The most innovative way to make a carbon tube is to simply roll the tube and just fill the tube with loose carbon fiber all in the same direction already with resin, done. Don't even bother with vacuum. Ocean Gate approves

PART 2 Will be uploaded 15-09-22

@dorianvincent2101

Жыл бұрын

So faaaar 😩 but we will be able to wait for the good content 😌

Love the look of the last one but the first one seemed to resonate as best beginner choice . Thank you for the video.

I've had great success with heat shrink tubing from Soller composites. The epoxy-resistant tubing shrinks down and squeezes out the excess epoxy. Makes a perfect tube!

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@FirstLast-tx3yj

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert have you ever attempted to test the tubes done in different ways under a hydrolic press or bending forces? Would be interesting to find out if the technique affected the final strength of the tube!

such a useful video thanks so much dear mat I learned so much from this video especially about putting the aluminum mold in the freezer for releasing from the part

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Outstanding presentation! Thanks for the great video and the explanations of the different techniques. Great job.

ex aerospace filament winding manufacturing engineer here. I worked in the industry for around 10 years before moving 4 years ago. Happy to answer any questions you may have which x winder weren't answering if it was technique based.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Hi! thanks for your comment! The X winder is good but has some limitations, the biggest problem is the carriage. I'll re-design it with linear rails and lighter weight in the future. Glad to hear I can come back to you for more information!

Hi Matthieu, I love your videos! Keep them coming!! I would find it really interesting if you could compare the stiffness and strengths of the different methods, I would appreciate if you could do some impact resistance tests of composites too if you have the time! Great video as always.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great suggestion, will see what I can do for future videos, as not all of these tubes were made in same thickness it might give some information that wouldn't be correct!

@osaroidusogie7861

8 ай бұрын

hi were u abl to get this orted out

I was taught to wrap the tube with 3 layers of tape. The first at medium tension, then tight, then medium for the last wrap. My favorite material to make tubes from was a knitted triaxial carbon at +45, -45, and 0 degrees. I made a 59cm frameset that weighed a little over 3lbs with it, the forks weighed right at 1lb.

Hi Matt great video! I was wondering if your vaccum pump is running during the whole curing process? If not how do you keep a high vaccum level in the vaccum bag ? Thank for your answer

Thank's for showing. I have been watching Easy Composite and you to get an idea how to make the main beam on my laser cutting machine. It's not easy to find exactly the dimension I want and strength in the directions I want 😉🇧🇻

Will there be a video on stress testing these 4 types of carbon fiber tubes? (bending and compression) I would like to see which method gives the best results. Or it would be surprising if the results from the test is uniform across the board.

Thank you so much. 🙏

Excellent. Thank you.

Also great video Tutorial, if anything I will be making my own filament winder. After doing my research, it would have been cheaper to make your own with bigger motors to wind even faster.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Shouldnt be to hard to make, the hardest part is software in my opinion

I like your ideas, use to work for profile composite/ profile manufacturing building shafts for the paddle industry and prototypes in the lacrosse field etc. Looking to make a special layup blow gun. I see wil need to get larger oven for what to make

Bonjour matthieu, très belle vidéo avec technique...bravo

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Merci !

Nice work!!

Hey Matthieu thanks for your great video. I just have a small question, I would like to know what kind of tape do you use in minute 02:04?? If possible could you please tell me which one did you use or probably write the link to buy? Wish you best luck and a great day

Hi, thanks. Very informative! I'm loooking for techniques of making large diameter tubes for telescopes. In range of 30-50cm in diameter. I think it can be done with the winding method.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Yes correct, should be posssible!

I wonder if the X-winder can also work with square tubes and profiles. I also wonder if CF tape can be used in the X-winder.

Amazing thanks. 👍

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

What kind of shrink tape are you using? with the exception of the split molds is there a way to remove the aluminum pipe is there are bends in the pipe not allowing the pipe to slip out from the carbon?

Hi Matthieu, how long and how many degrees of heat during carbon prepreg in the oven,please answer

How do the strength and stiffness of each technique compare?

There is also another way. Just doing it with wet laminate and vaccum.bag the tube. Great video!

In the split mold method some aerospace companies use inflatable bladders to maintain a constant surface pressure. Very expensive

Great Video! Do the tubes have good circular runout? What is the best technique to achieve the highest circular runout without reworking it?

Ever thought of positive pressure in split mold tehnique, inner tube put on pressure?

Great Tutorial

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! See you in the comments on the next one, next week 😉

@gafrers

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert You can count on it

Nice video thanks! 👍

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

these are good for epicly strong robot legs.

Thank you for information

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

hi, how did you make the mould for the split mould tubes?

Which method is the best in terms of strength and stiffness? I've seen videos of driveshafts being made by means of tow winding, but is it because it is the strongest, or because it's more difficult to use weaves to make long driveshafts?

