How to Make a "Cookie Dough" Forge (Starlite Part 3)
In this video I show how to make a forge using a kitchen-made fireproof lining. Thanks to Bespoke Post for sponsoring this video. New subscribers can get 20% off their first box with code NIGHTHAWK here: bspk.me/nighthawk
If you missed my previous video about homemade intumescent coatings (starlite) check it out here: • History of a Lost Supe...
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-Ben
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If you missed my previous video about DIY fire resistant coatings and the history of Starlite you may want to check it out here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yn2WucOmoMSrk7A.html
@steelcannibal
3 жыл бұрын
I was curious about this very application after watching your video on starlite.
@christkandosii3337
3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to get it hot enough to melt copper?
@MrMatthewPR
3 жыл бұрын
Somehow you got me to sit through the entire sponsorship. I think I was just waiting for the parrot :)
@Nighthawkinlight
3 жыл бұрын
@@christkandosii3337 I'm not sure. That's a lot tougher challenge than aluminum.
@TheOrganicartist
3 жыл бұрын
@nightHawkinLight not sure if you are anywhere near new england, i frequently run across access to strange materials and components from my job (recycling technology, a lot of weird edge case tech flows through). if you are in my region i might be able to help source materials for projects.
3:13 Let's turn on the torch *stares into my soul*
@Nighthawkinlight
3 жыл бұрын
O_o
@saltymashedpotatoes
3 жыл бұрын
He did the mind meld on all of us.
@kaptein1247
3 жыл бұрын
that was very scary
@ptbird1
3 жыл бұрын
Brother....
@rodparker7436
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
Your channel is like 5 minute crafts two good to be true stuff, but it is true and the most awesome thing ever
@Geerice
3 жыл бұрын
8 minute, 34 second crafts
@ieatbatteries9998
3 жыл бұрын
Except this channel is actually good unlike five minute crafts
@bingingwithbabishisamazing4034
3 жыл бұрын
@@ieatbatteries9998 exactly
@idontmindpineappleonpizza8825
3 жыл бұрын
*too
@Meanslicer43
3 жыл бұрын
5 minute crafts is full of BS, half of the stuff they do makes no sense at all. If i had to say this channel reminds me more of what King Of random was when Grant (RIP) Was doing the projects.
I'm a knife-maker and when you first showed us your version of starlight, a forge liner was my first thought, but I never got around to testing it. Glad it will work.
@ghostcraft9343
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@BSpinoza210
3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get a chance to try this out? I'm curious about the temperature it can reach. Can you actually forge weld with it?
@zproducts6080
3 жыл бұрын
@@BSpinoza210 I have not had time myself, unfortunately. In process of moving workshops now, but I imagine the main issue would be outer layers flaking off. Still, it should work well enough and would be cheap and easy to replace
@littleh4xx0r
3 жыл бұрын
i thought about using it for selective hardening, and maybe a plate for stuff to cool on. i got a background in chemistry and am working on a batch right now, i modified it a little by adding magnesiumphosphates. quite excited how it will turn out.
@zproducts6080
3 жыл бұрын
@@littleh4xx0r let me know how it goes! I use a product called NuClay for differential hardening. Works great and dries quick. It's also water based, so it cleans up well afterwards, too!
I've always wanted to test out some metal melting but never got enough money to buy a decent forge. I'll definitely test this out! You're a genius.
@riuphane
3 жыл бұрын
The King of Random has a really good, cheap build, but you should invest in a good crucible. I've been using mine for over 3 years. It needs a little repair (this video inspired me to try this putty for patching), but works really well.
@ChristianMoore1227
3 жыл бұрын
riuphane do you mind sharing where you bought it from? I also want to melt some metal but I don’t have a good crucible, and don’t know much about what brands/sellers are good.
