Hi Matt, I used to make aluminum beer and beverage cans for a living. I haven't read all of the comments so maybe someone has already mentioned this. The body of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill, The top of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill and also has a rubberized compound sprayed onto the surface where it is sealed onto the body, The coating thickness varies, Soda pop cans have a thicker coating than beer cans. The coating can be coloured to suit the customers requirements, which is why some cans have coloured tops. The clear Tab (Ring Pull) typically does NOT have any coating, but the coloured tabs are coated. This is why the clear tabs get a higher price. Best bang for the buck would be to remove the clear tabs and melt the rest into ingots.

@preettygoood7774

2 жыл бұрын

Can the coating and rubberized compound be cheaply removed, either mechanically or chemically? If so, how so?

@markmccoy8304

2 жыл бұрын

@@preettygoood7774 I don’t know if there are any mechanical or chemical methods but melting it removes all impurities.

@geradkavanagh8240

Жыл бұрын

Saw an interesting video where a beverage can (full with lid popped) was immersed in acid for 24 hours. Came out with no metal and the liquid enclosed in the internal coating.

@pamthevan7340

Жыл бұрын

@@geradkavanagh8240 Sodium Hydroxide - AKA Drain cleaner. Believe it or not you can buy it from most DIY places and plenty of larger supermarkets too.

Here in Western Australia and in most parts of the country, we are subsidised 10c for each beverage container including aluminium cans. The bit about tabs is the most interesting for me given that remuneration would be an extra for those. Thanks Mad Matt!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Daniel I was horrified at getting only 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could get out of a kilo. I wish we were subsidised over here. I have an idea about the silver tabs turning them into more money. Once I've done a few experiments and worked out the facts and figures I'm hoping to make a video about it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated.

@geradkavanagh8240

Жыл бұрын

Same in Queensland, I used to collect, crush and bag cans to take to scrap metal dealer 200km away( helped pay petrol costs.) Once the 10cent per can and a local drop off point came into effect, I no longer have to deal with how to get 100 to 200 kg of crushed cans down to the coast and now getting 10 times amount of money in the process.

@kentklapstein9879

Жыл бұрын

In British Columbia, Canada we pay up front 10cents per can. That is paid back if you bring the empty cans back to a depot. The refund is worth far more than the metal.

Hi matt liked and subscribed to your channel. I myself collect aluminium cans .I also collect the ring pulls .but I never thought of cutting the top and bottoms of so it's clean aluminium. from now on ill be following your method. What a great video and very informative m8 👍

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, been thinking of you after watching your videos. I;m not fully up to date, but i'm getting there. Any chance you can email me when you've got time? don39t_give_up202063@aol.com

I’ve only started collecting and have been using a can opener sideways to pop the top since the top and body are made from two different alloys. I never realized there was such a market for the ring pulls! Thanks much for the info!! Nice work! Also, I think it might be Canada Dry that has a green ring pull.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Michael if they are green you'll definitely get a good price for them on Ebay. with the silver ring pulls I might have an idea how to make them different colours. When I've got everything together I'll make a video. If it works then we are all going to benefit, if it doesn't you can all have a good laugh at my expense. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

wow this video just got re recommended to me by youtube iv all ready watched it mate this video is taking off great job 👍 how are you

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea why it's taken off so much. I'll email you later.

Thank you very much for the price break down!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Mitchell thanks for the comment. I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminium. People who melt aluminium (Aluminum) ingots are mixing different types of aluminium, this makes them worth not alot of money, because they've mixed the aluminium the analysts cannot put a price on them. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill in the next few weeks, so we can see what happens to our aluminium once we drop it off at the scrap yard, where it goes, how it is separated, then smelted into different types. Some have more tin, or zinc, some have more tin and zinc. It just seems a big blank in our understanding of the whole process. If i'm able to I'm hoping to visit other types of metal mills, so it not only answers my questions but alot of peoples questions. Once again, many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

New subscriber from Tuscaloosa Alabama-USA. I own a heating and air company but I worked for Scrapyard while I was going to school and you’re right what you said to somebody Most scrap yards take different things and they classify them different.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Chad thank you for subscribing and welcome to the party, sort of anyway. The comments i've received from different parts of the world and the UK have been fascinating. Some scrap yards keep it simple then others have a vast array of categories you have to put your scrap into. I've now learnt from being on You Tube that the comments are so flipping interesting. People's knowledge, asking questions, sharing tips and tricks. I've been fascinated. Many thanks for your comment & subscribing, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Matt, VERY interesting...proves the old adage "know your market(s)"...and your options. Definitely food for thought !!! Thank you. Doug (USA)

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Doug, after getting a pitiful 5p a kg I had to see the maximum I could get. It also gives the viewer a more informed choice of whether to cut & collect or not to bother. It's a very, very long project if anyone chooses to do so. There are many people out there who want big money NOW. If they thought of themselves as Guerrilla investors. A little bit from here, there, many places it soon adds up. Then they have the option to invest in things that might bring more profit more quickly, but keep plugging away at their bread and butter. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@douglasfuqua7082

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 Matt, in reading your answer, they were my thoughts exactly. If people saw it as giving away their hard-earned cash to other people (passers-by), who worked for none of it, perhaps they would think twice about their methodology. Wisdom and KNOWLEDGE, and just a touch of patience and TIMING begets wealth, not impulse and impatience. All that you explained, I DID when I lived in Texas. Now retired and settled in Florida, I will ONCE AGAIN practice what you recommend...why settle for pennies (pence), when one can garner REAL money, with but a little time and patience. LOVE your site...keep it coming... I'm all ears. Great work !!! Doug, Florida, USA

What a breath of fresh Air to watch your video. Thank You, God Bless and stay safe! Now I need to work it all out in U.S. and find where I can sell all of the parts. Sure makes me appreciate my Brothers (and Sisters) in other Countries. Your Wonderful! Thanks!

Just found this video 3 years after it was posted and am amazed. Very educational and the ring pulls, well I checked on ebay and was pleasantly surprised.

@buentaste

5 ай бұрын

Better late than never 😊

Thanks for the info Matt, i am considering going into the metal recycling business, and obviously found the video very interesting and informative...

@madmattsbucketlist385

2 жыл бұрын

Stephen, I've been looking for your comment for ages. If you're considering getting into the recycling business, maybe start off small as a hobby scrapper. If you do it full time, dependant upon which country you are in, you will need a permit, plus if it is ewaste I think you need a permit for that as well. Copper and brass are the 2 main metals everybody are after, but even a tonne of steel will get you £5-600 per day. Find a local scrapyard or if you are lucky enough to have more than one near you, just call into their office and ask for their price list of their metals. Each day the prices change but it will give you a good idea of what everything is worth. If you decide to give it a go, I wish you all the very best. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@josephabonyi1174

Жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen, it's nice seeing your comment on Matt video, I am also going into recycling in Nigeria, I have been into it for over 10years, working for a firm , wish you all the best , and will want to know your progress report.

