Why would you need to remove the thing off of the crank at all if deleting the balance shafts? Itll just be doing nothing..

To keep the oil pressure the same, can you just press out the black plastic rear on the two-gear balance shaft and put it back? This way will disconnect the balance shafts from the crank shaft and oil pressure remained unchanged.

Great info! I do have one question do you need to re-install the housing that holds the balance shafts?

@funkyphil1974

6 ай бұрын

I did only because why not however I don’t see any reason you have too. Thanks and Happy Holidays my friend

@joshuasherman3892

6 ай бұрын

​@funkyphil1974 Thanks man! Yah makes sense to install it add a little extra strength but I was thinking about leaving it out for the little extra oil capacity. Happy holidays man!

@texastoyotachannel8951

6 ай бұрын

Whe. I don't mine with the light light pulleys I'm leaving the case out. That's a good bit of weight reduction.

This is great info I’ve been looking for it , my motor is already fully built but do you think i can delete just the balance shaft and not need to take the motor out and balance ,

@johnchadwicktilton

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same.

@funkyphil1974

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you can but you must be careful to clean all metal shavings from tapping the oil plug.

@glenglene8473

6 ай бұрын

I think it's easier to tap the lower housing part.

Still running okay without the balance shafts? i ask because my Balance Shafts spun the bearings and wore into the upper oil pan. So i'm considering a balance shaft delete option.

@funkyphil1974

Ай бұрын

Hey, how’s it going? Yes, I’m still running perfectly fine without the balance shaft It’s been about s 4 years and it’s been running great. There is a slight vibration at idle otherwise everything is perfectly fine.

As typical, I'll be rebuilding my engine in my 08 tC here soon and I'm only doing this shit once if I have my way lol. Replacing all internals, machine shop etc and deleting these shafts. Question is, how does it affect driving/vibration etc, timing, ECU etc?? Any troubles you've experienced?? Did you have retune ECU?? Sorry so many questions but I've only been working on cars for a year now and my tc is both my baby and my only car at this time (will be dropping in used temp engine during rebuild of mine.) Any info helps and thank you for the vid & assistance, helps a ton!!

@richstarbuck4315

3 жыл бұрын

I removed mine and the knock sensor code keeps coming back and then won't let the transmission shift to overdrive. It doesn't seem to be that much vibration but evidently the knock sensor can tell. I have not found a work around for this yet so may have to buy new shafts and put them back

@richstarbuck4315

3 жыл бұрын

I did find a work around by mounting the knock sensor high on the engine mount

@joshlewellen9076

2 жыл бұрын

@@richstarbuck4315 is it still running good?

@richardstarbuck5208

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshlewellen9076 Yes, it has a little more vibration, but cannot be felt while driving, only at idle

@ceoink3936

7 ай бұрын

​@@richstarbuck4315where did u install the knock sensor

It really seems somewhat daring but ingenious ..

@ceoink3936

11 ай бұрын

So your saying it works well

I understand that it accelerates very well but that at idle it presents vibration, therefore it is necessary to replace the damper puleys with one of better performance, right?

@funkyphil1974

2 жыл бұрын

There is lil vibration I just replaced my hermonic balancer with hp AIT one. I been on this setup for 9 years no issues!! And I am boosted making 350hp. So it works great for me.

I would like to know if after eliminating the 2 balance shafts the engine worked correctly? no vibrations?

@Z-Ack

3 ай бұрын

Good vibrations..

Do you think it is better to leave the drive gear of the balancers that goes on the crankshaft? there will be no imbalance problems?

@CSOCSO

2 жыл бұрын

my understanding is if you remove the gear off of the crankshaft you will need to get it rebalanced. ( if you take apart the engine to rebuild you will do that anyway) but lets say if they balanced the cranckshaft with the gear on you can leave it and just remove the balance shaft and plug the hole

@anthonysupplee858

Жыл бұрын

The guys on Rav4 world break the gear off.

Can you remove the balance shafts with the motor in the car, without messing with the crankshaft? Leaving the gear on the crank?

@funkyphil1974

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t do it that way because I removed the ring gear and had the rotating assembly all rebalance without the balance shafts in. Plus I did this same time I rebuilt my engine. Now can you remove this I believe so but that’s a lot of work to do it in the car. Much easier on an engine stand. Plus I don’t know how it would run without being rebalance again and the ring gear still on.

@wagonkit

3 жыл бұрын

@@funkyphil1974 but is it possible? Without any problems?

@funkyphil1974

3 жыл бұрын

Ok so lets go though this. You need to remove the following 1. Valve cover 2. Passenger side motor mount 3. Timing cover 4. S pipe 5. Oil pan 6. Oil pump 7. Oil pump chain 8. Now you should be able to remove the cover for the gears as well as the gears and bearings.

@wagonkit

3 жыл бұрын

@@funkyphil1974 ahh. I see. So possible, but not quite as simple as I had imagined. I guess my question remains, how does the engine perform without the balance shafts? The same? Any more responsive? Thanks for the quick replies

@funkyphil1974

3 жыл бұрын

My car is boosted and without my balance shafts I am quickly able to rev up faster creating boost. But there is a noticeable shake at idle and it is highly recommended that you purchase an ATI super damper to replace your oem hermonic balance pulley.

When u take the gare from the shaft did you take it to any machine shop

@funkyphil1974

10 ай бұрын

Well I removed the gear myself with heat and brass hammer with a few taps. But yes the entire rotating assembly went to be balanced at the machine shop..

@ceoink3936

7 ай бұрын

Is it a must to do all that

@ceoink3936

7 ай бұрын

What If I just move the balance shafts and block the hold can it work like that

What size tap did you use?

@funkyphil1974

2 жыл бұрын

Irwin Hanson High Carbon Steel Metric Plug Tap 10mm-1.00 1 pc

@timsouttahere

2 жыл бұрын

@@funkyphil1974 I used 6mm tap and set screw. We'll see if it works tomorrow 🤞

@funkyphil1974

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsouttahere as long as it’s tight it should be good. I also used lil sealant.

@timsouttahere

2 жыл бұрын

@@funkyphil1974 I used red loctite

@funkyphil1974

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsouttahere me too!

So what happens if I don't block off the oil feed?

@solarastuff

11 ай бұрын

Oil pressure goes to 0 and engine go boom.

@funkyphil1974

10 ай бұрын

Just like solarastuff said it will allow oil to drop into the crankcase instead of spraying it with pressure, this will cause low to no oil pressure..

@chrismemphis8062

10 ай бұрын

@@funkyphil1974 ty, I had a good mechanic do the mod. He blocked it off, car has been running well for over 5k miles. Thanks!

@MercurySaturn

Ай бұрын

@@chrismemphis8062 still running okay? i ask because my balance shafts spun the bearings and wore into the upper engine pan. i don't want to replace the upper pan, so i'm considering the Balance Shaft delete option.

@chrismemphis8062

Ай бұрын

@@MercurySaturn yeah, probably 8k miles since I took them out and plugged the oil passage. It sounds a bit rough w/o it, but not terrible.