Can we take a second to appreciate the the drum mix

NeuralDSP are the bomb! Their Nolly and Parallax plugins are one of my favorite distortion plugins!

The TSE BOD is a go-to plugin for me when it comes to bass - such a great plugin! I use this similarly to get that gritty-clean(ish) sound and then normally run a duplicate DI track in parallel with a Logic amp sim for the dirtier sound. I have used 2 instances of the BOD to get the same sound before though.

@canilhan98

2 жыл бұрын

which amp do you use for the dirty layer?

@ThomDumdust

2 жыл бұрын

@@canilhan98 it really depends on what I feel it needs. Sometimes I'll just use a guitar amp and drive it hard, high pass/low pass and blend to taste.

No one talks about how to do this live. There’s a few ways. Here’s an easy way. You can get this same tone with a few cheaper pedals.. Bass-any od/dist (with a blend knob)-comp(fast release/attack and 4:1-8:1 ratio)-sansamp(max-out the blend knob)-power amp… Turn off od and dial-in the sansamp/comp. Then, turn off the sans/comp and scoop out the lows on the od/dist pedal and add highs/drive to taste. turn the sansamp/comp back on and use the blend knob on the od/dist to taste

Thanks for this! I used to use the TSE BOD on all my projects, back when I was a broke newbie and used only free plugins. When I replaced them all with good stuff a couple years ago, I forgot about it, and only recently dug it up again and rediscovered how useful it was. If I'm doing the tracking myself, I like to use the VT Bass DI, which is their Sansamp with the SVT vibe already baked in, but the BOD is a lifesaver for projects where all I had was a clean DI track. And I'll still use it now for sections that need an additional, grindy thing mixed in.

Nembrini Audio has a couple PSA1000 plugins, one of which can do mid/side processing. If you catch them on sale they’re really affordable and work great

@jackkosto

4 жыл бұрын

Seconded on this, and useable for non Pro Tools Mac folk!

The DSP Darkglass is just absolutely perfect imo, you can get basically anything you could ever need with it. It comes with the Microtubes and the Vintage preamps ALONG with a CAB IR reader for it with the well produced IR's. I also like the joey sturgis Hellraiser toneforge for getting insane fat and clanky basstones for something like low-tuned djent.

@xsonicassassinx

4 жыл бұрын

it drives me nuts how there is no love for the vintage.

@Upsetkiller456

4 жыл бұрын

@@xsonicassassinx The vintage is soooo fucking good. Especially when you are going for a more classic style sound overall or really want the bass to be in more of the forefront!

I'm not big on the sansamp plugins. I could never get what I wanted out of it. I still to this day use guitar amps from Podfarm. As weird as that sounds. Also I finish it off with the CLA bass plugin which sonically completes any bass tone 100%. Great vid btw!

Amazing darkglass sound of bass . Also the drum sounds is fantastic.

Nice video, the dark glass sounds great mixed with the drums. I'd also recommend the JST hellraiser plugin for bass, you can separate out the lows and highs, individual 'clank' knob and a switch for subharmonic lows. I used to spend hours trying to get these tones between 2 copies of the D.I, just sounds amazing right out of the box.

Excellent video Jordan!! All the best from Greece!

I recently bought Sphene LE by Audified for 2 dollars. It is RIDICULOUSLY good for the cost. I actually tried it on guitar first for the lolz, as long as blend is 100%, you'll get some fantastic sounds for guitar too. The built in cab is cool, but I switched it off and used god's cab IR with a blend of bright/dark mics. Best in-the-box tone I've ever heard, with the exception of the neural stuff.

I just discovered that Softamp PSA-1 plugin exist from another YT video. Came to comment about it since you're the reason I learned about the Bod plugin and wanted to share the news but I see someone else has commented about it too.

Absolutely love the Sansamp PSA1 plug-in. It’s always on every bass track I mix. Great video !!!

Awesome tone and tutorial! I tried the BOD and like it quite a bit! But i like the Brainworx Ampeg SVT-3PRO more. It sounds amazing and i can get tone pretty close to the Darkglass plugin with a tube screamer before the amp! Another signal chain i tried that worked quite well was using the SVT-3PRO for most of the sound and processing a DI in parallel with the Audified Sphene LE (which costs $4) on the most distorted preset, high pass it to taste and blend it in!

