Tubular, tubeless or clinchers: which do you prefer and why? 🚴

@billkallas1762

11 ай бұрын

Tubs for racing, clinchers for training. Glue, always. Mastik One for Vittoria, Conti glue for Conti. (Mastik One seems to loosen the base tape on Conti tubulars)

@bicivini

11 ай бұрын

#1 Veloflex Pro Tour 28mm tubulars… #2 Michelin Power Cup tubulars… for training with tape, racing glue. Still most puncture proof, comfort, weight ratio excellence. Available with most modern, aero, lightweight carbon wheels like Deerobust / EliteWheels / Yishun etc. But just my preference and 5 cents on it

@morlamweb

11 ай бұрын

Tubulars are interesting as retro tech, and I'm a fan of most retro bike tech; but I can change out two supple clinchers + TPU tubes in about 15 minutes.

@firasmaruf5045

11 ай бұрын

Clinchers, baby!

@paulbrown4235

11 ай бұрын

Tubs only for the last 25 years!

I didn't even know tubular wheels/tires existed for some reason. So when I went to buy a secondhand set of carbon wheels off facebookmarketplace to my big surprise they turned out to be these kind of wheels. They already had tires on (one flat). And it said "tubes" in the ad. But my dumb head just thought "oh nice, free inner tubes and outer tubes". But they're still very nice and light carbon wheels so I guess we're doing this now! Hopefully the future holds not that many punctures but we'll see.... Thanks so much for the video!

This video reminds me all that mess with tubulars when I was teenager over 30 years ago. Now, I'm super happy for tubeless, no pinch flats, no punctures, much easier setup 👍😉

@piglegluckson9156

11 ай бұрын

Add run-flat inserts & you've got a perfect setup.

@romanpramuka2703

10 ай бұрын

@@piglegluckson9156 good idea, but too expensive, too heavy and too difficult to install.

@ElRealista.

Ай бұрын

Tubeless is for lazy princesses

Wow! If I had to choose between tubs and tubeless, I'd definitely go tubeless! But luckily clinchers have freed me from choosing which of those messes I want to deal with.

@mlee6050

11 ай бұрын

I use tape instead of glue for tubular, went down hill at 43mph with flat front wheel

@hillarynoye1959

10 ай бұрын

Do a video using tubular tape - piece of cake ..

Been riding tubulars for 50 years. Good job. A few tips, though. Mounting the wheel in a truing stand or a frame on a works stand makes it a lot quicker and easier to apply and spread the glue to the wheel, and also to center the tread after mounting the tire. I have always found a fingertip is perfect for accurately spreading the glue onto the wheel, though you will either need a nitrile glove or a bit of solvent to clean your finger after. Lastly, if you think riding tubulars will save you from pinch flats, as suggested by the title image, think again. Definitely possible. I have not had much luck with sealant in tubulars, but I may try Orange Seal as suggested by someone else’s comment.

Never seen a GCN video that shouts 'Take it to your local bike shop' more than this one :)

@JamesCrandallPainting

Ай бұрын

Last time I asked, the bike shop wanted $100 per wheel just for the labor

I use Effetto Mariposa Tubular Tape, it takes less than 15 minutes for a set of wheels

@FurySpyder

11 ай бұрын

This is what I use. Not too horrible to remove either.

Tufo has videos about tubular tyres but they use double sided rim tape, which appears a lot easier

If you ride tubulars only all the time you can: Use Vittoria mastic glue and forget about all prepping and only dab a little beside the valve on the tire. Glue the rim let the glue dry until it is tacky not sticky, don't be cheap with it. More glue/layers let the tire bed in better. Bring a tire lever or you will struggle to get it off! Apparently triathletes leaves a patch without glue for easier removal. Pre-stretch is a must on Conti Comp preferable wet/damp. Use Orange seal or other sealer that can handle higher pressure and you only need to change when it is worn out. Be aware that many mtb sealer wont stand more than 6-7 bar. Two things about tubular. If you are heavy/tall like me a clincher needs above 9 bar not to "snakebite" in a pothole. There is no grip or comfort in a clincher at 9 bar. I use 8.2 (120psi) in the tubulars. I had a inner tube rip in a tire on a 12.7% decent. I was lucky there where no traffic that moment. I have had tubulars flatten (before sealer was a thing) and that is ok, I have ridden home slowly on flat tubulars with no rim damage. Use a worn tire that has been glued as a spare. Cheapest tubular are shit with no puncture protection.

