How To Install & Set Up A Shimano Di2 Groupset | GCN Tech Monday Maintenance
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Installing a Shimano Di2 electronic groupset to your road bike isn't as difficult as you'd think. In this video, Alex talks you through the simplest way to correctly install your groupset and index your gears so your Shimano electronic groupset shifts perfectly every time!
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Did this video help you set up Di2 on your bike? Let us know 👇
@pappie_joppie
3 жыл бұрын
Nope unfortunately I can't afford Di2
@GC_420
3 жыл бұрын
I think we are starting to see a lot of repeat/rehash videos. I believe this same Di2 setup was done by Ollie before IIRC.
@Mikster2006
3 жыл бұрын
very much! And no magnets or blue wires for a change. Amazing!
@a.s.1673
3 жыл бұрын
So good explaned, clear and we'll filmed top!
@climateemergency7943
3 жыл бұрын
hello, I still have one issue where I can't quite figure out how to resolve it and it would be terrific if someone could give me some useful advice. My problem is that I can't screw the screw on the rear derailleur out much more than I already have to make the rear derailleur align with the smallest sprocket. With a mechanical groupset this could easily be resolved by adjusting the length of the cable but with di2 I have no Idea. Does anyone know how to di that?
Now that I learnt, send me the di2 group sets pls.😀
@seanforgor
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
I really think Alex does an excellent job. I mean I will never own Di2 or probably never afford it but I can't help but to watch it!
Fantastic video. Just set my di2 up. Very quiet and smooth.👍👍👍
I love Shimano and I always will, but after watching this video out of curiosity, I am glad I updgraded to Sram eTap! Slightly more intuitive 😅 Thanks Alex for the great video tho!
Awesome instruction. Thank you
the best video about setting up Di2 thank you
what about internal cable rattling in the down tube, or the drop bars???
good explanation... well done sir
Perfect timing! I just bought a whole kit, ready to get it in as soon as I order a few parts for the frame.
@SaltehBalleh
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Ask me anything :)
He forgot to mention that the front derailleur hanger support screw might not contact the front derailleur hanger and might hit your frame and make a dent in the carbon, in this case you need the small stopper plate that comes with your front derailleur
@markxkovacic
3 жыл бұрын
Seems most mechanics and manufactures skip this step. Makes a difference in the quality of the front shifting. There are a lot of those metal support tabs in the box or in the trash.
@marcogiampa283
3 жыл бұрын
@@markxkovacic yeah lots of new frames have the front derailleur hanger bolts where the screw goes so you don't need it, but some go straight into the carbon and will destroy it
Very well explained mate. Good thing it was not Tom Last that did this presentation or I will not be at lost with so much skipping and assumptions.
#askgcntech #GCNTECH Can you please do a video on cockpit geometry? I am a track racer and I would like to learn the difference between riding positions for endurance vs sprint events. The rider position can be changed by simply changing stem length and angle, bar width, reach, drop, sweep, and flare. Could you please address some of the crazy handlebar designs used by top track athletes? Also, explain what advantages a rider may have with a longer bar for a sprint event for example. Thanks so much!
Completely satisfied.
Now I need a video to set up Syncro-Shifting...
#gcntech Hi there, please could you do a video on the installation of GRX hydraulic brakes including the sub brake levers. Thanks.
awesome!
Alex finally gave up how to show setting up mechanical Front mech correctly and switched to Di2 groupset :-)
#AskGCNTech I have been noticing what could only be described as oscillation through the chain on some of my middle gears while on the trainer. I changed my old Ultegra cassette with a new one and upgraded to a GOLD CHAIN! I've noticed that my previous cassette has cut into the splines a little bit. Would this make my new cassette and chain feel "dodgy"? I've been careful to index my gears properly several times trying to trouble shoot. Thank you for any help you can provide. Have not missed a show yet!!
Nice vid. Although it uses more wires for a "wireless" setup than a conventional "wired" setup 😁
@1:05....That’s a super crucial tool if you want to keep your warranty intact.
Can you do another video with the new 12 speed Di2?
Should one use any foam sound dampeners on Di2 wires like some people install on mechanical brake or shifter lines? Thanks for the video!
@BetterShifting
3 жыл бұрын
Shimano have a thing for that - ew-sd50-i , they're a bit like zip ties, bit Di2 specific. Some people just use zip ties :)
@AaronGoodTimes
3 жыл бұрын
@@BetterShifting Thanks! :)
On some bikes I see a small black circle thing on the beginning of the seat stay near the bottom bracket, what is that?
