First off - Sorry for the long comment. If you want to get sodium carbonate (aka soda ash) at a better price than the laundry isle, visit a pool supple store. It is sold as a way to raise the pH of the pool water. It's also sold in the pool area of places like Wal~Mart , Lowes, and many of the other box stores. To get the "correct" mix the easy way is to place the parts in the tank, fill with water and connect the charger. Now add the soda ash and mix it until you get about a one amp per square foot draw on the charger. Watch the meter and it will also tell you when to clean the anodes, the current will drop as they get dirty. Don't let the current drop to zero, the solution itself could cause the part to start rusting again. You can also use this method to clean inside an object like a motorcycle gas tank, old engine cooling hopper or similar. Use something like 1/4" stock and bend it to hang in the tank. Fill with solution and hook up the power. Tank size is limited by your creativity and power supply. I have done auto frames in a tank made of straw bales with a heavy canvas and plastic and used a DC welder as the power source. Two items that are CRITICAL. One make sure that the part you are cleaning is connected to the negative lead. Get it wrong and you could easily destroy the part. It will act as the anode and be consumed. Two use bare steel, or carbon rod/plate only as the anode. Do not use galvanized or stainless steel. The reason for this is that the zinc and chromium will be dissolved out of the metal as it is consumed in the solution. The solution now becomes a toxic hazardous material ! ( Zinc = Stainless = Hexavalent chromate) Using common salt isn't a good idea either, The gas it gives off is chlorine ! One other item that Dale didn't mention. Don't do this inside your shop. The bubbles given off are hydrogen and oxygen. In a closed shop these will cause 2 problems. One is that it can easily rust every steel/iron item in the place quickly. The other is that those two gasses build up in a room, find an ignition source and BOOM ! Steve

@alimohmmad8316

5 жыл бұрын

ى ةاعه

@steadyeddie7453

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the details. I have been wondering how much sodium carbonate to use. Trial and error doesn't really work because there are too many variables with using parts having different amounts of rust, and the condition of the anodes.

@tbelding

3 жыл бұрын

Zinc != stainless. Galvanization involves no chromium at all. The only issue with using galvanized metal as the anode (remember, zinc is used for sacrificial anodes for boats) is that the zinc can encourage other plating and alloying. If all you're doing is cleaning a rusty engine or something, and all you have is galvanized pipe, I doubt it'll cause any damage. You'll want to just take a file or sander to cut through the zinc plating.

@Blazer02LS

3 жыл бұрын

@@tbelding Never noticed the rest of that missing. The reason why galvanized isn't used is because the zinc will cause issues with the solution itself and can become zinc carbonate which an environmental hazard. It's use on a boat or other areas as an anode isn't a large issue as it takes far longer for it to corrode and it is in a very diluted state.

@tbelding

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blazer02LS - That's incorrect. Galvanization _is_ zinc carbonate, deposited on iron. Using a galvanized pipe (or other galvanized steel) for an anode may cause zinc carbonate to precipitate off of the pipe, but it's inherently no more of an environmental hazard than the original buried iron pipe was. Apparently some people use galvanized sheet as a temporary replacement source for zinc when doing their own zinc plating. (Who knew? I didn't, until I researched it. ) Makes you wonder. If it's so toxic to the environment, why are we allowed to use it, especially when a lot of those pipes are buried in fields for irrigation feeds. (We dug up hundreds of feet of it from our property, where it was used to supply watering tanks for horses, plus watering vegetable gardens)

Dale - Excellent video - one of the best I've seen on using electrolisis. Thanks a bunch Rod

excellent, I've seen a few vids on electrolysis but this has to be my favorite : not half-ass but crisp and efficient. Thanks ! Keep on trucking ! (from France)

Great video Dale, I've used this process on really corroded firearms. I've found if your vigilant you can remove the rust and keep the majority of the original finish. The neat thing is it will remove rust even on assembled threaded parts, if the water can get in the rust will get out. Great job!

Dale, when I watched was unable to leave comment, that's why I emailed you. I'm a fan of this process. Great video.

