How to Grind Your way to Financial Freedom Playing Poker | Frank "Mr Builderman"
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In episode 35 of the MOPP we chat with one of the biggest volume grinders out there, Frank "Mr Builderman, aka Mayothedon". In this podcast discover how Frank recognized his talent, embraced high-volume play, struggled with adiction, and navigated through the ups and downs of being an online poker pro. Gain valuable lessons on resilience, self-awareness, and finding balance amidst the grind.
0:00 - Introduction
03:51 - Shoutout to our sponsors Universal Poker and GTO Wizard
06:01 - Expectations getting into poker and going pro
08:35 - How Frank knew he had a poker talent
11:10 - Franks high volume approach and 300k hand months
12:05 - The pros and cons of focusing on high volume
14:17 - Thinking of poker in terms of attack and defence
18:53 - Getting banned on Pokerstars and the scar it created
22:00 - Why Frank never wants to play poker against friends
25:20 - His climb to $1KNL and making that his home
27:01 - Interesting meta’s that have happened over 12 years at $1Ks
28:23 - The current meta “people love calling but hate bluffing”
30:00 - Franks gaming background which set him up for mass multi-tabling
31:55 -Playing all day everyday and being obsessed with poker
36:00 - Chasing loses and pushing max variance to get out of holes
39:23 - Not feeling worthy of days off and struggling to find balance
42:04 - How to master the high volume grind
44:49 - Why staying physically active is so important
47:53 - Going into Franks challenges with addiction
51:50 - Risk aversion and avoiding things going too bad
54:00 - Playing over 1 million hands at mid stakes
54:30 - Losing half his bankroll in 1 day playing $5Ks
59:20 - Having to grind the money back at $200NL
1:02:22 - What motivated Frank to keep playing such high volume
1:05:46 - When poker started to feel less enjoyable
1:06:50 - Why Frank always wants to be the best player at the table
1:09:55 - Making more than the high stakes guys and being fixated on the mid-stakes path
1:14:41 - Why Frank doesn’t even look at 100k samples
1:16:54 - Self-awareness and the importance of knowing yourself
1:19:15 - Living with poker players even when breaking from the game
1:20:13 - The Mechanics of Poker 2.0 program
1:22:22 - Going through a 1 million hand break even sample and how he came out of it
1:24:50 - Talking poker at breakfast daily with Linus and Markus
1:27:40 - Having great intuition and Franks main poker strengths
1:30:03 - Why Frank thinks MDA is the worst way to learn poker
1:33:00 - How Frank exploits leaks in the pool
1:36:43 - Some of the most controversial strategies Frank experimented with
1:40:08 - Learning to avoid what is strong and attack what is weak
1:43:15 - Advantages that old school players have on new school players
1:48:30 - Is donk shoving the river the most under bluffed node?
1:48:45 - The worst advice that poker players are given in 2024
1:50:58 - Simplified strategies vs more flexible strategies
1:52:50 - The BitB Cash crushers Frank learns from
1:54:45 - Franks biggest leak in poker to this day
1:58:02 - Why there’s beauty in the struggle and dealing with downswings
2:01:22 - The biggest contributor to Franks success in poker
2:03:07 - A lesson that poker has taught him that he didn’t expect
2:05:25 - How Frank built the self belief he can do hard things
2:07:00 - What Frank has been reflecting on during his break from poker
2:09:26 - Not having down time and struggling being sat with his own thoughts
2:12:52 - The things Frank is doing to create some life balance
2:14:40 - Why Frank likes making progress towards a goal
2:17:46 - Learning to enjoy the journey and what he would do different
2:20:20 - What he is most excited about going forward
2:22:47 - The times when Frank is his happiest
2:26:15 - Franks message to the audience
2:31:26 - Adam and Renes main takeaways
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A true online OG of the game - excited for this one
Skaters will be confused if they see my comment 🤫 Fond memories taping garbage bags to his window so we wouldn’t get glare grinding in his bedroom. Absolutely legendary career, wishing frank the best ❤️
@MRBU1LD3RM4N
2 ай бұрын
bro u better believe my windows are still bagged up TO THIS DAY
@rki5462
Ай бұрын
I'll never forget his super hole session in the Crouch End poker den. Or the 4am Greaball mopeds.