You're going to need to do a new one for the 12 speed Di2 groupset :)
Ok you have installed the Di2 now tell use the fine adjustment like in the install manual . Because if I follow your install as shown my Di2 will work but not be turned as per factory manual .
What determines whether your frame is Di2 compatible or not?
Are there any instructions anywhere for this kind of junction box? How do i know what shift mode it's in etc. Is there a key for flashing sequences?
It seems I cannot get my question answered: How do you power the Di2 groupset if you gravel bike has a internally routed dropper post?
how do you route the cables in the bottom bracket. there usually isn't any space there as the bracket and bearings etc take up the whole space for a reason....
Where's the best place to buy ultegra di2 (disc shifters) electronic parts only in the UK
hi, my BB is already installed(press fit) , do i need to take out the BB in order.to.route the wire??
Upgrade your frame? I see a lot of Di2 installs on older non Di2 specific frames by running the cables externally. Not as elegant but....
How many forks does your frameset have?
I just realized it was a rim brake Di2 version, installed on a disc brake bike. A SRAM eTap installation guide hosted by Si years ago was a lot quicker if one decides to tinker with an electronic groupset. This was a good video either way. Cheers!
@gcntech
3 жыл бұрын
Good spot ;)
Great video Alex! Would be nice to use the Di2 plug in tool during the install after showing it at the beginning though 😅
@hermankloet2039
3 жыл бұрын
Same remark
"Hey Alex, should we clean the frame before we install all this sh!t?" "Nah, fck it"
#askgcntech assuming 2 same gear ratios (e.g. 36/18 and 52/26), which gearing will be more efficient and/or feel easier when pedalling?
@homoinspirus
3 жыл бұрын
36/18
I must be missing something here: My Ultegra 11 speed Di2 will not shift into the smallest sprocket (12t) while in the top chainring (53t). Is it possible the front derailleur isn't adjusted over enough and Di2 is telling me it can't shift to the 12? The front derailleur isn't rubbing so I'm doubtful. My bike was fine until I changed to a new cassette. I hope I provided enough info.
What happened to the charging port?
@grimp53
3 жыл бұрын
And to that nice bar-end programming plug?
Prefer first to setup the derailleurs, so you are sure everything is connected. The alignment of will be indeed after you placed your bottom bracket and cranks.
During setup, what if the chain won't shift to the smallest gear on the back? We went into setup mode on the junction box but it still won't shift into the smallest ring on the rear.
@GNX157
2 жыл бұрын
I think on the latest versions of DI2, the system won’t go into the smallest two gears in back when you’re in the small ring up front. Is that your issue?
#GCNTECH Hi I would like some advice on how to store a MTB which has seen a lot of miles and I would like to store it in a barn. what are the best ideas for storing it? (I'm planning to get it repaired and sorted in the future)
@Didyoureallythinkaboutit
3 жыл бұрын
I’d flip it over n put her on her handle bars n seat. Put a bit a hay under the seat to keep it clean. Ought to gitter.
Newbie question, how do you charge the battery? Is there a port provided for charging? Or do you need to take out the battery every time it needs to be charged?
@chrisj5443
3 жыл бұрын
Charge it from a laptop with a provided cable into the upper j-box.
@alexgraves6842
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisj5443 Thanks for the info. 👍
Is this really the way to adjust the high and low limit screws on the RD? Shimano states in the manual that the derailleur position (what would be done with the hi/lo screws on mechanical shifting) is set electronically (Similar to the low limit of the FD) and that the limit screws are just supposed to be touching their "stoppers", with the high limit screw being backed off by one revolution to allow the derailleur to overshift. If you force the derailleur out of position by adjusting it with the limit screws, if I understood this correctly, this can lead to the destruction of the derailleur as it will try to move the derailleur past the limit screws into its calculated position which might fry the motor or power delivery. Shimano is giving a warning about this in the manual.
In adjustment mode for the FD, my FD doesn't seem to make any movements, but the RD does. What is going on? Brand new FD and firmware is up to date.
Heads up to all of those who don't know, Di2 uses PLC (power line communication). That means it doesn't matter which ports your cables are connected to in the controller, as long as they are in-line with the system in some manner.
@smallhatshatethetruth7933
3 жыл бұрын
Like ethernet through power plugs?
I may not have Di2 but my wife does: you're explaining this very well Alex and I look like I know what I'm doing when assistance required .... and I haven't read the Shimano manual (who does?)
