2:14 "Some of you guys on r/homelab need help" True - just to place my all-time-favourite quote from the official homelab-Discord-Server here: "I don't need any of this crap, but since I have it, I need all of it"

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

😆 Sounds about right!

Dude... All I wanted was a spare old PC to use as a Minecraft server. Now I have 2 entire servers running Proxmox with VMs such as pfSense for a firewall, TrueNAS, a Windows 11 VM with a GPU passed through for gaming, 3 Windows server VMs for Active directory and always on VPN, and finally, a windows server VM for the Minecraft servers :D

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

The addiction is real! At least you got the Minecraft server sorted at some point on your journey down that rabbit hole. 😂

You can use enterprise desktops (but as a rule of thumb for virtualization, I prefer quad-core Intel Core i7 and 16 GB to 32 GB of RAM).

Most people around there (including me) do not run servers at home for homelabbing rather than for hosting own stuff (pseudo-production to production), which is not what the term homelab actually means. Speaking of myself, I believe it's a great opportunity to get to know servers and networking a bit better. Probably I'm just a bit traumatized of being the IT-guy for the whole big family and wanted to administrate something purely for me and my satisfaction.

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Being the family IT guy is definitely a curse many of us can relate to! I'm happy to run services for my own use in my lab. Using it day-to-day teaches you about the weird gotchas that occur over time and you wouldn't otherwise see in 100 fresh installs. I don't run services for family members on it though. That immediately changes the scenario from "My thing is broken, I'll have a look at it later." to "Our things are broken, when will they be fixed?". There would never be any peace!

@jirehla-ab1671

7 ай бұрын

​@@ProTechShowhow qbt seting up a 6 bay nas (custom built / non hardware locked nas)

Nice video! Thanks for sharing. Been planning my own homelab! I love the point about how the enterprise servers are going to cost you in electricity. 100% excellent point.

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙂. It's often overlooked but with the price of electricity right now over here... nope!

Loved how you explained this. Pitty I did not have this kind information years ago when I started my own lab ;-)

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm sure it'll need an upgrade at some point in the future, and optimal or not I bet you've learned a lot!

8:35 "...with enough RGB to rival Las Vegas" lol.

2:14 "and by some Google searches, some of you guys actually think you live in data centers" *turns head left and sees a 22u rack full of stuff*

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

This was so useful. Subscribed!

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@lauragrolla5916

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow I really like that your recommended not getting a server for a household. So practical.

Subscribed based on this video. Great information here. Wish I had known this before I got my gear!

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad it's helpful 🙂

I just want to say this is quite a nice video for the first timers. I've been working my way up in IT running a small business and for the last year been running a cloud and multi VMs over multiple node using a hypervisor proxmox. Love it! I've been using mostly several Optiplex's with i5 and i7 CPUs however have ordered a retired Poweredge R820 has 64 threads and can be loaded upto 1.5tb of ram, thought it would make more since then having resources spread everywhere and thin. Makes it easier to move my VM's around. Plus a few of the other machines would be used for redundancy for critical VMs. Have 2 separate boxes for FreeNAS one primary and other being the paranoid backup. All with redundant storage. So I like to use my configuration for my business using nextcloud like instance with other productivity vms then use the rest of my systems for experimentation VM's. Just amazing to have such resources. However cooling is a bit prioritized and yes the fans in the 2u case and such are very loud. Why I have a dedicated room for all of the equipment. Keep up the good work!! :D cheers

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Rogue_Xenopus

2 жыл бұрын

I love proxmox. I'm a little sad it didn't get a mention here

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

I considered giving Proxmox a mention because of the love it gets on KZread, but the advice I settled on was to make your lab representative of a production business infrastructure so your experience is as relevant as possible to your job (although I did briefly mention KVM which Proxmox uses). Proxmox is popular in hobbyist circles, but in real business infrastructures very few people are using it. For some numbers: SpiceWorks' 2020 survey showed 68% using VMware, 60% using Hyper-V (some use both), and only 2% using Proxmox. At large enterprises, they basically all use VMware. That's not to say nobody uses Proxmox in production (just check STH), but I felt it was more relevant for me to cover the two that take the lion's share of the market. That said, if your company uses Proxmox, or if you don't care about using what they use; go for it!

top notch mate

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very informative, subbed.

