That’s an awesome video. Thanks for the info.

Very informative, thank you!!

Excellent video, thank you very much!!

Great Info and Information, thanks for sharing.

Great video, you’re a good man for sharing all this.

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate the nice comment!

Great informative video! You're making it easy for me... Finally got my car ordered this week. Went with a 2021 Super Stock in indigo blue and basically no options except the rear seat delete and performance spoiler. Should be about the lightest example of one (for the wide bodies anyway). Thanks for all the vids--once I saw that blue on yours, I was sold!

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, congrats on the order! Good spec too 😎

Great video Thanks

Hey Sauer watched the video and shared it out to. Have a blessed day and weekend.🙏🏾

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again as always!

great video btw - perfect!

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you liked it!

Love it thank you very much

best video you have made so far....

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Excellent explanation. I have a 2015 Hellcat with a number of mods to the engine. I have not gotten the wheels....yet..but that is on the list of must get stuff. I am currently running a 20x10 rim in back with MT Drag Radials. I am struggling to get the car to leave correctly. I was told by HHP after they installed the whipple that he leaves in manual on the paddle shifter - you shift to first and stage - you have apprx 7 seconds, (I have not preloaded the brakes, but will in the future as you recommended); then launch the car. It will shift gears. the reason for this is that this is supposedly the best, constant way to race the car as apparently there are a number of shift sequences that the computer may select and the use of the paddle shift into first eliminates that. I also have a 2021 Super Stock and want to try what you recommend with that..thanks!

Awesome video brother! Super informative. I feel like I should do a "go over all the mods" video or comment every week or two. LOL...

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Yea for real, your video would be LONG! 🤣

Great video. Thanks

Good video those 3.09 help you get moving fast you go form first to third fast mine has way more space between them!

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Time to get you that gear!

I race my Scat Pack at my local track, I do really well best of 11.78 (with Drag Pack). Great vide btw o. Triple

Great explanation just got rid of my M6 Hellcat and bought an automatic and was curious on how to leave the starting line great video liked and subscribed 👍

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, thanks for the sub!

@kornstory

2 жыл бұрын

I have the m6. How do you like the automatic?

Great Info and video. I’d like to know how you run the power chiller between runs.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Really don’t use it until it’s time to go up to the staging lanes and race. As soon as I start the car I put it on track mode and that’s it. During the summer I will use the race cool down feature on the car if I’m hot lapping.

Thanks

Thank you for the video...question? Why do you not use launch mode?

Love the video! I thought I remember you saying you had shortened sway bar links as well?

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

You are right, completely forgot about them 😅

@Miketsi1986

3 жыл бұрын

Love your vids man! I’m hoping to get a Redeye soon and I’ll be following your advice. I can’t believe your channel doesn’t have 100k+ subs. Awesome content.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! We got some work to do to get to 100k. 🤣 Hopefully one day we will get there!

Hi great video, how much difference have you seen between loading the brake and idle launches? My stock Hellcat is quicker off idle 10 9 and 10 7 with passengers and rear seat and sub removed. I have a WB Redeye on the way

Great walk through video, but I like my smoky burnouts.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Nice now all I need is a hellcat

you should run street suspension, track trans, street suspension softens it up and helps with the weight transfer to the rear tires

@cpogto4199

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that as well but hard to argue with his 60 times and ET....

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

I have tried both setting back to back, no change in 60’ times. And the benefits of the power chiller in track mode seem to be worth more than the slightly softer suspension.