@riuphane
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianMoore1227 I got a MorganMMS Salamander Super Crucible and it has treated me very well. I don't remember where I bought it from, somewhere online for about $50 and it's pretty big, especially for hobby work
@forgedinferno5033
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianMoore1227 try making your own crucible, it's worked for me
@satansbarman
3 жыл бұрын
@@forgedinferno5033 what do you make it out of? I've been wondering if tin cans would work for melting aluminium
Biscuit recipe looked lit until he added borax. :D
@francois__
3 жыл бұрын
Victorians actually added borax to milk to make it appear more fresh. They did many other things that seem crazy today.
@aether222
3 жыл бұрын
You can actually eat modest amounts of Borax. It has the same LD50 as salt.
@robertoaguiar6230
2 жыл бұрын
Still thinking about somehting to replace borax in places where it's not a common house product
@Sk0lzky
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah, replace the soda with its heat processed sister and it's essentially Chinese alkaline noodle dough
@EternalShadow1667
Жыл бұрын
@@robertoaguiar6230 yeah I think Borax is illegal in some places too (UK and EU) right?
Paint Can works great for this!
@AbjectPermanence
3 жыл бұрын
I think TKOR made a backyard forge something like this out of a small trash can. Metal buckets are available too.
@BackYardScience2000
3 жыл бұрын
Metal buckets seem to work best. Good and thick metal, sturdy, small enough to still have a handle, easy to drill into, etc. All of my new furnaces are of the metal bucket type and all different sizes. The paint cans also seem to degrade quickly compared to the metal buckets. Most large metal buckets are fairly cheap as well.
@brianh.000
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@moneypenni1694
3 жыл бұрын
it's a good way to upcycle them,better than simply throwing them into a dump....thank you.
@dougelick8397
2 жыл бұрын
@@BackYardScience2000 Be careful though. If they're zinc coated (galvanized), the fumes can make you ill, I.E., "metal fume fever".
Oh heck yeah. This is super handy information to know, super useful, super cheap (like omfg how is it possible it only takes like $15-$20 and like 20 minutes to make this stuff?!) Thank you an absolute ton for sharing things like this with all of us. I've already written down the recipe for this homemade 'Starlite' recipe into my mad scientists notebook as well, and again thank you!
@Nighthawkinlight
Жыл бұрын
You should check out my old video on a soup can forge also. I used a plaster/sand lining in that one that I think holds up a bit better that this.
FYI. If you can’t find a metal coffee can you can definitely find a metal paint can. They sell empty ones at home improvement stores if need be.
One trick to extending the foam life would be to coat it with low sodium milk of magnesia. It will dry and fire to a magnesia coating. Magnesia made in this way will have a melting point in excess of 2500C. Adding a little borax will lower the melting point but make the coating more durable in handling. You can apply several layers and build up a very durable coating.
@__WJK__
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@YounesLayachi
2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@fabiohofer2160
Жыл бұрын
what if instead of water I use milk of magnesia?
@lrmackmcbride7498
Жыл бұрын
@@fabiohofer2160 good question
@drewlop
3 ай бұрын
That's an interesting idea. Might try it out if I ever make one of these. I wonder if there could be a counteracting effect where the higher melting point of the magnesia ends up inhibiting the intumescence of the starlite. Definitely would be interesting to see it tested :)
Ben, I just want to take a sec to thank you for all for time, hard work , awesome content and overall just being a cool guy. Thanks for the Education and entertaining content love your channel man and might I say I love you as well!!! Keep on trucking man thanks again!!
I love that you took the time to create ur own take on starlite and made the recipe free, public knowledge. Thank you so much
Who would win at reinventig starlite? A couple of billion dollar chemical corporations or a youtuber with 20$ of grocery items.
@vaishalipatil712
3 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@drkastenbrot
3 жыл бұрын
I doubt large companies would invest much into starlite because it is not as great as proper industrial insulators.