The dark cold winter nights, fixing punctures in the damn things. And sewing them back together straight. True test of patience, espcially near the end. When you dont want to push your needle into the tube. All I can say is thank goodness for high pressure tyre technology.

Never thought I would need this video, but yesterday I bought an awesome secondhand bargain! Complete with carbon wheels that come with tubs! Thought I had better check out what I need before the first ride. It didn’t come with a team car or neutral service vehicle…

I still use Tufos tubular road tires on my modern carbon wheels for summer riding. This particular brand lets you use Dynaplug style repair system (just like you would for regular tubeless tires). Of note, I use tubular tape instead of glue... works great and I've never rolled a tub off a rim.

@artemisxo6734

11 ай бұрын

tape actually increases your rolling resistance, it might not be noticeable to most of us but if you want performance glue is better

@luukrutten1295

11 ай бұрын

Tufo tires are literally rolling resistance nightmares...

@aaronedgeart

11 ай бұрын

I've not found issue with them@@artemisxo6734

@aaronedgeart

11 ай бұрын

I've had no trouble@@luukrutten1295

@Philatlondon1

11 ай бұрын

I tried the Tufo tubular clinchers. They were pretty awful things.

The first tubular I glued back in the 80's was a true disaster. I managed to get glue on my fingers, glue on the sidewalls, and glue on the rim. That wasn't the worst thing that happened. I was doing this outside, sitting on my front steps, when I somehow manage to bump both wheels and knock them into my freshly mowed lawn. I ended up with bits of mowed grass all over the braking surfaces of the rims, on the nice sidewalls of the tires, and stuck to my fingers. It took a VERY long time to clean off the rims and fingers, but I never was able to clean the sidewalls completely. I learned from my mistakes.

@andrewmcalister3462

11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure whether to laugh or be horrified by this. 😂😱 Thanks for sharing.

@billkallas1762

11 ай бұрын

@@andrewmcalister3462 You learn by your mistakes. It's like learning to not pedal through an off camber turn, at 30 mph.

@andrewmcalister3462

11 ай бұрын

@billkallas1762 so the lesson learned was "glue tubs BEFORE mowing the lawn"? 😆

Well done! Gives me hope for you guys to even be talking about this . Please go ahead and read the instructions for each brand of adhesive. Carefully. Many Thanks.

It's very generous of Alex to let Duncan use his workshop!!

Good video Alex we still use tubs on the track. Back in the day I used to glue my own tubulars. The process is not easy but really satisfying. Today I let experienced people glue my tubs. Not so sure that tubeless should be used on the track as the sealant could make a mess on the boards

Alex, you should try this using a bench/table wheel stand! Prep & glue on the rim is way more faster & easy! I ONLY use Vittoria Mastic for gluing tubis! I have glued 1000's of wheels & still do for track racing on the World Cup level!

Thank you for this video! I am about to install a pair of Tubs for the first time this weekend - perfect timing! 🙂

@MrStarford

10 ай бұрын

Get the tape it's much easier

Glueing up some tubulars is in my plans for the weekend. I've been using the Vittoria Mastik Pro water soluble glue for several years and prefer it over the other glues

This video comforted me that tubeless or clinchers are a great invention 🤣. Well done anyhow Alex: super informative!

Loved when I used Vittoria tubulars on Mavic rims with Dura Ace hubs. Great ride with nice and quiet freewheel.

With a cheap tubular, like the Rally, the base tape isn't always glued on straight, so it's best to put the wheel in a truing stand to make it run straight, without having any "lumps". After gluing tires like you did for close to 20 years, (and always getting a little glue on my fingers and sidewalls,) I "invented" a slightly different way of getting the tire on the tube. After getting the valve and the first 12 inches of tire on the rim, I would flip the wheel over so I could place my bare toes on either side of the valve. This way I could use all of my strength to pull the tire on, and over the last lip of the rim. No messy sidewalls. When I started racing on tubs, you could pick up Conti Sprinters for $40, Comps for $50, and Vittoria CX's for about $45. (back then Conti Sprinters were an actual race tire. Now they are made cheaper and are good for training. (for people who still train on tubs) Everything else was pretty spot on.

