How To Make a Key if it's Lost (Without a Key Cutting Machine 2022)

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In this video, I cover how to make a key if it's lost without expensive equipment. Perfect for Locksmiths out in the field and perfect for people who do not want to hire a Locksmith to generate a missing key to a lock.
Tools used in this video:
Lishi Key Cutters
Proxlock 3D Printed Key Cutter Guide
These can be found on ebay
Whittier Locksmith Services
whittierlocksmith.us

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  • @rmsg7504
    @rmsg750410 ай бұрын

    Nice video! I have the Klom set, I have never used it. Now I want to order the 3d printed sets and keep them in my personal vehicle. Thank you!

  • @ludditeneaderthal
    @ludditeneaderthal Жыл бұрын

    A 21st century take on the old school depth key sets... not a bad idea at all. Quite a bit quicker than the dial caliper, scribe, and chainsaw file method of the 80s, lol

  • @ludditeneaderthal

    @ludditeneaderthal

    Жыл бұрын

    @Will Hike in my case it was located at 42nd st and broadway

  • @christopherlawler3033
    @christopherlawler3033 Жыл бұрын

    I use the Pro-Lok Blue-Punch #BP-201 for conventional Schlage keys... Standard key depth gauges to take direct key measurements & record those key codes from the direct key measurements for future record... Notably to originate duplicate keys without having a physical key in possession. The Pro-Lok Blue-Punch key machine does not require electricity, is calibrated at the factory for both cut depth & spacing, in function - automatically advances to the next cut once the lever is pulled and a cut has been produced. works for most [Schlage] conventional keys up to 6-pin. For other manufactures (such as Kwikset) additional Blue-Punch key machines must be acquired that have been set up for those particular manufactures or makes, due to the differences in depth & spacing specifications. Not a bad tool for the institutional locksmith that only services one particular manufacture brand or type of key & lock system.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    yes! The blue punches are great!!! Way better and accurate than a lishi cutter with jigs. I do not have the blue punch anymore, i should get one tho!

  • @christopherlawler3033

    @christopherlawler3033

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 I use mine to cut my own keys by code number. I have a D-Family Everest Restricted Primus-XP Key System and as a Schlage Factory Registered End-User, I also have exclusive control over my restricted key inventories, from which is only available directly from the Schlage factory in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherlawler3033 very cool!! I was thinking of doing restricted key ways, but i am mostly automotive

  • @fillup40

    @fillup40

    Жыл бұрын

    Blue punch worth it s weight in gold.

  • @odinslockllc
    @odinslockllc Жыл бұрын

    I like the lishi nippers but I think the Klom nippers are more robust. Those proxlock guides are nice addition for jic situations. Thanks for sharing!

  • @BTW...
    @BTW... Жыл бұрын

    Nice demonstration of the clipper. Handy.. difficult without the correct plastic guides. So, your question.... I've never seen a 'Quickset and very limited numbers of 'Schlage'. The Schl' I have played with recently had 4x barrel security pins and 1 standard. What I did not like was the die-cast alloy body... never do. Do the Quickies have a security flaw? So.. can't really say. It's a regional thing - Here in Australia, for years the market leaders have been Lockwood.. Lane is another. You find plenty of no name stuff that comes with budget and mid Door Furniture. But finding die-cast while doin' a key alike across a home.. Ugghh. so, 12 barrels... 4 were decent serviceable Lockwood brass at least.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    Kwikset and Schlage are the most common lock used in USA. The tolerance on kwikset is low but Schlage is better.

  • @GrantAmann
    @GrantAmann2 жыл бұрын

    woah, crazy good video! Thanks for the upload. Im having trouble finding the proxlock 3d printed key cutter guide. any idea? thanks!

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    2 жыл бұрын

    sorry for the delay, here is the Schlage guide- www.ebay.com/itm/265214859069?hash=item3dc009973d:g:36IAAOSwGc1g4I3i Search ebay also for Lishi cutters

  • @GrantAmann

    @GrantAmann

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 no worries, thanks so much!