@BackYardScience2000
3 жыл бұрын
@@drkastenbrot it might not be as durable or as long lasting, but it would work as a cheap, temporary fix until the proper insulator can be found and installed in the case of a repair. But then again, it's not really something that a company would try to patent because anyone can easily make it and nobody would actually buy it if they can easily make it. Also, the question wasn't would they, but rather who would win.
@torjones1701
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously, the youtuber with a $20. massive corporations are too tied up in red tape and procedures.
@AnttiBrax
3 жыл бұрын
@@torjones1701 That's a lame take that doesn't really withstand critical examination. It's intellectually dishonest to suggest that Boeing's scientists couldn't have figured this out when your only evidence is that they are not using it. The logical conclusion from what we know would be "the material does not have properties that would make it useful for Boeing's business."
Used this to build a forge and used it as a furnace too: I was able to melt silver in this thing! This is amazing, paired it with some cuttlefish casting and literally anyone can get going
@arunbirla9053
Жыл бұрын
U mean u didn’t use a crucible and used the forage as lining ??? Wasn’t liquid silver stuck on to it … how much did u put in before melting and how much weight did u get back ??
@eddieelizabethhitler3259
8 ай бұрын
@@arunbirla9053 I assume the cuttlefish would serve as the crucible for "cuttlefish casting", no?
Nighthawk you're brilliant and the smartest youtuber I have ever watched, I love how you are so humble that you answer our questions and comments, and not only educate us on how to make something but also to explain every little detail of the science behind it, I truly love you.
Your commitment to accessibility makes me so happy.
You made a fantastic video here. “Inexpensive” here really was inexpensive! Thanks!! I really enjoy all your videos.
I like the new profile picture👍🏼
Great channel my uncle was born out of his time, and memories of him in his workshop garage came flooding back he would have loved your info.
What a good channel, I mean, really. I was thinking about making one of them forges a tad while ago after looking at the starlite video, now nobody's gonna convince me otherwise, thank you for the tutorial, good fella
I've been thinking about trying out blacksmithing and for starters I'm worried to overspend if the experience doesn't turn out positive and i end up moving on, this would certainly help keep cost down and ever since you published the very first starlite video I've thought of this specific application for it. I really am grateful for your work on this matter. Hopefully this will be one of many projects around this material, cheers!
In my DevilForge, I can have molten aluminum in 12-15 minutes from cold.I have a few videos on my channel of it melting and the speeds it will melt. I will have to try your design out for some smaller projects. It looks like a super easy and cheap design!
I've had all the materials to start black smithing except a forge. Thank you so much for showing me this method to get my passion off the ground!!!!
The moment I saw the starlite video I immediately wondered if it could be used in a forge. I'm really glad you tried it! Thanks
Thank you, thank you so much. I was just getting into knife making and was trying to see how to get a forge for cheap when I got the notification for this video.
@Nighthawkinlight
3 жыл бұрын
This is a good start, and i also have an old video about making a soup can forge that you might be interested in. That one used a plaster and sand lining which works well.
@AnzelmoficationRCP
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nighthawkinlight thanks I'll definitely check it out
Great to see an application of all of your experiments!
@Nash4Nashville
3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that i just suggested he combine it with his gasifier!
I have binge watching your channel lately and to see a new video just now come out is just amazing
Your videos are amazing. I am all for cost effective DIY and these kind of projects are right up my alley. I tip my hat to you sir.
Drawback: Your neighbors will think youre bad at backing because it smells like burned cookies.
@maxwuup2152
3 жыл бұрын
love how the german comes through, backing haha
@AnttiBrax
3 жыл бұрын
Can you add cinnamon to the dough for that special Christmas feeling?
@Asdayasman
3 жыл бұрын
Must suck how you misspelt "baking", and you can't fix it 'cause NightHawk hearted your comment, and if you edited it, the heart would go away.
@__WJK__
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asdayasman - Easy on the ASSumption... could just as well be an auto-correct oversight.
@Asdayasman
3 жыл бұрын
@@__WJK__ Oh dude I _love_ ass.
