The Rot Wagon's now on 29.9" tires + a 4" lift kit from SJR, so in combination with this strut lift it's now a total ~11" taller than stock! NOTE: This mod covers most ALL Subaru models from 92-07... with the exception of the odd rear suspension setup on Baja's & the 98+ Legacy's.

@drumkendrum

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 98 impreza wagon, would this swap also work on that year>

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Ken Kidd Yep!

@DavidPalmer_planeace222

5 жыл бұрын

How much power are you losing with the added rotational inertia of the tires?

@LoCdogAK47

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video man 👍🏻. Would this be the same process for an 05 Impreza wagon?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

@@DavidPalmer_planeace222 Not as much as I or any friends would've thought! The stock gearing is 4.11 if you can believe it! Some Foresters even have 4.44 gears & if I get a manual swapped in there that's what I'm after (other than the holy grail STI 6-speed).

I love that there's no editorial blathering on and on. Just wrenchin.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I try hard to keep that going for my videos! No need to shove my ugly mug in the lens when the subject is the vehicles themselves 👍

@chuckley54494

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 thank you. subbed for that

Kudos on not using power tools, not everyone has them so this appeals greatly to newcomers as well as enthusiasts with new projects.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks & yeah I had both electric & air power just a few steps away, but I figured most don't so why not try & film it that way.

@MyBacktrail

9 ай бұрын

@@Tinker1837 After I got a $200 Milwaukee impact wrench I will never go back lol. Forget all that wrenching.

@andersonattitude34

7 ай бұрын

It's funny cause I have cordless in packs and what not but something about just using hand tools lol

This might be the best how to car video of all time! Not one selfie cam!

This was background noise while I was pooping... then the hacksaw came out and now I’m subscribed!

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

It's a fitting if you think about it, because of the build starting out as a real piece of crap... and now a proper polished turd!

I think you just saved me about 2K on Rally suspension. only wanted a high lift for the looks! Cheers mate! :)

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Oh nice! Glad it was helpful, because for me it was one the biggest "bang for the buck" mods I've done in a while.

@anangelsarrow556

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Great video man.. You just did the same for me lol. I was about to spend over a grand.

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

@@anangelsarrow556 Glad you liked 👍

I dont even own an impreza but this video was supercool.

I did this once! I had a 97 Impreza wagon 2.2 5MT, and my idiot ex wife blew up her 2002 Outback twice, which in those years they were riding in the forester struts, the elongated top hats gave that away. In 6 hours on the side of the street I swapped all 4 strut & mount assemblies, trailing arms brackets & brake assemblies, wheels & tires, and took the sway bars & end links but never got around to switching them. I got almost 4” of lift, it was an absolute blast on trails etc, and even without the sway bars it was still smooth on the highway. Eventually the trans gear shaft nut issue and body rot ruined the car, but it was SO much fun while it lasted and was absolutely worth the work it took.

I just bought a 2005 Legacy, couldn't find an Outback in proper shape for the money. I live in the Swedish countryside and I searched for the vanilla 35mm H&R lift spring videos and got tons of these el cheapo stuff. Love it😁 I feel like I never will stray from Subaru after my Subaru Cherry now is popped😂 Great video, I wish all videos and handbooks could show bolt/nut sizes👌

I just picked up a '97 Impreza and found both this video and your build thread. Thanks for the lift info and for the inspiration!

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help and glad these vids can be useful to others!

Something to keep in mind if you have to change the front control arms from Impreza to Foresters you're going to have to change the sway bar links as well

@kaneriseley3124

2 жыл бұрын

Hey do you know thr compatibility for control arms? I have an 06 impreza and I don't know if forester ones will fit

I'd also recommend keeping the nuts on the rear strut facing towards the engine, it has helped me in the past to get a good open area to get an impact on if you plan on leaving the suspension on for awhile and it may have the chance to rust.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I'll have to try that next time, because my usual default is to keep any exposed threads to the rear to try & save garbage building up on them.

Super excited to lift my Impreza this weekend. I have all the pieces finally 😎

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure you will like the way it looks / performs with the lift :)

this was very helpful. I need my 2013 Impreza raised because I'm having trouble getting the and out of the car as my knee arthritis worsens.