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

New sub ;) thx 4 good presentation ;)) will be helpful

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

You can safely and easily quiet a 1U server. I made a video on this using PowerShell and ipmitool to basically re-tune the rpm tables based on temperature sensors.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting (if a little nuts) idea. Possibly the most insanely complicated way I've seen to set a fan curve! I'm not sure I'd call it safe, as the original article implies that if your script dies you could toast your system; and resorting to arbitrarily force-killing processes when the temperature rises too much is a pretty dicey way to deal with heat. I realise that you've provided a disclaimer on your video/script, but I mention it for anyone else reading the comment here because of the word "safely". I love the creativity here, and it makes for interesting content, but I'm going to stick with recommending a bigger chassis and large, lazy, low-RPM fans. 🙂

@ShinyTechThings

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow you can tune the fan curve to be more aggressive with the cooling and it should never hit the kill script making it "safer" but if there was a reason that the script stopped then yes it could overheat so if you have the space for a 2u server then yes it's designed to be quieter. The only other thing that's possible would be the rpm curve in the firmware itself but that could brick a device. I'll have to research, Dell might have some stuff documented for their rebranding resellers to tune inside the firmware.

@MrTrilbe

3 жыл бұрын

Or just go with a 4U case, anything up to about 24 3.5" hot swappable HDD's and can take 120mm fans, plenty of heatsinks about that'll fit, both passive and active, takes an standard ATX power supply, not too expensive brand new (cheaper than some consumer ATX cases that can hold less). Yes they're HUGE but I'd rather have a few relatively quiet 4U cases hidden away than a single 1U case screaming so loud the neighbours think I'm building aircraft jet engines powered by angry cats for a hobby.. now where can I find half a dozen angry cat's... asking for a friend

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrTrilbe make sure you're running that server headless, because if those cats spot a mouse...

@CrypticConsole

3 жыл бұрын

Swapping out stock fans for noctua fans can be alot easier

I’m a fan of buying an empty rack mount case from a company like Chenbro, that supports ATX and smaller motherboards. Then, I just populate it with desktop-class hardware. 4u size is my typical go-to, as it’s easier for using PCIe adapters, and typically has better cooling options. I have used 2u though, for times when I didn’t need more than a single PCIe adapter installed, or if it wasn’t running large workloads. I won’t use 1u though. Too much compromise for those (ie: can’t hold a standard ATX PSU, can be too loud with the smaller fans.) My current home lab contains a 4u Chenbro rack mount case. I put 2 ICY Dock enclosures in two of the available 5.25” drive bays. 1 of them contains a slim Blu-Ray Reader and 2 x 2.5” SSDs. The other contains 6 x 2.5” SSDs. I have the 8 x 2.5” SSDs connected to a storage adapter in pass through on ESXi, which is then used for a TrueNAS VM, which in turn presents data stores for ESXi from those SSDs. Only things I bought new were the Chenbro case and the 2 ICY Dock enclosures. Everything else was purchased used, or is re-used hardware from past PCs.

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a nice setup. Do you have the cases mounted in a rack? I knew someone who used one of those cases to mount an audio workstation alongside his mixing equipment and it worked pretty well for him.

Thanks for this. Subscribed

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Great video. I'm running 2 Raspberry Pi 4 SBCs with Ubuntu Server 64 bit (headless - no GUI). Each has a 500GB SSD, and my home connection is 1Gbps (up and down). I run my blog, OpenVPN server, private GIT repositories, media server, general LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP), file server (Samba). Have never really got in to the vitualization side of things, but might try it out.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

I am very jealous of your 1GB connection. 2Mbps is the best upload available to me!

@MnemonicCarrier

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow Ah man, that's terrible!! I was on Virgin Media before Hyperoptic. On Virgin Media I had 350Mbps down, and a mere 35Mbps up. Even my phone now gets 270Mbps down and 70Mbps up from the living room - I think they may have rolled out 5G in my area recently - hope my head doesn't start glowing green :)

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. 👽 The most frustrating part is there's a shiny new OpenReach cabinet within view of my house, but I'm not connected to that... mine's on the other end of 2 miles of copper. Neither Virgin or Hyperoptic available in the area. I might end up getting a 5G SIM just to upload these videos, but for now I just leave it running overnight.

I'm literally configuring a 24 core 48 thread 64gb server as we speak to hopefully take the place of my older 8 core 16 thread system. The new one will run all my applications, the older one is going to be primarily a DVR for my security cameras, I love having home servers lol

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds fun!

