Nelson: **Sacrifices rook and knight** Engine: **NO**

@archimedeis

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that🤣. That sidebar dipped like nobody's business

@kellamyoshikage286

2 жыл бұрын

The engine was fine with the knight sacrifice for the most part, the evaluation didn't change much from that. It's the exchange sacrifice that it doesn't like, because it thinks it sees some move sequence that lets black defend. Does it exist? Yeah, probably. Doesn't mean the opponent's gonna find it though.

@dustinjames1268

2 жыл бұрын

@@kellamyoshikage286 If you want the opening trap I played into to get that, I'll post the moves The 1500elo bot abandoned the queen on B3 after that and let me trade a rook for it

@sahilvance5995

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinjames1268 give link of that game

@orenawaerenyeager

2 жыл бұрын

Engine is just fool.

This was beautiful! Like Picasso said: Learn the rules like a professional so you can break them like an artist.

@goncalofreitas2094

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect quote for this video!

@unclegardener

2 жыл бұрын

I need to learn how to break the rules.

@gg22tt11

2 жыл бұрын

Didnt know picasso played chess, nice!

@unclegardener

Жыл бұрын

Bruh. I watched this video 10 months ago and even commented but I still don’t know how to sacrifice. 😂😂 At least now I can understand the video.

@cavemann_

Жыл бұрын

I really dislike this quote because it's more about knowing the cause and effect. Especially in art. At the end of the day you combine "the rules" to create something fresh rather than break them.

I usually sacrifice all those pieces by move 10, but I can't find the checkmate afterward...

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Haha right?! Doesn't always work out this nicely for me either

@randomminecraftplayer6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChessVibesOfficial no, he means he blunders the pieces :P

@Habo1003

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomminecraftplayer6857 he knows

@randomminecraftplayer6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@Habo1003 then reverse sarcasm ftw :D

@hisuianzoroark5726

Жыл бұрын

@@randomminecraftplayer6857 Yeah. The only difference between a sacrifice and a blunder is the move rating, but blunders don't have to be captures, so...

Great game! 😮 *goes on to sacrifice queens for rooks because Nelson said so*

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Lol as long as you go down swinging =P

I find it funny how in the first half, as he's saying things like "so I decided to sacrifice this piece since it's necessary to open up the position" or "this move is very important for me", the bar just keeps dropping lower and lower like "tf you doing"

@dougveganparadisebuilder5808

2 жыл бұрын

His opponent didn't defend optimally. If he did, Nelson wouldn't have shown us this game because he would have lost because of his basically unsound sac. But sometimes these sacrifices work, especially in something like blitz when decisions are made fast.

@coreyeverett5500

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 I wouldn't call the sacrifice unsound. Just because a 4000 ELO engine can see the optimal way to defend something doesn't mean that, given the time and circumstance, it's a bad move. That's the thing with engines, they're usually good for checking your games, but at some point you have to treat them like the homeless guy yelling advice at you from an underpass.

@sebastianoparenti3536

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreyeverett5500underpass homeless guys are often GM's so don't be tripping, take Dirty Joe's Advice

@hankmoody666

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreyeverett5500 you have a good point, but at the highest level, players are definitely good enough to be completely winning after that rook sac unless it’s a blitz game. The main thing that differs GM’s from top engines is that the engines have slightly better moves consistently, but GM’s 99/100 times GM’s will take advantage of a -3 blunder

@Wexexx

2 жыл бұрын

@@hankmoody666 I mean, of course they will. And there's basically tens of times a super GM sac'd a rook/queen etc to get a check mate. And yet, given an intel i9 10700K a computer will find a way to pull through. Something those GMs did not. That's kind of the difference, even if you're really good at the game you're not even close to being able to make the moves a computer does. That's kinda the point of the raw processing power. It's also the reason you have ''human moves'' and ''computer moves''. Because some computer moves end up with a "do this move and you'll get a mate in 39", which is something noone in this world is able to calculate.

Nelson you are an excellent teacher! Clear and concise and you explain things well for those of us who are fairly new to chess without being condescending.

@petergreen5337

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

honestly, Nelson is a really good instructor. i have been following other channels like gotham or adigator, but their lessons.. are jut not pratical as nelson's. thank you Nelson!

@ChessVibesOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@asmodeus7672

2 жыл бұрын

I mean gotham is quite good too

@darrylkassle361

2 жыл бұрын

@@asmodeus7672 but yeah Nelson understands and remembers the truffles of us lesser chess mortals.

@potatoboy549

2 жыл бұрын

@@asmodeus7672 Gotham doesn’t go as much in depth. He has a sense of humor that makes it watchable, but he’s not as practical.

@erezsolomon3838

2 жыл бұрын

What about Danya?

Do you have any tricks for figuring out when to sacrifice the king?

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Lol - I guess when you run out of other pieces to sacrifice?!

@mtaur4113

2 жыл бұрын

Every game as early as you can. Unfortunately, it's not a legal move to do it all at once so you have to be committed to making it work.

