How to Make a Carbon Fiber Panel- Wet Lay Technique
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Part 2, vacuum bagging: • How to Vacuum Bag Carb...
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Thank you for the demonstration its clear and easy...no crazy music is also appreciated 😅
@The-truth-is-valuable.
Жыл бұрын
That, I think, is very much underrated. By the time the 'tutorial/ episode' is over, you so irritated by the (frequent) irritating music, that you do not want to watch it any more,or anything else on that channel.
Great video! Just a tip I've seen elsewhere for those cheap bristle brushes, if you super glue the bristles by the metal part you won't have any strands fall out anymore. Hope it helps!
Bro, YOU ROCK, THANK YOU FOR BEING A FELLOW FABRICATOR. I FABRICATE MOTORCYCLE RACE FAIRING KITS. I CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TONYOUR SITE AND GET SOME TIPS AND IDEAS.
I need a low seat back for my wheelchair...I am so going to have a go at this. The bought ones are £600! Awesome.
Thanks for explaining the "release". I knew there was a method to that part of the process no one else is explaining.
You are the best person I see on KZread other people never show any thing for no one can learn
Good Job AJ. Straight forward, no BS, no over the top technical tems, calm and well presented. Couldn't have done any better myself.
@jorgemanalang6373
Жыл бұрын
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wow, that underside looks amazing!
Awesome video, AJ. Going to be making a 3 layer sheet soon to cut into pieces and use to block off openings on the front bumper.
Great video, very informative for beginners!
Awesome! Thanks so much for doing this. I don't do enough with CF to invest in the vacuum system, so this is kind of perfect.
You just earned a new subscriber for this. 👍🏽
AJ, great vid and you made it not intimidating!!! Thanks for sharing and helping others....
Nice. I might have to consider this for an undertray.
Straight forward I wish great success you are a good clean mind person first view and I subscribed
Thanks for posting, great info
Spasibo ! So cool technik 👍 I think it will be cool to put same mirror on top for over night.
Very helpful videos and extremely informative!
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it helped.
This is great. You should consider putting a linear way guide on both sides of your table. You might even be able to get away with angle iron or a box tube. It will be faster and give you a nice straight edge without thinking. If you want you can even set it up with a CNC length input.
Gret tips for us car buffs that are not building F1 quality, nor need to! Thanks
super helpful!
Dude, I’ve been waiting for this video for a while. Thanks for the info. I’ve been so scared to do it myself
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
Start small and learn from your mistakes. There will be many.
Very nice and informative AJ. Need to update your outro "Be sure to smash that notification bell, because subscriptions don't mean a thing" ;)
thank you for video
Awesome
Danke.!!
Very nice video very helpfull tks for posting it. You mentionned most of the time 3k is being used. If I want to cover an interior part of my car how many layer of 3k I should do? Tks
Looks to me like a kitchen roller, like you use for flattening dough would work well for this.
I'm loving this channel and hatching a plan to start doing my own interior panels for my car's interior. I really think a matte finish would look even better however. I've just done some reading and seen people suggest either sanding the gloss finish back or applying a matte clear coat. Do you have any go to methods for a matte or satin finish?
Can you do a skinning demo, small parts and trimming would be awesome
Very good vidéo Thank you ! How is joint between the layers ,strong or so so ? Can It be better by adding pressure instead of vacuum ? Thank s
Great primer AJ. I would love to see you expand on this, maybe a wet layup with foam core to add rigidity. Cheers mate
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
Literally the exact same steps, just a core in the middle.
@briansexton6695
3 жыл бұрын
When your doing it with the foam core do you weigh the core with the carbon?
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
@@briansexton6695 depends on the core.
@briansexton6695
3 жыл бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero what core would you recommend for a flat floor section?
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
@@briansexton6695 some sort of foam. Maybe a honeycomb would do well. Balsa wood is a decent cheap option. It’s really up to you.
It's fantastic! At the last step, you used a small roller to work out the air bubbles. Would you kindly tell me what kind roller it is? Does that roller have needles to pierce air bubbles? Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Great video. However, I have a question, can you set screws into the epoxy/fiber to install onto aluminum parts? Or will the epoxy adhere to aluminum? I'm making a box for my H-D trike that looks like a 32 Ford coupe, but instead of a trunk or rumble seat, I'm doing an aluminum roll up door, like a roll top desk, and need a way to attach the frame without seeing the fasters. Thanks
Have you experimented with resins that come close to a heat source? Like a exhaust cover or a high heat area of the engine bay. If so can you recommend a resin what will handle those high heat cycles. Great vids!!