Great video. I like your style 👍🏽

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Cryptopolis many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Great idea!!! I am a teacher that has mostly low income students. If we work collectively like ants, this a great idea to help pay for our freshman class trip. Thank you for sharing

@madmattsbucketlist385

6 ай бұрын

Hi William, get them working like ants on the cans, but also don't forget ANY METAL has a price when weighed. Get them to pick up any metal, ask their neighbours for metal. Also any old electronics. Copper in the cables, brass in the plugs. If someone is having their bathroom renovated, take the taps off the bath and sink, the old shower is brass as well. Gas boilers. Any metal, just get them bringing it in and as I said any electronics. I'd be really interested how you get on. Hope you'll let me know. Once my health gets a little better I'll record a video on how much I got paid for my cans. Hopefully it won't be too long. I'd love you to stay in contact and keep me updated. Say Hi to all your pupils who are involved, from me. Best wishes Matt. P.S. can you let me know what part of the world you are based as well pleased. Many thanks.

That was very interesting... I am going to try it out since I am OCD also...make it a hobby!! Thanks for the breakdown...

Dear Matt - obviously you let yr mind run along wherever it likes to go. Kudos, that is a rare talent and so rare as to be priceless. Thank you very much for being willing to share that attitude. Great things can come out of garages. Way I see it you just gave base knowledge to a lot of people who maybe could use it well.Thank you for that also. Opened My eyes. Never look at a pull-tab the same again :) By the way, your humble and very clear presentation is a pleasure to hear. Enjoyed the clip. Will look for others on account of I like yr approach to life,er, philosophy

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Alan, I do let my mind run wherever it wants to go. I'm the sort of person that if I haven't got the full answer I have to research and ask questions until I get the full answer. Unlike other scrappers who just quickly take things apart, I like to take things apart but try and work out how they work. I'm not that bothered about the financial gain, it's more the knowledge. Also breaking things down as I did in this video. To some people it may be boring, exhaustive treatment of what i am talking about, but as you said, I made the video just to show people how to maximise their profit, if they have the patience. In life, i'm very laid back. I learnt many, many years ago to adopt my way of thinking. it gives a person a happier life not getting stressed or worked up about anything. If problems arise I look at it as a puzzle and think there's always an answer, which there is. As regards being humble, at the end of the day, we all have 2 legs, 2 arms, eat and drink the same, go to toilet the same, so just accept things for what they are. Makes life far easier. Saying that I did get a little wound up in one of my latest videos, Copper, Do we Buy, Hold or Sell. Goodness I feel as if I've written an essay or book to you. Alan many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Thanks for the helpful information, sir!! 👍😎

@madmattsbucketlist385

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Very interesting, thank you!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

After receiving just 5p a kg, I had to see how much you could possibly get. It gives people a more informed choice now. Definitely a long term project to get high a financial return. Good thing about aluminium, it doesn't rust. Many thanks for your comment. Matt.

Very interesting, thanks for the info.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Stay safe. Matt

Hi! Thank you for the info, it brings back something I never could figure out in my past life of (SCRAPPING). Some people bing so meticulously in dealing with their collection and separation of there aluminum cans. Thank you for answering, aged old question.

Thank you sir. I learned alot, thank you for sharing it with us. God bless you and yours.

@madmattsbucketlist385

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. It was one of my early videos and yes i did talk alot. In all my videos I talk alot. KZread say to keep a video to 10 minutes. That's impossible for me as not only do I talk alot but I like to know the history of metals where and how things came about. I've got no engineering or mechanical experience and it fascinates me how these things are put together and work. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Bloody Well Done. I moved bales of paper to a recycler Made a friend in Chicago ,Dared me to Scrap for 6 months. Best bet did it for 7 years might start back up. Learning all the time in Buisneeses. Good luck 👍. Keep.up.the Good Work.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Robert obviously just reading your second comment now. If you want me to try anything or ask questions at these mills 'IF' they give me access, just drop me a comment or email. Prices are on the up. I think I did a video about copper prices. I think it was something like Copper to we Buy, Hold or Sell. That will explain the surge in prices expected. Aluminium is also one to watch out for. I believe the reason for the slow increase in price is that manufacturers are using it instead of more expensive metals. I'll hopefully find out more when I visit the mills. Best wishes, Matt.

Where I live, there’s a 5 cent deposit on aluminum cans and glass and plastic bottles, when you purchase beer, soda, etc. When you return your cans and bottles to the redemption center, you get your 5 cents back. So here, you can collect bottles and cans and turn them in for 5 cents each. But we do remove the ring pulls on cans for aluminum scrapping.

very good and I appreciate the insight to a different way stored assets And good luck with your KZread channel

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

As regards assets. Try taking a look at one of my latest video. I think it is called Sold Copper or Scrap metal - what do we invest our money in? It doesn't take much money to start and gives you a profit within 2-3 years. Hope that proves of use as well. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Thank you for your content! Best wishes!

that's a lot of research👌

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Shaukath, after jus getting a pitiful 5p a kg my overly curious mind just had to delve a bit deeper, to see exactly how much I could possibly get for a kg of aluminium cans. It's all interesting at the end of the day. It also gives viewers a more informed choice of whether they want to collect, or not, cans. Thanks for your comment. Much appreciated.

Good explanation of everything. Thank you very much for that. Is the prices been changed since that video?🙂

Good man Matt, keep at it!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Michael after 5p a kg I just had to know how much I really could get. I've had alot of ideas from subscribers with some ideas to increase the value a little more. I will video the attempts. If they work then everybody benefits, if they don't then you can all have a laugh at my expense. What I love now that i've got into You Tube a bit more are the comments. People sharing their ideas, knowledge, tips and tricks as well as what is happening in their part of the world, it's fascinating. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@michaelcomerford2413

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 I will get back to you on that, we're currently getting £600 tonne we just crush the whole cans into a block 'biscuits' and pallet up a tonne. Will get back to you. Take care!

@michaelcomerford2413

3 жыл бұрын

Matt, we can pay 25p Kg

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcomerford2413 25p a kg. That's 5 times the price I get!!! I haven't visited the local scrapyard for prices since before Christmas. I know there's been alot of price changes. I read a couple of articles recently that aluminium is going up in price, mainly because the manufacturers of items are looking for cheaper alternatives to gold and silver when making e-components. I've got some more research to do, but it looks as if it is the quiet metal to keep our eye on for prices. Had quite a few subscribers give ideas how to try and get more money out of a kg. I'll video a couple of the ideas, check with my local scrapyard that they would accept it as clean aluminium and if they do everybody benefits. They can either choose to make the effort or not bother. I'm restricted quite a bit where I live as we only have 1 scrapyard. Give credit where it's due, they are very fair with their prices and I haven't had any reason to look elsewhere yet. The other reason I don't want to go to another scrapyard is, they are all between a 50 and 70 miles trip, which is alot of petrol. Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. I'm sure we'll speak again. Matt.

@michaelcomerford2413

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 Okay Matt, yes we will talk again in more depth! Take care.