Another fantastically useful video! Thanks Dale!

Very nice setup. I have seen shopdogsam and mrpete222 do similar and get good results but neither of their tanks was as classy as yours. Thanks for the video.

I thought for sure your tabletop would short out on your cage but when you were lifting the table out I saw that you placed clear plastic insulators on each side. I think that's important enough to mention so people don't burn out their battery chargers. Thanks again for a great video Dale.

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Marcel Hebert thanks of your comment

I'm planning to build one of these sooner or later , Great Video! Currently on smaller parts I just use white vinegar and water about 10:1 ratio Water/Vinegar , a good 24 hr soak and the rust just wipes off .

nice set up. great info.

Nice video Dale. Thanks for taking the time to do what you do. Looking forward to the BarZ Bash next month and meeting some of my favorite YT creators!

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Charles Romeo Im glade you liked it :-)

Great demo Dale, thanks for sharing!

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Ray Caniglia thanks Man

Great work Dale! Great Video!

Brilliant :) I already have a 50 gallon container (mine's blue not white but other than colour exactly the same) that I wanted to use to clean up some old Land Rover wheels. Now all I need is the strip steel for the inner cage. I was going to use just loose hanging strips of steel but your way is much neater so thank you for this :)

I have used a pickup bed lined with a plastic tarp works well. I use the string together method of about six flat bars for anodes. I derusted a couple of Willys truck fenders, hoods and grills. I ran it for several weeks with several anode changes. With a pressure washer and electrolysis it took off all the paint also.

Hi Dale, great video, given how tight the table is in the drum I think you should point out that it is important to avoid any short circuiting. I would use something like plastic to jam down the sides perhaps.

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

He did use plastic on the sides - you can see it when he lifts out the table at the end. However if he didn't make a pointless welded cage, then he could position the electrodes where ever they were needed - for example 2 on each side of the large flat table.

You are right! I have been doing this outdoors and away from ignition sources for no reason, I assumed it was hydrogen.Thanks for the videos, your time and knowledge.. Keep the videos coming!

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

It is hydrogen. That comes off one electrode and oxygen comes off the other electrode. But the amounts of gas released are so small that it's irrelevant in any normal room that humans can still breathe in. Obviously it would be dumb to perform electrolysis inside a sealed closet, however LOL

That is a very slick anode cage. Other things being equal, the efficiency of the process is dependent on using maximum possible anode area and you have that, plus it is distributed all around the tank. As to how much washing soda to use, I use about a big handful per gallon, but it does not seem to be critical. Shopdogsam amd mrpete222 both have electrolysis videos, much smaller scale. Might also mention that marvellous though it is, electrolysis will not remove pitting: it will not put Iron back into the pits. And that is the biggest electolysis job I've ever seen. Bravo.

@bikingmnviking3801

8 жыл бұрын

+Juan Rivero You are correct and as such it is prefered for those who restore old tools. I should build one of these but I just built a big 2 speed 8 inch wire wheel belt driven from a 1/2hp GE moto and used that for a couple of decades. Gobs of torque (capacitor run motor) and gets the job done speedily if sometimes a little dusty.

@juanrivero8

8 жыл бұрын

Yes. I have restored many a tool with electrolysis. I wonder what to do with pitting. I wonder if you could use J-B weld on it and then shape it. With a file if necessary.

Never thought of using electrolysis for rust removal. Thanks Dale, John

Cool video, Dale!

Nice project Dale. I'd like to hear and see more on the Engine Hoist modifications or did I miss that episode...lol

A method I have had some success with is getting one of those plastic kiddie pools and filling it with salt and vinegar. Different process and much slower (normally takes a couple days) however the end result is very similar. I removed the rust on some staircase railings using this method and it worked very well. I usually just leave the pool outside uncovered and let it do its thing.

Intermodel bulk tank (IBT) would be a good option for lager items you can pick them up cheap used and they are made to be moved with a pallet truck and they have a built in drain valve

Great video Dale. :)

Always wanted to try this, great info. And.....holy welder collection Bat Man!