@adadinthelifeofacyclist

11 ай бұрын

I use a turbo trainer; with my feet on its legs it's really solid for lifting the tyre off the glue

Well done, I need to do this on my Dura Ace wheels! Mine were done originally by the INEOS mechanics!

@wilburleft

Ай бұрын

I just got a 2023 season Team DSM Scott Foil with the latest DA C50 tubulars. Vittoria rear tire punctured soon after I got it. Trying to figure all this out. Thinking of Continentals, Sprinter or Competition ($$$$) with glue tape. Wish it had clinchers now. What has worked for you? Thanks. By the way, saw Tom Pidcock’s Dogma in Mack Cycle in Miami today shopping g for glue tape. Nobody has it in stock. Pidcock took second in the gravel stage today. Great race!

I can set up a set of wheels with tubs using tape in 15 minutes. The other day it took me over an hour to get one tubeless tyre to seal even using a compressor. I used tubs the whole of last season averaging 400 to 500km’s per week and didn’t have one flat. I even used a lightweight set in the Alps and they felt so much safer descending than tubeless or clinchers. Out of the 3 different systems the only one I will never use again on a road bike are tubeless as I’ve had more ruined rides due to non sealing punctures than I’ve ever experienced on tubs or clinchers.

I'm so happy, as I type through the tears in my eyes, that you finally are giving some love to tubulars. Too bad you didn't find any with silk casings - aero and a better ride quality than the 30mm monstrosities ridden today (as long as it isn't raining).

Great Video, Alex. But, you should mention the use of Tufo Gluing tape. My 76 yr. old arms, are not doing this glue stuff any longer. Been using Tufo tape for the last decade , with out issue. That includes flying down hills , and the tires stay on the rims. I do use sealant, but had one tire not reseal, for even a small puncture . Still have 1 set of tires left in my stock, before I hang up my tubular wheels for good. Thanks . KB

Tubs were the thing when I started racing in the early seventies. The glue was a definite high if you didn't have good ventilation in the workshop. With a bit of practice you can get a wheel done in about ten minutes. Now, repairing a puncture and re-sewing the tub was a skill; I don't suppose I could do it now.

Alternative use for rim cement: Two of my old riding buddies used Tubasti rim cement to glue a cardboard sign saying “Cyclists have a right to the road too” onto the windshield of a car that had been driven to deliberately run them off the road, which they located later. They also removed the lug nuts and replaced the hub caps. I’m certain it took a lot of time, effort and solvent to remove that nasty rim cement, and then he had another surprise when he tried to drive it. My favorite revenge story on an aggressive driver.

I'm glad you said you were not an expert I've glued a few tubs in my day and still use them on the track not really a big deal. Although I liked it better when our mechanics glued them for us. I'd still rather glue tubs than deal with tubeless.

Haven't done tubulars myself, but I'm dreaming of building up something lugged with vintage Campag eventually, so I'm definitely saving this vid

okej, this video was a big help, because i wanted to buy some new rims, and i probably would have bought the wrong one. I want to use a tire you put on your rim, and then you put the tube under the tire, put the tire up all the way, and then blow the tube, so it all comes together. I think that is what you call a clincher. but. when i for example go to Zipp, to buy wheels, they only sell Tubular Rim-brake and Tubeless Rim-brake (i need rim-brake). does that means no one of those will work, i was very close to buy Tubular once..... Thanks for the help!!! wonderful video again!!!

Pit Stop sealant. For roadside repair of tubular flats.

Bought a Campagnolo Bora Ultra 2 front tubular wheel at a great price and will alternate fronts this Spring/Summer.

I would ask for more details on gluing a tubular/rim for velodrome use, sanding a new rim with what grit of sandpaper, and what direction should you make your sand paper "cross hatch" pattern? I used tubulars 40+ years ago and witnessed many glued tubular failures. Gluing tubulars correctly was a big deal back then because that was the only performance tire available. Thanks in advance.

Well you've done the easy bits. What about taking the old glue off the rim and tyre? What about repairing punctures? It's not that hard, but I'd love to learn any useful tricks!

@stevemawer848

11 ай бұрын

The trick with repairing punctures is to figure out roughly where the puncture is likely to be, so you don't have to unglue base tape and unstitch too much. Pull the base tape off around the suspected area, cut the stiching and gently pull the inner tube out. Then lightly inflate the tube (careful as it's more fragile than a "real" inner tube) to locate the hole. Patch it, let it dry, put the tube back in, and carefully restitch the tub (you don't want the needle to make another puncture!). Reglue the base tape and your're good to go!