@rki5462
Ай бұрын
Ah the 54 minute bit!
10/10 - as a non poker player, even I found this super inspiring. Shoutout frank, he has grinded (or ground maybe lol) his way to a frequency of greatness, not many people can say they’ve achieved that frequency in their lives & it’s super inspiring to see. Great hosting too, really good questions asked & I loved that frank was given the opportunity to just speak freely, which is the god tier of podcast hosting - many times hosts speak too much about themselves & ask very basic questions which don’t allow the guest to come in and provide such value, so 10/10 all round, the 2 & a half hours flew by & that’s me as a non poker player, never played it in my life… so I imagine as a poker player this would’ve hit so hard 👏🏼
frank comes across as so honest, humble, and transparent. you can tell he's really thinking before he speaks, and wants to give a real answer to every question. what an amazing interview, full of insight into the real raw, human quality of the game. i really appreciated both the thoughtful questions and answers. thanks guys
One of the better episodes. Really appreciated Frank’s honesty and openness. Good luck with whatever comes next Frank
this story is one of a kind legend
lol I remember scout326 (or whatever) on PokerStars, he was a gigantic whale from Russia I believe. I had 20K on Stars and he was playing 25/50 and I decided to sit. My heart was beating out of my chest. I remember getting allin with him pf with QQ vs his AK and holding. I was breathless and so pumped when the board ran out clean. I finished that session up a little over 6k but I played like a huge nit even folding a set of 2’s on the turn when in hindsight I never should have. I was just playing way too big. Anyway, great podcast and thanks for the content and memories. Good luck at the tables!
What a great Interview - Whatever Frank was, when he disliked himself - he became such a beauty of human - loved listening to his story. Thanks guys!
Been waiting for this one 🔥🔥 hoping to see more current players like the top Spanish regs, makeboi, Linus or even some top MTT guys like C Darwin and Lena. Easily the best poker content on KZread thanks so much guys
Until now I have seen Tom Dwan as the End Boss of poker. Now I am not so sure. 52 hr. grind; WTF!
Of all of the content I've viewed for poker paid or free.....this is pod is worth its listen 20 fold.....ridic
Great episode! Lots of great mental tidbits to digest. Thank you Frank for sharing story. Adam and Rene, you guys are awesome!🔥🔥🔥Stay blessed.🙏🏽
Thx Adam, Rene and Frank for this interview.
My fav episode so far. Absolute crusher and very forthcoming.
fuerte 🔥 muchas gracias, Frank! y muchas gracias a Adam y René 🙏🏽 the 15-minute meditation story was amazing 😆
beyond hyped for this one
Love the pod I listen to them all
Hope all is well Frank. Good to see the old stars fr small stakes crew still at it
what is David Backham doing in a poker podcast?
Absolute legend!
even as a MTT player i felt i learn so much from u guys. ❤
Remember playing him on GG nl500 and nl1k. I play live almost exclusively now. MMAPikachu(Darkwshadow)-Slovakia flag. Easily one of the best regs at that pool, aggressive machine. Glad to see you crush it, bro.
@Peter-vv8ym
2 ай бұрын
Hey man I’m slowly grinding up the stakes online and my goal is to one day make a living playing 2/5+ live play. Do you know about how much u make hourly and at what stake?
@Peter-vv8ym
2 ай бұрын
Also very cool to see people that have been playing so long I wish I was playing when solvers first came out
@Yilikeitthisway
2 ай бұрын
@@Peter-vv8ym I wish I was old enough to play early 2000s when nobody had a clue. Around 90$ an hour on 2/5. I can get slightly more playing higher but there are more and better regs so you battle it more. I am still not at level I can make more than 150$ an hour playing even 50/100. I would say I am pretty mediocre reg, tho, a crusher can make a ton.