Hi Matt enjoyed the vid I new the ring pulls are pure Ali but did not know about tops and bottoms so will pointed out I will be saving them from now on it’s all about volume with this one thanks for your help and more vids please keep well and safe cheers

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Seamus, with Aluminium cans, it is definitely a long term project, however you collect them and the tops. I just put the cut parts in compost bags when they are full, tape them and store them. I see it as making a deposit in a bank account, knowing it is gradually gathering weight and price. Thanks for your comment. Much appreciated.

When I saw "aluminium" I knew it would be from a European viewpoint; and then I heard your speech and I knew. :) Very cool. Here in the States, you need a large box truck full of cans (thousands) to make it worth even taking it to the collection site. I just give my empties to a neighbor who doesn't mind doing all that work.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

My Welsh accent gave it away. I hope my accent isn't too strong. I've had many people from all over the world comment or email. Parts of Australia have a subsidy from the Government to make it worth their while. Canada runs the same deposit scheme as some states in the U.S. We get a pitiful 5p per kg. What originally started out as a video, how to get the most from a kg of soda cans, has now taken quite a big leap. I don't know whether you have seen people making Aluminum (I hope I spelt that the correct North American way) ingots? I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminum. As Aluminum is an alloy they could, for example, add more tin and zinc to one mix, maybe more tin less zinc to another. People who melt these ingots are using different types of Aluminum making it difficult for analysts to even put a price on them, they probably are almost worthless. After lockdown has finished here in Wales (England, Scotland and Northern Ireland all have their separate rules for lockdown) I am hoping to visit an Aluminum Mill where I will hopefully be allowed to video and interview one of the Directors. There seems to be a big blank in peoples knowledge of what happens to the scrap after you drop it off at the yard and where it goes, what happens to it, how do they separate the materials and how do they resmelt it. Fingers crossed they will allow me in and not only will I get my answers but hopefully whoever watches the video will get their questions answered. I've written an essay, almost a book in response to your comment...lol. Many thanks for your comment, I appreciate it very much. Stay safe. Matt.

T'was very interesting. Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm curious if the pulltabs are more valuable if I were to anodize them (ie: coloured by me, at home, rather than the manufacturer). Hmmm...

I think I will now be drinking Stella, as I got LOADS of Tops, bottoms, Ringpull's, not forgetting Shard's & crushed cans of Kronenberg beer can's all bagged up. I at least realised the differences between Top's n Bottom's etc. many thank's for the heads up, Matt. P/S. I was recommended to use a CERAMIC Cruicable Instead of the normal one. No doubt I will see. Thanks again. You're quite an Inspiration!👍

Great channel iv subbed ,keep up the good work

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steven much appreciated. Actually got round to making my first video in 2-3 months. Had another mini stroke a few days before, hopefully I make sense in it and don't come across as too out of it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Matt.

Keep it up, nice video, thanks :)

Great vid Matt natural KZreadr looks like your enjoying it

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Alot of people have said i'm a natural in front of the camera. Perhaps it was my classical music training and we were filmed so much playing in concerts, i don't know, or i'm naturally gregarious and that comes across?

Very interesting and useful.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andreas. Watch out in the coming months when hopefully i will be visiting different Metal Mills for them to explain the full process of what happens to our scrap when we drop it off at the scrapyard, where it goes, how it is sorted and how they resmelt it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated, Stay safe. Matt.

Good information! Thanks.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph many thanks for taking the time to watch the video and comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Great information. Thank You

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

This was interesting. Would not have thought about this like this!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Christian, apologies for not replying sooner, your comment didn't register on my bell icon. After receiving a pitiful 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could possibly get per kg. Yes it's a very, very long term project, just think of it as if you are watching a sports match or film and rather than just sitting there, try cutting and collecting while you are watching the TV. Pennies/cents will soon turn into Pounds/Dollars. At least people can make a more informed choice now. I'm working on a video about the different types of Aluminium (Aluminum), at the moment and Aluminium ingots. Fascinating but I think the people who make these ingots are going to be in for a bit of a surprise how little their ingots are worth. Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@christianernestheydorn1743

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 Thanks for the reply. I had an idea and I think this might be something that you could easily accomplish (I might be able to do it. I'm pretty book smart, but need to practice my practical skills). Since cans have a normal size (not monster cans), you could make something like a big paper cutter that could cut off the top and bottom of the can with one fell swoop. And I have seen manual and electric shredders which will save time too. This would save a lot of time if you have a ton of cans, but it seems like it is a good way for teens to make money. I guess you could do it while watching TV or if you are disabled or something like that. There was one junk metal guy that says that he does not buy ingots bc he doesn't have the equipment to test it (and he doesn't want to buy the equipment to test it). So unless somebody wants to use the ingots for casting or display, I agree that aluminum ingots wouldn't be very valuable. I recently found out about pure aluminum (cans) vs aluminum from cars and other items (mixed w/ other elements to make them stronger). Won't take your thunder, but it will be fun to watch. Continue to make these great videos sir, I can't wait to watch them and soon will be making my own! Have a great one!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianernestheydorn1743 You must be a mind reader. I looked into Aluminium (Aluminum) and there are so many different types. There are 2 categories cast and wrought, then there are 9 categories under each heading. No. 6 isn't used, so I don't know why they include that. Some have copper, magnesium etc. The ingots are worthless as people are mixing different types of aluminium together so the re-smelting mills don't know the content. I'll be doing a couple more videos about aluminium and cans just to clarify everybody's questions and do a couple of experiments to see if they work. One subscriber had a 150 paper shredder and the machine blitzed a whole can in one go!!! My current dilemma is do I monetise my channel or not, I just uploaded the video now. So many people think they are going to make thousands of pounds/dollars but the amount of adverts are a little too much for me. If you have time to check it out and listen to my reasoning, I'd be interested to hear your view on it. Great to hear from you again. Stay safe as always. Mat

@christianernestheydorn1743

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 I would say that I am psychic, but I am more psychotic since I am a nurse. We are all a bit "mad" as you would say. And I love that the Brits say Aluminium and we say Aluminum bc apparently the guy that found it couldn't figure out how to he wanted to spell it. If only it were that way when I was taking spelling tests: choose the version of the word I liked best! Anyway, I digress. Thank you for educating me on all the types of Aluminum. That is amazing, but not really surprising since it is such a versatile metal. I want to cast a life size Dr. Who in aluminum bronze. I think that will be fun. Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker will be great! But I have to become a pharmacist first! One more board and then they will give me a license to give out drugs, sanctioned by the State of Arizona (Next to Cali on the border of Mexico for easy reference for you sir). I think it would be awesome if you monetize your channel. I don't know how hard it is to make and edit youtube videos (I should say I don't know how much time it takes to make and edit). But if you feel the advertisements would take away from you, then do it w/o monetizing. I support you either way M! I just love the idea of people getting paid for doing things they love doing!