@stevegoodfellow3423

11 ай бұрын

@@stevemawer848 From memory, that's easier to say than do 😁

@jreitsma

9 ай бұрын

Surprisingly enough, WD40 is quite effective when it comes to removing old glue. I'd also recommend using tubular tape; it hugely simplifies things.

I find that it's easiest to straighten the tyre (and put glue on the rim) with the wheel mounted in a turbo trainer, without the resistance roller engaged obvs. Sat on a chair with a foot on the turbo frame either side of the wheel it's easy to see where it's out of alignment and easy (well, easier) to lift the tyre away from the glue and reposition it. It also allows adjustment of the tightness of the tyre around the rim so the tyre isn't stretched more in some places; I don't know if that's a thing, but I do it cos it's convenient when straightening the tyre on a turbo...

best add for modern tubeless tires....

I have run clincher, tubular, tubulsr/clincher tires. Tufo makes tubular rim tape that sets with a few miles of riding. Their tires can survive being run flat. Pressures were whacky at 220 psi. I run either standard tubular or tubular/clincher on six of my seven fixed gear bikes.

Well you made that difficult. I have jumped on the tubular wagon after buying some 2nd hand 404s (bargain). Made a wheel stand, and used gluing tape instead of liquid glue, and apart from cleaning off the old glue with acetone (painful), the job was simple. I was told the tape comes off cleaner too Would love to try the pirelli tubs but haven't been able to get them

After early disasters with glue everywhere 😂i find it much more hasslefree to use tub tape👍. But fair play to you.

I prefer tubulars, with tape, not glue, to tubeless. Overall though, I prefer clinchers. So much easier to set up and maintain and most importantly, to deal with punctures!

@BlueScreenGaming1

11 ай бұрын

Would say it would be okay for training/commuting on pathways? There is some really cheap carbon tubular wheels on marketplace place, but I am worried about maintenance (I do have access to a bike shop at work however)

@stevemawer848

11 ай бұрын

@@BlueScreenGaming1 As an impecunious schoolboy in the early 1960s I used to ride my sprint wheels and tubs everywhere - racing, training, and to school. Didn't suffer many punctures until the tubs got old, either. I did do the repairs myself - you need a big strong needle and fingers to match!

@FurySpyder

11 ай бұрын

@@BlueScreenGaming1 yes, you 'could' use tubulars for any type of riding, providing you can get the tyres you need, but the question would be 'why' when you probably have more choice of rims and tyres with clinchers. For me, one of the downsides with tubulars is if you get a puncture mid-ride..... Essentially you have to carry an emergency tub tyre with you or phone a taxi/partner! Having said this, most tubs come with latex tubes which are less susceptible to punctures and some people mitigate this problem by putting tubeless sealant inside their latex tub tubes. This also mitigates another problem with latex inners commonly found in tubs, ie the rate of air loss. I wouldn't use tubulars on a bike I need every day as you'd be topping the tyres up every day! Having said all this, I, touch wood, have never had a puncture on a tubular. I have only fitted tubulars on my 'climbing' bike for the low weight. For most other types of rides, I'd rather stick to clinchers!

Watching this tutorial makes me very thankful for tubeless.

@savagepro9060

11 ай бұрын

Lazy!

@HeibesHealth

11 ай бұрын

Or you could go with clinchers. LoL.

@morlamweb

11 ай бұрын

@@HeibesHealth tubeless tires ARE clinchers.

@HeibesHealth

11 ай бұрын

@@morlamweb Clinchers need an inner tube.

@HeibesHealth

11 ай бұрын

@@morlamweb If you’re trying to get technical, sure, tubeless are clinchers that are specifically designed to be able to be run tubeless, but what’s traditionally called a clincher tire requires an inner tube.

Thanks I'm going to replace my 20 year old tubulars this winter. My spare on my bike was a 1979 Russian Tubular it still holds air.

I use the tyres that my used wheels are intended for. On my lightweight I do prefer tubulars. BUT I use tape for the tubulars. It's so much easier to center the tyres that way. Only tubeless in my fatbike, to save 1 kg of weight !!

Alex, this video takes my mind back to the '60s, when I used to glue 'tubs' (silk imperfs) onto 'sprints'. Bearing in mind the proclivity of young lads to not do things thoroughly, I'm amazed that I never had a tub roll off while cornering. The thought of it horrifies me now.