KISS: Keep it simple, stupid (as suggested in the vid). My homelab actually is a single Ryzen 3201 system with 32 GB RAM running FreeNAS. It manages all my "dump and forget" storage on bare metal with reliability (ZFS ftw). It also runs one (single) VM via BHyve. On that VM (a Linux machine), I have all my "services" dockerized which more or less can access that "dump and forget" storage (sounds crude, but is more sophisticated with access all controled via Samba/ActiveDirectory/LDAP. That whole system only consumes ~40W of power and controles almost all of my IT: Smarthome, filesharing, webservices, media, backups, cloud and many more. On top of that, I have an offsite replica-system, which mostly is offline and only comes online when asked (wake is controled via a RasPi Zero) -> Every night, my homelab syncs to that system. Perfect "low power several 100km distance" backup solution :)

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

I am a strong believer in the KISS approach!

I used a desktop to structure a business deployment. Worked great and only two failures in a decade! I think a desktop and and managed routing is key to being able to route what you do if you just pointlessly /for education only. There is many myths about power usage on servers and from about 2010 they did cut down power use. For example my daily destop runs around 350watts however my enterprise server uses around 210. While there is a difference, there are online calculators and for the most part it costs me around £560 per year for 24/7. But there is a way to make it pay, you can rent space, but then you have to have a working environment. One you don't mess about with, but that shouldn't be too hard to do. I think money is wasted when you try to cut corners and end up finding out that you need to buy something else to fit the hole. Enterprise hardware isn't expensive, but you'll have to drop and gen or two. Let's take for example a PSU. It breaks and I can buy a new or used one. Say £40. But I can buy a complete server for £60. It may have junk CPUs, but it will have Ram, and two PSUs. Plus some other board spares... So you will want to stick to a narrow array of devices or you end up with tons of spares. I ve IBM, HP, Dell and Cisco hardware. But I have for example a hp and Cisco routers which can both do the same thing. So if one breaks it's not a big deal. If I lose a server, I have others running. Or which can be deployed in minutes.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

I think the power issue is less a "server Vs desktop" thing and more an "old computer Vs new computer" thing. As you indicated, homelabs using enterprise kit don't tend to run current-gen as that would be rather expensive. They tend to run corporate cast-offs that are maybe a couple of generations behind. That's a couple of generational improvements in power efficiency that you lose out on Vs using current-gen desktop hardware. I saw a huge difference in power consumption when I put a meter on both sets of kit. £560 is more than I'd want to pay in power, but it's about whatever value you get out of it at the end of the day. My workstation pulls way more power than my lab, having more cores and a chunky GPU for video editing plus a bit of gaming. It isn't on 24/7 though.

@guywhoknows

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow power use comes from what CPUs you have and how much you load them, plus what extras you have... LAN card maybe 25w alone for add on 10g. I run mine in depent loads. So I don't have mine all on and have a low power system. But if you take old enterprise, while it is high quality. A low spec system or mid range, will do more, this would depend on how far back you go.. Say a 5500 series Xeon with 4 cores and 4 threads Vs a 8 core 65 watt recent DT CPU. If you do plan correctly for example SSD not 15k sas arrays you're going to save a lot of money. But it is a balance still id you pay £200 for each drive and have 6 that is really the power bill for two years and what you do with the CPU choices which are made. One of mine under full load only uses 175watts and is capable. We do get charged a lot for power though. I'm thinking of taking it all off grid as I have off line power facilities. I could in three hours off set a week's power bill for about £1. But it is the cost and space to set this up as it's not really what you would call a quick cheap fix. But good long term.

Hi Andrew, thank you for this great video. Working in IT for 18 months now, I have recently purchased a Ryzen 3950X and 128GB RAM to help earn certifications and practice with technologies in the DevOps, Linux space. The purpose is to learn and master the RedHat Linux / CentOS environments. With your experience, what environments and ISOs do you recommend to become an expert with RHEL?

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! I don't profess to be a Red Hat or DevOps expert, but I'd suggest starting with the basics and building up. Start by building a few Red Hat / CentOS servers, get comfortable setting up a traditional LAMP stack, etc. Then move on to clustering / load-balancing and adding high availability for your app. Then probably look at containerisation as an alternative method of deploying apps. Then once you understand those components, I'd look at using an automation platform like Chef or Puppet to automate all of the previous setup so you can deploy the same infrastructure by running code. It might be worth trying Fedora as well as it's (in my experience at least) a bit less stable. Not a good thing in production; but for learning purposes the more things that break, the more you can learn by fixing them. A lot of DevOps stuff is done in the cloud these days; so, depending on where you plan to use this knowledge it might be worth looking at cloud-native equivalents e.g. using AWS CloudFormation to deploy serverless apps?