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+kmcwhq I have a few more hiding from th camera

Very cool video. In the Q&A, can you provide some closeups of the surface after it comes out of the tank? I noticed there was definitely a difference at the water line when you were hitting it with the flapper wheel, but the camera was too far away to get a good view of the condition of the surface. Also, did you notice if the surface impurities (oils, etc) on the table made a difference on how effective the process was in those areas? Thanks :)

All I can say is when you do it you do it big!, I've done 2 videos on electrolysis, but never a table, also it seemed like when I would add more anodes the amps would quickly rise and over heat my charger, have a look if you get a chance. thanks for sharing

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Stanga Nice job:-)

I would really recommend distilled or deionzed water as chlorine gas will be made at the anode

Love it. I used the same approach to etch except I put on masking to protect where I didn't want to remove metal. How do you dispose of the iron oxide? Is it safe to pour down the drain. Thanks for another great vid. Paul

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Devey From what I've heard it is safe to pour down the drain. Here in Georgia all the soil is red with iron oxide.

Fantastic! Question on how you dispose of the water from the bucket and the big tank? Into the grass? Down the drain? Where do you dump the water when finished. I have a small project I am about to start but have not seen where the used water is dumped... thanks

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is "YES". Iron-based solutions are commonly used on lawns ("Weed-and-Feed"). The washing soda is actually a surfactant so should improve the water penetration of soils. But too much in one place might harm plants, so dilute it and spread it around. There is nothing to harm the drains, the washing soda solution is basically soap. The iron-based gunk may stain some surfaces, so don't leave it on concrete or grout.

nice video...thanks...

Similar to other videos ,but much neater.Would a circulating pump with a filter help keep the sludge from building up? I would think that a higher voltage/amperage power supply would speed things up,IE MORE POWER!

At 17:25 you talked about seeing the sludge on top of the solution and if you dont see it then something is wrong. Maybe if you do see a large amount of sludge, something is wrong? I am wondering if you need more anodes? The purpose of the anodes is to attract the rust, correct? Maybe the table is releasing rust faster than the anodes can attract it? Or maybe your anode cage is saturated with rust and cant attract it as efficiently. I wonder if you cleaned the anode cage, skimmed off the sludge, and ran the process again, would the sludge reappear? I'm just trying to fine tune an already good process. Thanks for the video.

Dale, are there any environmental considerations that need to be discussed with the waste water or residue from the anodes? Great video and I plan to utilize it to clean some items that I got with my new to me lathe. Thanks! -John

@magosauxilliarusy2k4theomn98

2 жыл бұрын

so long as you use washing soda and avoid stainless steel for the anode, cathode, and any structural metal, you can either pour it down the drain or into your grass. just make SURE that you didn't use any stainless steel anywhere in the water. hexavalent chromium is extremely toxic.

Did you make a video on your engine stand for lifting higher?

Great video - glad I found your channel...like the electrolysis cage...far better than my rebar & copper wire setup...guess I know what I'll be welding up this weekend ;-)PS - Love your math at 7:50...

@BuildSomthingCool

7 жыл бұрын

thanks for your comment ":-)

i like to use apple cider vinegar to take rust off, its super cheap, takes the rust off in only a few hours, doesn't dig into the metal that much either, fill a tub with the stuff, dunk the part in, pull it out about 8-12 hours latter, give it a soak in baking soda and water to neutralize, then rinse and dry. but most things i derust are small parts. this looks good for larger pieces. great video man

@TheOtherBill

8 жыл бұрын

+James Savage Agreed! I take old salsa jars and toss nuts and washers and screws into them as I remove them. Then top off with any cheap vinegar and let sit for up to a couple days. Perfect for small pieces of old hardware that you can't replace and would be very hard to clean. Plus it makes the shop smell like an old style Italian sandwich shop - love it!

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+James Savage Thanks for the info. :-)

@SAVAGE_IRON

8 жыл бұрын

+Metal Tips and Tricks (Dale Derry) sure thing :)

How do you keep your shop that organized and clean..... impossible for me.............. :( This process works great, you could even add more flat stock to increase the current and speed up the process, great demo... ;)

Cool thanks

Man... you are into you!

