How to make power with your FA20D powered BRZ or GT86

So you bought your self a Gt86 or a BRZ, and you got use to the 200 crank horsepower within an hour of buying the car, so what should you do know? Well that obviously depends on budget and exactly what you want from your car. So what we are going to do today is go from basic mods to more extreme mods and explain all the mods you need, to go from 200hp to the crank all the way to 500 to the wheels and everything in between.
Okay so lets start by talking about the stock GT86 or BRZ, the FA20 make 197hp to the crank like I mentioned previously but that equates to around 155-160 on the wheels, which really isn’t impressive for a sports car, yes its small and light, but just about any hot hatch will drop a BRZ, I mean 0 to 100kph is reached in a sluggish 7.8 seconds. But don’t fear uncle chris is here with all the info you need to change your brz
#FRS #BRZ #GT86 #AE86

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  • @aplong1911
    @aplong1911 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video it is the exact information I was looking for and was straight forward and well put together, again thanks!!👍🏼

  • @supervegeta369
    @supervegeta3692 жыл бұрын

    This videos going to rack up a lot of attention

  • @ryevdee6064
    @ryevdee60642 жыл бұрын

    Don't need to change out the fuel pump unless you're pushing at or beyond ~450HP per Counter Space Garage

  • @codycurnutte9778
    @codycurnutte9778 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like a supercharged stock motor with a better clutch running 300 whp is the way to go. The car with how light it is is the most balanced at 300 horses. Put it on coil overs and you have the best of both worlds handling and good power. Perfect for reliability while balancing budget and keeping the car balanced. If you bring it up to 500 your breaking things and you can’t push the car as hard in the mountains or on the track without worrying about killing yourself.

  • @mrporsche4236

    @mrporsche4236

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @rehox0

    @rehox0

    2 ай бұрын

    Dont agree

  • @Trio3224
    @Trio3224 Жыл бұрын

    Idk about stock engine going up to 500whp. Unless you mean the block instead. I see people with bent and broken connecting rods around 300-350whp all the time. From everything I've seen, if you wanna go above 300whp, you're gonna want forged internals, or else you're playing a risky game. I have a buddy who just blew up his motor at about 320whp

  • @RealTalkOttawa

    @RealTalkOttawa

    Жыл бұрын

    I just picked a 2017 up and I'm trying to get it up a bit but not too much. maybe around 250-270 range

  • @Trio3224

    @Trio3224

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RealTalkOttawa Yeah that should be perfectly fine. Very low risk of anything breaking. That's kinda the "standard" tune. Most turbos and supercharger kits come with an ECU tune and it's usually in that 240-270 range for that exact reason. You can keep your clutch too. Only cheap mod I might recommend with it is a catch can. I've heard it helps keep particulates out of the engine for a better chance at a longer life. Also, if you can, a custom dyno tune from a good shop is usually better than a stock tune. They can look at your individual car and exhaust setup and make the tune more precise. A good tune goes a long way to keeping things reliable. Best of luck to you! I'm getting ready to install my supercharger here in a few weeks myself :D

  • @burakoshimazaki

    @burakoshimazaki

    Жыл бұрын

    Tune, fuel quality and low end torque are the biggest factors. Low end torque is not good on the stock rods but they do well at higher RPMs. Just can't put too much load on the engine or "lug" it.

  • @Trio3224

    @Trio3224

    Жыл бұрын

    @@burakoshimazaki Yeah, that's why it seems like centrifugal superchargers generally don't break these engines as easily as turbos or roots style superchargers. I saw one guy who had a custom tuned centrifugal supercharger at 320whp on a stock engine and they tracked it regularly for years with no problems. So tune matters a lot, but in my personal opinion from the research I've done I think if you don't wanna break your engine, stay under 300whp if it's stock internals. If you wanna go over 300, you've gotta open it up and replace the rods and pistons.

  • @AJS86

    @AJS86

    Жыл бұрын

    What about crank, rods, pistons, new heads and inlet manifold?