Watched this video roughly 5 weeks ago. My front struts were shot, doubtful that there was any fluid left at all. Finally decided to stop at the scrapyard yesterday and picked up forester struts. Installed them today and I have to say I’m thoroughly impressed! Can’t wait to go wheeling now. The only issue that I have now is rear camber and toe. Didn’t even attempt to loosen the eccentrics today. I can just feel those bolts snapping 😖 anyways I wanted to come back and thank you for this tutorial! I subscribed right after finding this video. Keep on trucking

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

They are pretty large & I haven't heard of them breaking, but once you get them loose it should sort that alignment out for you. Happy to hear the video was useful 👍

Tha ks gor the video i am doing exactly this to a 99 legacy outback sport, i think you have a point pivking up the stuff at a junkyard buy im looking at prices for new. As someone mentioned in order to retain the swaybar i think you have to use forester as well because it bends down the 1" or so more than the original (otherwise swaybar delete ftw)

awesome video man, got my sub. I've got a 90s subaru legacy on my channel that I've been converting into mad max style desert rig, about to weld some bars between the suspension coils as an improvised lift kit.

Love your projects, man. Sub'd.

@Tinker1837

6 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks!

And here I am fretting about little 10mm patches of surface rust on my '89 GL wagon..

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

The name "Rot Wagon" wasn't too hard to come up with for this project haha!

Hey I loved your video so much I gave it a go. Swapped out the coil overs for forester ones. Your video was a big help. Unfortunately my car did not take the lift well and I've got some serious popping and clunking coming out of my front diff. I've since lowered it and the popping has decreased but is still present. Drained the front diff and found some metal shavings, but the car is super old so they could've been there before the lift. I'm curious if you or anyone else encountered a similar problem? So far I've seen loads of videos and forums on doing the lift, but nothing about the problems I've experienced afterwards.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I would say that's definitely an issue it had previous, because the struts won't effect the diffs, but hopefully you can swap one in there to get it going again to enjoy the new lift height :)

Looks great with the extra lift. I'm sure that the new gap is going to be filled with more rubber, making it look and offroad even better. Thanks for the video.

@Tinker1837

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yes & this is just the start of the lifting, more to come!

Good vid, nice you didn’t use spacers for that extra lift, interesting you washed the car afterwards and not before to muse it easier to seal out, but you new your stuff, good work, looking at doing this to my 96 Impreza hatch. This is all the lift Id want on that, have other project on an older model for something bit more ruggered. Good vid cheers.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I ended up dropping the subframes 4" too after this strut swap. It's real tall now. Yeah it's perpetually dirty, especially with the farm roads out to that shop. It's an easy afternoon job to do this, even better if you have a good cordless kit.

Great way to make enough space to store your boot!

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Just couldn't resist poking fun at the shoe in the fender gap thing I used to see on forums :P

I enjoyed watching this. Thanks!

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked :)

Hey man! Love the video! So clear and fast! I have an 01 impreza I'm gonna lift... Curious on your build: everyone says drill a new hole for the rear top hats but you hit it with a quick file? No drill? Most people are using trailing arm spacers but your seemed like nothing extra was needed? HOW! LOL!

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's what I was trying to pull off with the edit. No drill! Round file is plenty & is less of a handful to perform. Sometimes, depending on the individual chassis, you'll run into caster issues (where the tires get out of center in the wheel well, aka too near door or bumper) & that is where you can slap in the Forester rear trailing-arm or front control-arms to solve the issue.

@wtls000

3 жыл бұрын

Tinker would you recommend just putting the extra parts on anyway to be safe?

For Subaru "sag butt" I always use polyurethane 3/8" or 1/2" cutting boards cut to fit. Just install them in between the strut and strut perch with longer high quality bolts. Easy enough to level out the lift using this method with 1-3 spacers depending on the amount of butt sag. Just need to find an Australian dual rage 5MT with an EG33!! Gotta love Japanese cars!

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I think I'll end up upgrading the springs & doing some custom bracing of the struts. Dual range would be awesome! That or I thought it could be fun to custom build an auto: with 4.44 gears, manual valve body with a "shift kit", center diff lock switch, & a modified interlock shifter :D

Loved this video man! Ever since my brother bought a Jeep with the same battlewagon style; I was thinking of doing the same thing to my 98 OBS as well, I'm guessing good used parts are the way to go for saving some cash ? I live in an area with rough roads and heavy weather (especially in the winter) so it'd be super helpful.

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked! Yes I use as much second hand parts as I can to keep costs down on this project.

Wow! Excellent video!

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope it's helpful :)

making older subarus look sick. i have a 98 outback legacy i'm replacing the whole front suspension soon, got it at 186k and it's at 216k. really curious what all is compatible with this thing, might just hit up the scrap yard instead of a stock replacement.

I have a quick question for you. I have a 1996 impreza outback sport, and I was going to put a lift on it with forester struts and an sjr lift kit. I bought 05 forester struts for it and was able to get the fronts on but the rears don’t seem to work. The rear knuckle and hub doesn’t move/bend enough to line the top bolt hole up. I can get the top mount studs in place as well as the bottom bolt hole. Would you happen to have any suggestions? Or should I try struts from the 97-02 model forester?