@BetterShifting
3 жыл бұрын
I do ;-) ;-) ;-)
Hi Alex. Can i ask you what are this disc rotors. They dont look loke dura Ace. And a other questions. Would dura Ace rotors work ok with ultegra calipers. Tnx 4 answer.
@BetterShifting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they would work :-). Some people also use XT, XTR or Hope rotors :)
Luar biasa,,terima kasih untuk info nya👍👍mekanik idola saya❤️❤️❤️
I don` get how the cables are placed in the frame. Is there a need to adapt the length of the cables? Otherwise they are rattling around in the tubes, aren`t they?
cant wait for di2 105 or even tiagra (impossible)
@mihalis1010
3 жыл бұрын
You'll be waiting a long ass time then.
@gcntech
3 жыл бұрын
who knows! That would be sweet
@maxgarely3628
3 жыл бұрын
Me too but it probably won’t happen because DA and Ultegra is manufactured in a different facility
@certifiedomlayoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxgarely3628 idunno man , wish Shimano can make electronic shifting that are universal
@raspberrylord9550
3 жыл бұрын
105 sure, tiagra mabey not since it is a more beginner groupset.
So I am upgrading from a tiagra wilier izoard xp from 2014 to a pinarello dogma f12 ultegra Di2 2022 in March. I wonder how that is going to feel? xD
Does anyone one know what frame he uses and what other frames that are compatible with shimano di2
Cant i just take a jigsaw to my frame and make it di2 compatible?
Can you do that for a tt bike ?
@BetterShifting
3 жыл бұрын
What questions do you have regarding TT bikes? You'll probably use SM-EW90-B (5 ports) or extra Junctions B (SM-JC41) near the cockpit to allow you to connect 4 TT shifting switches, but other than that it should be similar ;-)
Why was the charging port not included
I’m 5’5 what size fits me
Has Sam Pilgrim been teaching you magic tricks lol?
Can Di2 handy a 3x crank?
@BetterShifting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but only if you use MTB derailleurs.. (which may not fit on a road frame due to the different mounting system for the FD)
i love watching things i cant afford :)
@gcntech
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully as this tech becomes more and more popular the cost will come down as it has to some extent since it's inception, we can only hope!
The cable can go through the stem and handlebars, as long as the top headset is 1-1/2 inches.
Why does everybody stop the video before the hydraulic brakesystem is connected as well ??
Hi friend
Doesn't the wires have grommets?
09:32 Those Vision wheels are sweeeeeettttttt
Rattle rattle rattle.. cables are loose
Please make a video on setting up campagnolo eps.
I love Shimano but wireless Sram etap is better
Why didn’t you use the insertion tool or mention the wireless module?
Do you guys know what handle bar this is? I‘m looking for such a handle bar with an integrated shaft for the junction box
@stijemars6910
11 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m having the same thought. Have you found it yet??
@Der_koelsche_Tornado
11 ай бұрын
@@stijemars6910 Nope not yet 😩
@stijemars6910
11 ай бұрын
@@Der_koelsche_Tornado I found that the vision Merton 5d and 6d have it. But the are north of 400 € in Europe :(
@Der_koelsche_Tornado
11 ай бұрын
@@stijemars6910 I‘m currently more tending to change the junction box to a EW-RS910 A E-Tube that’s within the handlebar. Could be a bit tricky. But definitly a cheaper solution to get the cockpit cleaner :D
@stijemars6910
11 ай бұрын
@@Der_koelsche_Tornado yess true, it’s just some cable routing so I think that’s a good one. I’m going to try to find a second hand aero cockpit haha
Been a lot quite similar videos on the di2 systems from you lately. What about EPS and Etap? Not anything about those.
@gcntech
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Denis, we've made videos on how to set up etap in the past, and we'll probably do one in the future, as well as covering campag systems - we covered the launch of their Ekar system recently and we hope to do more maintenance videos with them in the future!
#askgcntech I have a Di2 2by10 Ultegra and I was wondering if there is a way of reprogramming it to be a 2by11? Thanks guys
@certifiedomlayoo
3 жыл бұрын
highly likely that shimano programmed it specificly for x10 . Reprogramming it maybe need to take the box thingy (or whatever its called) apart and reprogramming it from A-Z
@SaltehBalleh
3 жыл бұрын
No, you can't.. unfortunately.... bettershifting.com/in-depth-guide-on-upgrading-your-old-di2-bike/#upgrade10speedultegra6770di2to11speeddi2
@HouseClubTube
3 жыл бұрын
If you have 2x10 it's quite easy to change to 2x11 if you go di2. The only problem you can have that the rear wheel does not fit 11 speed cassette, otherwise it just adding a 11 speed cassette.