  • @burakoshimazaki
    @burakoshimazaki Жыл бұрын

    Stock air intake is already a cold air intake. Very little room for improvement other than changing the filter and maybe the snorkel.

  • @abstrctkaleb582
    @abstrctkaleb5829 ай бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @Jayjewelerofficial
    @Jayjewelerofficial Жыл бұрын

    Anything above 300whp I suggest build the engine it’s going to blow ,300whp is safe with stock internals

  • @spaceflighthistory5362

    @spaceflighthistory5362

    2 ай бұрын

    What would you suggest for a 400hp brz?

  • @alrightalrightalrightalrig1403
    @alrightalrightalrightalrig1403 Жыл бұрын

    Tight tight tight yeah!!!

  • @jesse584
    @jesse584 Жыл бұрын

    you can go way more hp on N/A set up... but of course you need to build the internals and go for higher rpm 😋

  • @liamc8085

    @liamc8085

    Жыл бұрын

    For 2 liter BRZ Brian Crower makes good internals. And after that get something custom for the pistons like Manley piston to easily break 10k rpm. Def upgrade the clutch before that tho. Idk if it can handle the rpm but I sure as hell wouldn't want to find out.

  • @callumroper7251

    @callumroper7251

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@liamc8085 8-8.5k rpm sounds feasible, 9k's a stretch, but 10k? What does someone have to do to reach it with a square bore/stroke ratio, 500cc per cylinder piston engine and not rip it apart with the piston speeds alone? Not even Honda went above 9k with the S2000 and lowered the redline for the F22C because of piston speeds

  • @RealTalkOttawa

    @RealTalkOttawa

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm kinda new to the car scene, but I want to take my Brz to its limits but trying to keep it N/A because I love instant power.

  • @jesse584

    @jesse584

    6 ай бұрын

    @@callumroper7251 you build for it... like he said, there are rods and pistons, built to take the abuse of high RPM... what i am more worried about is the valve springs... they need to keep up, or you slap the valve with the piston... it's a vary tight combustion chamber... 😅 also, you can't compare forged internals to the cast internals of a stock engine.... stock is built to a certain tolerance to be good enough, yet fast and cheap for mass product. they keep it from blowing up, with limiters... GT86 limiter is set to 7.5k stock.

  • @jesse584

    @jesse584

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RealTalkOttawa well, first step for more power is, better air flow. intake/exhaust/tune. next step up would be adding intake and throttle body spacers, along with a larger throttle body and injectors then retune... (quad throttle bodies are an option on the FA20😊) add lighter belt pulleys as well, and that should make the stock internals really sing.... next it gets more involved, and expensive... I'd suggest a banks data monster, and throttle control. these will help keep track of what is happening to the engine, as you are playing with the RPM limit. the more data you get, the more fine tuning you can do. now onto more power making on an N/A. the engine is a pump, and the faster you can make it pump, the better. this requires lightening things like the pulleys, flywheel, pistons/rods, etc... these parts need to be high quality, or 💥 Valve springs are important, if they can't keep up with the higher RPM in the next tune, well... the valves will float, the piston will hit the valve at an extremely high rate of speed..... 💥💥💥🔥🙊 Now.... all this, will make the car... different to drive, to say the least... it will have a much heavier clutch feel, and need to be revved higher to take off, due to the momentum of heavier parts being gone... Race car vibes... and would need to be driven as such... so if you are not planning on driving it to the limit all the time, but more daily, I'd suggest sticking to just the external bits, and stock rev limiter... Stop where i talked about the Banks monitors... ya don't really need anything more then that for road use, ya don't even need as big of injectors as you would for the high rpm race engine build... Remember, the rest of the car is just as important as the engine... my mods started with body stiffening (strut towers/fender braces/ect.)... and man... world of difference, for a momentum car... .... and this turned into a rant... 😅 Goodluck :3

  • @robchapman6567
    @robchapman65675 ай бұрын

    I own one.....if your not tracking....its still an amazing handling fun car...IMO just do the basics....fix the torque dip

  • @user-hb8fb3hi3h
    @user-hb8fb3hi3h17 күн бұрын

    You forgot to upgrade the cams and the injectors and the intake manifold before going to boost.