Exemplary analysis my friend. just a thought if I may, where I live on the west coast of The United States, small companies that used to buy aluminum have gone out of business. This however does not affect the larger regional recycling companies. Aluminum still has value. Because local communities offer no way to sell ones aluminum cans, it occurs an entrepreneur could buy quantity of cans from locals, perhaps even paying a small bit more, 6 or 7 pence for example, and process the cans with a small crew and actually realize an economic profit. fun to think about anyways. I look forward to more of your videos. Thank you.

You haven't factored in your labor. That in itself will land you in the poor house. :

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I understand where you are coming from. Perhaps look at it another way, if you were to watch a football match or film, you could sort your cans out while you're watching the TV, or you could watch the TV and not do anything resulting in no money at all. As you say if you factor in the labour costs and you were doing this day in day out then yes you would end up not only in the poor house but on the streets. Scrapping is a full time job for quite alot of people, but to me it's just a hobby. I enjoy taking things apart trying to work out how they work. I do it more for the enjoyment than financial gain. Many thanks for another interesting comment. Matt.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Critical Look. I just released a new video. Copper Do we Buy, Sell or Hold. Please be aware I had another mini stroke not many days before recording, that's why I'm a bit out of it in the video, plus I've got to take one more tablet to try and control my symptoms so it makes me a bit spaced out. I'd be interested in your views, if you watch it from start to finish. I mention it to you as your comments have made me think alot and you are honest and straight to the point with your comments which I like.. Best wishes, Matt.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Hello again. I recently found out alot of information regarding aluminium (Aluminum). I'm hoping after this lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill and maybe other metal mills as time goes by. With the different types of Aluminium if they are melted into an ingot that puts a big question mark over how much they are worth as different types of aluminium have been used to make that ingot. Fingers crossed one of these mills will allow me in and we can all have the answers we have been looking for, plus an even more insightful look into the understanding of this metal. Hope you are safe and well. Missing your Critical Look on my latest Copper videos!!! Speak soon. Matt.

@MGZig

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@MGZig Thank you. Stay safe. Matt.

I sighed with you Matt when you said "5 pence per kilo". But that is some clever working out with the top and bottom of the cans. I never thought of that.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Cycle Scrapping thanks for your comment, Ian pointed out my mistake with my maths, but as you will see in the next video I've made sure that has been corrected

Thank you for the tips.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Daniel, i've had alot of ideas from subscribers how to try and get more money from cans. Once I get everything together I will make videos about their suggestions. It's all good fun at the end of the day. If it helps people make money all the better. If I make a complete hash of it, you can have a laugh at my expense. Many thanks for your comment, very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Very interesting,be well,from Montreal Canada.

BOOM I'm your 100th subscriber

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome Damon no.100!!! Woo hoo!!! Some channels have giveaways for reaching certain number of subscribers, unfortunately, I don't, as I'm skint. That's why I cut aluminium cans...lol. Thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated.

Very good. Never thought about doing that. Never thought pull tabs would sell on eBay.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently people who knit, crotchet, make jewellery use them. A subscriber in Switzerland said he see's many a lady wearing earrings made from them. The coloured tabs are where the money is. I've had alot of ideas given to me by subscribers that I will try. If they work then that'll be great for everybody. If they don't work then everybody can have a good laugh at my expense. It's all good fun at the end of the day. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

My 150 sheet paper shredder will finally be worth buying I had it for a year and not used it to much Edit I had an empty can I put it in the shredder it shred the thicc part to

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

That's one heck of a powerful machine you've got there. One subscriber suggested I soak the cans in Acetone, use wire wool to get the remaining paint off and the whole can would be clean ally. I haven't looked into the chemical properties of Acetone yet. Powdered Citric Acid is amazing stuff. I used it to get all the rust off old vintage tools when I was renovating them. I could use that and use wire wool to get the remainder of the paint off. What started as a video that I originally made because I got a pitiful 5p kg and I wanted to see the maximum I could get out of kg of cans, has turned out to be fascinating. USA different states pay different amounts per can, the same in Canada, Australia they have some sort of subsidy in place, while the UK we get a pitiful amount. Many thanks for your comment. I'll be looking up the price of 150 sheet paper shredders now..lol. Your feed back is much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt,

@ramblingman8992

3 жыл бұрын

Ali cans have a food safe lining, so it is not just the paint that is the issue.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramblingman8992 I'm going to try an experiment soon that should take the ink and food safe lining off at the same time. I'll also take the can down the yard and see what they class the top and bottom as and then the middle section. I'm expecting some kind of rolled ally for the middle. We'll see what they say. I'll make a video once I've got it sorted and it'll be interesting to see what they say. Thanks again for your comment. Stay safe. Matt.

New subscriber! Thanks for the brain work! Big hello from Arkansas!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Linda welcome. Thank you very much for your comment and subscribing all the way from Arkansas. I am one of those people that if i'm not happy with an answer I keep on delving and researching until I finally get the full answer. Yes I talk alot and it ends up with my videos being longer but hopefully people can make a more informed choice about whether they choose to scrap something or not. Many thanks again for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@lindafletcher6427

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 my father was a scrapper. The towns around affectionately called him Junk Jack. He passed in 2010. Looking forward to watching your videos.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@lindafletcher6427 That's a lovely memory to have. I had better warn you that my videos You are loved, Don't give up and Rip Grandma Stone The song To Where You Are might make you emotional and bring back memories. Junk Jack, I love that. Many thanks Linda. Matt.

in the U.S. we get .10/can deposit to return it. which equals $6.70 / 67 cans or per kg. you can however remove the tabs and sell those separately for the ebay money. you can also theoretically remove the tops and the bottoms as the automatic returns just scan the bar code which is on the outside of the can. so, you would get the money for the tabs, the metal from the tops and the bottoms and still the .10/can deposit.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Bob, it's fascinating how every country works it differently. Both the US and Canada are subsidised. They did try one of those scanners in a supermarket in the UK years ago, but unfortunately some people found a way round of getting multiple amounts for a can so they stopped it. Really appreciate your comment, fascinating.

@jeffflanagan2814

Жыл бұрын

Where?

Absolutely fascinating! I actually checked up on ebay and darn if the pull tabs aren't there at the kind of prices you mentioned. Who'd a thought...

Wow. Great info. Digging cans out of the trash can

Cool video man, I dunno if the breakdown around here is as lucrative, but you've sure got me intrigued to find out.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

After receiving just 5p a kg I had to see if I could make more money. My OCD kicked in, but I was shocked myself. It's more of a long term investment if you were to cut & collect. However with the ring pulls and the different colours that's just easy money for nothing. I'd be interested to see if it turns out to make the same, more or less money in your area. Thanks for your comment.

Thanks for the price break down. Always wondered what the price would be across the pond. In the USA some states strongly request that you recycle certain used up material, ie; metal cans, cardboard, plastic, etc. In Iowa, we pay .05 cents per container of pop, beer, etc. We can buy boxes and bags at our redemption centers, for sorting the empty metal cans/ plastic bottles. Bags are marked for 240 cans, earns you $12 dollars for the bag. About 90 1/2 litre bottles will fit in the bag, and about 45 full size litre bottles will fit. i read that the tops are worth more money, cause they are all dense metal. i have thought about melting down the metal cans that i don't get enough money for, then sell it to a local business who uses the metal for their end product. Have you thought about melting down the metal cans ?