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Best trick with that is to remove the anti-sway bar link (or the bar itself)

Was thinking about doing this, i was just wondering how much the ride quality and handling gets effected after something like this, obviously theres gonna be more body roll but does it feel like your gonna flip when you take a corner a bit to quick? Also would this work well on the 05 impreza sedan?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Actually you should end up with the same if not less body roll due to the springs in those struts having a higher rate (more stiff) due to being from a heavier Forester.

Love the look

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

It's been fun having a "ratty style" project.

Did this with my 1999 Legacy Post Wagon. Home made Outback.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Nice! Exactly what I hope people do with theirs.

So, did you have to use the Forester front control arms to correct anything ? What about the trailing arms and brackets ? Thanks.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I did not, seems to be vehicle dependant. My suspension's caster setting was pretty good afterwards, so I saved them for trail spares. But I have heard of some vehicles very much needing them afterward, not sure what causes this.

@kennyLLC

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Awesome ! Mine is a wagon just like yours, so I think I'm good to go. This car was pampered and the springs are in good shape, so I just ordered 3" top-mount spacers (not for inside the springs coils) and the 1" 100mm to 114.3mm wheel spacer/adapters for my Kumho mudders. I also have a set of 2" thick 114mm to stack against the 1". They don't make them thicker than 1" for the 100 to 114.3 config', for some reason. Should still get a good ride, but I still may get the Forester parts one day and try to go up another 4". LOL ! Depends on how tough these spacers turn out to be.

Thank you!!! Hey does this same apply to the gc8 impreza? I have 2001 2.5rs. Can I still swap this easily?

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

Tinker- Had an issue with the sway bar bushings in the front- couldn't get the knuckle down low enough until I unbolted it - are yours intact in the video? It looks like they are unconnected? May need longer bushings?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

The anti-sway bars on mine are completely removed now, but even though it is possible, they can be pain to reach back in place. It depends how worn your springs are & how much the ride height is affected by them, but you may find better luck using a set from a Forester if the Impreza bars are too difficult to reconnect.

I noticed how you pointed the difference in size of the front lower control arm rear mount and bushing, but you never showed installing the control arm. Is it a direct bolt in or did you need to fabricate a spacer to accommodate the difference in height? I recently installed brand new Forester struts front and rear and found that the rear has good lift but the front is higher than the stock Impreza struts but the car is 2 in lower in front. Will the Forester control arms take up this difference?

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

The Forester arms are just for fixing camber / caster issues from the increased height, but not always necessary! (in my case I did not need those arms and just kept them for spares) I think from what you're experiencing that 1 of 2 things are happening: Either you were given Impreza struts instead of Forester, OR you have Forester struts with bad springs (sag is common on high mile cars, especially on non-OEM replacement units).

Im lifting my 95 impreza with some HDPE now for just a temp kinda thing. need it ready for a rally soon.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Lift all the things!

Did you ever install the trailing arms, or you were able to adjust the camber enough with just the bolt?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I did not, so they've just been spares. I adjusted my alignment pretty easily after this strut lift, but after the big 4" kit on top it ended up a bit out of whack... I have a new set of knobby tires on the way so I'll have to get it dialed in here soon!

Does the strut swap give you any more actual travel, or is the strut shaft just taller on the Forester struts?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I do believe so, yes. The shock cartridge in the strut body's different as far as I know. Don't get me wrong, it's not much. There are several simple upgrades for them though. I'd like to fit mine with a set of king springs, an "inverted" STI cartridge, & weld on some bracing in the weak spots of the strut body to save bending when really bashing trails hard.

Sweet sped up video man, thinking of doing this type of lift to my 02 outback sport that i daily with 310k on it, shes a tank

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Doing this was heaps easier than the big lift kit I installed later, but glad I did because mine with ~260k on it was REALLY needing a bunch of rusty things underneath replaced.

@tommys2979

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 oh im sure. I live in maine im all too firmilair with rusty shit haha

I’m trying to buy struts for my 2004 Impreza wagon , but Is there a difference between the automatic and manual cars struts , some struts specifically say “for automatic cars” so I’m confused

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

That is odd, no difference there that I am aware of.

Great video. Shame I just replaced the rear struts before wanting to do this. How would I go about researching compatibility for my model year impreza? Example, mine is 2013.

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

I would dig into the forums for that, because I'm almost clueless beyond '08 with Subaru.

Will the older forester rear struts work on my outback sport (impreza) and not give me lift? I cant find loaded struts for my specific car but I can for the Forrester. Thanks

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

I do believe that Forester struts will some lift on any chassis other than the Foresters.