@alphazero0

2 жыл бұрын

Try GM Abish Mathew videos he took world champion Vishwanath Anand queen with the king.

I like the way you teach and explain why you did these moves. Thank you for these great content and information 👏 🙏 👍

@ChessVibesOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

An inactive piece is as good as a captured piece.

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

In some cases yes!

I think that one of the most important sacrifice rules is: think of what will happen if the opponent won't accept the sacrifice. You may have thought of a great tactic which forces a win, if the opponent accepts the sac, but sometimes they can reject it and it backfires on you. Example game: Légal vs Saint Brie: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 d6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bg4 5. Nxe5? Bxd1?? 6. Bxf7+ Ke7 7. Nd5# Here, black did accept the sacrifice and lost, but if they played 5... Nxe5!, they would have been up a piece and have a good game.

Always love sacrifices where the plan comes together. Paul Morphy was the absolute grandmaster of sacrifices

@jelmergoede4902

2 жыл бұрын

He really was!

Qf8 was a blunder by your opponent. Analysis immediately goes from -5.1 to +4.7.

Well done Nelson. Just subscribed! All your tips are well explained and something average players can grasp and possibly use as part of our improvement.

Nice video! Stockfish hated that rook sac so much that he nicknamed you Tal haha

My eyes lit up when I discovered Nxh5 very quickly. Rated 950, feels good to pick up on that

Man, you played like a barbarian! I hope to model this. Nice win!

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Nelson you are a gifted teacher! Your mind controls your words as admirably as your play. Cheers.

From the position before you made the sacrifice, stockfish’s best move is a4. If both players play Stockfish from that point on it transposes into a beautiful Queen and King vs Rook and King endgame where white uses check to capture the Rook and then uses their King and Queen together to mate Black. The Rook sacrifice, on the other hand, just about loses by force when both players play the best moves. Funny thing is, if Black ignores your Knight sacrifice (which is the best move at that point) and plays a3, they are completely winning.

Just what I needed More ways to give my opponent material

Enjoyable and informative. Well done and thank you for all of your hard work. Love the channel

though the sacrifice was suboptimal, you could have played rxh5, black can take it back with his rook or move ng6. If he took the rook with his own, you check with nxh5 and then take his queen after he moves to h8. (if he goes h7 you force him away from the queen with bh7+) if he didnt take the rook, you go qe4 to threaten qxg6, only thing black can do to survive for a bit is sac their queen on f7

Very cool. This the middle game, is where I struggle the most. I've been playing chess since the early 80's. Great content. Thank you.

I'm curious why the eval drop so much when you sacrifice the exchange (R vs N)? What was the computer best move or your opponent best response to that sacrifice?

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Good question! The computer liked all the next few moves until he played Qf8. Before Qf8 it was -4 for black if he played dxe5. It's such a weird move though because it opens up his king to discovered check with d6 from the bishop on c4, but then after Kf8 I don't really have an attack any more. Really tough move to find in a 3/0 blitz game though. And after Qf8 then I'm just winning at that point.

@TheAlexchartrand91

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChessVibesOfficial thanks!

*Me, a professional at hanging pieces:* I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you

Great content! Learning a lot from your videos. Also, one of your games was covered by agadmator recently. Great game too!

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man! Too bad he didn't mention I have a channel, but hey I'll take it.

Trying to work our those checkmate patterns was really satisfying. Speaking of satisfying: what an awesome game!

beautiful game. thank you for that analysis!

Best chess channel. You have a way of breaking down the education into structured, logical points, in a way that other chess educators can't. Others seem to be "all over the place", as it happens when most brilliant people teach. But you have a way to make things seem logical and structured. Your videos are a joy to watch.

Nicely explained! One of my favourite chess channel

Beautiful lesson.Thank you very much.

great video, very well explained. i have been struggling to get to the next level in chess for the last while, i feel im too defensive and dont fully understand that its ok to lose pieces, provided its done intelligently, so this type of video really helped!

Great teaching lesson. Thank you very much. Watch out next time I play chess!

These sacrifices were pure genius and art. Fantastic job

7:53 you also blocked his king for retreating to king side, now he's there and king is exposed that's why engine says White is completely winning

You are a great presenter and your channel is brilliant. And you have literally the best music outro of any chess channel in history. Bravo 👏

@ChessVibesOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🎶🎶

Beautiful game! You went all 19th century there 👌❤️

This was very informative, thank you

What a wonderful game ! Thanks for sharing it

Yet another excellent presentation. Thanks.

9:03 "But I had a really cool move here" My brain: "Must be en passant" "It involves a queen sacrifice" My brain: "oh"

After watching your videos I recently implemented two moves for a victory 1. Protected a queen with a knight for a checkmate setup 2. Sacrificed a rook to lure the queen away so that I can enforce the checkmate Thanks for these amazing videos!

You teached me alot thanks!

just amazing. it is truly art. love your videos

That game was a perfect example of how beautiful chess can be. :)

Very Cool Planing, Smart Indeed, Thanks Big N ... M.

I remember the first time i sacrificed a horsie and a queen to make a bishop and rook checkmate.it feels amazing to calculate that far in a real game

Great, underrated videos!