  • @elcascoviejo5347
    @elcascoviejo5347Ай бұрын

    cansome one can tell me how mutch can the diff hold?

  • @jovannyrivera5251
    @jovannyrivera5251 Жыл бұрын

    Need help with my brz to push more hp

  • @samstedman409
    @samstedman40910 ай бұрын

    Seeing how much work you have to put in just to end up like all the other poorly modded brzs out there makes me just wanna save the money on the mods and just get a used Cayman

  • @JamesCook-uo7wy

    @JamesCook-uo7wy

    Ай бұрын

    Thought of the same before I bought mine but after seeing the maintenance cost I decided to pick up the gt86

  • @samstedman409

    @samstedman409

    18 күн бұрын

    @@JamesCook-uo7wy honestly the stock power is plenty but if you desire more power, modding this car is just usually kinda ugly. Unless you really know what you’re doing, you’ll lose everything you saved on maintenance when it comes time to sell. Porsches hold value best in their class, modded brzs are a dime a dozen on Facebook marketplace cause no one wants someone else’s sketchy handiwork. Lot of people forget about resale value 🙂.

  • @JamesCook-uo7wy

    @JamesCook-uo7wy

    17 күн бұрын

    @@samstedman409 Yeah well pros and cons for both. But im rly enjoying my stock 86 right now always fun driving it and not planning to sell it ever. Next target is a 911 🙂

  • @loganh3269
    @loganh32698 ай бұрын

    When bro said cai I clicked off the vid 🤣

  • @kaumohlamonyane272
    @kaumohlamonyane272Ай бұрын

    I know my south africans when I hear them😉

  • @kirkhohing319
    @kirkhohing319Ай бұрын

    That 200whp build is flawed. Each gain is at different parts of the hp curve. You just can't add the gains together.

  • @user-vj9jv7gb2r
    @user-vj9jv7gb2r Жыл бұрын

    What body kit is in thumbnail?

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    Cats bough

  • @ardianaz5599

    @ardianaz5599

    5 ай бұрын

    "SQRDdsgn" bodykit

  • @PeanutButAlsoButter

    @PeanutButAlsoButter

    2 ай бұрын

    So glad someone else already asked this 😁

  • @86kevinn
    @86kevinn Жыл бұрын

    these numbers are off, headers and e85 gets ya around 190whp at most

  • @TRD-FRS

    @TRD-FRS

    Жыл бұрын

    Very late, I know. But Ace headers and a tune will get you right about 200whp. The JDL 4-2-1 (or something like that) will get similar power too, but most of the headers and tune will be between 185-190whp. So E85 plus Ace headers Will get you at least 210. But still his numbers are high

  • @imcertainlygay8680

    @imcertainlygay8680

    Жыл бұрын

    Should’ve gotten the 2.4L😂

  • @86kevinn

    @86kevinn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TRD-FRS yea i found it weird how ace was the only one that gave the most power i wish i knew that earlier 😂

  • @86kevinn

    @86kevinn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@imcertainlygay8680 nah that’s too expensive only to be just as slow, my 86 was more of a fresh out of highschool budget car. i’m doing things right this time and just getting a 5.0 lol

  • @TRD-FRS

    @TRD-FRS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@86kevinn it’s all about design and the type of header. Unfortunately people ‘need’ that UEL sound, so they sacrifice power for that. I also did forget to mention, but the Ace headers compared to headers with similar power differ in another important way, and that is area under the curve. Not only does Ace have the highest peak power (within half a horse with some competitors), but when you look at power throughout the curve it is higher in pretty much every rpm range, and that’s what sets it apart.