How well does this lift do at highway speeds? I'm looking to do something similar to my Impreza sport for scca rallyx and don't want to trailer the car in between. Was there a sway bar that needed adjusted at all?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Harufire Surprisingly good! I tossed the sway bars in favor of suspension flex, so it has plenty of body roll but not unmanageable. Personally I find that kind of driving experience pretty fun, like a tiny trophy truck :) No reason you couldn't upgrade the bars & build extended links for them though! A handful of little heim joints & some tube is what I intend to weld up in the future for quick release sway links, once I get my hands on bigger bars.

@alexgamboa5466

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 this before has a few years old , and I am just curious about how did you end fixing the problem of the sway bar and links , did you made your own or get a new ones aftermarket , the links from the forester does not fit on the impreza ?? I am asking you this because I am thinking to lift my 2002 impreza 2.5 wagon , but after watching all the videos that are doing the same as you , they always has problems with geometrics of the car and rubbing tires , do you think in this times, three years after this video , there is a kit that you just can plug and play for this kind of lifting ?? Thx a lot

So I am trying to put 04 forester struts on my 98 obs and I can’t get the front new struts to line up with the bolts. I think I have my control arms preventing me from dropping down the caliper. In your video looks like you have yours removed. Is it ok for me to take mine off and leave off?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I left my lower arms in place & found that with Subaru front suspension's if the lower arm is binding up it helps to wedge a prybar into the gap above the inner bushing & lean down on it.

Awesome job man, just did this to my 01 Impreza. My tire size is 245 45 17. It hits in the front fender when I turn. What tire size would you recommend I switch to? I also have spacer adapters for the rims that were from a Wrx? Would appreciate you're opinion thanks

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I left my tires at the time at stock size, because I intended to go much farther with the lifting (now on 30" tires w/4" more lift), so I can't say for sure since I went from small right to rather big.

@MrSpecialblend10

4 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that's big hahaha awesome dude

If I add the 08 Forrester struts to the back will I gain that much? I currently have a 1 inch spacer lift in the back but I still get wheel rub.

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it should, but I wonder why you are getting rub already... especially in back 🤔

Hey, man. Great video. What camera did you use for this?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And the camera was just a GoPro Hero6.

Did you have issues with your sway bar links clearing your rims/tires? I have 215/45/17 rims and my sway bar links rub against my wheel when i turn the wheel all the way (such as when parking).

@russianrawkit

4 жыл бұрын

Same exact car btw. 00' Impreza OBS with SG forester struts.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@russianrawkit I removed my anti-sway bars completely, because I planned on the big lift kit after this mod, & I wanted to upgrade to much thicker bars later on (to handle the much taller ride height it has now).

@russianrawkit

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Thanks, I ended up removing the anti sway bar as well as I couldnt eliminate the rubbing.. May put them back on if I can find some longer links or a way to drop the bar an inch or so. I'm having an issue with my CV clicking when turning at slow speeds... did you get anything like this?

I purchased 2004 struts and am having trouble aligning the strut the the knuckle. Any recommendations? I was thinking of getting 04 trailing arms

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I had to do a little bit of strong arming to get mine in there, & it doesn't have antisway bars which made it easier as well. Using the arms from the same vehicle as the struts can help!

I ordered 03-08 forester suspension from ebay. I have the same car as you. Next is to find some wheels and tires since I bought it while it was sitting on another cars low profile wheels. I'm having trouble finding the spacers I need for the suspension though.

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Mine came from ebay & be sure to use good ones! Cheap spacers are scary when you change tires this much haha

I am going nuts trying to find information on interchangeability with Subaru's. Either I can't find specifics or everyone has a different opinion. Maybe you can help. I have a 2003 Legacy L wagon. I would like to definitely get some lift on it. I see you mention oddball rear suspension on 98+ Legacy's. Will 2003 or somewhere within immediate years Forester struts and springs fit my Legacy or even Outback struts and springs. If so, is there something special that needs to happen? Will I experience caster or camber issues? Would just an alignment be needed or will I need to replace arms etc? Will plates be needed in my case of lifting the Legacy to make up for difference?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly not sure on anything to do with those car's suspension systems since they differ in layout so much more than any Subaru's I've wrenched on.

Nice ride man!! I have the same one SAME color!! Anyways how much perfomance would you say is lost from lift?? Also would it be alright if the rear only was lifted??? Im gonna lift mine but its also my daily driver so im trying to find that sweet spot of having a lift and maybe still being able to do 80-90 mph

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

With this strut lift it's no change really, but when I lifted it 4" higher yet with 29" tires it kinda runs out of gear beyond 75mph

@aus109

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Ayo! update! So i did get the struts in i got brand new ones. Small problem ive got this odd rattling sound from the rear only. both sides it seems. I double checked all the bolts and nuts (wasnt very many) everything is tight. Rattle only noticeable on bumpy roads, no rattle on pavement. Its not super loud but definitely noticeable. Any ideas?? Should i be worried or just turn up the radio??

