sony A7iii. The audio is out of sync for some reason and also isn't as clean.

Nice vid! I worked out the same method using a Tascam DR44wl. and a DJI pocket 2. The Tascam has reverb on board so I wanted to do do some quick and dirty song videos. I use a two-way adapter from the line out so that I can use headphones at the same time. Watching your video confirmed that it wasn't such a weird thing to do. Thanks a lot!

Also 👍 appreciated if this is helpful! Stay safe out there!

from my ears I really like the audio straight into the camera for talking heads. the zoom h6 audio seemed "processed" which may fool some into thinking that's the better one... thanks for taking the time to create this video!

Going Into the camera sounded a little brighter to me (listening on Yamaha HS5s) but definitely nothing drastic. Sounds good either way. I found your video researching audio solutions and logically was thinking that you could actually do this. It just made sense. I haven't been seeing anyone do it until NOW. 😌 Thanks for this video.

Solid video! I use a Sony A7III with Sennheiser G3 and tram TR-50 directly into the camera. I bring up gain on Sennheiser and put my camera volume to 1. It works awesome. Clients compliment me on audio sometimes. I usually record a bit lower and bring up audio in post. I am on here because I need to use two Sennheiser G3's and need a way to mix them. The Zoom H6 line out is the answer. Thank you for your video, I will get a Zoom H6. Huge plus that I will have a backup in case something happens. Nothing has ever happened because I am always checking chosen takes.

I bought an Olympus "field" recorder and Ive been messing around trying to get it to work with my Sony A7, then I found your video and hey presto it works. Brilliant and thanks! I don't know if it syncs but cant see any reason why not and it sounds awesome! For what its worth I set record level in A7 to 10 Olympus LS P1 (voice recorder) set to conference scene.

Thanks a bunch! I am planning on doing exactly this: it's good to see that it works fine before I spend the money.

Dude! Sending line level audio to another mic pre-amp, no matter how much you have it turned down, still uses the camera's inferior mic pre-amp. Fujifilm cameras, like my X-S10, allows you to select the camera mic port to accept line level or mic level so you can avoid all this "gain staging" and bypass the cheap camera mic. pre-amp completely. So I use the line out of my Tascam Mixcast 4 or the line outs of my Zoom H6 or Tascam 70d and send this audio to the camera mic port that is selected to accept "line level" signals and get an awesome video complete with the highest quality audio baked into it. This is the only problem with Sony cameras IMHO is that you're stuck with using the mic preamp to an extent unless you buy the very expensive hot shoe XLR mic option. Consider doing a video explaining this advantage of Fuji products over the others. Thanks man!

Thank you so much for this! Also your quality is SOOO clean!

when it comes to the difference between straight to the card and straight to camera I believe you notice the difference where your outside or somewhere with more background noise. Then you start to notice how that preamp on the camera muddys the sound a bit. I tried this with my H4n contected to the line in on the camera.

Just got the zoom h6 and this is super helpful! I was wondering if I could do this. Thanks for the detailed tutorial. Can’t wait to try it out!

Great to show minimizing camera audio input level to minimize the noise coming from its inferior audio amp. Thanks for the video.

This definitely works as long as you crank down your in cam audio. For instance on my Canon 5d MK IV, I have turn it all the way down to the first notch. But the audio sounds almost identical between my Zoom H1 internal recording as it does to the audio sent to my 5d.

@JavierMercedes

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know it works for you!

Great tutorial as always my guy! I don't mind syncing audio in post but when you have more than 3 clips to sync it gets really tedious! Definitely gonna try this on our next project, we even use the same camera and field recorder!

Awesome vid. Thank you. You always provide practical solutions, easy to follow and implement! Appreciate your efforts to share with us. Please keep it up!

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert! Means a lot!

Been syncing in post. Going to have to test this! 👍🏻

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

It’s always nice to setup and see if it sounds fine, some mic pres do better than others, but no harm in trying, thanks for checking out the other videos Mike!

For some cameras that aren’t really designed to handle line level signals well, replacing a standard cable with a line-to-mic level attenuation cable will make these setups less noisy. It switches the voltage to what the cameras handles well, probably just a resistor on the cable. If the audio sounds good it is good, so it is only something to buy if you are annoyed by differences in noise floor when connecting like this. If happy with the audio don’t get the cable :) “Professional” camcorders often have a switch or a menu option to set the input in line level mode. Like a attenuation cable but built into the camera. I got a case of tinnitus today, so I have zero clue if there was audible difference ;-)

Great video man. I think it's important to point out that when using external line level audio into the camera, the mic/line option in the camera needs to be selected to line so as to bypass the camera's pre-amp as it's usually garbage. Even if the mic level is turned down substantially, you'll still have it "touch" the signal and that's not optimal. I go from the line out of my H1n or H5 right into my line in of my X-S10 and it sounds amazingly good. Then from there it's straight to YT so it's only processed once by YT. Thank you again for the demo sir.