Had no clue Tech 21 did this one for free! I've always been a huge fan of Dug Pinnick's bass tone ("Pretend" from the Dogman album) and know he's partnered with Tech 21 so this is a huge win!

Damn! The Darkglass Plugin has an Alex Webster preset. I need to grab this.

I use the BOD , great free plugin, so glad you showed me this, I usually run mine into a bass amp sim (GK amp LE), I did not think to try JUST the BOD, will give that a shot thanks!!!

@chadmarx7718

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use a bass cab with the bod?

I would LOVE to have a new SM58! Thanks for your content and this contest! Always enjoy your videos!

NEURAL DSP PLUG INS are ABSOLUTELY INSANE MAN

Nembrini Audio has a nice PSA1000 plugin which is on sale from time to time.

What are your thoughts on Forrester Savvell's method? He splits the signal and uses different amps (including guitar amps) for different frequency ranges, and his results are obviously incredible

I have the Neural DSP Darkglass but recently I’ve been using this TSE BOD, CLA bass combo that sounds pretty dope

What bass guitar did you use to record this? Sounds great.

Great stuff! My go-to for Bass is my UA Ampeg SVT Plug In and I ave an old outboard Sans Amp which I dig but will definitely check out that plug in. Perfect timing as right now I'm mixing a song I did with 2 of the guys in Accept and Alice Cooper's Bass player :). Thanks Jordan!

@heyiplaybassguitar

2 жыл бұрын

Using the "plugin alliance" version of the Ampeg SVT and it sounds amazing! Definitely helps get that grindy tone with a pretty convincing speaker emulation setup! That sounds like a great gig! Cheers!

I don't mix things that are as metal/hardcore than your videos, more like heavy rock / stoner but a lot of your videos are very helpfull to me !

Always looking for that phat BASS. Thanks again Jordan. Off to download the BOD now! Have been using another free plugin, Bass Professor which is pretty good. But keen to mix it up and try something new. \m/

Amazing Jordan! Thank you! I work with Reaper, so I think I'll try the BOD, however, for MIDI Bass, I've been using MODO BASS, works great because it has different bass models and sounds good for me as a Beginner! Greetings from Chile!

PS - Kush plugins REDDI does a fantastic job adding fullness and life to a bass track. I've had the recent epiphany that just plugging a bass directly into an Apogee Duet interface might record a clean track, but it's missing some magic that happens in more professional setups. I've started to wonder how much I've been overmixing to compensate for something like the simple lack of a DI box preceding what captures the signal. Same on mic'ed tracks, mainly vocals.

your DI sounds better than what my processed bass tracks sound like, PLEASE go over that, go over everything

great timing, i've been down the bass mixing rabbit hole lately. FYI for mac users who aren't on pro tools, Nembrini PSA1000 seems to be a close match. I need to just buy it and give it a run. TSE BOD does sound great but I can't seem to get quite the same "clacky" presence on pick attack with it. It's been helpful though to blend in overall body for the bass sound. I have a physical Darkglass pedal around here somewhere (the vintage one) but seeing the plugin in action, seems like a valuable tool to control in real-time. It's so hard to commit to sounds like that during tracking, particularly when you might want to stack 3 or 4 instances of the same bass performance as you've done here to achieve the final sound. thanks for putting this together!

@heavymetalmixer91

4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried using more oversampling?

@bobbymcauliffe7333

4 жыл бұрын

*a close match for Sansamp plugin

@bobbymcauliffe7333

4 жыл бұрын

@@heavymetalmixer91 I've played with it in some saturation plugins but admittedly didn't know it could make a big difference. reading up on it now. has it worked out for you?

@heavymetalmixer91

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobbymcauliffe7333 For me it does, for does it for you?

You're my hero man, genuinely.

Holy shit it's mandroid echostar! Love that band

I'd love to see the bass bus settings you use as well, I do a lot of parallel processing too, but I use my pedals through a DI box.

@AdriSkynet

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see that too!

@TonySmithDrums

4 жыл бұрын

I as well

I do like the sansamp sound but I have started using bassdude amp sim from PA since I got it.........it works for me. CLA bass is great too.