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Ron I've had many subscribers from the U.S. saying about deposits on cans, but not in so much depth and detail. Thank you, that has brought real clarity. With melting down the cans or any metal into ingots, I would say, wait until I film a video that I am trying to get permission for at the moment. I recently found out there are many different types of Aluminium (Aluminum). when people melt them into ingots they are mixing these different types of Aluminium. This makes them worth not alot of money. I am hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill soon, (if they allow me in) and I would like to fill in the big blank from what happens to our scrap when it is dropped off at the yard, where does it go, how is it separated, and remelted into the final product. Some Aluminium could have more tin content or zinc or both. If they allow me in to video and interview, that will answer my questions and many peoples questions as well. I would like to visit other metal mills as well to understand the process there. Fingers crossed they'll allow me to interview them. Many thanks for your highly informative comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Fantastic video luv more knowledge, thank ya kindly :-)

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for watching and commenting, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Good information

Man very useful , and I don't mind the talking I like to listen, for a small channel thank you it was informative.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Judah thank you. After I received just 5p a kg (2.2lbs) I just had to find out exactly the maximum I could get. I may talk too much or repeat myself but I find with other channels they talk too quickly and you can't take in all the information. I'm doing an experiment today to see if I can get even more money from a can by getting the ink off. The top and bottom are different Aluminium (Aluminum) to the body of the can. I'll then take it down my scrapyard and see what prices they would give me for both types of Aluminium. I don't know whether you've watched the video. I think it's called Why DIY Aluminium Ingots are worthless. I did alot of research into aluminium and was surprised how complicated it all is. Hopefully you'll find it informative. Many thanks for your comment and taking the time to watch the video, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Wow ty. Ima try that at scrapyard.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Helen, it's certainly a long term project. I have had other subscribers give me suggestions to make a little bit more per can, ultimately per kg (2.2lbs). I'll hopefully make a video in the next few weeks. If you are able to get the coloured ring pulls, that's the largest, easiest and quickest way to make easy money. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Thats for the reply Matt, and your willingness for more info later. I hit reply to your note, but got directed back here, so if there are other readers, this follow up note might not make entire sense. In your note, I think you meant to state that the value of a pound was $1.40, but it showed the British pound symbal that I do not have on my KB. As for shreds, if you cut the 'middle' section once, after separating it from the top and bottom, then straighten it out, they would 'stack' up. You might find a container the right shape and size, or build one, and then keep a weight on them. I look forward to your additional info. Again, thanks jim Also, do they really spell aluminium that way in GB ? I have always noticed how Brits pronounce it different from us.

Yes very interesting!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

C Hugh999, thanks for your comment. After receiving just 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could possibly turn a kg of cans into. I traded some in years ago and got £1.50 a kg. I felt a right fool when I looked at my receipt, 5p a kg!!! I have a very curious mind and have to go in depth with things. The same with my video, How much cable to make 1kg of bright wire no.1 copper. If people wish to cut and collect it's definitely a long term project, but hopefully people can make a more informed choice now. Best wishes, Matt.

when we built our forge we took the few bags of cans we had and melted them down into ingots, we had about 56 cans to a 14 ounce ingot of clean aluminum after scraping all the slag away. but we also have a mill and other tools so it's cheaper still since we can use those ingots to machine parts out of!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I released a video a couple of days ago why Aluminium/Aluminum Ingots are worthless. If you have time maybe check it out. I was surprised by some of the things that came out of my research. Thanks. Matt.

@jamesnoord3034

Жыл бұрын

that is my plan for my cans and other aluminum scrap

I watched one video of melting down cans, now here I am..... Great video, thank you!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome to the party!!! I will be releasing another video about aluminium (Aluminum) in the next couple of weeks. I'll be talking about all the different types of aluminium plus melting ingots. People think the ingots are worth alot of money but in my video I'll explain why they aren't. I've got to get everything together first before I make the video. I was surprised. I think it'll sur[rise alot of people as well. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I just released a video why melting aluminum/aluminium ingots are worthless. If you've got time maybe check it out. A number of things surprised me when researching the video. Matt.

@Nenezilla

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 -- will do thank you! So sad, people want to make some extra money, yet doesn't seem feasable for just the average joe.

Thank you for taking the time So NOW I KNOW!!! I always wondered why different organizations always ask for schools, churches, clubs to save and turn in their Pull tabs from soda, and drink aluminum cans, I had no idea, I drink Monster Energy drinks all the time I have in the past kept an old coffee can and saved pull tabs, and I have used old pull tabs for an emergency Washer for a screw or bolt doing a home repair, and there are tons of videos about ways to use Pull tabs from fishing lures, to hanging pictures in your house, but the different colored ones being worth more money!!!!! WOW, SO my monster energy drinks have the black, orange, and green, and I am going to be dropping collection containers off at every location which will allow me to in order to try to get donated pull tabs and save up my collection then I will just drive my circuit around town and dump them all into a larger container to be sorted by size, color and such at a later time, preferably when I have a few little helpers to help me once I make sure they understand to be careful and I have small enough gloves for them to use to handle safely in order to make sure that some random tab doesn't have a sharp piece of can still attached, I wouldn't want any accidental injuries or Grandma will be after me for allowing the little helpers to get a boo boo lol. Thanks for taking the time to break this down I definitely enjoyed it. www.ebay.com/b/Colored-Soda-Tabs/3918/bn_7023251186 Another reason people may buy them are that some clubs, or groups especially for kids have prizes for the family or kid who donates the most and in America we have this new evolutionary female known as a "Karen" and she is the "May I speak to the Manager, my kid must win everything, coach why doesn't my jimmy get to start as pitcher (even though Jimmy can't get it over the plate) kind of lady" so they will buy pop tabs to turn in for their child in order for said child to feel special (more like MOM aka Karen) can feel special and accomplished for turning in the most!

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

You've got it off to a tee!!! I love how you say about Karen!!! There are so many Karen's the world over. The coloured pull rings, people use them in knitting, crotchet, jewellery, one subscriber said in Switzerland he's seen many women wearing them as earrings. The silver ones are just your bread and butter. I have a couple of ideas from subscribers how to possibly cover them in paint. I'll make a video about it and if it works then everybody can benefit. It's easy money at the end of the day, just from coloured pull rings. Go for it. Sounds as if you have a really good plan, that should definitely work. When selling obviously have a look when you list them if the colours are in supply anywhere else. If there is nobody selling the colours you are put your prices up. Supply and demand as they say. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, both much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

You have kept my total attention for the hole video.. dude your are a great teacher .. love this video 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

@jonglewongle3438

3 жыл бұрын

Great teacher ? You cannot be serious. The bases and tops of the cans are exactly the same material constituency as the bodies of the cans. The only difference being that the bases and tops are more compacted which only means that such comprises more weight and volume, but you get paid the same price for the same weight of the very same material. And yet this dunderhead wants you to cut it all up with scissors. What sort of pupil are you ?