Wow! Now I want to see that setup on a Crane 2!

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences I'm new at this podcasting technology and you are an incredible resource.

Excellent, thanks. I didn't notice a difference in the audio on my cheap 5.1 surround system. Unless you need the best and cleanest possible audio, using the headphone jack seems to work fine.

You're so smart man. God bless you and love you content. Using same mic, cloud lifter and recorder. Doing this now. Thank you.

@JavierMercedes

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for stopping by CrackaLack!

Dear Javier, thank you for your all information. Best review for zoom. what should the settings be for zoom f3 and fujifilm xh2s?

that was really helpful, video editing is dope, lol just teasing me more to buy the a7 iii , but all in all thanks a lot , i was looking for a solution!

I'm listening on studio monitors, and I couldn't tell a difference in the sound of the two options. Also, fantastic video!!!

@Texturas75

4 ай бұрын

I can hear it on the headphones. But the difference is almost negligible when listening on the phone speaker, specially with some background music.

Both sound pretty good

thank you so much for this... I was plugin my h6 always through line out, and having constant interferences. Finally plugged it through the headphones line and interferences were gone completely!!! thank you

this is exactly what i have been looking for , you just got yourself one subscriber

I heard the diffrence only when i connected my professional headphones on. How many people will actually be listening on pro headphones and will they even notice it after adding sfx and background music.... I highly doubt it only when comparing side by side like this... Totally worth it for the workflow... Thanks for the review,very detailed and great info

Thanks for this! Very helpful and it took me too long to think about this as well....

Hey Javier! Thanks for this tip! Did you notice any static sound when connecting it? I was able to fix it in Premiere with the denoise filter but it was quite noticeable. Any tips? I use the Sony A7III, the same amazon cable and Zoom H6 with a Rode Mic and XLR cable. (All new with the exception of the camera)

Someone asked me “did you go to film school?” I said yea, JM Film school is the best on KZread 🔥🔥🔥

Invaluable, Thanks Javier!

Great video! You can also do the same thing using the Rode Wireless Go lav system whereby the transmitter connects to the H6 line out at the bottom, and the Rode receiver connects to the camera (on top of hot shoe) with the 3.5mm cable going to the camera's mic in port. By using the Rode Wireless Go lav system, you will receive wireless audio transmission so you don't have to mess with cables that you can trip over. Plus the Rode Wireless Go lav system can transmit wirelessly up to 150 feet away, it's quite amazing. Only downside is that it costs $200 for the system versus $15 for a long cable. I use this wireless Rode lav system with my Canon camera.

@seaninherts

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, although you may be introducing latency in to your recording, even if it’s a frame or two off, the lip syncing may not work as well? This is because the wireless Go works of the 2.4GHz wifi band. It’s pretty decent but I’ve known these issues to occur. If it works for you, it works for you. Great way to stay safe if it’s not knocking your audio out from the visuals?

i use 2 rode wireless that go to my 2 cameras from my zoom F4 where i have 3 g4 512s and 1 shotgun. its just less steps to worry about. quick to send clients when cutting down interviews and easy to sync when cameras are further from sound source.

Great Vid Javier as usual. Very well done. Solid content. Thanks

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

Heeey thanks Samson, love the new Profile pic!

@Just_Samson

4 жыл бұрын

Javier Mercedes thanks Javier

hi, great video, I had a question though. I have a zoom h2 and connected it via the phones/line out input with a TRS-TRS cable to the camera input of the canon M50. Then I have a longer TRS-TRS cable running from the mic input of the zoom to an external mic. But is there any way you could still monitor your audio through headphones? (since I now used the headphone's input to connect the audio recorder to the camera, that input is already taken).

nice video, very helpful and i'm sure time saving. Definitely gonna have to try this out.

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you and be sure to test if it sounds as good, if all else fails it’s always cool to record in the recorder while recording on the camera

Thank you Javier! Great informative video!

Exactly what i needed thank uuu❤

Great video that question is what I was wondering...TQSM bruh

Thanks for this video! Can I do something similar with a wireless receiver? For instance, if I plug the RODE wireless GO receiver into my DLSR using the red TSR cable, would it record straight onto the DSLR so I don't have to sync audio?