@stevemawer848

11 ай бұрын

I never could afford silk tubs back in the 60s, but like you, what's "thoroughly"? 🙂 I never had tubs roll off either, but I did see that happen at a trike race at Lee on Solent - cornering puts a lot of sideways force on the tubs on a trike!

@richardharris8538

11 ай бұрын

@@stevemawer848 I'm guessing you weren't riding a trike - it was mostly older guys riding them. I never saw the appeal. I remember racing on the airfield circuit there, in the early to mid '60s. That was the only time I ever got applause from spectators.

@stevemawer848

11 ай бұрын

@@richardharris8538 No, I've only ridden a racing trike once, and that was just a go on one my LBS had in for service. We may have been at the same event - HMS Daedalus? I think they even had races for tandem trikes, though not many of them!

@richardharris8538

11 ай бұрын

@@stevemawer848 Yes, we used to ride up from Bournemouth, have a couple of beers and sandwiches in a pub, en route, do the race, and ride back home, via a tea room (in Lymington), and more beer in a pub near Christchurch. Those were the days! As for trikes, I never saw anything as exotic as a tandem trike. A regular trike was a devil to steer. It would go the opposite way to what I wanted, and that was true for everyone except the crazy guy 🤣who owned it.

@kennethward9530

11 ай бұрын

First summer as a cat IV racer, putting bike together under a shady tree for a race, my buddy points out a guy gluing his front tire on with fast tack spray adhesive just before the race. Wisely made it a point to stay in front of the guy, who did take down some riders. Can't say for sure if the tire rolled causing crash or because of crash, but I had my suspicions.

I don’t use glue since i found jantex tubular tape. Easy to install, no mess and it holds perfectly.

20 min job to glue 2 tubs with Effetto mariposa tape... No mess... no stres😉

I Remember learning how to do this fork an old video back in the day with Simon.. I think he used tub tape back then..

Wow. I've wondered if I've been missing out not running tubulars since the days when even civilians ran them and the rest of us still had steel beaded clinchers. But you have CURED me Alex! I no longer want to do it at all. And you didn't even cover what happens when you get a flat.

I just did this for my tt bike (reasonably priced rear disc) argh I got the conti tyre with no wobbles and looking good. Only after one day did I realise the tread wasn’t straight 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😢. Well I survived a tt with a very fast section so I think it’s ok. Hopefully And tubeless all the way. So easy and nice to have piece of mind

I'm sure Alex did a fine job, but this is such a messy affair! All this for what, a marginal improvement in rolling resistance and road feel (if any) over clinchers or tubeless?

Tubular Tires with a can of sealant are perfect. Also use tape, not glue, much faster.

@ericpmoss

11 ай бұрын

I LOVE FMB tubulars, and have been able to keep using them after a puncture with Orange Sealant, BUT... Donnelly makes a cross tubular that is built like a tubeless tire. It is fabulous -- perfectly straight and works perfectly with sealant. Continental makes one tubular that way, too.

@fastestmilkman3840

11 ай бұрын

@@ericpmoss ohh I'll check it out!

@mlee6050

11 ай бұрын

Tape isn't as secure as glue though so up to you

Are these different than standard tubed tires? All my wheels need are rim tape and they're good to go nothing else required lol

I'd still be on tubulars if I had an unlimited budget. I had a purpose built galvanized solvent tank for removing glue. Also great for finding punctures. How many have actually repaired punctures on these!

So if you get a puncture with a tubular tyre can you inject some sealant and pump up the tyre?

@aaronedgeart

11 ай бұрын

Some, like Tufo brand, sealant and Dynapunches too!

Alex: How To Glue & Install Tubular Tires. THANK YOU ALEX, finally!👋👋👋👋💥

Thankful for road tubeless after seeing this? Mounting tubulars is a lot easier and less messy than setting up road tubeless, in my experienced opinion.

Can I take tubular off my wheels and replace with inner tube and tyre?

tubulars 4ever

Please remind me the pros of using this kind of tires

I glued so many of those during the 80s and 90s, it’s ridiculous. For road, I personally prefer clinchers with lightweight tubes these days. I’ve ridden tubeless road, but it’s a mess on the roadside when problems do occur, and whatever you do, do not use a popular brand of sealant that rhymes with the word “pans” on aluminum rims. It literally ate holes through the inner walls of my Campagnolo Eurus 2-way rims. Expensive and time consuming repair. But, If I was still a young racer with dreams, I would roll tubeless today because they’re just faster.