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, sort of. I have some intake tubes on the cold side of my turbos and intercooler end tanks. All done with basic epoxy. Never tinkered with specific high heat stuff tho.
Good video... I want to ask you a question? you don't put any release agent on the glass?? before applying the resin?? greetings
Wow way over a welders pay grade, I'll just buy parts of the internet... Good video.
If you want to prevent the pin holes on the surface you can pre-wet the fabric before putting it on the surface.
Cool
Did the oven get out air bubbles? Ive heard of people using a heat gun or torch to get out bubbles. A close up of the finished product would have been cool. Fantastic video!
so amazing the video is, can you do one for us?
If you wanted the top side to have a glossy finish as well. Would you just use a non porous teflon coated peel ply on top?
Bro, you make this look so damn simple but I've had issues in the past. Granted my first attempt had crevices and bends but I was attempting to lay CF over a dash bezel. I failed lol
Was curious. Are you using carbon that has a veil on the back of the carbon? It doesn’t look like it fray when you cut it. Great videos.
good afternoon where do you purchase your carbon materials and I like the information abut the different grades of CARBON! I AM NEW TO THIS SO I AM LEARNING WOULD like to try this method to do a sheet of carbon to make a front spliter for my car!
i build a lot of carbon wings for drag car always wet lay never vacuum bag. i clear gel first . everyone say we build the best carbon wing. do you ever use carbon with weave stabilization ? i like it for the first layer
Hey AJ, love your videos! For a DIY guy like myself, would you recommend doing wet lay with curved and more complex molds? Or at that point would pooling of the resin be too much of an issue affecting strength and weight.
@RodrigoNascimentoMattos
3 жыл бұрын
its kinda hard to achieve perfect part without vacuum if the mold is too complex.
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
Wet lay on curved stuff, or anything with tight corners is a pain. I’d only try it if it was your only option.
If you arent getting a good carbon-to-epoxy ratio doing wet layup then you simply need practice. Too many people use vacuum bagging as a crutch to being crappy at laminating. A good way to practice is laminate with fiberglass cloth. You will be better able to see sections that are too heavy or too light and with time develop a feel for it. When done right it should have a very consistent canvas like look.
What would you recommend for an outer shell (canopy) for an electric camper)?
So do you ever use prepreg material? I find it much easier to work with but it does have a short shelf life if you dont have a proper storage freezer
This video from your old shop? Thanks for posting this... been wanting to try making a few panels.
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
New shop from last weekend.
Aj good day i would like to make free diving fins for ocean diving please temm me what rasin to used epoxy or vinerlister rasin thank you
New sub here! Do you know what the strength of that piece is? or a comparable to another type of lay up? Thank you.
Please what can we use the carbon fiber for? Thank you
Hello is it okey to make a frontsplitter with a 10mm foamcore with these technik.
I'm looking for information on doing a one piece front end
Where do you recommend buying carbon sheets from? And do they sell them in 60” widths?
Just a quick question , can you just lay carbon fiber over a fiberglass hood and epoxy it to it ? Is this a form of wet lay .? Does it need to be 2 layers?
A 1'' paint roller works best for a project like this.
🥂class thinks
can I just using only PVA on to the mold/mirror?
Hello, I am a follower of your channel, I want to learn how to make pieces, where do you buy your material, can you pass me the information, thank you
hey bro..I have problem with a little dent on surface of the sheet when it cure...why and how I can I avoid that problem?thank bro
Awesome video AJ! I have a question for you, do you know how people lay two pieces of carbon fabric down lets say in the center of a hood for an example and get it perfectly straight?
@ajhartmanaero
2 жыл бұрын
I do. And funny enough, literally today am recording laying up a video where I have to put seam down the center of a hood. I will do a video specific on it in the near future.
@KDD8
2 жыл бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero Hahaha thats awesome! I am subbed can you let me know when its up please and thank you!
Thanks for the video. Any problem with using a non shed mini roller for application of the epoxy? Come from a paint background and Wooster makes a nice 5/16 nap micro fiber roller that doesn’t shed and is not too expensive. Couple bucks a piece.
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen that method used but no personal experience.
Great info. What was the final thickness of that sheet using those two fabrics? How much will vacuum bagging change the final thickness?
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
About .040”. Vac will be about .035”. I get into vacuum bagging in the next one and will be up in a few days.
Which epoxy from us composites this is?
Now I can build me a carbon fibre coffin hehehe
Trying to work out how to add a thread to carbon to screw a lid on ?
whats the exact reasoning on why mirrrors are used?
I’m looking to try do some car wheels Will sand blast it first and may add sand grit in the base coat to help stick Going to skin it and put in a vacuum pack to help stick. Have you seen anyone do this or know of any problems
Boss .What is the name of the liquid applied to it .Can you tell me .