That was a crazy mate. Awesome video

Thanks a lot !

When you sac something other than the queen Engine:what are you doing When you sac your queen Engine:Yusss!

nelson: i had a reason stockfish: deadlost for white

Been here since 10k subs cant wait for 1m!!

Lovely game to demonstrate sacrifices. Surprised to see the calculations as except rooks none of the other pieces were inline to attack king. Plz. let me know how to develop such visibility.

Good work Nelson

Your instincts were good! Very nice checkmating attack...

saw the mate 4 moves out im happy now

this feels like a strategy game anime

High-level checkmate. Bravo

4:33 i like how stockfish throws up after Rxh5 lol

I was so close to finding the mate in 6, I saw the right moves to checkmate if he moved the king but I forgot he could block the rook check with his queen

That was awesome!!! What a great game!!!

just sacrificing pieces - Thomas Wilson Barnes sacrificing to take your opponent into deep forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one - Mikhail Tal

I actually already know how to sac my queen very well. I dont know why the computer calls it a “blunder”

very beautiful game. Tx for sharing

Alekhine and Tal would have loved this game

Love your vids, you are such an amazing teacher and your vids are easy to follow compared to other Chess channels!

@ChessVibesOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

I saw Nh5 for the double check, but I couldn't find the mate because I kept trying to go Qg7+ instead of Qh8+. I got hyper focused on capturing his queen with Nxg7 after Qxg7.

This guy : sacrifice queen for checkmate Meanwhile me* : sacrificed the queen for free

That was awesome!

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

thank you this helped me how to attack better

Hey just saw your game on Agadmators channel. Very nice.

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy! Didn't even know someone had submitted it!

@ReinaldosChessLessons

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChessVibesOfficial you have good subscribers/students.

11:30 - that R+N checkmate on a border is often seen in atomic variant :)

Aside from the wonderful video, wasn’t there a pawn blunder on e4 at the beginning since you left it undefended when you took out the bishop instead?

@Qoko88

Жыл бұрын

Interesting this hasn't been answered yet, but technically no. This is a sideline in the Alekhine's Defense (1.e4 Nf6) that not many Black players enjoy, despite being better (kind of like the sacrifice later on)! After 2.Bc4?! Nxe4 is playable, but White has 3.Bxf7+! Kxf7 4.Qh5+ and White always has Qd5+ winning the knight back (if 4....Ke6? 5.Qg4+ does, as Black really doesn't want to run the king up the board). Material is even and Black lost castling rights. Engines enjoy Black, as they develop slightly faster anyway, but it's unpleasant for humans.

Instantly spotted the double check, followed by Qh8+... I expected black to resign as he knew he was lost.

Nice content!

@ChessVibesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Neat. This shows the power of double checks.

I too sacrificed my queen, bishop and rook in a game once and got really nicely checkmated.

You are the best one explain sacrifice as a strategy not tactic...thanks too much

Another great video.

Stockfish had a nervous breakdown during this game

Thanks

Show a positional sacrifice of a rook for a knight or bishop!

My chess app let me go capturing all his pieces at the same time it was setting up a checkmate while I was distracted. Another game I sacrificed a higher piece to get a better controlling position and it worked as in time I won.

4:40, when you sacrifice your knight, the evaluation bar says , you are losing,. Opponent missed that

The engine is going crazy after the SACRIFICES

im so proud of myself for instantly finding the mate in 6

Those were sweet sacrifices.

6:55 - Whooooooa hold up, Stockfish haaaaates Qf8, what's the story yo?

@mtaur4113

2 жыл бұрын

(ChessVibes addresses this in a different comment thread. There's a pawn capture that Stockfish wants to hold the position and eventually win on material, and Qf8 was the last chance for this capture to be good. After Qf8, the threat is imminent and it's too late.)

That moment when a sacrifice was brilliant, but you played a blunder in the next move

One time me and my stepfather played chess i had a plan to checkmate him, the plan went both was i sacrificed my rook, if he took it , 4-5 moves checkmate, if not( which what happened in the game) i mated him in 3 moves

Alekhine proved: the power and ability of pieces and pawns are more important than its point value.

Now I’m curious of the best defending moves after you saced

Brilliant game! You were thinking on your feet.

Beautiful game!!!

beautiful game thanks for sharing, loved the "don't try this at home" disclaimer at the end don't just sacrifice hoping for the best

5:39 nelson is used to drawing arrows in lichess

at 9:10, I move the white horse to e8, king forced to g8, again I sac the queen at h8, then rook to h5, and mate after black queen momentarily blocks rook. Not sure if that is more or fewer moves, but it is another option to achieve forced mate. Or maybe I missed something.

For some reason I was not considering taking the pawn with the knight. I was thinking knight E8 double check, then sacrificing queen for rook, then taking pawn with rook for another check, move knight back check, then either take queen with pawn or rook h7 check.

You could have gotten a queen to redeem you before if you retreated your queen on the same diagonal and discovered check with knight to get a tempo on the queen