Hi Dale. I think in this process your table is the anode and your cage is the cathode. Don't go by the + or - signs on the battery charger, the rust is leaving the table and being deposited on to the cage, as we can see by you scraping it off the cage. The table is actually getting smaller and the cage is getting bigger. This makes the table the anode. Think about a sacrifical anode on a boat or a water heater, they get smaller as the process goes on. I think?

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+John C Interesting comment I do know the positive must be on the cage. You will not like the results if you reverse them :-) I'm talking from experience.lol

@nilamotk

8 жыл бұрын

electrical current actually flows from negative to positive.. and yes anodes in water heaters corrode over time.

Excellent Information Lloyd - DigiTek

@BuildSomthingCool

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Stainless steel tank as the cathode would give more cathode area and be easier to clean up. We use it as the anode where I electroplate, (30 years). Or a stainless steel cage. Also if you could introduce heat somehow the results would go up exponentially.

Great job showing how to remove rust. You do need to "bone-up" on the electronic terminology though. "Positive Electron"? You need a little ribbing from time to time.

Thanks for the awesome vid. I'm about to remove the paint and rust from a 1953 Rockwell Delta band saw, and i know that cast iron rusts up almost immediately after coming out of water. Do you have any ideas on what to do after the electrolytic rust removal to prevent it coming right back? Or is the only option to just paint it and hope for the best? Cheers.

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+balisticsquirel Dry it off with compress air then wire brush off the any flash rust. Before painting wipe the parts down with paint thinner.

@balisticsquirel

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. From what i've read there's no getting around there being some rust on a prepped cast iron part. Even industrial processes (pre galvanizing for instance) can't get it perfect. So the best bet is to use a paint that can deal with that bit of surfae rust. Something like Rust-oleum Rusty Metal Primer Spray. Peas.

Hi Dale. I really enjoy your channel, keep up the good work. I'm having a problem using your system of rust removal, maybe you could point me in the right direction. I've been using electrolysis for rust removal for several years. I have been using the separate rods and wires method. I really like your cage idea. I welded up a cage like yours for a 5 gallon bucket. I use a battery charger similar to the one you use. Using the rods I usually draw around 5 amps on the meter on my charger. When turned it on, using the cage, it pegged the meter on my charger, and then shortly after tripped the thermal overload. I switched back and forth a few times between using the cage and using rods, with the same results. any thoughts?

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

You have more metal SURFACE in the water, so you are drawing more current. Reduce the amount of anode material, or use a proper current-limited power supply rather than a simple battery charger. You may be able to reduce the amps by significantly reducing the concentration of salts, but current limiting is much easier.

@mikemotorbike4283

Жыл бұрын

My brief youtube research reveals 2 amps ideal, 1 rounded tbsp/ gal. More washing soda not good too much conductivity. More amps may be faster but too ‘hot ‘

How do you know when it's done? When to stop? Does it stop bubbling?

May have missed it, but, did you use hot rolled or cold rolled for the cage?Would it make any difference?Thanks...

@vicferrari9380

Жыл бұрын

I used cheap hot rolled and sanded off the mill scale. I don't know if it helps or not but only added few minutes to the job.

Sand blasting would have taken much less time and energy. I have used this process on small items, it works well. but for large items. abrasive blasting is the way to go. I will give you credit for dreaming up subject matter for a video though.

Maybe this is just about the cage and medium, but I’m unsure how you powered it.

Tried, paint on rust converter?

take a 24volt charger, handful of road salt what they use for on the road in winter time, after about 5- 10 hours and the rust and paint grease etc is gone, some after treatment with a steel brush

Have you ever tried molasses? I see them using it in other countries for rust removal.

@69hytek

8 жыл бұрын

+1970chevelle396 Molasses works very well, only thing is you can't use the process on cast. Unless of course it's cast you never want to see again. If you're interested the solution is roughly 1/3 molasses to 2/3 water

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+1970chevelle396 No it sound to messy for me.