I’ve read that swapping to Impreza top hats on the rear can be done so that you don’t have to enlarge the holes in the strut tower. Is that true?

@Tinker1837

Жыл бұрын

True!

Do you know if i can do this with my 2015 impreza (not a wrx)? about to grab a strut spacer kit but figured id ask!

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure on a 2008+ because a lot changes after that point.

Nice editing

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, tried to make it right to the point.

All i got to say is Thank You!

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

You made it look so easy! Thanks. If I wanted to lift the front 1" and the rear 1.25", would I have to do is cut a nylon template the shape of the strut's side against the car's body and cut an identical shape part made out of it, for instance?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Sure! If you could get your hands on the sheet metal "dust covers" that go over top of the struts you'd have yourself a perfect template to trace for some strut top spacers. This car now has some big 4" aluminum spacers on top of the struts & subframes, rolling on nearly 30" tires ;)

@jameskennedy1249

5 жыл бұрын

What size tire can you fit with just the forester strut lift? And are the CVS gonna be a issue with just the strut lift?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Probably up to 26" depending on your wheel offset & tread width. If you want bigger the rear wheel well's easy to trim, but the front can be more tricky... requires letting some anger out with a mallet on the lower-rear of the front wells. Oh & CV's are no issue, you can get away with still running the Impreza CV's but Forester CV's are even better since they're a touch longer.

@johnathansmith3819

5 жыл бұрын

One more question: would you trust a repaired engine to be reliable, with 197.000 miles on it? (For 'repair', I mean rings, valves, bearings, including crankshaft's, rods', gaskets, etc.)? Is it worth @ $4.000 + tax Canadian, roughly .80 US? In my case, it's that, or a $2.000 CND cylinder heads gasket job. Advise? Thanks for your time, Tinker.

Great video!! Couldn’t you have swapped the top hats from the original struts so you wouldn’t have to file those holes out in the rear? Curious cause I wanna do this to my 96

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) And oh yes, for sure! I just saw it as an opportunity to be able to quickly accept either type (especially for trail-side repairs).

Odds are you’re not reading things on this anymore but, did you have any camber issues without the arms installed? I’m looking at doing this but can’t find any arms in my area!

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

I did not have camber issues with this build, but was warned by many people that it can happen. Also you can find those arms (if you want them) fairly cheap on Ebay or Car-Part.

question !! are the rear trailing arms and a arms reallly necessary i see you said they’re optional but what issues lie ahead with out using them ?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Nope! They can be good to have if you run into issues with getting it aligned, but most cars should not need them 👍

@jackpancake3725

4 жыл бұрын

another quick question if you would ? i recently lifted mine on 02 struts and shocks and when turning sharply and sometimes taking off i hear a weird rear end noise have you heard of this?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackpancake3725 I have not heard of that, & I would have a look at the usual suspects based on what sort of noise: Wheel bearings, CV axles, Anti-sway bar, Strut top-hats etc.

does cutting the hose bracket mean the struts can no longer be used? or can you bend the metal back and weld it up if you need to put the originals back?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Still useable, just allows you to remove struts without also disconnecting your brakes & then bleeding them (which is a terrible design choice honestly). Right! The way I carefully slit them with the saw blade would allow you to bend them right back if you like.

@chuckNORRIS950

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 sweet, thanks for the info! Was looking to do this to my OB wagon and this video was very informative.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuckNORRIS950 Glad to hear it could be of some use, & hopefully not too boring... can be tricky finding that balance of info + fun!

HELP! Would love to do this project but I’m a bit of a noob. What are the Forrest control arms used for and in what situation would they need to be installed? Any advise or info would be greatly appreciated. Also, just want to say that this is One of the single most well executed tutorial videos I’ve ever seen. It’s nearly perfect in every way. There is no fat on it. No needless content. No stupid music. No pointless ramblings. The camera angles are perfect and show in great detail the process. Important info and processes are show clearly and explained. Monotonous tasks are fast forwarded. This is great content and I’ve been looking for a video exactly like this since of found out about the forester lift a few years ago.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Those control arms & trailing arms are only necessary if the caster is way out of alignment once the Forester struts are in. Caster on a Subaru is easiest explained as the amount by which the strut is leaning front-to-back when viewed from the side of the vehicle. Often times when lifting a vehicle the wheels will end up too close to the door sides of the wheel wells. Depends on the specific vehicle, but for example: If after the strut lift your front wheel is off-center, to the rear in the wheel well opening, then swap in the Forester control arm to correct it. Same goes for the rear tires: If after the lift they end up off-center towards the door, the swap in the Forester trailing arm to correct it. Hope that helps & thanks for comments on the video format! That's exactly what I was going for with the edit :)