If tyre/rim combos where like starting a fire: Tubs - rubbing sticks together. Tubeless - mining for gas, refining that gas, mining flint, building a container with a wick. Inner tubes - like a box of matches, strike a match and hey presto - fire. Its an old concept but works every time.

After watching this, I might just get some tubs back on my Hyperons and ride them locally with PitStop.

I remember this as a teenager and it was so annoying getting aligned. Stitching tubs to save money was also a common pastime…

I understand that it sounds like heresy, but is there any chances that it be possible to use rim in which was glued such tires with regular tires? I'll buy some old bicycle with glued tires like this on wheels, but hub of this wheels are too juicy to throw it away and I will got hard time to afford new rim and sprockets if I will to save wheel hub because it have system with straight sprocket head which is exotic in my region.

I really don't miss having to do that.

Track wheels still use tubs i just replaced 2 tyres due to a puncture how ever the way i was taught was 1 layer on the rim and tyres let them dry for 24hrs 2nd layer same process 3rd layer rim only then mount the tyre make sure its straight etc

Where can i buy this shirt?!? Didnt find it in the gcn store 😢

Tubular is still the best👌. Its the choice of professional teams when not sponsored by tubeless manufacturers

@savagepro9060

11 ай бұрын

Hahahahahaaaa. Well Put, well said, I'm even gonna steal that one, and guess what? It's true!

Fitting the last bit of the tyre, it's easiest to wear legwear that can get gluey and grip the horizontal wheel between stomach and thighs. See the Continental how to video

I thankfully skipped over tubs, so I'll have to decide which of the other two technologies I hate most when I get my gravel bike and set it up tubeless in a few months time.

Rims for tubs are called 'Sprint rims'. 28" Tubs are usually 28x22. That's 28 inches x 22 millimeters ?? Clean up sprint rims with acetone. When the old cement is soft, treat it with a hot air gun, or blowtorch and scrape it off with a spoon. Rims and tubs need two coats of glue. Tubs are weird. They shrink onto the rim as they are inflated. Deflate as much as reasonable to align on rim. Cement doesn't 'dry' it 'sets'. "Izzy Whizzy, let's get busy." Sooty. By Harry Corbett. This bike guy must be very old. "Glue sniffers, stick together." 🙂 Outercovers with innertubes were called 'Demontables'. The early 'Pneus' were sewn up and glued on.

Of course I've glued tubs to rims - the alternative back in the 1960s were 27" "high pressure tyres", which were dreadful. And it certainly didn't take me an hour per wheel - you obviously need some practice! 🙂

Where do i get tubular tyres..from Nigerian

Why would you still use glue when there is a tubular glue tape lol? I'm running tubulars forever and they are amazing with the tape - no glue mess, easy fit and always perfect every time because you can seat the tire perfectly before applying the tape. And best of all - easy puncture fixes with sealant just like with tubeless but without the mess and I don't need to tell you about the ride feel - nothing comes close.

I’ve ridden tubular tyres for a while and it was like riding on clouds.

Nice t shirt how can i get one!?

IF I had a bike that used these kind of tires I would make a fixture to hold the wheel still. thank goodness for tubeless tires.

Can you run latex inner tubes in tubeless tires?

@artemisxo6734

11 ай бұрын

absolutely, tubeless really just means tubeless *ready*

@chicodusty30

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information!!@@artemisxo6734

Jonas won Le Tour on 24c tubs.

Real tyres. Happily have them on 3 of my bikes. If you know, you know.

These are a mystery to me. I punctured so frequently before converting to tubeless, I can’t understand how you effectively deal with flats at the roadside with tubulars (if you don’t have a team car obvs)

@matt_acton-varian

11 ай бұрын

Most riders had training wheels with tough carcasses tubs on and a racing pair with more supple but puncture prone tyres. It was not uncommon to see riders with semi inflated spares draped over their shoulder. If you did puncture you would have to pull off the old tyre and fit the new one without adhesive and ride carefully until you get home to secure it. But the higher working pressures of tubular tyres offer a little extra protection from punctures.

@dh7314

11 ай бұрын

@@matt_acton-varianthat’s interesting thanks.