@homoinspirus
3 жыл бұрын
@@HouseClubTube and how my rear derailleur is going to know that now it needs to shift 11 times not 10?
@ebargados
3 жыл бұрын
all you need is to change the rear and front derailleur. the info is on the link provided below. if you want the new features ie. syncro shifting then you'll need the newer battery.
Just in time for the wireless version....
Coming next, wireless Di2?
@gcntech
3 жыл бұрын
Possibly, it definitely makes for easier set up, but comes with other challenges to - would be great to see Shimano enter the wireless game!
@AndrewGrease
3 жыл бұрын
@@gcntech What other challenges? :)
@ldavid2
3 жыл бұрын
@@gcntech Easier set up doesn't matter much as you usually only do it once for every bike. I rather have cables inside the frame than ugly derailleurs with bulky batteries on them.
@raphaeltiziani7476
3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewGrease slower shifting
@AndrewGrease
3 жыл бұрын
@@raphaeltiziani7476 sram wireless is faster than cable actuation, and the physical speed of an electric signal is the same as an electromagnetic wave, so no difference between wireless and cable.
No tags or foam for cables to stop rattles?
The charging port?
@ldavid2
3 жыл бұрын
it's on the junction, which is under the stem on that canyon. newer bikes have it on the down tube, or you can put it in the end of the handlebar.
@SyafulMohamad
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @@ldavid2
Great video, GCN! The only disappointing thing with Di2 is that you need to completely tear down your bike. C’mon, Shimano!
@ldavid2
3 жыл бұрын
That depends on your frame. You could use some magnetic routing tool as well.
@d.2940
3 жыл бұрын
@@ldavid2 do you have any idea how to put wires thru and place junction box without removing cranks and bottom bracket?
Wow they really have made bicycling complicated haven’t they Pretty soon you’re going to need a programmer to just go ride 😂
@herculesmclovin
2 жыл бұрын
Already programmes running on bikes, especially with suspension on mtb, for on the fly adjustments etc.. It's mad
You didn’t use the tags that stop rattling! Or the big big to adjust trim. The official shimano way is to put rear mech on 4th sprocket, adjust down until you make contact, then go 4 micro clicks the other way.
once you cash in your winning lottery ticket........
So since Di2 105 is significantly more expensive than mechanical 105 WAS (🤔??😐?!🤨!!) and a lot of beginners and people on a budget will no longer be able to afford 105 level performance, I guess Tiagra is the new low cost 'high performance' 👉 group set of the people👈 like 105 used to be.
Why is Di2 so expensive? The profit margin on these new must be excessive. Using a canbus system the electronic components are properly minimal. Its almost tempting to make a raspberry pi version to prove it. (And the R & D on canbus was done in the 80s so that's no excuse for the price either)
11:01 *Stops wheel with hand*:o
@certifiedomlayoo
3 жыл бұрын
impossible to do with mtb . road bike tyre are smooth
I would rather install etap axs least no cables ok more expensive but its wireless not like this
Interesting vid. So, to replace the shimano di2 battery (on your endurace) you have to remove the press fitted bottom bracket... How inconvenient Shimano! Sram is better in that regard. That's the kind of information you wished you knew once you bought your bike. I bet 2-3% of people will damage their frame by doing it.
So how do I get that bike?
i can't afford one, at least i can learn how to install one xd
Not sure why he showed the little tool for inserting & taking out the cables but then didn’t use it..........🤔😂
Can you please make a vedio about shimano di2 external cable system installation vedio
Little bit too quick on important parts, pity
Another di2 video? Are they cleaning up stock or will they not release a wireless groupset and still push this to the poor shimano crowd?
Can’t believe how antiquated this seems when compared to srams wireless stuff. I mean your running wires all over the place you might just stick to running cables. fully wireless or gtfo.
"we'll probably want to aim for about half a millimeter gap just to make sure it's not touching, causing any annoying rubbing" sounds like an early 2000's college party survival guide for women
This bike was really easy to assemble kzread.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Am I too broke to understand?
I love Shimano but if they think I'd pay more for their wired system than for the equivalent SRAM completely wireless one they are fucking crazy.
Let's be honest DI2 became obsolete and irrelevant when etap came out
THERE IS A EXTERNAL GEAR CABLE DI2 WITH EXTERNAL DI2 BATTERY SETUP PLEASE PUT A INSTALLATION VEDIO ABOUT IT
I prefer sram red etap 💪🏽