I will have to build this melt some aluminum next weekend. Thank you for a great video.
I actually made a much smaller furnace a while ago when you released your first video on the subject. The forge worked using a wax fire, and got hot enough to melt small amounts on aluminum foil that I left inside it. It was only a test forge though, and was very small. The insulation worked amazingly though, I could even pick it up while it was on!
Sir, you are truly a GOD send. I have needed the information on almost all of the videos you have shown for my huge project of making a derigible. I will definitely share my ideas and videos with you when I start the project.
Thank you for carrying on The King of Random's torch, sort to speak.
Just what I needed!
One of the best video series on KZread
As a long time blacksmith who started making gas forges in the early 1980's and who made a large variety of things, I look for sturdiness in a forge liner. If I can't maneuver odd shaped pieces in and out of the forge without damaging the forge badly, it is useless for a lot of the work I've done. That said, it would be useful for forges used for a lot of knife making and work that is easily put in and taken out of the forge. I will make a forge for small work and see how it works for me. Great idea! I rally like your experiments.
This would be great for protecting areas nearby a repair in way of cutting torch (blue wrench, LOL) or welding. Also, an easy ablative replacement for harpoons or similar rocket launching at the backup structure where flame impingement occurs.
Thanks for making this video! I'll be doing a side-by-side comparison soon where I test a homemade intumescent-coated forge against my Hell's Forge single-burner forge, so when that happens, I'll update this comment. Keep on rocking! :)
I have always wanted to make one of these. I’ll try it sometime because I actually have time. Thank you!
I was thinking about how practical this was when i saw your other video, glad to see you talking about it
I've been calling this formula "hawklite" privately for a while now
I'll definitely build that. I've wanted to build a forge for a long time but I don't have access to refractory materials or even plaster of paris for the DIY refractory. I do have access to baking ingredients and borax so I'll be building this awesome forge in the very near future.
@indigogoigorgo7992
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, where do you live?
@bastienguilbaud5768
3 жыл бұрын
Far away from any type of material shop. I don't have a car and due to Corona, the bus is reserved to people who actually need it to go to work. Which is not my case.
@indigogoigorgo7992
3 жыл бұрын
@@bastienguilbaud5768 oh, that's a shame, hopefully we can get a better quality of life for everyone who needs it soon. I dont know about you, but I'm sure ready. In the meantime, for materials you can't obtain perhaps you could get a friend or family member to mail/ fed-ex you what you need. Best of luck.
Your videos are always amazing and very educational always learning something new from all your videos keep up the awesome work you do
How timely. Just this week my sister was telling me she wants to do a one-off small bronze cast. I'll definitely pass this video on to her.
_and when you're done forging, it doubles as a tasty snack!_
@Scigatt
3 жыл бұрын
Found CodysLab's alt account.
@chrishayes5755
3 жыл бұрын
you know theres one guy out there who is gonna take this literally and eat some
@markdavid110
3 жыл бұрын
Like bread from a toaster. Just spread some peanut butter on it. Literally! I'm that guy. Not.
You give ted Cruz and birds a good name. But all kidding aside thank you for spreading knowledge your a great teacher.
I've been wanting to make knives for a long while and you've just given me the perfect opportunity thank you so much
Excellent advice. I’ll use this for sure. Keep up the great content, I enjoy it very much
When you did your first "starlight" video this was my first thought. "Can I line my forge with this?"
BREAKING NEWS: Man makes an indestructible compound using grocery items Edit: No, but really, you're one of kind! Just continue this endless journey, can't wait to see where you get!
You never fail to amaze me! Thank you for sharing
Thank you for this! Now I have yet another project during my time off work!
"About a thousand grams" if only there were a word for that 🤔😂
@lorenzoparedes2306
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't want to frighten the people who think metric measurements are part of a subversive plot.
@hallobre
3 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Paredes how would a kilogram scare someone?