@TobiMcTobeface

11 ай бұрын

Where does thought higher pressure leads to less punctures? The only case I see this being the case is with clinchers to avoid pinch flats, otherwise higher pressure will deform far less and not resist a sharp object's penetrating the carcass

@matt_acton-varian

11 ай бұрын

@@TobiMcTobeface I didn't say it would make a huge difference, only slight. Sharp objects will cut through anything if ridden over. But high pressures lead to more blunt objects that can cause punctures and pinches to bounce off the surface.

@stibra101

11 ай бұрын

Vittoria Pitstop, easy

Why have you not suggested tub tape? Cement too messy!

@TobiMcTobeface

11 ай бұрын

Tape is once only and annoying to clean off when changing the tyre. Once glued you just as to the glue. If you need to change a tyre on a ride you can stick a pre glued one on and it's almost as good as doing it properly. I wouldn't hammer round right corners but you won't need to worry if cornering at normal speed. You'd be able to complete a day in the mountains with it. With tape there's no way you'd do that. It's get you home only.

Yeah, tubeless with that nasty sealant leaking out is so much better. Using rim tape for tubular is much neater than glue.

Use tubular tape - no need for glue !! Then no pinch flats and no tubeless sealant … Ps veloflex make some nice narrow through to wider tubulars ..

Don’t think they are worth the hassle anymore - except for cyclocross. Currently gluing two sets, Belgian (tape-and-mastic) style.

Next: [1] how to re-sew tubulars . . . [just for fun] [2] how to put sealant into a tubular

@artemisxo6734

11 ай бұрын

[2] use a valve core tool to remove the valve core, inject 1-2 ounces through a sealant syringe, put the valve back in

@savagepro9060

11 ай бұрын

@@artemisxo6734 we need a visual for the uninitiated

@adadinthelifeofacyclist

11 ай бұрын

Every tubular I have resewn has started off with the stitching following one pattern then inexplicably changing to another pattern halfway through! 😂

@savagepro9060

11 ай бұрын

@@adadinthelifeofacyclist no worries, it's abnormally normal, you are not alone!

@Philatlondon1

11 ай бұрын

I thought the advice was not to put sealant in tubulars because the latex tubes rip.

Acetone is better for the job, instead of rubbing alcohol!

@gcntech OMG not Vittoria Rally tubs ! They are about the worst tubular you can buy. they ride badly, the base tape is not straight and the often have lumpy parts in the tread. In 35 years of riding tubulars I have not encountered tires as bad. Even the garden hose like TUFO tires are better.

I don’t think it is retro. Many pro teams are still using it! I love tubulars! I prefer gluing it rather than use messy sealant.

There is zero point in using glue, unless you’re doing fast descents in extremely hot places like the Middle East. Glue I s messy and laborious. With tape, tubs couldn’t be easier to install and remove. I know the marketing is pushing tubeless but the fact remains tubular tyres are by far the best in terms of speed and safety. This video will just put people off using tubular tyres. Tub tape makes the process quick and efficient.

Firstly 1) instead of using Conti glue, get something better and longer lasting, Vittoria Mastik is good. B) Don't use such a big brush which makes everything messy. C) Too much glue in one go. If rim is clean then first 2 really thin glue rounds on rims and 2 layers on tyres with couple hour dry time. After it last glue round on rim and pull tire on. No need to clean rim if using same glue and glue is not vintage, then just 1 layer more. D) Those Vittoria Rally tubs sucks and impossible to get strait with bad uneven quality, get atleast something mid level tubulars like Conti spinters. Glued my own tubes 2 days ago. Really easy job.

Use the tape, all changed within 20 mins

I use tubulars. Wish i knew how to repair a puncture...

@savagepro9060

11 ай бұрын

use sealant, even AFTER the puncture, depending on size, though!

Continental Cement is awful IMO. Vittoria Mastik is just way better to deal with and it dries quicker, too. My recommendation if you must use glue.

it looks like you had it partially inflated when you put it on.

dude... clincers with TPU tube all the way. light, easy and secure

Wow ! I got the hang of tubeless no problem it took a couple times. But tubulars ain’t happening!

Always used tape not glue, even for cyclocross races, never rolled a tyre yet and in the very unlikely event you do need to change a tyre while out on a ride, a get you home repair is possible

Disappointed that you didn't glue the to your bamboo rims; LOL