@MattSmith-rr2he

5 жыл бұрын

Tinker oh awesome! Thank you for explaining! I am just so excited to try this. I have a 2004 outback sport that is pretty ruffed up and not worth a whole lot. The left rear strut leaked all of its oil out and is sagging pretty bad. Probably won’t pass inspection. I’m thinking, hey since i’m certainly not paying anybody to do this work on this valueless car, I can either do a pretty mundane patch job or... FUCK do an awesome project baby! This video popped in my recommended feed at the ideal moment. Tyty

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Happy to help :)

Do you know how many miles the replacement struts had on them? I found a set for $275but they have 192k miles on em, for that price it might be worth it to get new aftermarket struts. Any advice there?

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

My struts in this video were quite low, since they were replaced on the donor vehicle. The trick is to check the shock seals and wear from the dust cover rubbing on the shock body, those are usually good markers for age if you don't have exact mileage. But yes I agree that if that $275 set is original to the car then they will be a wreck. Go with a good name brand (kyb, bilstein etc) with replacements if you can, and avoid the noname stuff vs low mile originals.

@earlfunkton2745

3 жыл бұрын

Tinker I’ve since found some cheaper (but fairly low mileage) forester struts and threw them in my 03 Impreza OBS. The rear strut bolt patterns matched perfectly, no need to file the holes out! The only issue I’ve come across is the caster issue in the back, I’ve read that you can fix it with trailing arm brackets from a 99 outback. Do you know if the forester trailing arms are longer if the bracket on those drop the bolt point lower than on an Impreza?

Will this work on a 2011 obs impreza with 2011 forester struts?

wouldn't it affect at rear the top hats might move around especially when you off road?

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no, trust me they are well tight in the new bolt pattern. It's been thru some very hard trail runs & they've yet to move even a little 👍

the boot and thumbs up made me lawl

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard that's an important test to do after any suspension work haha

I attempted this and followed your video. Picked up Forester struts dirt cheap at a junkyard and everything in the front bolted up fine but had problems trying to get the sway bar links to bolt back up as they were not long enough after the struts picked it up. My question is did you have this problem or did you just remove the sway links?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

They are very challenging to get in there, but on my build I removed both anti-sway bars completely due to the 4" lift kit that followed this work. Much more flexible without them, but of course more of a handful on the street (although it should go without saying this sort of work has negative handling effects). I would like to eventually get much thicker bars to replace them, with quick disconnect ends for trail runs.

@vincentgagliardi2291

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 I actually thought of maybe making some customized links out of a turn buckle or something or making a personalized sway bar. I bought a 98 Ipreza Wagon for $500 and currently using it as a daily driver.... thanks for the feedback. Let me know if you figure something out and Ill do the same ..

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@vincentgagliardi2291 That sounds like a great idea! I was thinking of something similar. Maybe a left & right hand threaded pair of rod ends + a bolt with holes to accept a hairpin style cotter.

Hi, Would I be able to buy new oem struts/spring for a 2006 forester and add those instead of buying used ones?

@Tinker1837

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, for sure that works too.

@Leo.filmstories

Жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 thank you!! I guess it’s the same thing if it was oem. What about aftermarket same height struts for forrester? Would this work on Impreza?

@Tinker1837

Жыл бұрын

@@Leo.filmstories Yep, even better if you can find an XT set

@Leo.filmstories

Жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Thank you!! Love your build!

Would this work with a 01’ Outback 2.5L? Thinkin of making mine a little more off-road accessible.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah! And they look great with a bit of added height & rubber.

@cbr125rcanada

5 жыл бұрын

No, the rear suspension on an Outback is different from the Forester/Impreza. And the height is already the same as Forester, so you'll need spacers or stiffer springs to get more height out of your Outback.

Hi Is that working on 2004 legacy (2.0 saloon) as well? Great video, thx

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly no :( Those have a very different rear suspension, shared with the Baja's, that is not nearly as easy to lift for cheap.

@sppilu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 sorry to hear, but thx anyway

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@sppilu Happy to help. Best option for that vehicle would be spacer blocks, instead of used struts like this video. I think you can go up to 2" or 3" spacers before risking CV-axle issues.

What year are the struts, trailing arms and control arms from

How did it actually feel to drive on road and on a dirt track ? Was it an improvement in any other way other then just extra ground clearance?