@lorenzoparedes2306
3 жыл бұрын
@@hallobre In years past, there was a plan to switch the country to the metric system. There was great opposition.
@rwbimbie5854
3 жыл бұрын
"Tupound"
@lorenzoparedes2306
3 жыл бұрын
@@rwbimbie5854 Yes. The fear was that it was part of a 'plot' to take over the country, as it was when there were efforts to put fluoride in drinking water. Nowadays, the bull***t is that if you get put in the hospital because of Covid 19, you'll die, the real cause of death being that you were intubated, not for any other reason.
Very easy and the materials to make it are cheap 👍
AMAZING!!!! Thank you so much for sharing, This will come in very handy for me instead of heating up my big kiln for quick tempering/ & or melting of metals!
This is the solution I've been looking for to eventually cheaply try aluminum casting with my used soda cans to make rings. Thanks!
Hurrah! I've been waiting for this, Still want to make a portable camping stove with this but I think it would be too fragile.
@Nighthawkinlight
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, it might work for a few trips at least. I don't know that a camping stove really needs a fireproof lining though. A normal steel can usually does fine.
@BackYardScience2000
3 жыл бұрын
You could take the ingredients with you camping and just mix it and apply to the can when you get to your location. That seems like it would be the easiest way to do it and make sure that it doesn't fall out in route.
@MrRofivi
3 жыл бұрын
I guess it would work great as the insulation of a portable rocket stove, not receiving as much direct heat and beign lighter than other materials I've seen used. Plus you only need small twigs and they go a long way
Wow. After years of watching you you finally changed your profile picture. I never thought thats ever happen
Great stuff. I love watching your sharing such knowledge
Wow, this video went up the day after I started looking for forges and how to make them for my new workshop that I’m building, thanks! Now I can use this until I get a proper forge
Alternatively, for the can, you can buy empty paint cans at home improvement stores. Great video as always!
@littledabwilldoya9717
2 жыл бұрын
Can find them at craft stores, also- Hobby Lobby, Michael’s, etc.🙂
It usually takes my propane powered blast furnace about 7-8 minutes to warm up enough to melt about 50g of aluminum.
used the recipe without borax as temporary insulate when fixing wood stove. worked like a charm.
Love the new profile picture, love the video, I can't wait to see what else you can come up with for day to day uses of starlite
Hey if anyone cares, I’m coming up with a cheap concept to pursue knifemaking with that combines my specialties by building an induction heater with starlite on the inside of the copper coils and a MAPP gas flame inside. Haven’t seen a hybrid like that before and I’ve been trying to use starlite for this purpose for a few months now
@chrishayes5755
3 жыл бұрын
I don't fully understand your plan but copper will melt under forge temps
@matthewlehman7937
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishayes5755 induction coils will melt ferrous materials that are inside them without heating the coils themselves using high frequency AC
Great I think I'll try it, it's been several months that I'd like to try to melt aluminum and cast it in sand. Do you know how many runs/hours does the 'starlite coating' last in usual conditions ? Thank you a lot !
@Nighthawkinlight
3 жыл бұрын
It will probably last several hours (I would guess 4ish hrs) of constant run time, but I think repeated heating and cooling cycles will shorten its lifespan.
Refreshing to watch
Great video! For anyone struggling finding a large can, Baby powder cans work great!
I wonder what happens if you burn this stuff without oxygen. Like making charcoal =).
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically it should work fine, as long as you have a sufficiently powerful heat source that doesn't need oxygen. Should even be more durable in the absence of oxygen (as long as you don't have some other oxidizer).
@NymNymO2
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio I think so too. I was just wondering if this process gives the material some special attributes. It will definitely not smoke or smell after the process.
@jogandsp
3 жыл бұрын
That's essentially what he already did. The reason this stuff lasts is because it's burning in a relatively low oxygen environment. It would burn extremely fast in an environment with 50-100% oxygen
@NymNymO2
3 жыл бұрын
@@jogandsp maybe. But Experiments are fun and many discoveries were made by practical applications.