@streetcopper1151

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonglewongle3438 🤣.. have a great day 🤣

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonglewongle3438 You get paid different prices in the UK for cans. The ink on the can makes it worthless, that is how the system works in the UK and that is why I cut it up, not being a dunder head, just trying to use my head to get the maximum price for the cans I collect. I could try getting the ink off the can, Just one, take it down the scrapyard and it would be interesting if they gave me clean aluminium (aluminum) price for the whole can. Every country is different with their prices. USA and Canada have their deposit system. Australia get a subsidy. Here in the UK we get nothing. Hope that clarifies the prices and system for you here in the UK.

@michaelrowan2604

Жыл бұрын

@jonglewongle3438, The cans have a plastic lining inside creating quite a bit of slag (waste)when melted, lowering the value of the metal. You should also try to be a much nicer person when addressing people, possibly you had too meany Stella's?

Great video price in the us is somewhat different up to $0.68 to $0.31 usd per pound of weight a whole can useparated

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Chris, after receiving a pitiful 5p per kg, I had to see how much I could possibly get from a kg of cans. I just scrap for a hobby. I go through times where I might cut and collect a 1000 cans then not touch any for months. If anybody decides to do it, they can now make a more informed choice. However you look at it, if you decide to cut and collect it's a long term project. However in these times of survival any money is better than none. Many thanks for your comment. Thanks for letting me know.

@mbburry4759

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 unless you just enjoy cutting them up like that - you might want to see if theres a better place to sell to. Aluminum is essentially a world wide price and it is around 1$ usd per lb at the time (with scrappers at a good yard getting 3/4 to 2/3 of market price)

Thank you for such a great video, new friend here, I appreciate the information

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

OMG Rose I didn't expect you to watch a video so soon. With you moving that'll give me time to catch up on alot of your videos. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Hello 👋 LOVE THIS VIDEO 👍👍❤️

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Ha..ha.. love your comment. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, I really appreciate it. Stay safe. Matt.

Good job

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Janet. I found out last week there are many types of aluminium (Aluminum) and people who melt them into ingots are mixing different types of Aluminium so it is hard to put a price on them. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill after lockdown so we can understand the whole process of where the Aluminium goes when it is taken from the scrapyard, where it ends up, how they separate it and how they remelt it into different types. I would like to visit other metal mills as well. It just seems a big blank in our understanding of the process. Hopefully I can make an in depth video and everybody will then understand the full process. I feel like i've written an essay in response...lol. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

The scrapyard i use in my part of the UK pays the same per kilo for ali cans as it does for cast or extruded. In other words, they pay the same top price regardless. It is always worth calling a few yards to check.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky with my yard they pay different prices for different aluminium. Clean, extruded etc. I know some people just get one flat rate. Also I only have one scrapyard in my area and they are fair and give good prices so I am lucky. As you say, in other areas it is best to shop around for the best prices. Thanks for your comment.

@philldownes8685

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 no your not lucky, the price is normally the same . you dont need to go cutting them up. the price is already the same as other aliminum. . 60 p per kilo ... at 5p you just got ripped to bits..

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@philldownes8685 Phill I'll reply fully in one of your other comments. Thanks. Matt.

Very informative

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Dragon maker, thank you. I released a video about why DIY aluminium ingots are worthless, recently. After researching Aluminium it was really interesting what you think is a straight forward metal is far from being so. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

We are lucky in Australia we have collection areas at supermarket outlets. We return our bottles and cans through a chute... it automatically totals how many we put through. It prints out a voucher with the money total received. We get 10 cents for EACH can or bottle. The voucher is cashed in at the supermarket. We can choose to take the money or have it deducted from our groceries.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Janet they tried that in the UK many years ago, they didn't pay as much as 10 cents. Unfortunately they either didn't build the machine properly where they did a trial run, but as usual a minority spoilt it for the majority. Somehow they found a way of cutting the cans and got more from one can than they should have. Needless to say the trial ended. It was such a shame as alot of people used it and they soon built up a fair amount that they put towards their Christmas shopping. The money was put on their supermarket loyalty card so they could cash it in anytime. A good idea but as I said the minority spoilt it for the majority. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Nice interesting 👌

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Gary, it was my OCD kicking in. I'm one of those people that just has to look and delve a bit further. Hopefully it gives people a better understanding of how to make more cash. Speak soon.

While I'm more interested in melting and recasting than selling the metal, WOW!, am I impressed by the details here, and in the comments.

Nice video

Slight problem - if you have a tonne of cans and get a certain price that's one thing but if you start cutting the cans into variably priced parts then you can't price the shred and tops and ringpulls into seperate tonnes as you only had the one tonne to start with , so in creating 1 tonne of shred and 1 tonne of top/bottoms and 1 tonne of ringpulls how many cans in total do you need ? ------loaves and fishes bauy and I cannot be arsed to work it out ...............................but I did learn something so cheers for that.

I enjoyed your video 👍 New Subscriber

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Toney, thanks for your comment. Your are right in one of your videos, if people just look, there are things all around them that they can make money from. I call it Gorrilla Investing. A little here, a little there and it all adds up. I think with alot of people they expect, or want lots of money NOW. If they don't get that then they give up and end up with nothing, rather than quietly plugging away, being patient. I'm all subbed, I'm sure we'll speak again. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

Matt. Micro scrapping at its best, however didn’t follow your math on the ring pull, you get approx £3.20 per thousand or .03p each, if you have 67 it’s 2p. Not 52p. or have got it wrong.

Some 45 years ago my grandmother used to have us collect the ring pulls which she then sent to a charity. That was in the day when they came all the way off.

i would never consider working on a can so much. wow. why do you spend the time to shred up the can? we're getting 50c per pound (about $1.10 per kg) in texas

Hey Matt how are you today I hope your well buddy. Crazy 5p for killo of cans. Watch your fingers with those sisers lol 😂 Hello good to see you lol.😂 So more money to break it down right get that. Yeah I think I have learned somthing today lol. But I still think I will stick to motors. Wee cans lol 😂😂 Matt you done it you made a great video mate. But your right about the stella cans.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Oh Ali I look forward to your comments so much. Actually they do bring a smile to my face. Cheers buddy.

Thanks, for sharing. I do hear sort of bob ross talking. Try watching bob ross painting on tv or video, you’ll be surprise. Whenever I watch his show my eyes catches on his colorful paints, the bristles he use, the colors forming on the canvas but for some reason my ears loves that voice i hear and it makes me more focus on whats transforming on the canvas. Thats why i admire his paintings Its like a music that makes you sleepy, very calm and soothing to hear. Its the impact on how you perceive such a tone of voice gives that reaction to a listener. Amazing unexpected Gods gift

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Bersabe Harris. I've seen Bob Ross many times, I understand exactly what you mean. You watch one of his videos and before you know it he's finished and time has flown by. Very talented painter. Many thanks for your comment and kind words, I appreciate it very much. Stay safe. Matt.