  • @buz375
    @buz375 Жыл бұрын

    I use sfic 7 pin with pivot hinges

  • @jolak.9853
    @jolak.9853 Жыл бұрын

    ty

  • @albertosierra3478
    @albertosierra3478 Жыл бұрын

    What about doing it the traditional old school just with the file working on the vise? No special tools just show that you know how to do it in emergencies this is just a comment thank you

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a video showing how I make a file cabinet key

  • @Paramotorking64
    @Paramotorking64Ай бұрын

    Willis work for camper locks does the camper lock keys look totally different

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Ай бұрын

    They are different style of locks but if you dissemble the lock, it works same way

  • @juliocardenas6902
    @juliocardenas69027 ай бұрын

    Buenos dias o noche cuanto vale ese kit para cortar las llaves estoy en venezuela saludos

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    7 ай бұрын

    Prices vary for different ones www.ebay.com/usr/proxlock

  • @scottlepage6211
    @scottlepage6211 Жыл бұрын

    It’s appreciated that you can show and tell everyone about your nice cutting pliers and I don’t mean any disrespect but how did you find out the key code to begin with. Knowing ahead the key code is 34477 doesn’t do anyone any good if you don’t explain how you came to the conclusion that was the code. Anyone can use a pair of pliers but they’re no good if you don’t show an example of how you determine what it is if you have no key to begin with. It would be very educational to understand how one discovers the code when it’s unknown. Thanks. Cool pliers.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    In previous video I made how to rekey a lock, we pinned up a cylinder with those pins

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    You can also decode the lock with a lishi, but in the beginning of this video, I mention that we got the bitting info from the rekey video and this video supplements this one- kinda like a continuation of that video on how to rekey a new lock

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    Here is that video by the way where we got the pinning info to cut key kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6ejlMd8ctK9oJM.html

  • @Aitch-Two-Oh

    @Aitch-Two-Oh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 Maybe put that link in the description?

  • @christostoumazou1166
    @christostoumazou11668 ай бұрын

    i find the key cutter but i can not fine the pin shield - how we orde it where

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    8 ай бұрын

    The plug follower? Which pin shield do you mean?

  • @mackhamby5332
    @mackhamby5332 Жыл бұрын

    How do i find they guides. Three d printed or not?

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    You can get them printed or buy em on eBay, I’ll send a link to both in a bit

  • @user-dt2pn3xr5u
    @user-dt2pn3xr5u4 ай бұрын

    Products name please

  • @bellindj
    @bellindj Жыл бұрын

    Personally I wouldn'y have put the key in the cylinder with getting the brass burrs off first

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    The lishi cutter doesn’t leave burrs behind

  • @326DONCASTER
    @326DONCASTER Жыл бұрын

    Where can I get the plastic Key guides from

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    you can buy em on ebay or you can have them 3d printed here is ebay link www.ebay.com/usr/proxlock

  • @WRWhizard
    @WRWhizard Жыл бұрын

    I tried a couple times today to copy a key by using a vise grip to pair them and nipping. The target lock is a cutaway practice lock so I can see the result. Threw away 2 failed attempts. I've seen this work, but I think it takes a bit of practice.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    Using the plastic guides is best. I have also tried just trying to duplicate but never works. Using the jigs as seen in this video works 100% of time, although sometimes not buttery smooth but works

  • @WRWhizard

    @WRWhizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 I was looking for them, Bosnian Bill makes a set but they were pricey and out of stock. I think I will try nipping again and then check with my calipers to see which way I err. I bought the dang nippers on a whim, never really needed them, and don't want the money wasted! When I pick up a hobby, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. I tried impressioning one night. That was another failed blank .

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WRWhizard Here is ebay link. They are sorta pricey, and I do not have any association with this product other than using them. www.ebay.com/usr/proxlock if you have a 3d printer, you can print them, not sure if you need to modify them as I haven't printed any yet www.thingiverse.com/thing:5163333

  • @WRWhizard

    @WRWhizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 Thank you, I will bookmark these. But I really ought not spend this kind of money on a side hobby. Wish my little brother was still alive, he would 3D print them for me.

  • @scotts4125

    @scotts4125

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WRWhizard Impressioning takes a lot of practice and there are so many little tricks. if you don't know them all it's so easy to fail. That was my specialty. If you can find old Hank Spicer books he is the guy that I learned most of my skills from. Nobody ever did it better than Hank.

  • @scotts4125
    @scotts4125 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think I will be giving up my Framon No.2 any time soon. :)

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing beats a code machine!