@NickHorvath
3 жыл бұрын
In theory it should last longer without oxygen. If your heat source is fuel rich the carbon won't readily burn to CO2.
I will try this trick i am willing to make Doremon pendant since long (with zinc)
i just made my home furnace with portland cement as a lining with fire brick. it is cool when melting but super hot to touch afterwards. I might try this one as a lining to reduce heat transfer to the metal casing. hopefully works as intended. thank you for your video! 🎉
Why is this getting so little views?? This is one of the coolest and most useful pieces of content on youtube and it only has 65k views??!! On a channel of 1.6 MILLION! This is one of youtube's fatal flaws; not promoting great content when "the algorithm" doesn't deem it so.
*GOD BLESS THE NERDS !!!*
When nerds start to become Doomsday Preppers.
@jacoblaszakovits3035
3 жыл бұрын
Name calling is mature
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacoblaszakovits3035 doomsday prepping isn't a bad thing
@jacoblaszakovits3035
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 and I never said it was bad in fact my family has a house with three generators for that reason
Thanks for this amazing idea I can’t wait to make my own I’ve been wanting to get a forge for years now but never had the money
This video is SO practical, now I’m finally gonna have a forge! SoI’m binge-watching Nighthawkinlight videos since re-discovering them after the algorithm took them out of my feed. This is the third today, and once again is supremely useful. I’ve wanted a forge for occasional use for a long time, but the hassle of firebricks or commercial refractory mix, finding & modifying a big steel container, etc, etc kept me from making one. This is so dead-simple that I could whip one out tomorrow. It’s finally something I’ll actually do. Super-kudos and thanks (again) to Nighthawkinlight!
@Nighthawkinlight
7 ай бұрын
You might want to use a plaster/sand lining instead of the starlight. I found this doesn't last long. Tkor has a good video about making a good forge lining from plaster
Instructions were wrong I blew up my building and the government has me
Ive been getting materials to cast copper so this is a great starting idea!
I hated my messy sand and plaster coffee can forge. Now I may be able to go back to some small item forging and metal melting. Great work, Sir.
This is a fantastic idea for my use case of metal melting. All linings degrade over time, and low cost is important to me at this point at the expense of somewhat lower durability
Thank you for this channel. You make me save money. ❤❤❤
Thank you again, this is what I was looking for.
Been watching your vids for some time now - YOU ROCK! Y'got yourself a new subscriber! :) Quality stuff!
Awesome work Ben
Very well done. I'll have to remember this.
Lovely. From your last video i took idea and i have make my own 12 v soldering iron and i use your putty and its work so Good more then i imagine. Thanks for wonderful idea.
After watching your previous video on this I was wondering if I could make a paint can forge. I thought it wouldn't work because the insulating layer would burn through too quickly. Thanks for proving that it does work. I just bought a torch for this exact project the other day
That is awesome, It reminds me about the carbon residue built up on the bottom of pot and pan,they serve as thermal insulation too but last long.
1:15 that cans also one that you can buy for canning foods I want to say it’s a number 10. Thank you for the video.
Love the content not to mention the research! For the soft flame i adore using rosebud torch tips :)
This is amazing, I’ve wanted to try metalworking but didn’t want to put a lot of money into it so even if this isnt permanent solution it’s still a great one, especially since I don’t have to go buy firebricks or anything fancy
This is perfect for me, I work at a restaurant, all the materials, including the cans, are readily available!
Well made video. Looking forward to the next one
That's really awesome. Well done! Great information!
Thank you for this video 👍
Cool idea and even cheaper than making one with rock wool which also works well.
What a beautiful knife!
Oh that's awesome! I think one of these would pair well with my miniature smokeless fire pit I made out of 2 coffee cans.
I may have to build one of these soon. After I get some of my backlogged projects done
love this channel since first time i'm here!