Thanks for an eye opener Bro 🙏

Thanks for this excellent video on Audio, is it possible use two xlr microphones at the same time with zoom h5 and connect with Sony a7c camera for directly recording on camera?

thank you for this wonderful video for the difference my ears did not catch any

Awesome video, thank you! 🙂👍 I'm planning on getting a Canon EOS M50 and a Zoom H6 so I can record songs of me singing with an acoustic guitar. This was something I definitely wanted to know if it was possible, good to know, thank you! 🙂 On a more specific note, if I wanted to end up using the audio from a really great take to then also put on Spotify or use for purely the audio and not the video, would this technique not work? Will this give me one file? I won't be able to separate the audio? Or could I have the video and audio record together for easy uploading to KZread while also being able to save a separate audio at the same time on an SD card on the Zoom H6? The goal being one take = good video with audio for KZread with no post sync, and yet also an audio file by itself of that good take. Thoughts?

oh lord, the amount of times i have a thousand different video clips and my H5 has one , one hour clip that just kills me to sync it all up!! It never occurred to me to do this as my last camera did not have a mic input! Now i just need to mount my zoom somewhere ! Thanks!

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

That’s how I came to this idea as well, spending all that time in edit syncing. Even if the quality may not be as good at least the signals are about the same so syncing is a breeze in post.

Thank you for this 🙌🏽

Very good video I to have the Sony A73 and the Zoom H6 and F1 for me it really depends on if I am in studio or on location. Both do a great job from line in. I also backup to sod card .

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

Cool to hear you have the same gear!

Amazing video. I was very close to get my question answered. I do get the first part down but my question is. What cable do I need or how do I get audio from the dj’s board. If I have a zoom h4n pro and 3.5 male cord connected to the camera.

really worth it. saves a lot of time!

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

I think so, I understand that there are some situations that you need to be nimble with your setup so carrying around a recorder isn't efficient, but it does really speed things up if you can do it, thanks for watching and commenting Dennis! hope you are safe!

Great, informative video! Thank you!

Awesome job!!!

thanks man your on point with all this info

Great video! :-) Quick question. If the condenser mic I am using, has a build in Phantom power via battery and you go directly in to the camera, there is no benefit using an external recorder, right? The only way to get better audio is to use an external recorder with better converter and the option of getting more mic options? :-)

You really good person explained it It's really very useful Thank so much for it Please don't stop to make videos on your channel 😊

I tried to do this one time with my tascam, but the audio was horrible. So I got lazy and never tried again, so I just stuck to syncing audio in post. I think I may give this a try again. 👍🏽

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not familiar with the preamps on a tascam, always worth a quick test.

Hey man, great video. I’m using a sm7b and cloud lifter on a out of frame boom arm and connecting from my H6 line out to A7C. I adjusted my line out to -30db on the H6 and 1 on the A7C record sound. I pressed record from the H6 and record on the camera but hear no sound on play back on the film. I’m getting a signal on my headphones and record out on the H6? How can I see if the sound is actually recorded on my video?

I highly recommend to Zoom H4N user this cable: Sescom LN2MIC-ZMH4-MON 3.5mm Line to Mic 25dB Attenuation Cable for Zoom H4N with Headphone Monitoring Jack

Dímelo Javier, How can I use my Shure SM7B going into my Apollo twin MK2 quad core for Xbox live party chats and Twitch/Facebook streams? Will a simple trs from Apollo to aux cable into Xbox controller do or do you recommend I purchase the iRig?

thanks for a great video....I dont have the expertise in audio...would having lets say an Zoom H1N connected to sony/fujifilm camera provide better audio (recorded directly to the camera ) VS lets say a shotgun microphone like Diety Mini 4 or maybe Rode Micro connected to the camera with the same 3.5mm cable?

Good information! Thank You! I'm starting my KZread channel and this helps a lot! I have 3 cameras, how can I set up all 3 using this set up with-out all 3 being seperate? I hope I didn't confuse you...

Thanks Dak Prescott! 🔥

Great video Javier!

Hay Javier, Thanks for such helpful video. I was about to buy Rode AI-1 USB Audio Interface to use it with my Rode ntg3 but after looking at this video I feel Zoom H6 might be a better option to be able to record my audio directly into my camera. Please let me know your thoughts if you think I still should go with Rode AI-1 or Zoom H6 is better option to make my workflow smoother?

How do you have everything mounted to your tripod? I am using a Rode NTG2 into a Zoom U-24 then into my Sony A6600 this way and it would be awesome to be able to keep it all consolidated how you have it at 2:15 in the video. Thanks!

I am using Vidpro XM 55 shotgun and Zoom H5 for recording audio and Zoom H5 out directly connected to Panasonic camcorder through cable. The issue is loud noises (hissing sound) throughout the recording. I tried shotgun microphone directly connected to camcorder, but noise not reduced. Can you suggest some solutions to remove noises

Great video - What if I wanted to setup the recorder with a Ninja V. Would you bypass the camera mic and go straight into the Ninja?