  • @stuffyvr6058
    @stuffyvr60584 ай бұрын

    i would be happy with 350-400hp boosted for daily use and for more i would rather engine swap it.

  • @rehox0

    @rehox0

    2 ай бұрын

    for above 300hp you need build block if u want it for daily

  • @krishall268
    @krishall268 Жыл бұрын

    I made 460 on 91 pump gas

  • @anthonyparra9553

    @anthonyparra9553

    Жыл бұрын

    stock internals?!

  • @krishall268

    @krishall268

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyparra9553 built engine, 9:0.1

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck with that bro

  • @krishall268

    @krishall268

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GAMRMNTS2 been like this for 4 years now, thanks for the sarcasm

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@krishall268 your welcome 🤗

  • @HandlewithcareVibes
    @HandlewithcareVibes2 жыл бұрын

    at 1:00 both drivers can't drive

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    😭

  • @Spyder1

    @Spyder1

    Жыл бұрын

    How so?

  • @remyche8768
    @remyche87683 ай бұрын

    Just g16 swap it. Engine from gr yairs/corolla stock 300hp, and lighter then the boxer.

  • @rehox0

    @rehox0

    2 ай бұрын

    Just go for hks engine, better than swap

  • @twistedsanity623
    @twistedsanity623 Жыл бұрын

    Do I hear a boertjie accent?😏

  • @ChrisVSCars

    @ChrisVSCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe😂

  • @apexstrider

    @apexstrider

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisVSCars 😁😁😁Great vid. What I was actually looking for and Im thinking this oke sounds local. Subbed!

  • @ChrisVSCars

    @ChrisVSCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man😂😂. Yeah local is lekker

  • @fujiwarahazim86
    @fujiwarahazim8610 ай бұрын

    Nahhh

  • @madmagician4230
    @madmagician4230 Жыл бұрын

    CAI don't do shit for these cars, if anything you lose power. maximum you can get from headers and a tune is like 15hp, full exhaust and e85? low 190's if you're lucky. this is all bullshit...

  • @limunVTS

    @limunVTS

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed, i changed headers, frontpipe, only one 200cell racing cat, full flow backbox, cai, all that, +custom tune, did 215 hp (crank) on 102 octane

  • @TRD-FRS

    @TRD-FRS

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t say this is all BS, but I wouldn’t say it is accurate. Most CAI’s decrease power because they actually get hotter air over the stock intake because the stock intake is pretty much as ‘cold’ as you can get. Another missed fact in the video is the fact that CAI’s don’t do anything unless tuned. That doesn’t mean all intakes don’t produce power like that though. You can find it on the general forums, but stock tuned car vs TRD intake tuned and the car got 14 whp. As for FBO’s, CSG’s tune with the Ace header is right about 200whp, but that’s with the holy grail header rather than most UEL and other headers people get which do help but not that much. I could pretty much say Ace headers, good front pipe, any aftermarket catback, actual good intake, tune, and E85 could get you at least 220whp. That’s if it’s tuned right and has pretty good parts.

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    Why you so butt hurt dude😂 calm yourself down

  • @needmetal3221
    @needmetal32216 ай бұрын

    Wtf is a mawd

  • @Treaxvour

    @Treaxvour

    Ай бұрын

    Mod

  • @GAMRMNTS2
    @GAMRMNTS2 Жыл бұрын

    Just Ls swap it

  • @noname-pu2ye

    @noname-pu2ye

    Жыл бұрын

    Ls swaps belong in gym cars only

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noname-pu2ye ok balsa wood 🪵

  • @tylermiavlogs5441

    @tylermiavlogs5441

    Жыл бұрын

    Not worth the weight. Looking for a track car.

  • @GAMRMNTS2

    @GAMRMNTS2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylermiavlogs5441 👍🏾

  • @samstone8841

    @samstone8841

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylermiavlogs5441 I think you underestimate how heavy the FA20 is