@warrenbluffit2048
20 күн бұрын
@@Peter-vv8ymyou need to have an almost obsessive/addicting love for the game, most successful players have this which is why they played for a big part of their life, if your dream is just to play poker for the money side then you will never be able to endure the mental challenges of this game.
True legend
prob the best guest😍😍
OMG YOU GAVE ME MY WISH THE GOAT THE KING MRBUILDERMAN
That was my mistake to not build a network Great podcast Thank you guys All the best
bow in the presence of greatness
@BenaBadBeatPoker
2 ай бұрын
here he is
@user-qf8ef5ev3p
2 ай бұрын
@@BenaBadBeatPoker bena bald beat
@BenaBadBeatPoker
2 ай бұрын
@@user-qf8ef5ev3p yes jeff green, yes
@scottalford7393
2 ай бұрын
@@BenaBadBeatPoker love to see an old FR ledgend. Stevie gonna be next?
I understand nothing in poker, but this guy🤤
@george_ymb
Ай бұрын
🤪
An actual twoplustwo legend and please dont refer to Steve as “this Steve guy”. Smbsmbsmb is just as big a legend.
@MechanicsOfPoker
2 ай бұрын
Aaah, smbsmb is Steve, makes sense now
@BenjaminRaven
2 ай бұрын
lmaooo the most underrated comment here
@MRBU1LD3RM4N
2 ай бұрын
trust me@@BenjaminRaven
im trying to move up, but im on a similar situation like him, im a nl100 grinder, and im pretty sure im the best player at the table, i aways get first place on the leaderboards, if i lose it doesnt hurt me, and i tried to play nl500, and got so fkd, lost 11 bi'ns in 3 hours and quit, and then this feeling of "why did i do that?" and now it will take me 3 weeks more or less to get the money back, but, ok, i will try to get better, try different ways of playing and improve, so i can beat, i think up to nl1k its a good idea to move up, above that, i think he is right, its not worth it because you have such a low volume that its not worth it, i bet he makes more money than nl10k players.
Were do i find his 2+2 blog?
Mr builderman can i get a link to that whiteboard you have in the background?
The Markkos Frank mentions is MakuFz? If so, you should bring him on the podcast!
@MechanicsOfPoker
2 ай бұрын
No its makeboifin he is referring to. Asked MakuFZ, wasn’t interested
@alocksw
2 ай бұрын
Got it, thanks@@MechanicsOfPoker !
I thought my 12 hr sessions were insane
Why isn't this on Spotify?
@MechanicsOfPoker
2 ай бұрын
Because i needed a reminder 😂 check now
Sick algo find wtf is happening👀👀👀
SO why did he quit poker now ?
Wonder how much he makes per month?
@user-qf8ef5ev3p
2 ай бұрын
hard to say, probly anywhere from 20k to 100k
maximal punishment bec u just avoid playing vs each other, kinda brutal. no warning or else. seems pretty drastic.
He still hasn't taken ownership of what he did. The idea that he would spend hours studying poker and "never thought about it" when it came to his actions in this case is just not believable by a thinking person. He did what he did knowing it was wrong and he should own that. We have all done or will do something knowing it is wrong but when you don't own it, it tells me you're trying to hide something.
he just described himself as a total addict , others say he had a great passion , it wasnt , it was an addict who somehow managed to become sucessfull at poker.
@lockyer0061
2 ай бұрын
He was dedicated and found a process for him to succeed in Poker … it wasn’t the addiction that fueled his success
How to grind your way to mental health issues is a more apt title (for like 99% of the population)
he's decent but he's no lilsquirrel
Second
First! 😊
Sixth
'Promo SM' 🤪
Gambler concession
Loved the episode. Really interesting guest