@Tinker1837

Жыл бұрын

Great but very different, especially with anti-sway bars removed. But then I am used to driving more off-road oriented vehicles that some might hate to deal with.

Help, I bought one already lifted that needs the shifter linkage fixed and then front axles are clicking. The mechanic is fixing the linkage, but he says the front axles have been replaced. He thinks it's the lifted angle that makes them click. He thinks there may be a spacer required somewhere in the suspension. The tech at the Subaru dealer thinks there's an after market longer axle that's needed. What say you Tinker, or other enthusiasts?

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Clicking is a sign of CV damage. Forester axles are slightly longer.

Great video man. So you didn't end up replacing the trailing arms?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks & I did not end up needing to, so for now they serve as spares for trail damage (thankfully haven't needed yet).

@JaysonMatthews

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Interesting. I just did the exact same thing on my 07 impreza (after watching your video). Lift was great but I have some weird clunking coming from the rear, normally when I back up or just start moving forward. It almost feels like an alignment issue, except there's no obvious pulling when I am driving on the freeway. Trying to pin down what is causing it. It handles great once I am up to speed.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

@@JaysonMatthews Perhaps the e-brake cables? I've noticed some cars have more/less cable available to stretch the added height. Hopefully it's not a loose bolt under there! I make a habit of using a paint marker to draw short lines from any nut or bolt head to the part it's thru, that way you can easily see anything that's worked itself loose if a mark's not aligned.

@JaysonMatthews

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 I will add that to the list of the 14 other things I am checking this week. =) Thanks again!

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

@@JaysonMatthews Happy to help!

Looking to do a similar lift. One without having to buy a bunch of spacers. Will this work on the 2002 outback?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

This mod covers most ALL Subaru models from 92-07... with the exception of the odd rear suspension setup on Baja's & the 98+ Legacy's.

Love the sound! What is it (Muffler)?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

It's actually completely custom, because it used to sound terrible! It didn't have the unequal length exhaust manifolds that give it the "Subaru rumble" so I built my own header & full system. It has straight 1.75" primaries into a hi-flow racing cat with a flex joint & v-band, then 2.5" back with just a cheap resonator & " turbo style" muffler.

Kinda have an idea of what I'm getting myself into. I'm buying a 99 legacy outback with a 3 inch lift with 30 inch wheels.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Oh nice! 30's are pretty big 👍

Ok, so I've toyed with the idea of doing this to my 2005 Impreza OBS for a while but never seriously until seeing this video. a lot of questions answered just watching it let alone reading the comments below. My big question though is this: would lifting it noticeably alter the fuel economy, or cause any weird wear and tear over time and lots and lots of miles...like CV joints? I feel like someone told me once that lifting it could result in a couple other problems eventually

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Changes in fuel economy will be dependant on what tire you decide to up-size to, so the larger the more negative effect on mpg. Wear & tear such as CV's will be a non-issue since this mod only changes you from Impreza to Forester height suspension. Larger tires though will cause increased wear on wheel bearings & brakes, but so long as you don't make a huge jump to something like 29-31" tall you're unlikely to even notice 👍

Do you know if forester struts will fit a 2012 WRX? I want more lift. I'm 4.5" taller than stock now with 28" AT tires but I want 30".

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Not too sure honestly what parts interchange the Subaru models after 2008... that's when the big platform changes rolled out & Subaru's lost quite a bit of the "lego" quality.

@dariconeill7783

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 I found a couple reports where people have done it with same generation. I think there was just a little tinkering but nothing major to make them fit. Thank you

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

@@dariconeill7783 Ah okay, & seems like it's worth a try if you can get your hands on a set of Fozz struts to test/measure.

Would this same process work on a 1998 Legacy Outback? I'm looking into options for my beater.

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Yep! They're good fun lifted :D

Did you do another video for the control arms?

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

I did not, as mine did not end up needing them to fix any camber/caster issues from the increased height.

What year exactly did you get, or does every year 03-08 work?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Just like the video says, any Forester 97 to 08 will work. Also... 97-02 are tall, but 03-08 are even taller yet, & XT models pretty much the same. (my parts were a mix of 05, 07, 08)

i seen a video where someone said in order to lift if you give up sway bars this correct?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on the vehicle, but yes this is something the case. On mine I removed them both completely because I knew I was going to add quite a bit more lift on top of these struts.

@justiceneveling3373

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 what are the pros vs cons for lifting a car? i was about to buy a 2008 subaru impreza 2.5 premium hatchback and to me it looks like it needs more height for better off road driving, i want to use it for everyday use but also like going camping in the woods

Super cool

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Did you ever upgrade your cv axles?? If so what did you use

@Tinker1837

Жыл бұрын

I did not, just replaced boots where necessary and if I needed the whole thing I stuck with used Subaru units from Ebay.