Watching your video, I was waiting for sparks to fly when the table touched the cage creating a direct short. Were you just lucky or did you do something to avoid that?

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Charles Shanafelt I'm a couple pieces of plastic insulating the table from the cage. Great question.

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't roll and weld a silly top ring on there, then you don't need to worry about that. The top ring does absolutely nothing except get in the way, since it's above the water line.

G'Day from Downunder. I use PH Increase (Soda Ash) to mix with the water, i get it from the harware store in the pool aisle.

Soup is on!...lol...enjoyed, hey nice vise!

What was the current draw on the battery charger?

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+lmelnykowicz I don't know that Amp Meter is broken on the charger

Did anybody catch how many amps and volts were applied ??

7:45 π r² (Pi r squared) is actually the formula for the AREA of a circle. For the circumference, the formula is actually 2 π r (or pi times twice the radius [2 times the radius being the diameter]). Simplified, it would be 3.14ish x the diameter. So, you got the correct approximation, but you named the wrong formula. Just an FYI ;)

Probably not applicable with such a large application, but using a carbon plate or carbon rods will almost eliminate the messy sludge that you get with metal as your anodes.

@Blazer02LS

8 жыл бұрын

+panofish Graphite works great. Just not as cheap as plain steel...

@johnpilagonia5238

8 жыл бұрын

+panofish you can get 1/2" x 36" graphite rods on ebay pretty cheap. mine is lined with 12 around the perimeter and a 12" square plate on the bottom elevated 1 " for sludge clearance. works great, no clean up. just top off the water

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+panofish Thanks for your comment

Positive electrons.....Oufff great vid

@pierresgarage2687

8 жыл бұрын

+TROGLO BYTE Einstein was also laughed at in his time..... LOL

@MaturePatriot

6 жыл бұрын

Positive electrons are called positrons. - Wiki: The positron or antielectron is the antiparticle or the antimatter counterpart of the electron. The positron has an electric charge of +1 e, a spin of 1/2 (same as electron), and has the same mass as an electron. - However he is not generating positrons. They predominantly come from radioactive decay. LOL

I think you mean Pi x D. Sorry, had to do it. Thanks for the video Dale.

the circumference of a circle is 2Rπ

Don't remove my rest! How can a lazy guy like me survive? LOL! Thanks for the video Dale! Aloha...Chuck

You should have shown the table all cleaned up Dale.

check out shopdogsam he uses zinc for the sacrificial electrode and it lasts longer and the rust doesn't build up on it

@shopdogsam

8 жыл бұрын

,,,, please check the video,, I DO NOT USE ZINC,,,

I believe when electricity passes through water with or with out a electrolyte it generates hydrogen ie. the bubbles you see in the electrolyte when energized. Same happens when you charge a lead acid battery. Hydrogen is highly flammable.

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+joe miller To my knowledge you need to use stainless steel to separate the hydrogen from water from the water plain steel will not work.

@magosauxilliarusy2k4theomn98

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildSomthingCool .... hexavalent chromium risk?

I have used electrolytic rust removal myself and I found that the name of this process is incorrect: It should be named "electrolytic rust conversion" because rust is not fully removed. Electrolysis takes off only part of the rust and converts the remaining red Fe2O3 into black Fe3O4. The rusty surface portions do not come out shiny but black. And then the black stuff has to be mechanically removed by scrubbing or wire wheeling which you could also do directly with the original red rust without electrolysis gaining similar results. This tedious step of mechanical cleaning is not shown in many electrolytic videos. By the way electrolysis can not only be sped up by higher current but more so by higher temperature of the electrolyte by about a factor of 2 for every 10°C of temp. increase. (e.g. from RT of 20°C to 50°C increases the speed by factor of about 8). There are alternative rust removal processes: a) 1 hour vinegar or lemon juice bath + scrubbing (cheap, effective, fast) b) 2 weeks molasses bath + light scrubbing (very cheap , very effective, very slow), c) 30 min Evaporust + rinsing (very effective, fast, expensive) for comparison d) several days electrolytic bath + scrubbing (very cheap, effective, slow). For light rust and small to medium parts vinegar and Evaporust seem appropriate and for heavy rust (remove heavy rust layers first by rough cleaning) and for large parts molasses and electrolysis seems preferable.