Great videos!! Congratulations ;-)

Hi There Thank you for the video techniques with carbon fibre I have a questuon Hiw would you approach a conical shape 40cm diameter 30cm height Maybe one sheet to cover it all ar once or in pieces or any other way Much apprieciate your help Best

Great video! For those of us in the U.S., any recommendation as to where to buy materials? In particular, I'm looking for carbon fiber sleeves and heat-shrink tape. Thanks.

@polaraligned1

Жыл бұрын

Composite Envisions has both. I have had excellent service from them in the past.

Hi Matthieu, I always watch you procedings with great interest and find them very very educational and informative. However, I would like to present a problem in regard to carbon tubes. I am an avid model airplane flyer and builder. I would like to make a wingtube. In this case a tube that has an outside diameter that exactly matches the inner diameter of the existing tube that is in the wings. Is there a method or technique to do that ? It would be very much appreciated if you could offert some advise.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

thanks awesome! seeing your name you must be dutch or belgian (would rather think dutch) :D The best way would be to measure out the inner diameter you want for your new tube, buy an aluminium mandrel (with your inner diameter you want in carbonfiber being the outer diameter of this aluminium tube and make a tube on this mandrel). Might be hard to explain on here but I guess it's possible to understand?! :D

@b.w.oostdam8875

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert Hello Matthieu, thank you very much for your reactiom/answer. I confess: Dutch 🙂. I understand but I have to account for the lay-up thickness. This is where the problem starts. The tubes have to fit without ANY play. It must be an exact fit. Perhaps I should make 2 tubes that fit into-each other and glue the larger one into the existing tube of the wing. Hoping I will not add much weight by doing that... Then there is the question of how to make tubes with exact dimensions with very small tolerances..

H Matthieu, any alternative on curing process without oven?

Muito bom

Amazing! Thanks a lot, Matthieu

Obrigado amigo

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I dont speak portugese but I understand this :D

Where can I get the carbon fiber that comes in a hose?

Have you ever made a rear superkart wing?

Who the split mold process be the same if I were to joint two ends together at a corner? Like for a front car splitter lip or a rear car diffuser. Those parts have complex shapes that can’t be don’t in 1 pieces of carbon fiber so multiple pieces of carbon fiber are used.

Good info

for high strength, you need to suck vacuum from it. So that 14 psi from atmosphere pressure will be applied to the part to increase the strength. For thicker part, 14psi is not enough, you need to suck vacuum and put the part in pressure container to apply additional 60 psi. If no pressure, there will be random small distance between the fabric.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

An out of autoclave prepreg was used here for the splitmould tube. So -1 Bar which is enough for this prepreg. You are correct with the pressure but not everyone has acces to autoclaves :D so this is giving decently good results but if your looking for parts for F1 or out of space you'd better use an autoclave with pressure as well

Is it possible to have make tubes that have threaded ends? I want file a form 1 to build a silencer and this would be an awesome way to do it if I could screw it on a barrel and put on end caps.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's possible! you can add threaded ends by gluing in an aluminium thread on the ends of the Tubes, won't be featured in next video but might do it in a future video maybe 🙂

I take number 3. do you think you get peel ply out of the tube? Got 60mm outside and need a good as possible surface inside

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Should work... If you can get the start you might be able to get it out I think

what shrink wrap are you using?

Could you advise on how to make square tubings

Hi friend! You have a tutorial carbon wrap manual?

What about the split technique, with continuous fabric? Wrap the fabric around a rod, that is much smaller than the split mold, stick it trough and unroll into the mold. Finally put like a bicycle inner tube into the mold and pump it up, to apply pressure against the fabric.

Dear sir, what the material require to complete carbon fiber. i am not clear on. pls help and recommend me.

This guy sounds exactly like David Windestal from flite test!

Do you have video for repairing broken fishing rod?

Good Video! :)

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🤗🙏

nice presentation M.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly

Hello, Will it be possible to make a carbon fiber tube with open structure (porous), such as a filter?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Would be possible but not like surface porous, you could cnc drill a lot of holes if needed

@inthefade

8 ай бұрын

What gives CF it's strength is that it is a composite material with a resin. Also drilling holes will limit the length of the fibers and that reduces strength.

awsome

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Cool, what's the diameter limit for this technique if the 220g twill 3k carbon fiber is used? God bless.

@lunam7249

7 ай бұрын

add more words to your question....dont be lazy and i might give you the answer

@SevenDeMagnus

7 ай бұрын

@@lunam7249 rearranged :-)

What cycling industry technique they use??

SOrry first time I see the enclave bit... where can I learn ,more about this....?

Can you make AR 15 handguards??

Which is the lightest and strongest tube? Taking into account the thickness. Thank you.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, as all tubes were made in different ways it might be something hard to compare. Due to the many comments on that topic, it might be something intersting to do in a future video!