@Halsafe

3 жыл бұрын

CentOS really aged well lol

@fromme2111

2 жыл бұрын

@@Halsafe this comment really aged well lol

Very informative

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Nice video. What services do you run from your home(lab)?

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It varies a bit depending on what I'm playing/working with. It tends to be a mixture of things I use personally as a hobby, and more professional-type bits and bobs that I want to do long-term testing with. I have access to a lab at work, so anything I'm testing for customer projects happens there rather than at home. That also helps keep the Homelab from growing out of control! For personal use I've got file syncing, media streaming, home automation, and the usual network services. I've also got some business software for R&D purposes - mostly the classic MS stack like AD, ADFS, Exchange, System Center and co. Then I've got some datacentre automation, monitoring, and backups running to keep it all in check.

Nice share, thanks. 😎👍

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Just bought 16 GB ECC RAM for 15 USD, and Xeon E5 processor for 14 USD. Then fully working Dell T310 server for 40 USD, delivered home. Expensive? After having constant problems with FreeNAS and non-ECC memory, I actually prefer old server stuff.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

I tend to look at labs as semi-disposable in nature. If the data on it is critical then ECC etc. makes sense, but then I wouldn't really consider it a lab. The kicker for old server kit is often the running costs. A few years back I was offered 2x Dell R720s for free. It seemed like a good deal until I stuck a meter on the back of one and realised they would cost me £50 a month in electricity. Suddenly those "free" servers were going to cost £3,000 over 5 years before accounting for storage and any repairs. Server kit is definitely more fun, though. I don't *need* an iDRAC when it's in the next room, but it would save me lugging a monitor over.

@diegoalejandrosarmientomun303

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow where do you live to pay so much for electricity? I only pay 80 dollars a year for my r420

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

@@diegoalejandrosarmientomun303 I live in the UK. Our electricity prices seem fairly similar to the rest of Europe as well.

@trssho91

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow my lab isn’t really a lab since it’s production services I need, but I run two r720s, a proliant 380 g7, an r320 and an Apple server.... I was very careful about power usage and did things like removing the second processor when the servers workload is light enough that it’s not needed, removing un-needed ram sticks, replaced the older fans with more efficient ones (usually from a newer server model), replacing the processors with L series Xeons, being mindful of what hard drives I’m using for what purpose, using a Mac mini for the Apple server, running anything off the poe+ since the amount of devices can add up fast and my 80+ efficiency power supply in my Cisco switch is much more efficient than all the low cost power bricks for every camera, networking device, etc. my power cost isn’t bad at all and is less that it was 10 years ago after taking the time to configure it for efficiency. I’m aware of my power usage for my rack since there is apc backups in the bottom of the rack monitoring it all, and my servers all have iDRAC or iLO devices with enterprise licenses, so I know my power draw, and the whole rack cost about $25 /mo USD to run. One thing I see people do wrong a lot is they will get a 1000 watt power supply for their server and put a 100 watt load on it thinking that it’s idling so it’s efficient. That isn’t typically true, computer power supplies are more efficient at say 60%, so I try to make sure I’m efficient in the way I using the power supply as well. I put a lot of time and effort into my power consumption. :).

i use my old desktop with an i5-4460 and 32 gigs of ram, 1060 running proxmox and a few VMs sincei got a new gaming rig a few years ago

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Good way to reuse old hardware 👍

@awezm13245

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ProTechShow yea i also had a WD My Home network drive thats 4TB NAS and removed it and put it on my current pc for games and files haha (got it on somehwat of a sale cause the place i got it was getting rid of everything since they were closing that location or something

you need more subs

@ProTechShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Each one is another reason to make a new video.

Dude. Ryzen 3900x and 64 gigs are cheap with nvme PCI Express 4 is 12 cores/24 threads and can do 5500 megs/sec I/0. There are folks who swear to need ancient slow xeons and racks of slow spinning drives on am expensive raid controller as they assume that is better. Pfsense is a free FreeBSD based drop in router with hyper-v built inside kernel out of the box with FreeBSD tools for VMware working as well. The idea of having to buy xepns to run 2 or more VMS. Storage is still king for i0

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Very true - I/O is much more likely to be a bottleneck than the CPU from what I've seen. You need a lot of mechanical drives to get performance near a single SSD, and not many people want a shelf full of spinners in their house!