@roleic7246

8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Lewis I am not sure if carbon electrodes are the best choice. As I understand iron or steel (no stainless though) should be used for the electrodes because it releases iron ions into the electrolyte which help the rust conversion and I heard - but I am not sure if it is true - some iron ions even get deposited on the work surface as a partial healing of the corrosion. If that healing part is true then it would constitute an advantage over pure rust removal processes.

@roleic7246

8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Lewis Using iron or steel electrodes turns the electrolyte rust red to brownish and leaves rust red slurrey on the bottom and a thick red-brown rust layer on the iron electrodes.

@duobob

8 жыл бұрын

+rol eic Even when using Evaporust you will get black deposits when removing rust from carbon steel. The chelating agent in Evaporust only works on iron oxide (rust), nothing else, but after the iron oxide is removed the carbon from the rusty metal still remains on the surface of the part . The higher the carbon in the steel, and the more rust, the more black left behind. With Evaporust, the black coating comes off quite easily.

Nice build! Probably worth mentioning that this process will give off Hydrogen gases, very flammable. With a container of that size its probably a good idea to leave that garage door open.

The nanoe sound made me think something was buzzing in my house, lol

:47 the positive side of a car battery charger is actually negative to get the electrons to flow. If it were positive to positive all you'd be making is a parallel battery cell. Good to explain that because people who do it directly from a battery are going to want to connect it up in reverse. Edit: For all the time you spent setting up this rig I am not sure you saved any time from just getting into it with a wire wheel on your favorite rotary demon. And why not use sheet metal? Or rebar....cheap, plentiful, no need to even weld it, just drop several links in there and if you use thin stuff the "sacraficial anode" is cheap enough to throw away rather than waste more time cleaning it up. But I suppose it makes for a better video, right? PS: The lift would be a GREAT candidate for parkerization. I've even seen Naval Jelly in spray on form and for something that is just big and crude (like ships are) its a great match. www.amazon.com/VHT-SP229-Rust-Convertor-Can/dp/B002NUABUO/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1460930097&sr=1-4&keywords=naval+jelly+rust+remover There are cheaper products but its great for keeping down rust around the shop. Realize this does penetrate and form a bond into the steel so it will never look like brand spanking new but if you let it get seriously rusty you usually don't care anyway. Products like this are worth buying and a HUGE time saver. Also, not to nitpit but you throw that solution into the road. This is why lakes are overgrown with algae and weeds -- its a phosphate, the middle number in fertilizer, and exactly what the govt and most green minded people do not want you doing. I've seen a whole lake, a nice fishing one, get overgrown until it looked like a swamp and had muskrats going through the middle. Before I used to fish walleye, bass,..etc out of it. The farmer used too much fertilizer in an area where the run off could get rained right into the lake. It was literally almost an OVERNIGHT change. Phosphates are really something to respect. Sorry to preach, didn't intend any negative tone, just educational & originally so that anyone who used this method via battery would have success. Some people don't like AC plug in stuff near water. Esp other countries where they have 220-240 everywhere.

@coffeemaddan

8 жыл бұрын

+BikingMNViking Positive on a battery is the same as +ve on a charger. Current flows from +ve to -ve (electricians view), electrons flow from -ve to +ve (physicists view).

@bikingmnviking3801

8 жыл бұрын

BINGO! ( just so the people doing this know because I've seen threads where people had the opposite reaction and no one answered as to why for years or even at all)

@j.f.aitchison9903

4 жыл бұрын

How does a phosphate get into a solution of washing soda (sodium carbonate, Na₂CO₃) in water (H₂O) and iron oxide ( Fe₂O₃ and/or Fe₃O₄}? I doubt whether this pretty harmless mixture would have the effect of stimulating the growth of algae and weeds in a lake.