Just have to say “perfect”

Hello just a quick question have you asked the scrap yard if that works or has someone told you that. does it work and has it worked for you

Catching up mate. Interesting. I do a crafty I flatten them and suff them inside ally tubes and flatten them again. Never thought of taking the tabs off or picking them up. And never apologise for OCD its a mental illness. I'm terrible with it.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

My mind is one of those that if I don't get the full answer i have to research and go all out until i get the answer i am looking for. Annoying to some people, my research is interesting to others. Stay safe. Speak soon.

Many states in the US you get a redemption value that is paid at the register as a tax. If they are beverage cans you get that value at the recycler. I just went and CRV was 1.65 a pound .

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Mark, it's been fascinating the comments i've had from different countries. The US and Canada are both subsidised for the cans. Shame we aren't in the UK. I'm sure you can understand why I made the video after receiving a pitiful 5p a kg. Years ago it was £1.50 kg, that's about $1.95. At least it gives people in non subsidised countries a more informed choice. Many thanks for your comment, fascinating and much appreciated. Matt.

@geoffreylohff3876

3 жыл бұрын

Not all aluminum cans. For instance, Monster drinks do not have a deposit (in Iowa, USA). So they are treated as scrap aluminum.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@geoffreylohff3876 Geoffrey, if they haven't got a deposit, you've got me intrigued now. what colour are the ring pulls!!! That's where the easy money is. Thanks for commenting. Stay safe. Matt.

@geoffreylohff3876

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 Looking at one right now. The pulls are the "round" tabs in silver, but the top side is painted black with a little monster M on it. If you're selling them to the craft people, the black could be useful.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@geoffreylohff3876 The Black colour is a god colour to keep hold of to sell. Other colours are Red & Orange.

It was informative.🐎

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Murl, it was informative but too many words..sigh. I'm Welsh we are a chatty bunch. Stay safe. Matt.

My father inlaw needs to move . He has a huge pile of cans in the barn . I'm trying to figure out what's the best fastest way to flatten them out to take to sell ? I'm thinking shoveling them on to a tarp. Fold the tarp over , throw a piece of plywood or somthing over them then drive the truck over them ? Any suggestions, we need to save time because we have alot to move plus these cans ! Thanks

@madmattsbucketlist385

Жыл бұрын

Cody, apologies for the late reply. The reason for the delay is, i've been thinking each day of how you could crush all these cans quickly. I've thought of laying your tarp on top of the cans and criss crossing driving your truck all over them. An 8" x 4"ft plyboard on top of the tarp, but then you risk the plyboard snapping and damaging the underneath of your truck. All i can think of is wrap each load of cans in the tarp, cut your plyboard to 2ft wide and maybe with the 8ft lengths connect them with wood. Drill screws into the top of the plyboard and attach them with wide pieces of wood underneath to hold the plyboard together, then you will have a run of 16ft. Aim for the outer side driving forward and then the inner side reversing. You'll probably have cans being forced to the edges, but that is nothing to the bulk you will be crushing. I'd be interested to hear how you get on, plus the price that you get for the cans in your area/country. I hope that helps. Best wishes, Matt.

in Australia they raised the price of all aluminium cans by 15 cents each and opened recycle centres that pay 10 cents per can or glass plastic bottle... so once per month 3 of us load up the car and sell 35 to 55 $ worth and go to lunch at the club... obviously people walk the streets and raid rubbish bins for the cans and bottles so at least we have more recycling. years ago we would separate out our glass and cns into the recycle bin, but depending upon their logistics those trucks sometimes just dumped the pure recycle into the main waste dump...

@madmattsbucketlist385

2 жыл бұрын

So that is how it works in Australia. I've had alot of comments from Australia saying they receive 10 cents per can. I didn't know about the glass bottles. That's an excellent incentive. Some other subscribers from Australia said that only certain parts of the country receive the 10 cents? It's very similar to parts of USA. Some states give a similar amount per can, then other states don't pay anything. Canada has a deposit scheme on cans and glass alcohol bottles as well. Subscribers in Switzerland and Germany said it's illegal to scrap in their countries, everything is taken away by their local authority. Germany pays money per can with the deposit scheme as well. In the UK they have pushed hard for as much to be recycled as possible. We have a bin for bottles, a bag for paper, a bag for cardboard and another bag for plastics, foil, orange juice cartons and a couple more things. It's time consuming but they collect bin bags every 2 weeks. If they see any items in there that should be recycled they leave the bag and a note saying why they won't take the bags. As the cans are in small bags I could easily collect 20,000 cans in a week. Imagine that if you had 20,000 cans per week at 10 cents a can!!! What do I get for a kg (2.2lb) 67 cans? A pitiful 5 pence. I think that is about 2.5 cents in your currency. Many thanks for watching the video and commenting, both are very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@aniceguy9876

2 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 you cannot sell refund on plastic milk bottles, nor wine bottles, nor aerosol cans but almost everything else earns ten cents ...

An empty coke can is 20gram meaning 50 cans per kg. In Sweden we get 0.64USD per kg casted to a bar and 0.092USD for each returned empty can. This means a loss of 3.96USD per kg when melting the cans to bars instead of just returning the cans.

Well done Brother,,, do think I should melting copper or just leave it as is ,thx again

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Stick with copper and brass. I'll be releasing a video soon why Aluminium ingots aren't worth much at all. Stay safe. Matt.

Thank you for the info on I have been just selling them and plastic bottles never realize you could cut them up and make more money that's like triple the amount.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely a long term project. I just keep the off cuts in compost bags and forget about them. Good thing as well aluminium doesn't rust. Gradually they'll build up to a hefty amount. It's just patience and thinking every part you put in a bag you are making a deposit in your bank. The other thing I'm looking into are the ring pulls. There are thousands of the silver ones but not many of the coloured. I am currently working on something that i am hoping will solve that problem. Many thanks for your comment.

@bobsunkees3392

3 жыл бұрын

I save the can's until the price is up then sale the same thing with plastic bottles however I crushed them the last time I had five 55gallon bags full I wish that the economy would pick up.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobsunkees3392 Bob we all feel the same. If you type in Mining.com they give alot of up to date information about the whole state of the metal market. Aluminium is one of the metals that they believe is set to go up in value. Their copper predictions for 22/23 and the next 15 years is incredible, mostly because of electric cars. Check it out and see if you can find the site. Thanks again for your comment. Matt.

@jonglewongle3438

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobsunkees3392 By cutting up what is the same material you only succeed in rendering the aluminium impossible for the scrapyards to efficiently bale for efficient transport. The bases and tops are only " worth more " than the bodies because they are more condensed, but the scrapyards pay the same weight rate for exactly the same material be it thinner or slightly more condensed.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonglewongle3438 I found out last week about the different types of aluminium. I've done some research after reading your comment, and others. I'm hoping after lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill, so we understand where our scrap goes from the scrapyard, where it ends up and how it is recycled into a useable form. It would be interesting to visit other metal mills as well. I just think it's a huge blank that is missing in our understanding of the process. If you have got any spare time to reply I'd be very interested to hear your point of view on the subject. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.