@timothygibney5656

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow level1 tech channel reviews went a step further calling raid cards obsolete as ZFS and storage pools can do stuff faster as modern CPUs have I/0 subsystems separately from integer. The benefit is low latency in software raid these days with that as lsi and adaptec have large latency in requests due to PCI settings. But I will say more lanes In xeons are nice. Threadrippers are cheaper but still pricy for all but the highest builds

ESXi haven't been working with desktop NICs since 6.5.. If you have a Realtek NIC you're stuck with a v6.7 modded (drivers manually injected into the ISO) forever. Also... no Proxmox mention?

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Just tested with ESXi 8 and it boots up fine on my desktop using the onboard NIC (Intel I211 on Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite). As for Proxmox… I considered giving it a mention purely because of its popularity on KZread, but the advice I settled on was to make your lab representative of a production business infrastructure so your experience is as relevant as possible to your job (although I did briefly mention KVM which Proxmox uses). Proxmox is popular in hobbyist circles, but in real business infrastructures very few people are using it. SpiceWorks' survey taken the same year as this video showed 68% using VMware, 60% using Hyper-V (some use both), and only 2% using Proxmox. Other surveys have put Proxmox's share at fractions of a percent. At large enterprises, they basically all use VMware. That's not to say nobody uses Proxmox in production, but I felt it was more relevant for me to cover the two that take the lion's share of the market. That said, if your company uses Proxmox, or if you don't care about using what they use; go ahead and use Proxmox.

@tinchooyola

Жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow Yeah, ESXi doesn't like most consumer NICs because they're mostly realteks. Wow! that's some really nice statistics you pulled out.. I would have imagined that high percentage of VMWare share, but the Hyper-V was a complete surprise to me.. Anyway, I'm in the hobbyist circle and I don't really work on the metal part of IT, I'm a developer who happens to like a lot VM's and Networking stuff but from a hobby perspective :)

r/homelab in a nut shell. 2x r720 for pi hole.....just pi hole I bought em because they're sale and I have no use for em ATM.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

😆

@djbehnkevideo

3 жыл бұрын

Do you want to give me one? I'll put it to use I promise.

My home lab is only exists in my imagination

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

That's where they all start! 😉

@CrypticConsole

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow I suppose...

One other software for virtualization is proxmox its free and easy to use.

I generally disagree with the KISS idea for a homeLAB. KISS can be great if you wan't something stable and reliable, but not for a lab. I my opinion a lab is about challenging yourself into unmarked territory, trying all sorts of stuff and learning through the though process of troubleshooting. Currently my homelab is a 3 node proxmox cluster connected to a storage network through fibre channel - way, way more complex than I need, but I've got to play around with live migrating VM's and my current hurdle is figuring out how to upgrade and reboot my SAN setup without having to shut down the proxmox cluster while I do so. It's a lot of trial and error, figuring stuff out, but at the end I come out a lot wiser. I also have a couple of nuc's for the everyday 24/7 stuff, on those I practice KISS, but I don't consider them a lab.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

In the video I suggested you "start with a single hyper-converged box; and you scale out if your learning needs demand it". I'd say you've given a good example of where your learning needs demanded it. 🙂 If you just wanted to learn about Active Directory, what you've described would be wasteful. If you wanted to learn the basics of virtualisation and clustering then there are simpler ways - you could use nested virtualisation on a single box if it's just for an exam, but you won't get real day-to-day administration experience. If you want to learn about virtualisation, high availability, and fibre channel storage, with real administration experience... what you've described is probably the minimum you'd need. I don't think that's going against the KISS principle at all - it sounds appropriate for what you're learning. One person’s “simple” is another’s “bare minimum”. If you were running all of that just to host Plex on the other hand...

*uses gaming pc as a server* Me: It looks nice Others: Is it miniature Las Vegas on your house?

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Haha. If it makes you happy it's all good.

What example of a software would Microsoft give to R&D Students?