Dale The best source of reliable info I have found is nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/conservationmanual/File10a.htm They state you can use the "metal can" for one side of the circuit ie POS. Yes it will degrade the walls but if thick they will last for years. My tank is 24 inch on each side and 1/4 plate and was a boat fuel tank. I did not build it and would have gone thinner for a fuel tank. Any material that will dissolve in water and create ions will work as an electorlyte. I use baking soda and it works just fine. Source above also recommends NaOH but cautions since it is caustic and a definite hazard to the eyeballs. Chlorine gas is made by electrolysis of salt and water solution. Yes it works if you are willing to put up with chlorine gas generation. NOT recommended especially so if toxic is a big concern. This process ideally should be done outdoors or in very well ventilated space - BOTH oxygen and hydrogen are generated. It is the same process the Navy uses to generate oxygen - the hydrogen is dumped. Dan Bentler

Don't use salt... Table salt is Sodium Chloride, which when separated through electrolysis creates Chlorine gas...

I plate for a living. all the comments about it producing hydrogen are correct, but it is of no danger. the hydrogen is only concentrated at the solution surface. once it mixes withe the air it is so diluted a torch wouldn't ignite it. you would only need to worry about it of the tank had a blanket of bubbles covering it. those bubbles would contain the hydrogen, but even then they would go pop, but not hurt anything.

Baking soda- sodium bicarbonate Washing soda- sodium carbonate

"Electricity is lazy and always wants to take the least path of resistance" A better way of thinking about this is "Electricity seeks every path available to return to its source, with the current in each path being proportional the inverse of its resistance". The reason we care about this is safety. If we start thinking that electricity will only take the path of least resistance we start thinking it won't take other paths, and then people start dying. So remember folks, there may be a path of least resistance but that doesn’t mean your body is not a path of sufficiently low resistance to get you killed.

7:48 - 24 feet seems a little big. Ha,ha.

dude, buy a $20 kiddie pool

Gotta edit the name. Looks like another autocorrect hit!

@nilamotk

8 жыл бұрын

haha

@CncObsession

8 жыл бұрын

+Max Power He is going have to let us proofread his stuff first.

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+Max Power NO That is just me. LOL

The item you are de-rusting must not come into contact with the ANODE as that will be a total short circuit and the gas given off in the process is HYDROGEN and highly inflammable

"The positive ions... That's not the right word. The positive electrons..." POSITIVE ELECTRONS???? WTF dude?

Troll Alert! At 16:21 you mention Positive Electrons... Sorry, no such thing. Electrons have a negative charge, protons have a positive charge. A positively charged electron is a positron which is an antimatter particle. With a degree in Electrical Engineering I just couldn't keep my mouth shut...

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+user990077 positive correction is always appreciated. No troll alert here :-)

@LambertZero

8 жыл бұрын

+Metal Tips and Tricks (Dale Derry) And positive ions actually is a thing. :-)

@user990077

8 жыл бұрын

+voron11000 Yep. Ionization can create either positive or negative ions. Good point.

@PeterPete

6 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean cations and anions in relation to electrolysis?

@frankross5036

5 жыл бұрын

Now, see how smart you are.

All are not (n)anodes, anodes are positive, cathodes are negative, kinda like women are from Venus type of thing. Good video though. Thanks... Tootles... Wade

your explanation about electrolysis process is wrong.

@BuildSomthingCool

7 жыл бұрын

please tell me where are wrong :-)

@Huffim

7 жыл бұрын

***** google is your friend

@chuckturner6984

7 жыл бұрын

Ajay Nadar quit trolling.

Cut the video down to about 6 or 8 minutes and it would be perfect. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzz

omg.probberly not the best idea to use the grinder over the top of a container of water..dont want to see you zapped m8.😨

So you are saying electricity is like a democrat, lazy and takes the path of least resistance?.

@BuildSomthingCool

8 жыл бұрын

+The Texas Gun Guy YES YES YES