I do mostly field shooting. I find the DJI wireless mics to be excellent but I would imagine with all your equipment you get much better sound.

Thank you again for such great insight. I have the same zoom h6 and I am using a Sony a7s2 camera with Sony wireless lav's: UWP-D21. I have clipping with my voice. I will be using some of your suggestions but is there a level i should set my wireless lav's at as well for getting optimal sound? I just posted my latest cooking video and I'm sure you will be able to tell that it doesn't sound that good. In post i turned the volume down to -5db so the clipping doesnt sound too bad. Any suggestions would help. Thank you Chef Shannon Ambrosio

Thank you very much for your guidance. I tried my Zoom H1n on Sony A7iii with Rode Lavalier Go mic. The sound was amazingly impressive with gain level 4 on Zoom, and level 1 on Sony A7iii, while the bars were hitting around -12 db. What was also impressive was that I could record the sound on Zoom at the same time in wave format with 48khz/24bit, just in case I needed it separately. However, when I copied both the Zoom file and the Camera file to Audacity, I was surprised that both the files were recorded at 48khz/32bit and the sound level of the Zoom file was much lower than the camera file and needed to be amplified to about 15db. After doing so, I could not trace any difference between the two. May I conclude: Using Zoom H1n only adds to the complexity and produces no extra quality? Will plug my mic directly into the camera next time without Zoom.

@veritas932

Жыл бұрын

the advantage of using a separate audio file on Zoom H5 only comes in outdoors environment and at long distances between the audio recorder (located close to talent) and camera.

Great tutorial- thanks! I have an h4n, but have borrowed a Tascam d60. On that you can line out to camera and save to SD card at the same time. I’m thinking of upgrading to the zoom H6, but can’t find anywhere if it will have this feature. Do you know if that’s possible?

@JavierMercedes

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is possible on the h6

Very helpful, thank you 🙏🏾

That is an awesome video! Thank you!

Holy Cow...handy for multiple mics...but using the Beachtek is so much easier for my needs and it's attached to the camera :)

Question for you l have an all day conference coming up soon. Should l use the rode wireless pro for my audio ?

question... would this be able to work with something like a zoom f3 and still have 32bit float synced directly in a Blackmagic pocket? In theory it seems it would work but just trying to get opinions

Hi Javier, have you tried to connect the zoom h6 to handphone instead of camera? Is it workable? Thanks.

Thank you for sharing your awesome! video your video was so helpful

Great video! Does this method work with the Zoom PodTrak P4?

Hi! Thanks for the video. Would this set up work if you’re using an iPhone vs the camera? I have the zoom h6 and I use a dynamic mic. I also have the lightening adapter and trrs cables/adapters.

@seaninherts

3 жыл бұрын

Hi there. If you can get the sound from the H6 to your camera, it would work, if internal sound is the option you wish to go for. I’m not sure how easily you could monitor the audio on your iPhone though.

Will these technique work with the Zoom PodTrak 4 (connecting to your camera?)

I'm faced with a similar setup and question, but using a MixPre6 with Deity S-Mic 2. Apparently, there's no way to bypass the a7M3's preamps, so as to sync audio with video in your example. Page 235 of the Sony Guide states "The [Audio Rec Level] settings are applied for both the internal microphone and the [mic] terminal input." I assume this means they're not disabled and will still modify the quality of the audio signal even if the volume control is totally left to the recorder. I also have some thoughts on syncing in post. I'll need to watch yours to see if you used my idea for an approach.

Great videos Javier, I want to record video/audio from mixer but all host are wearing IEM's. Is it possible to line out from cameras into Zoom H5 and also receive feed from mixer?Thanks

@JavierMercedes

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is possible I think? you just need to see if your can route the signal internally to make sure you are not feeding back the camera audio back into the camera.

Where can I get the joby legs adapter to add my recorder to the tripod like you have yours connected? Which connector is it?

Thank you!!

Thank you!

@JavierMercedes

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

this is awesome!

Javier! Have you run into the situation where Sony cameras (specifically A6400) seems to constantly bump the gain during quiet moments? I’m using a Comica preamp with XLR input and that’s fed into the camera. What am I doing wrong? The levels I’m monitoring are the Comica levels and everything sounds peachy, but when I import I hear a massive increase in noise and gain during quiet moments. Any idea??

Do you have to use that blue mixer thing to connect the xlr from mic to h4n at 4:44?

thanks for making this

Hello. I have a question on video cameras. Do you consider the Sony a7III to be the best video camera for KZread videos? Would a dedicated camcorder be better. Thanks