Hey Mr Sauer...very comprehensive video...I got a real kick out of the statements on the oil catch can. FYI - My 2020 Redeye with 1500 street miles collected maybe a 1/2 teaspoon and there was more water (condensation) than oil. I also enjoyed reading the comments and responses. There must be something special about your front Welds. The 18" Demon wheels are not supposed to fit the fronts of the Redeyes except the new 2021 Super Sports...rotor and brake size differences. The wheel barrels must be a little different. If I get motivated I'll try to fit the Demon 18"s on my front. (I don't want to ding up the brake calipers trying to get them on.) You addressed every question I have ever asked and I still learned a couple of things like the brake pumping...in my opinion much better on the engine longevity than using the Launch Control (2-step) that cuts spark from individual cylinders to keep the RPMs down or so I have heard. I also heard here on KZread from a Mopar Demon design engineer that launch control is meant for street use and not a prepped surface. I also thought the chiller could be used independent of Track Mode. The only thing you missed telling us was that although not mods in your case, the 3.09 diff and rear seat delete came from the factory options that not everyone gets. Just wondering, did you ever have to get your track rear tires to the strip in the Challenger? I couldn't figure out how to get both in the trunk...the fold down rear seats was a joke and not a good one. Have had to order the rear seat delete...no way I'm putting track tires in the rear seats. Great video....BE SAFE Just watched the end of the video. It would be nice if you can get a camera focused in on your instrument panel especially at night. You are the first to mention that in Line Lock the wheel spin comes up on the panel. Cone nuts.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

A lot to talk about here, I’ll do my best 🤣 .. as far as I’m aware the power chiller can not be turned on separately from track mode with stock tuning (maybe the aftermarket tuning has that option), yes I do remember the video you are talking about with the SRT engineer so that’s why I dont really use launch control (plus it takes to long to setup while actually racing), I was able to get all 4 wheels and tires in the Hellcat, that is if you don’t mind putting them on the rears seats (in my case I have the delete so it didn’t bother me), next time I do a burnout with the line lock I will try to get a better view of it for you. Thanks for watching as always!

@jcasey460

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Sorry Chris I get a bit long winded at times...it was just that this is one of the most comprehensive videos I've seen. Good Job! Did some research on the Chiller. My 2020 has a specific selection for the chiller on the Race Options page which also includes Line Lock and Shift Light. Apparently the 2019 does not include it and you have to be in Track Mode just like you said. I looked at my OEM Demon 18x11" wheels w/ -4.5mm offset. The barrel is smooth like the stock wheels meaning no step changes in the ID (there is a concave half round out near the rim but it does not impact the fit). There is a 1" taper in the ID, At the hub 16-5/8" and at the tire mount 17-5/8". Rough measurement from axle centerline to outer edge of brake caliper is 8-1/2" at the hub so you need 17" ID at the hub. Yep, the Demon wheels don't fit the fronts without the brake conversion. Rear Seat Delete should be here this week. Coming from Hickory NC. 15% MOPAR accessory and performance parts coupon helps.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

@@jcasey460 oh that’s nice, didn’t know they separated the power chiller on the 2020’s wish I had a 2020 now 🤣

@jcasey460

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Yea but then you would probably want the 2021...this evening I confirmed the chiller operation in other than track mode. As it turned out there was 2 different pages that the chiller could be selected. One page would not activate but on the other it did. When the chiller was selected the screen will show the supercharger and another chiller button on the right. Hitting that button did nothing but from the other page the supercharger changed color from red to blue or green and a message across the top of the screen indicated the chiller was activated. The button also changed when the chiller was activated. I have no idea why the first screen did not work. You probably already know this but something you might want to think about is getting the Smart Access Cable and the interface to be able to copy your original tune and start collecting data (data logging). I recently got the HPTuners to be able to data log. I won't be doing any tuning until further into the warranty. If/when you change fuel or pulley, you will need to adjust the tune and watch your ETs drop and MPH rise. If you go with E85 you really need to be able to put in a more conservative tune if you happen to get a bad tank full. It could be the difference in have to replace an engine. BE SAFE

how do you feel about a standard body redeye hellcat. Waiting on a 2022 now.

Hey brother would you recommend the same psi for stock 20”? I have went ahead and added the nt555rii to the rear and kept the stock pirelli in the front. I’m reading I should run about 26 psi in the rear what about the front? What about the burn out and launch rpm? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

So holding the OK button holds the line lock once its activated? ? and you use the launch control or no?I had a real tough time trying to figure this all out?

Great video. Do you have the 2.62 or 3.09 gears? Just wondering if that’s a worthwhile option on these cars.