@jaimempm

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert yes!! Make a video :)

Hi friend! Good job! You maker a turning metal?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Hi, no I don't turn metal 🙂

@amdetalhes

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert lathe base openbuild

Great Video again. Could you please tell us what shrink tape you use and where to buy it?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

It's from Easy Composites as well, you can find it on their website 🙂

PROBLEM : I am going to make a GOAT Single Seat Glider. Its an AL tubing 6061 T6 structure all arround. In India we have NO SOURCE for 6061 T6 Al tubing especially the sizes I need....and importing is mental. SOLUTION ? CF raw material is available and raw material infact is also easily importable ... So make the Tubes out of CF QUESTION : For a given size of AL ...how do i figure out the EQUIVALENT CF solution ? MEEEOW???

Don’t bother contacting X-Winder, I have been hoping they would fix some of the issues I was having, but I think Turner Hunt no longer sees any need to make any more improvements to the winder.

How does one make a 5 foot long tube? As an example, say a paddle for boating?

@inthefade

8 ай бұрын

You can use lost casting methods with CF. Or you can simply wrap the CF over a light weight structural material that you don't remove afterwards.

How do I scale this up to make a 10 metre mast for a sailing boat?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

You could buy a boat for the investment needed to scale this up to 10m long 😁 there are some companies specialized in just making big and long tubes for specific applications

@mwinner101

Жыл бұрын

There is a “How It’s Made” episode of that. Good episode.

I used a waxed pvc pipe for my wet layup. I then got it off by putting in freezer.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

correct works well with pvc tubes as pvc releases pretty well from epoxy

What is for oven ?

Hi, what kind of shrink tape do you use?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

It's the one I bought from Easycomposites. If you need specific information about that tape you can always try to contact Easycomposites, sure they'll be able to help you out

@nisde1503

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert thx

*Hello my friend 🇧🇷❤*

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment!

The last method is like making kokoretsi!

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know what it was and had to look it up, looks like that indeed 😁

And what about shaped tubes with clear finish on both sides?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Will show that in the next video, you can finish the shrink tape side to a good finish as well with some care 🙂 the mandrel side will already have a good finish

@petrmajstr5098

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert I mean like prepreg refueling s shaped tube with same thickness of wall on whole part

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Did it in another tutorial with the 3d printed moulds and silicone expanding core, there youll get a finish on the inside and outside

Is it precize for the inner diameter?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

depends on different techniques. The split mould will give you perfect outer diameter the other techniques will give you perfect inner diameters :)

Разве можно что нибудь изобрести в такой чистоте?

What is the strength of braided carbon fiber tubes?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

strenght is hard to define by numbers, it is strong on 45° so torsion, less on bend and stress

@lunam7249

7 ай бұрын

very strong...1/2 aluminium by wieght and size, in this tube form.....in perfect orientation 40 times stronger than steel!

Existe uma técnica de molde por fora e bexiga por dentro?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

sorry I don't speak portuguese :)

@guilhermeparca

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert everything OK my friend. I'm translating this message in Google translator. I want to know if there is any technique to do everything with a curve using a ppr bladder inside and mold on the outside. sorry if i couldn't be clear and thanks

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes it's possible, bladders are a common thing in the composites industry!

the name of the plastic wrap, sir

Wil je mij een keer helpen met het bekleden van mij e-foil blank?

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Heb ik niet meteen ervaring mee 🙂

@iamkian

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthieuLibeert Jammer :-(

split mold seems like it would be weaker

@lunam7249

7 ай бұрын

it does huh?, it is

Carbon fiber cracks very easy under any strain, just ask the titan sub crew, O I'm sorry they're dead.

There is a nicer way of sealing the bag using 2 pvc pipes. (assuming it is a bag with one open end) One is C shaped, the side is open. You wrap the plastic around the pipe, do not roll it. Clip the C shaped Pipe over the plastic and pipe. Your done and can re-use this over and over. The closest example I can think of is a woman's hair curlers. But there is no need to roll the 'hair' around the curler, just a wrap.

@kde5fan737

Жыл бұрын

Have you found any video's of this process or websites explaining this? I'd really like to see it done in practice as I'm not 100% clear on your explination. I understand the hair curler comparison but I'm not sure about the bagging & plastic wrap part.

@MatthieuLibeert

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, thanks for your comment! Not 100% sure I know what you mean as well, do you mean you put a pvc tube diameter on the inside of the bag, then clip on a c-shape pvc over the bag and pvc tube that is on the inside of that bag to seal it of? If seen it being done on ends of bigger vacuumbags but not sure you can get it fully leak free that way, mostly seen it used in veneer wood bending with vacuümbags, where vacuum doesn't have to be 100%

Türkiye language pls

Tubular

Dude please wear gloves when handling CF

come BUTEKOM

Извини дружище, но трубы ты не умеешь делать от слова совсем . Ахинею нам показываешь, лапая жирными руками припрег и засовывая потом изделия в холодильник . У тебя вообще есть образование серьезное в этой профессии? Такое впечатление что тебя взяли с кассы супермаркета и поставили к бочке с эпоксидной смолой -)))

Lord, too much bs talking, in the intro

Dude please wear gloves when handling CF