@ProTechShow

11 күн бұрын

You can get a whole load of stuff for dev/test use with an MSDN / Visual Studio subscription. If your school/college/uni has partnership with Microsoft you might get this for free - usually if you're studying something related to computer science. There's a complete list here: download.microsoft.com/download/1/5/4/15454442-CF17-47B9-A65D-DF84EF88511B/Visual_Studio_by_Subscription_Level.xlsx

Audio is so quiet .... I put 100% volume and silence everything around ...and still to quiet Beside audio its good video

Check out Proxmox as an alternative to ESXi

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

By all means, do. It's free, and there are lots of tutorials. A couple of people have asked why I didn't cover it. Here's my reply: I considered giving Proxmox a mention because of the love it gets on KZread, but the advice I settled on was to make your lab representative of a production business infrastructure so your experience is as relevant as possible to your job (although I did briefly mention KVM which Proxmox uses). Proxmox is popular in hobbyist circles, but in real business infrastructures barely anyone uses it. For some numbers: SpiceWorks' 2020 survey showed 68% using VMware, 60% using Hyper-V (some use both), and only 2% using Proxmox. At large enterprises, they basically all use VMware. That's not to say nobody uses Proxmox in production (just check STH), but I felt it was more relevant for me to cover the two that take the lion's share of the market. That said, if your company uses Proxmox, or if you don't care about using what they use; go for it!

@SeanAnthony

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow great point!

@ToadalSimplicity

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow thanks for this comment and great video! I’m currently in the process of planning out my homelab and intended to rely solely on proxmox. I probably still will use it for some of my VMs just to be familiar with it, but now I’ll definitely be finding some use cases to practice with VMWare and HyperV. It’ll probably help me to understand some concepts better since I’ll be able to see how things are implemented differently across the different hypervisors. (Long winded I know, but just wanted to let you know you helped me out and I sincerely appreciate it). Cheers!

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks @@ToadalSimplicity!

Actually there aren't plenty of videos explaining how to install your homelab. Every video I've seen is general advice and guides and considerations with almost no videos on possible setups.

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen quite a few but it depends on your search terms. Use this video (or one like it) to start yourself off with general advice about what components you will need to consider then search for guides on those specifc components. E.g. if you want more information on how to set up a hypervisor using VMware, Hyper-V, Proxmox, etc. then search for those terms and not "homelab". The idea is for a homelab to mirror a real production platform so you should set up the individual components using the general-purpose guides for those platforms rather than homelab-specific guides. That way the act of building your lab teaches you useful skills that you can use elsewhere.

@wackzingo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow point is there area already lots of videos like this so it offers nothing new. I have yet to see a practical video. The closest thing we've seen to that are some people showing their homelab setups but even then it's very general. I might have to make some myself because I haven't seen anyone else make them yet.

@wackzingo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow btw, I'm not saying this isn't a great video. It's got a lot of good content. Just saying I haven't seen many practical videos.

@ProTechShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@wackzingo I've seen quite a few that I felt were largely a case of "Here's how to build a homelab using this specific software on this specific hardware." but no explanation as to why those choices were made; which is why I made more of an overview to get people started rather than steering them down someone else's vision. Largely the opposite problem you're finding by the sound of things! Making your own video is a good idea. If you can't find what you're looking for then someone else is probably searching for it as well and will appreciate you filling the gap. 👍

Do you heard of proxmoxve?

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Someone else asked about that, too. Here's what I said to them: I considered giving Proxmox a mention because of the love it gets on KZread, but the advice I settled on was to make your lab representative of a production business infrastructure so your experience is as relevant as possible to your job (although I did briefly mention KVM which Proxmox uses). Proxmox is popular in hobbyist circles, but in real business infrastructures barely anyone uses it. For some numbers: SpiceWorks' 2020 survey showed 68% using VMware, 60% using Hyper-V (some use both), and only 2% using Proxmox. At large enterprises, they basically all use VMware. That's not to say nobody uses Proxmox in production (just check STH), but I felt it was more relevant for me to cover the two that take the lion's share of the market. That said, if your company uses Proxmox, or if you don't care about using what they use; go for it! It's free, and there are lots of tutorials.

@WanderTrekker

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow I own a hosting bussines and we use for our host-sys only proxmox.

I was the 666 'like', wish me luck 👿

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... wait... am I cursed now?

The point is if You're IT enthusiast and don't have a job and money, just stay away, start saving and apply a job.

@ProTechShow

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. If you've got a computer you can build a lab with it. That will give you skills that could help you land the job. Talking about what you've done in your own time can definitely make up for some lack of on-the-job experience, speaking as someone who's interviewed quite a few people.

Show me...don't tell me.