Amiguito, que tal te salio de poros??
where do you buy your carbon fiber rolls at?
Do you make custom size panels? I am looking for a 6" x 36" x 1/8 inch panel or 2 x 3" x 36" x 1/8 panels.
A close up would have been interesting
So no release on the mirror?
I’ve got some floor panels in my airplane that are roughly 1/4” thick plywood. I’d love to replace them with some carbon fiber panels. Would a wet lay work well for a 1/4” thick panel? Would I be better off to vacuum bag the panel? Thanks
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
I’d use a core and vacuum bag.
@BellyUpFish
10 ай бұрын
@@ajhartmanaeroWhat would you suggest as core material?
Really appreciate it bro. Question Does it need to degass the resin hardener epoxy?
@ziegfredpanen6623
Жыл бұрын
Additional Do in need to put it in an oven to cure? Or ill set it for a 24 hours period of time?
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
@@ziegfredpanen6623 no to both. It can room temp cure.
Do you ever use lantor soric in wet lay? I’ve been playing with in on small pieces with some luck. Vacuum infusion is beyond my current level of patience
@ajhartmanaero
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people use it with wet lay but personally have not. I only use it with infusions.
Hey, on a resin infusion for a new edge hood, how much epoxy do you use for the inside skin and outside skin? I’m about to make my first attempt and I’m worried I might not buy enough, although it’s expensive 😅
@ajhartmanaero
2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh depends on how you Kay it up but 4000 grams should be plenty
@Diamondsintherubble
2 жыл бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero perfect, thank you!
Good explanation. But when ever working with fiber fabrics you should use gloves when touching the fibercloth to prevent leaving grease from your hand on the cloth. It provides you with a better final product.
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
How greasy are your hands?
AJ, it can be confusing when you speak of Tow size 4,6,10 k etc instead of aerial weight Oz/yd2 or gr/m2 to describe your CF fabrics
Could you wet lay with a lantor soric core, and then add the vacuum pump to suck out exces resin?
@ajhartmanaero
6 ай бұрын
There’s other cores more appropriate for that process.
@rubenrobles7275
6 ай бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero ok. Which ones?
my epoxy resin write 1:1, can i mix 2:1 epoxy and harderner
@ajhartmanaero
2 жыл бұрын
why would you not mix it how the epoxy manufacturer suggests? Just follow what they say.
I've worked with E-glass for decades, but with carbon fiber, it's not transparent when wetted out. So how do you know where the bubbles are that need stripling out to the sides?
@ajhartmanaero
5 ай бұрын
Experience
Not to sound like a Complainer, but should I have a auto body Respirator on when dealing with all of the Chemicals Involved.?
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
Polyester probably yeah. Epoxy, not really necessary.
Only missing the thikness of the end product .
No pressure is required for the penny roller.
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Thickness of this panel?
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember exactly. Maybe .030”? Video was just for a demo so didn’t use much material.
Isn’t your epoxy mixed by volume and not by weight? Bit odd that you weigh it before it’s mixed.
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
It’s obviously mixed by weight if I use a scale.
@kizzjd9578
Жыл бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero I’ve never seen a epoxy mixed by weight, hence why I asked.
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
@@kizzjd9578 the nice thing about mixing by weight is you can reuse the cups with volume marks many times.
Very good it’s definitely an art to make parts lol. Tell people it’s best to use epoxy resin for carbon fibre weave and not the polyester resin with cat mix. That’s a pain
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I have a Tesla Model 3. I want to replace all the panels on it with carbon DIY panels. Where can I buy the molds for the panels?
Aku ingin diberikan hadiah separuh five. UK 39 apakah boleh MASTER 😢😢❤❤😊
3k?12k?
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
Whatever your heart desires. Process is the same.
@stankrieger3598
Жыл бұрын
Kinda like fiberglass work? Were can I can I get the CF
@crawford323
Жыл бұрын
What is 3k?12k? As a total novice these terms are un understandable. Where would I find definitions to the jargon?
@ajhartmanaero
Жыл бұрын
@@crawford323 the thickness of the carbon strands that make up the fabric.
@crawford323
Жыл бұрын
@@ajhartmanaero Thank you very much for the professional reply. So many respond with rudeness or sarcasm.
So much n more then headache so teaching is crazy Dude be smart n learn time value okay If u can short n sweet ur subscribers number will be more
I'm putting together a high top for my van. I want to do glass or cf over 1.5" foam core sandwich. What's my best option for as light a weight as possible but still be ultra rigid (I'm mounting ac and solar panels as well as a cargo cage)? Thanks