At the time this video was put out, the approximate cost per lb of cans here in Canada would be about 15 pence for those in Britain or about 40 cents here.

If you melt it all down and sell it as pure aluminum will you get more for it ?

Question from the US. do you put all the shreded soda and beer cans together or do you keep separate when you sell them.

@madmattsbucketlist385

Жыл бұрын

I keep the shredded soda and beer cans in one bag, then the clean aluminium tops and bottoms in another bag or box. The silver tops and bottoms of the soda cans and beer cans would be considered clean aluminium where I live, then the shredded parts I will get a much lower price. Hope that answers your question. Many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Very much appreciated. Matt.

How are you getting different prices for your colored scrap pieces?

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Charles the top and bottoms are considered clean ally, so you get a different price, because of the ink on the coloured middle that is treated as shred ally price. It's the same throughout the UK. One subscriber said to soak them in Acetone then wire wool the remainder ink off, but i don't know the chemical properties as yet. Citric acid, the powder form is brilliant for the same use. I used to clean my collection of vintage tools up with it. Amazing for rust. Once all the ink is off i would get clean aluminum prices then. Alot of work though. All scrap yards give different prices for all sorts of metal. Something that is shred in one yard is considered something else in another yard. It can get confusing, I have one yard near me and they are fair and good with payment, so I can't complain. Many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. I hope I have answered your queston as best I could. Stay safe. Matt.

@philldownes8685

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 thats total rubbish.. the place you go to rips you off big time

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@philldownes8685 I'll reply in your third comment. Thanks. Matt.

Where u getting the prices for the metal to sell

I live in New York and for me cans are worth .06 cents each which means you get $6.00 USD per 100 cans. You pay a deposit when you buy any soda in a can or bottle. within the state of New York, and they return it back to you when you recycle it. I live less than 5 minutes from another state that doesn't charge that deposit and we do all our shopping in that state and then return the cans or bottles to New York.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

$6.00 per 100 cans compared to 5p for 67 cans here in the UK!!! That's brilliant that you can go over to the other state and redeem the money in your state, keep going. With the comments from USA it's surprising how each state differs with the amount they pay. Wish they paid that much over here. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@KosstAmojan

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, these "bottle laws" only exist in a handful of states. In most of the US, you will only get scrap price which is around 30 cents per pound or 65-70 per kilo. Still better than 5, I guess.

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@KosstAmojan Hi Koost Amojan. For me living in the UK America is such a vast country, it's been so interesting the comments people have left. Different parts of the US have different ways of paying, or not, Canada has the deposit scheme, parts of Australia have a subsidy in place. Here in the UK we have nothing...sigh, apart from a pitiful 5p a kg. Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@maxguod

3 жыл бұрын

IDK , what part of over 50 yrs you seen . Deposit was enacted in 1983 . 5 cents . Hasn't changed . Current stores and redemtion centers get 3.5 cents for handling and still is - this state (suxwithcoumo) . So dont mislead the guy .

This would be a perfect job for a person with an OCD disorder! who in their right mind would have or take the time out of their day to cut aluminum cans into strips?

Interesting

Very interesting. Could you use an old paper cutter with the big blades to speed things up. I have seen the tabs used for ear rings here in Switzerland

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

After receiving 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could possibly get out of a can. It also gives people a more informed choice now of their decision regarding to collect or not to collect cans. I haven't heard of tabs for earrings before. I have heard people use them in knitting and crotchet work. If you are an artist I suppose it all depends on your imagination. Thanks for your comment.

Just a thought on being more efficient. Instead of cutting up the cans and own a bench grinder with a wire wheel on it, wire wheel the cans clean from the paint. Save yourself lots of time in my opinion 🤷🏼‍♂️ and possibly reduce cut up hands. Remember to wear a respirator mask going this route! Way to think outside of the box sir 👍🏻

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment orangetruckman. One subscriber suggested soaking them in Acetone then using wire wool to get the ink off. I haven't looked into the chemical properties of Acetone yet. Another possibility, apart from what you suggested, is citric acid (basically lemon juice). I used the powder form (food grade) to clean the rust off vintage tools I used to collect. Amazing stuff. As you say the whole can would be clean ally then. I would have to weigh up the price of the citric acid and whether it is worth it. I'm only a hobby scrapper and hobby You Tuber, but it's interesting just to tinker now and again. Also if it works then other people benefit. Another idea a subscriber suggested about the pull rings was to use the electric process for colouring them. I might start off with spray primer paint then colour paint and see what happens. It's all good fun at the end of the day. Certainly passes the time with this lockdown. I don't know where you live but we've been in lockdown since before Christmas. Only allowed to buy food, petrol and travel within a 5 mile radius. Again many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@newsdaily101

3 жыл бұрын

@@madmattsbucketlist385 hello good videos mate keep it up are you say ing if you clean the ink off the cans it will go into clean aluminium pile about £350ish a ton

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@newsdaily101 It SHOULD. What I am going to do is clean a few, take them down to my local scrap yard office and see what they say. They are pretty good and fair with their pricing. Rather than doing a 1000 then being told the middle is flat rolled Aluminium or something I'd rather see what they say. I'll do a video on it and we'll see what they say. I haven't had prices for a while. The last price for clean aluminium was £570 a tonne. Watch this space as they say. If I don't try then we won't know. All good fun. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.

@newsdaily101

3 жыл бұрын

Hello again if the middle is rolled ally I tryed to find price for rolled alloy but can't see it lol (67 cans normal 5p) (67 cans top and bottom and middle 14p) (67 cans top bottom clean middle no paint if rolled ally.........)

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

@@newsdaily101 Thanks for that Joe. I think I'm going to clean a few cans free of any ink, then I'll take them to my local scrapyard and see what they say about tops and bottoms, rolled Ally or if the whole can crushed counts as clean Ally. That will be another question cleared up for all of us. Don't forget some scrapyards just give one price for aluminium, others give prices for clean, dirty, extruded and so on. When I find out I'll make a video. Take care. Speak soon. Matt.

Now, what if you took all your regular pull tabs and set up a cell and anodized them? I have no idea what that costs but if it were cheap you would be increasing the value of your scrap. Micro Scrapping is definitely a physical bank of sorts. You use the same to things I do, I talk to much and I get dead silent when I'm concentrating 🤣🤣 New sub by the way, you were recommended! Way to work the algorithm

@madmattsbucketlist385

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking along the same lines as yourself. Maybe start off the easiest way, spraying with primer then a colour. If i try i'll make a video whether it's a success or failure. It's all good fun at the end of the day, tinkering with things. All subbed in return, I'm sure we'll speak again. Many thanks for your comment and sub. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.