  • @scotts4125

    @scotts4125

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn I am getting old. I have had it probably 35 years. When I bought it everyone was using 1200’s. I met Frank (the inventor) at locksmith seminars and he sold me on it.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scotts4125 solid machine! I have a hpc 1200 cmb

  • @scotts4125

    @scotts4125

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 Back in the day Steve formally of Tech Train went around country usually with Frank from Framon and a guy from The Locksmith Ledger. They gave great auto locksmith seminars. They had people come in from Strattec and many other auto lock tool and suppliers. Frank showed us why his machine was superior to the HPC 1200's. He explained that when we cut keys sometimes the key turns fine clockwise but could be tight CCW and or vice versa. On most key machines for standard keys the cutter wheel comes up at an angle. If a lock has tight tolerances it can cause the issue I mentioned. Frank was a machinist and also a cabinet maker. He was anal about tolerances. On his machine you make all your adjustments first and pull the carriage straight into the key on a 90* angle. On a 1200 you are making depth adjustment on the fly while it comes up at an angle. I think you also widen the cuts on the fly. You don't have to widen cuts on the F2 either. The Framon 2 looked very complicated but once I cut a few keys it was very easy and no cards to worry about. Most guys who have 1200's love them and that's OK too. They work but to me not as well as the Framon's. Being an automotive only locksmtih I always told people I was horrible at picking locks but I could make a key with a file and a vice grip. I was really good at impressioning back when had to have that skill. Now everything is a PITA driven by technology. Programmers and CNC key machines lol but we do it all. We run about 90 to sometimes 150 auto calls per week believe it or not.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scotts4125 agreed! I’m mostly automotive and agree that the computer systems are getting more complicated. Thank god for lishi! I would love to improve my impression skill. But you can’t impression high security 4 track keys, that I’m aware of

  • @nazneenislam6375
    @nazneenislam63758 ай бұрын

    i need to make duplicate key can you help me please

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    8 ай бұрын

    What type of key? What tools do you have?

  • @user-dt2pn3xr5u
    @user-dt2pn3xr5u4 ай бұрын

    Part names please

  • @charlesflaco7976
    @charlesflaco7976 Жыл бұрын

    Where can you get the pronlock?

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    www.ebay.com/itm/265214859069?hash=item3dc009973d%3Ag%3A36IAAOSwGc1g4I3i#vi__app-cvip-panel

  • @charlesflaco7976

    @charlesflaco7976

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewhittierlocksmith121 thanks

  • @flapjack9495
    @flapjack9495 Жыл бұрын

    Nice demo, but it sounded like there was a kitten in the background and I wish we'd seen it!

  • @paulluongo2756
    @paulluongo2756 Жыл бұрын

    How do I get the code for the lock if I'm locked out of my house??

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have a lishi pick/decoder that works with your keyway you pick then decode the lock pins

  • @mccrackenphillip
    @mccrackenphillip Жыл бұрын

    I mean its not that Hard if some cases if u can get the core apart or even re key or re cut a key using the pins u have

  • @mccrackenphillip

    @mccrackenphillip

    Жыл бұрын

    Trying to get into B&B LockSmith here in CAL there messing around so I might look else were for work

  • @scotts4125

    @scotts4125

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mccrackenphillip Come to Florida I am looking for an automotive locksmith. We will train.

  • @patmurphy3410
    @patmurphy3410 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer Schlage but I have both

  • @davidlaw9686
    @davidlaw9686 Жыл бұрын

    Good idea, no need to spend a >1k to buy a machine.

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    You should if your a locksmith. But this video is targeted towards cutting a key on spot like when you decode a kwikset smart key lock with the scope- but it’s nice having a variety of tools that can accomplish the same thing

  • @DanielSt143
    @DanielSt1438 ай бұрын

    i cant find: "Proxlock 3D Printed Key Cutter guide" anywhere can you help? plz

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    7 ай бұрын

    They are on eBay

  • @DanielSt143

    @DanielSt143

    7 ай бұрын

    can find them @@thewhittierlocksmith121

  • @georgevanvalkenburg2560
    @georgevanvalkenburg2560 Жыл бұрын

    EZPZ...........................................................!

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre Жыл бұрын

    For the love of god, do not repeat again and again what you are going to do. Just do it.

  • @rmsg7504

    @rmsg7504

    10 ай бұрын

    I like the repeated instructions, its how I learn myself.

  • @patriotreno6279
    @patriotreno6279 Жыл бұрын

    Why do you keep repeating not a child here

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    so the concepts stick

  • @paulricelli5520
    @paulricelli5520 Жыл бұрын

    🟥 I used to have a kit like that but I lost it in a boating accident

  • @thewhittierlocksmith121

    @thewhittierlocksmith121

    Жыл бұрын

    Sucks!!

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