Thanks for the video! Would this work on an 05 impreza?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

Sure will! This covers most Subaru models from 92-07, with the exception of the oddball rear suspension on the Baja's & 98+ Legacy's.

@anangelsarrow556

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 Do you think the 09 forester struts will fit on the 2000 impreza wagon?

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

@@anangelsarrow556 Read above...

Humm!!! you've given me an idea for a buddys scooby doo thank you very much Tinker.

@Tinker1837

6 жыл бұрын

Happy to help, wanted more people to see how easily it can be done for cheap!

Totally new but not entirely uninformed to Subaru’s. Does anyone know if the “outback” version of the legacy sedan has longer struts that the normal legacy, or spacers, or what?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

The best I can tell from asking around it's little to no difference.

Did you run into issues with your CVs clicking when turning at low speeds? (15-25mph) I have this exact car (00' OBS) and put the same lift (04 Forester Struts) and my axles just click like a MF ...

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I did not, didn't have any CV issues until I installed the big lift & even then it was just a few boots torn / few getting clicky. I think any lift will quickly highlight underlying CV issues. Definitely stick the OE replacements if you can, & the used market is your friend if you want to save a few $.

I have a 97 Subaru Legacy L, to your knowledge will 06-08 Forester struts fit on it ?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

All the part interchange info's in the description & beginning of the video.

I’m having some caster issues on the front. How much do the forester lower control arms differ from the stock ones?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

The inner mountings of the Forester arms are different, enough to resolve any of those sorts of issues (due to the match up of Forester struts with Forester arms).

@ErtiaAirsoft

4 жыл бұрын

Tinker. Just the bushings? Or where the ball joint connects as well? thanks for the quick reply.

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

The 2 inner mounting points are different from the Impreza arms, not sure there is any difference with the outer side of the arms (ball joint etc)

Did you have to disconnect the sway bars?

anyone know what year forester parts I should look for for an 08 impreza outback sport? Ive seen that 09-14 should work but does anyone know for sure?

@Emily-lk1mf

Жыл бұрын

prob too late for you now, but on my 08 i used 2012 forester struts. 09-14 should work but i know 2012s for sure. heads up that if you daily drive it on pavement you will go through rear tires every 4 months if you dont correct the rear camber lol. and my front control arm bushings gave out about 6 months in, but the car had 200k kms on it so they were probably in pretty bad shape anyways. cant think of any other issues i encountered lifting it. oh besides the rear trailing arms, i bought adjustables and the bushings both separated from the arms. just buy forester trailing arms way cheaper and better quality

So basically to lift a vehicle you can just use struts from another vehicle and retrofit then?

@Tinker1837

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! Lucky that so many Japanese cars have tons of interchangeable parts.

I want to do something like this with an older GL wagon or Loyale, any ideas?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not terribly familiar with those (they are super cool though!) but the guys over at SJR Lift Kit's started out specializing in modifying those in particular & I'm sure have a wealth of knowledge to help out.

@supdupsamy

4 жыл бұрын

Ok cool cool! Thank you I'll check them out.

I am having the worst time putting these in haha. Seems like there still needs to be a good 5 inches of clearance for the two fastening bolts to slip into the strut. Any help?

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

That happens sometimes if your bushings are worn out then they'll bind & fight you. Best option is getting a second hand to lean on the arms so you can slip a bolt in. Once you have 1 started the 2nd will do e in easily.

@JK-zt8wk

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 its a good mile pretty much. I'm thinking i gotta tense the coils maybe but im afraid itll just have wayy too much pressure once I let it go

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

@@JK-zt8wk Must be the rears I'm guessing? The fronts go in super easy while the rears take about 3 times as long since you're fighting all the links. Forester struts are as tall as they get, so I doubt you've used the wrong struts.

@JK-zt8wk

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinker1837 i must be a dang ol anomily. Can i email you a bit? I got a pic and i can send you which ones I got. Maybe we can both solve this and get me sky high

@Tinker1837

5 жыл бұрын

@@JK-zt8wk Hmmm well I can't figure out how to message with this anymore, looks like the function's been entirely removed.

With this lift, did you encounter many cv axel issues?

@Tinker1837

3 жыл бұрын

Nope! No CV issues until I lifted it much more, and even then it was mostly just torn boot covers.

Hey I have a 06 Subaru outback sport and the only thing I word need to lift it word be 06 Forester struts that's it?

@Tinker1837

4 жыл бұрын

Sort of, all the info is in the video.