I really appreciate the work you put into this video. Thank you. I did intensive research many months ago regarding what network equipment I want to buy, but since I didn't have the finances to actually buy what I wanted, I put this purchase and research on hold for almost a year, and, well, I sort of forgot all the research I did. Right now I am trying to figure out what vendor I want to go with, what Network Operating System (or Software Defined Networking platform) I want to go with (if able to change). I want to understand the pros and cons of each one. I also want to know if I can mix vendors and if I can monitor activity interchangeably so long as one of the switches is a L3 Managed Switch. My current plan is to build my own router, run Proxmox on it, run one or more VMs, connect that to a L3 Managed Switch via a DAC, and then maybe a second switch (not sure if I want L2 or L3 and managed or unmanaged), and two or more APs.

Excellent video, great work!

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙂

I have deployed thousands of these in a place most people would be shocked to hear. I dont love them but they do get the job done.

Exactly for the video I was looking for ❤❤

@ProTechShow

Ай бұрын

Glad it was useful

Great video. Thanks a lot.

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I went down the route of older managed switch in the centre with a mix of smart managed and managed on the edge. Works a dream smart managed switch at the edge when I only need vlans or link aggregation. Also top tip a few of my edge switches got switches second hand with noise fans. Buy them low price then swap out the fans with noctua fans. Fixes the problem but also make a noisy fan near silent. Just watch the pin outs between most switches and noctua fans have +v and fan sense are reversed

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Useful tip on the fans!

@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the fan tip, definitely keeping this in mind going forward.

@needausernameJesus

5 ай бұрын

Would you recommend a book or a site where I might find some good info on managwd switches. I'm a small business that needs fast speeds and high security(the best security hopefully). Unfortunately we don't have an it guy and I have suddenly ans greatly enjoyed learning things at what some say at a fast rate. Only bc I have had good advice. I'm learning containers now and have a pihole unbound set up along with an openwrt router.. I have also got into Infiniti band and ethernet and a vpi. I also have a few proxmox servers. I still keep getting stuck on management switches. Sfp ports too with 10gigs and even going to 40 gbs. But it's not efficient and practical

Great video! The first thing I learned is that networking is expensive.

@ProTechShow

4 ай бұрын

Haha! It's true... Like most things there are more cost-effective options, and more "the sky's the limit" options.

i wondered in this video after i made some research of my own and actually bought a netgears smart switch. I started looking up how to setup RADIUS authentication, but all i was able to find, was information that you shouldn't plug your switch before router. I think that actually applies to the unmanaged switches. Did you plug yours directly to the ISP device? or did you put the switch behind the router ?

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

It would be more typical to put the switch behind the router. The public IP from your ISP would go to the router and it shares it using NAT with other devices on your network that are attached to the switch. An exception might be if you had a public subnet and wanted to assign public IPs to devices not behind your router, but this seems rather unlikely in a HomeLab scenario as most residential connections don't have a static public IP let alone a subnet.

Another fantastic video!

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

So I don't have much experience with smart managed switches, but the one thing I prefer a "traditional" managed switch for is DEBUG. The traditional managed switches have a wealth of debug options. Want to see why something is or isn't working? Debug mode!

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Always useful. The smart managed one I have here either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't I can turn it off and on again, or reset it and that's about all.

I have a Generell Question to this Switch. Im not really a Network Guy but found myself in a Place where i have to build a new Machine Network at Work. I've bought a Bunch of these Switches for a Number of Reasons. THE hot Swappable Power Supplys where definetly one of them. But i have also Read a Manual where it says "you dont have to Access every Switch individually, you can Configure them in a more Unified way" I've been playing with These Switches for a few Days now but i havent found this Feature yet. Is there a Management Software for FS Switches in Existance or was this just a Marketing Gag?

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Try searching the manual for stacking - essentially makes a bunch of switches act as one big switch with lots of ports. It sounds like what you're after?

@ammo2222

Жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow thanks for the Quick reply! Im going to build a RSTP Ring with 10 Switches in Total, so sadly way to much for Stacking. But i will read the Port Status via SNMP an visualize / alarm them on our Process Control System. So any kind of Failure or Cable fault should be identified quickly

Just to be clear, is UniFi and TP-Link stuff examples of "smart managed"?

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. I've seen both smart managed and fully managed switches from TP-Link (never used UniFi switches although I have an AP somewhere). The general rule is that smart switches will have a web UI, but no command line interface; but it can vary between manufacturers. If they sell both their website will usually categorise each unit as one or the other.

@robdavy4468

Жыл бұрын

@@ProTechShow thanks! I don't know why you didn't say the smart managed one you used and didn't like, might have been useful to provide an example of a smart managed switch. For example, I have enterprise TP-Link switches that I'm not sure if they have command line interfaces, because I've only ever used the web interfaces, and it's not obvious to me if they have CL interfaces

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

I decided against naming them because although that one product was rubbish I haven't used enough to know if it's representative of the brand as a whole. Because FS sponsored the video I also didn't want it to look like they had paid me to bad-mouth a competitor.

Keep and eye out for the like button, it likes to be pressed.... 😂 Also, I really enjoy these types of videos where you take an enterprise approach to a testing environment you can make at home. They are super informative and entertaining. All the best

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear people find them useful. 🙂

After seeing the thumbnail I was interested. Then lost interest after hearing all ports, including the SFP, are only 1g and none are 10g/sfp+. Not having at least some 2.5g just isn't good enough anymore these days. Then you got a trunk port with half a dozen VLans being limited to 1g total... Edit: it seems they agree, and their current entry-level switch (literally cheapest option) is now basically the one you got, but with 4x 10g SFP+ instead of the 1g SFP ports. That's an actual option. I really would've liked some information relevant for a homelab, like power usage with a few cables plugged in.

thanks. But this switch is not on Amazon.

@ProTechShow

2 ай бұрын

There is a link in the description to buy it directly from FS.com if you're interested in the model shown in the video

5:54 you only spent 28s to waffle about features? Now I have to google the spec sheet ^^

The FS switch are a copy cat of Cisco's Catalyst?

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

There's only so much network switches can vary from each other when they're all implementing the same standards. They're not copying Cisco model-for-model or in terms of the wider ecosystem, but their OS definitely seems to be very similar to Cisco IOS in terms of the commands you use. The same could be said for Dell and others, though. You could say they're all copying IOS, or you could say IOS has become a bit of a de facto standard.

@stonent

7 ай бұрын

Nearly all of the managed switches that I've seen use some CLI interface that is similar to Cisco. This is the first I've seen use "GigabitEthernet" like Cisco does though. Most that I've dealt with just use "Eth"

@joebakb

4 ай бұрын

The cli sure looks like it, doesn't it.

Pity it's just too deep for my cabinet.

afford...

Chinese infiltrator product made by Huawei never let that into your home

@ProTechShow

Жыл бұрын

Any evidence for that, or is it just a reaction to anything made in China? I may be wrong, but I don't believe FS gets their switches from Huawei. Even if they did my home is literally wired into Huawei equipment via underground cables. A huge amount of the telecoms infrastructure is Huawei, and they OEM loads of the modems and routers ISPs give out to customers. A switch would be a drop in the ocean. As for infiltrator products, it's not necessarily the Chinese you should worry about: www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-accounts-software,37480.html

@Hazmatguy117

9 ай бұрын

You could just read the Huawei Wikipedia entry and get scared. They’re KNOWN for sneaking in back doors and working with/for the Chinese government for espionage. It’s bad enough our own govts do it to ourselves.