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

3.09 gear, it’s usually worth about .1 sec in the 1/4 but you do lose gas mileage. All depends on what you are looking for in the car.

Great video, do you have a tune?

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

No tune.

First thank you for the video truly appreiciate it. I will use this advice at the track. you could make some money selling a info track card for the settings we could put in the car or dash. My other question is for the mexico roll race setup say a 40mph or 60mph roll race? Can you give the best setting and driving mode for this? I would like to hold 2nd or 3rd gear but still have the car auto shift so not to miss or over rev it. Any addvice ? also driving setting. I know you have sold the car but hopfully you can give us guys that are hanging on to them for life some info on roll racing. Thanks

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

Your best bet for roll racing would be to just leave the car in track mode so you get your power chiller going. Use manual mode to drop the gears down and once you hit the throttle slap the gear stick back over to auto and you should be good to go from there.

So just to be clear. After the burnout, you DO NOT turn traction control back on for the launch?

What's the offset for the fronts? Link won't work. Thanks!

Where did you get the front tires

Great video I have to say, I'm going to take my 2017 Hellcat Challenger to the track and there is one thing I missed in the video ? did you leave the start line with the traction control on or off I know you turned it off for the burnout but not sure if you turned it back on for the run ??? Thank You

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

I leave it off for the whole pass.

How do I learn how to do the burn out in manual

If you leave the suspension is street mode you’ll get better weight transfer

you don't use launch mode that the car offers?

Is that color indigo or frostbite?

Holy shit I’ve been running 14 psi on the rear with the same set up 🤣🤣

I have a 2021 Challenger Hellcat Wide Body Red Eye, would you know are there any Mods needed to the drive shaft for 1/4 mile runs with racing slicks?

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

At stock power levels your driveshaft should be fine, if you plan to add any power then you would need to look into changing to a single piece aluminum or carbon fiber driveshaft.

@Redtrucksalesint

2 жыл бұрын

Great thanks again for the fast reply

So strange I’ve ran s71’s on the last 3 cars and have never had a fitment issue

Where is the best place to get them rims

Prob no oil in the catch can because oil/liquid can’t travel vertical up a hose very well.

For the front runners did you have to trim your caliper in order for the 18” to fit?

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

No just make sure any wheel weights that are added when balancing don’t touch the calipers

Hi Mr. Sauer...on rear tire pressure, what are the symptoms that tell you that you need to increase tire pressure? thanks

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

You want to try to run them as high as possible without them spinning (usually). The higher you can get them will allow for better rolling resistance going down the track which would help with trap speed. On the ET Street Rs the sweet spot seems to be around 17-18psi. If the tire is squatting too much and wrinkling without moving the car forward equally they are probably too low. Best way to see this is with someone filming the launch from the back.

@jcasey460

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Thanks.

Looked up this video after the last 3 times I launched it I almost spun.

What psi you front bruh?

I haven’t been to a drag strip yet however I have the same tire set up and I have found 24 psi in the rear as the sweet spot and for the fronts I was under the impression not to fun over 40? Guess I’m way off

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

Tire pressures can vary based on track conditions, if you have found pressures that are faster for you and your track I wouldn’t change them.

I can not find your video where you trimmed your inner fender. If you can, send me a link please. I have a very similar setup but I’ve had to order a set of sway bar end links to make it work already. with the wheels on without tires and suspension drooped it looks very close to inner fender. I was already wondering if I was going to need a set of spacers.

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I had it included in one of my videos, but I can not find it either... there is a small section that protrudes out on the fender liner that you can cut off fairly easily in order to clearance them from the wheels.

@jaystepp150

2 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower i put on the end links and mounted the drag wheels, drove down the road didn’t hear rubbing, but they are really close to the inner fender that pooches out because of a wire under the liner. I may need a small spacer to be sure. I finally caught the Covid the next day haven’t messed with them since.

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I ran a 3mm spacer just to be on the safe side.

so the track lets you run 10's with no cage and no drive shaft loop?

@SauerHorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the NHRA rules changed in 2018 changing it to 9.99 or quicker for a cage.

My question; Why so high a pressure in the front tyres ? I'd have thought that the normal/recommended pressure would be around 30-40 PSI.....

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

Higher pressures = lower rolling resistance

Yo

Have you tried torque reserve at the track yet? I haven't yet.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

It automatically activates when you build revs to launch, it a passive system so there is nothing you need to do to activate it. I believe it works between 1000-2000 rpm.

@REDZ28won

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower No, You have to activate it. I have done it. It makes your car sound totally different and builds like 3 psi of boost. I just have never tried it at the track.

@REDZ28won

3 жыл бұрын

The demons have it and they make 8 psi of boost but no one uses it for some reason.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to test it, but I was always under the impression that on Redeye’s and Demon’s it activates passively on the foot brake. But I will check on that this weekend.

@REDZ28won

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Ya, try it. Ill go check and see on mine what you have to do.

Did you change driveshaft ? If not have you had any issues with the stock one ?

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

I never changed the driveshaft, never had any issues with the stock one.

@tommer12698

Жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower thank you. Also do you run 17x10 or 17x11 ?

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

17x10

@Wentworth707

Жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Would there be a problem with the 17x11 S908 #s90871171P06 I was thinking of these for my redeye. Funny those front are 500 more each?? Did you buy direct from weld or order tires and all through supply vendor?

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

I ordered mine through Carlyle Racing. The 17x11s should fit well on a widebody car, on a narrow body they will poke some.

How are you fitting 18 inch wheels on the front?

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

18in wheels clear the front brakes on the Hellcat. Haven’t had any issues with them.

@markurbancowboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower I can bearly get my wash mit between the calipers and the wheel when I clean them. This is a 20 inch wheel. Dang, can't see how you fitting 18 up front??

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a tight fit for sure but it will work 🤣

@markurbancowboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower Lol, it must be paper thin clearance!😁👍

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Clearance is clearance 🤣🤣

Dont use track mode at the drag strip bud. It stiffens rear suspension which reduces the travel of energy from back to front. Basically your car can't squat as low as it could in street mode or sport which translates to wheel spin for all factory setups or street tires and no rear diff brace.

What is your rear axle ratio ?

@SauerHorsepower

Жыл бұрын

3.09

@Srt_Kev

Жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower gotcha

Excellent video, thanks!

U better then me i wouldn’t give away my sercets

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

The amount of questions I answer... just made sense to make a video on it.

@mr.megatron6334

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauerHorsepower I feel ya it was great content as always bro

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro!

Can’t get my hellcat to stop spinning at dragstrip 😡

Most important part folks is the tire setup. Please don’t think you can do this on just any type of tire setup and still hook cause you won’t 😂

I am disappointed i heard you have pcm reflash.Thats why there is no records no proof.A stock pcm, heavy car,good size driver dont add up.Every one i have seen with drag pak 10.30 maybe high 20's in crazy da.If your car doesnt weigh 4000 or less with stock power its not happening.It will take an extra 75 hp to do that.I have been there.These cars are mass produced they all run the same stock.My Redeye stock pcm,no pullies with 500 lbs of weight reduction went 9.91 at 138and 10.30 at 132 with just drag pak.i am only 155lbs,my car weight with driver is 4140.If i show up at Cecil Are you willing to let me pull tune file from pcm,give quick visual for a $500 bet(easy money for 15mins and bragging rights)?Stock Redeyes are a 10.30 maybe 20with crazy da not 10.00 car.

@SauerHorsepower

3 жыл бұрын

I will 100% take that bet any time or any day of the week that my PCM and entire powertrain is stock as delivered from the factory. Say when.

@mattreinke7722

3 жыл бұрын

Your gonna be mad when you hand over $500 for nothing 😂

I have a Mighty Mouse catch can and nothing in mine so far after 2 oil changes 🥲 happy but sad I spent the money on it lol my cars been to the track in that time maybe 10 or 12 times and run it on the street pretty well.