What would be great is if you can make a video on how to simulate a bass guitar using your guitar. I usually pitch shift but i think it would be helpful to see how you would do it to get it closer to a bass guitar.

The SansAmp was definitely the best.

Mammoth by Aurora DSP works for me!

They are all new to me but i have now downloaded TSE BOD and i'm willing to see if i like or need it or what comes up from it.

hey man great bass tone man and great video keep up the great work man sounds great

my takeaway from this video is that the hardware sansamp sounds really good. all the plugins sounded substantially worse.

I dont really need that heavy of a bass tone, so i use scheps omni with the saturation, or a slate preamp. But that bod plugin might be cool, and its free.😎

This plugin is used on all the bass tracks on every album.

Great vid. Thanks. Any chance youd make a video on VSTi drums to use in metal. Favorite kits, mixing etc?

Been using the sans amp plug in. I've used my svt4 pro for years going in as my di. I go for the cleaner full tone first then I bus or duplicate the track and add sans amp to bring up the drive or crunch for the song.

This one flies under the radar but Sphene Pro from Audified is a pretty good contender to NeuralDSP Parallax.

need MOREEEEEEEEE bass tracks

I don't see the Artist Mix, don't you use that anymore? Replaced with Fader Port it seems? I use Sansamp/muliband compression/EQ and blend it with the DI. Here's a tip for you: use a spectral designer, e. g. SPL, to fresh up a boring DI track. Or really boost the sustain in a much cleaner way than distortion will do. It kind of like going from a passive to a active bass pickup. It can sometimes save a poor recorded guitar DI too... Cheers mate! 😊

drum tone?

Been using BOD with another TSE Audio Bass Head (which I can't remember the name of) followed by Rosen Pulse using some AMPEG IRs. Very similar sound to this after all post processing

Awwsome. Is this tge only method you use or do you also split the bass signal into a low end and a midrange track, keeping the low end clean and compressed so it's nice and even. Cheers man.

Bong Of Destiny!

I using the Dsp..with darkglass..for bass .. DSP Nolly,NTS for gutars.. and ezdrummer2 to program drums.. all within logic prox..I want to spend .ore time creating music that sounds pro. While streamlining it as mu h as possible any tips tricks advice for this workflow would be a blessing.. I have a real bad habit of overthinking Andover complicating things intend to get stuck in that sometimes God bless li e your channel! Raymond

Pick/fingers, and style of approach (along with a bass players ability to self-level), has everything to do with what any plugin can do. My biggest issues I find is that the bass player is very inconsistent and his instrument of choice is not setup correctly. Once they are in the studio with thier fav rig...its kind of a moot point, we're fixing problems...not enhancing tone. Enhancing tone comes after the "fixing".

What's your opinion on dark glass vs parallax for metal? They have a sale right now and I can't test them.

Ive used a hardware sansamp for 12 years and have never needed anything else in the bass chain.

Just to know if you are using any bass cab sims?

The only reason I sometimes miss my Protools is the sansamp ...WHEN WILl IT BE NATIVE AU ?????Becaus the BOD is soooo boring,,,,,and very muddy sounding...The sans amp emulation Protools offers still is so legit!

What was the bass gtr and chain used to record the di?

what kind of bass are you using?

Who is the band? The song sounds sick

@troyclemens

4 жыл бұрын

Search “Mandriod Echostar - The Sleeper”. I remembered as soon as the lead guitar started 😁

I like NeuralDSP....

Jesus, drums are awesome, too... 🤦🏼‍♂️

Am I deaf? I feel like I can't hear the bass in the mix at all...

@xsonicassassinx

4 жыл бұрын

most of these plugins cause a pretty heavy scoop. the bass "sits" perfectly but tends to disappear. gotta be careful with your mids. i guess it also depends on the project. if what a band wants is a wall of precise guitar/bass, then distinguishing one from the other isn't particularly critical. i think of a lot of "rise-core" in this example.

@Espresso101

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes its one of those things where you feel like you can't here it but as soon as you hit the mute button it's obvious that it's gone. That's how well he's got that bass locked in with the guitars.

Personally, I can't really jam bass unless I have that sansamp.... Just can't feel it without...