"no substitute for character" wow, piercing comment that John glossed over unfortunately.

@rocco1267

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@benchartrand3014

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he does that. This guy is interesting sometimes. He interviews people I like to hear from. But his takes are not always on the level. Most recently, the way he portrayed the Russia/Ukraine situation was particularly egregious. He tried to portray Zelenskyy as messianic, rather than the corrupt clown that instigated the whole situation, and completely disregarded Ukraines culpability in bringing about the crisis.

JP .... keeping it real as usual. Glad he's around.

A wonderful, instructive, sobering conversation. Thank you.

I lived and worked in Ethiopia from 1977 to 1983 during the years of the Red Terror. I saw it happen just as described here.

This may be John’s best work as an interviewer. Insightful and probing but careful not to make it all about him. Nicely done.

@ExistentialWill

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing about this is "insightful" or "probing" but is flattering and enabling Peterson to be even more resentful and ideological. Astonishing that you don't see this.

@TheMichaelMove

2 жыл бұрын

@@ExistentialWill people who hate reality will always hate Peterson

@jamesm.3307

Жыл бұрын

How dark do you have to be to force the treaty of Versailles on Germany, with a war debt so crushing that the republic collapses? Sorry, the British interviewer doesn't want to go there.

Brilliant discussion! Thank you John

Civics classes should be taught again (to my knowledge this was removed from our public systems decades ago). People should know how our government SHOULD work.

@ravinmud

Жыл бұрын

Who is the 'our' in your 'public systems'? In public schools here in my state, civics/social science is a required class to graduate from high school.

``Unless you read history and identify with the perpetrators, you don`t understand history at all.`` - so true!

Outstanding interview. Thanks.

What an intelligent conversation! so enriching!

What a wonderful life we weave

Im surprised that of the ~1000 people who’ve watched this, only 10% think it good enough to use the Like button. Personally, i think it astonishingly good; and challenging and inspiring in equal measure. I don’t *enjoy* Peterson; he’s not easy listening. But he does tell me what I probably need to hear.

@Michael-ns1ey

2 жыл бұрын

I think many people watch who don't have a youtube account, so they can't like anything.

Un insegnante enorme , davvero e un grande educatore davvero pieno di saggezza vera. Grande insegnante.

Logical and brilliant

Grande educatore eccezionale su molti aspetti davvero brillante . Qualcosa di grande complimenti.

Grande e istruttivo un grande insegnane ed educatore davvero grande davvero . Grazie davvero un grande educatore e insegnante davvero . Grande insegnante.

Thank you Jordan Peterson for mentioning Soviet Union and Ukrainians starving to death. I’m from Ukraine and I really appreciate you educating me on the history of my own country, especially in the context of post modernism

"There is no substitute to Character."JP

Equity is fine as long as you're limiting it to 'equality in the eyes of the law,' which is a restriction usually not placed on topic.

JPs description of the study of history is profound to me as when I was young I thought there was something wrong with me when I imagined I was the aggressor. People make the observation that I often look to much at both sides of an argument to get a point across. I know that is a quality that keeps me grounded though perhaps less ideological its not a great place to be sometimes. Its difficult to convince people of something as they can't understand where I am coming from. Maybe I'm just a poor communicator or maybe these people are too narrow minded

@docsavage8640

2 жыл бұрын

Do you not get enough applause in person so you're seeking it here?

It is stunning how close Peterson's message is to Biblical truth.

@nuqwestr

2 жыл бұрын

"Truth" even if you've never read the Bible, that's also "stunning".

@MikkoVille

2 жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as a biblical truth.

@tommesing4281

Жыл бұрын

@@MikkoVille Oh please!!! You'll find out, man...!

@MikkoVille

Жыл бұрын

@@tommesing4281 Why, how and when? Or do you just tell that to me so that you yourself don't have to think about your beliefs critically?

6.18 There is no substitute for Character...

By studying history One learns why people did what they did all those years ago And so you find out why people do what they are doing now And thus one finds out why one behaves the way one does today..

6:22 Jordan] "There is no substitute for character..." Jordan was just saying that character could, could often, could usually be overridden and "compartmentalized." Character, ordinary character does not seem to suffice under such circumstances. The Soviet gulag system only produced one Solzhenitsyn, which may have been enough. That a degenerate system can destroy the humanity of an entire society must give us pause. 'Adults are angles.' 'Adults can be made into angles.' Both not true, but there seems to be an apatite in the human psyche that wants to believe them. Is this merely an intrinsic failure mode of the human imagination?

@BULLTRONHERO

2 жыл бұрын

It's no failure of Human Imagination. You simply haven't encountered a grown angel yet. : ]

It’s easy to understand history

I am strongly encouraging homeschooling for all future school-age students.

"Its brutally damaging to come to terms with your own proclivity for malevolance" only if you fear to be malevolent. And not everyone fears that. I don't like that he always repeats himself. I guess he has a lot of other interesting things to say.

Would be great to see Jullian Assange return to Australia.

Scorpions - Humanity (Official Music Video): kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymtpl7WRc7epfpM.html .

This is where our own government are going.

I love John...but a few times here I shouted..."Shut up, John"

I’m tires of the endless warnings at the beginning of Films and TV programmes that are a symptom of the weak millennial constitution of the younger generation …

What's the remedy for man's proclivity to evil? To be a partaker of God's divine nature through faith in Christ.

This guy, obviously, didn't get the memo! The storytelling thing!?

I have known mature people who Green party members and believers.who separately mention long time communist southern India which is poor, don't want to talk about the millions starved in CCP China, Soviet Ukraine, Cambodia killing fields .. after decades of school Leftist curriculum, we now have Left voters.

I read just over half of ordinary men. It was so disgusting and horrifying I had to stop reading. We have the capability of incredible cruelty with very little psychological nudging.

Too many people conflate "equity" with "equality". Why not let people have a kick at the can, if they have the work ethic and can develop the skill then they've earned the outcome. Me, I cringe at medical schools letting in diversity students who can't pass the MCAT. That sounds like something that will end in tears.

I'm sorry, the radical left had a sense of Marxist-Leninism's problems decades before Solzhenitzen published in the 70s. Just take Bakunin, Makhno, Emma Goldman, Beauvoir, Sartre, and Richard Wright for key examples. Not to mention, Orwell, the democratic socialist. Peterson is just projecting his ideology, resentment, and self-importance through Solzhenitzen as a pretext. In the meantime, the proletariat has been dispossessed continually and at greater scales than the Kulaks to this day. There's more to the radical left than Peterson's evident, Cain-like hatred of them here....

@JordanBPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

You are an apologist plain and simple.

@luigimarino374

Жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson doesn't "have" an ideology. Seems as if your projecting your resentment and grasp of AN ideology onto his character. No one should have an ideology; they should understand them and then synthesize continually over time. Having an ideology insinuates that its fixed over time. Nothing about the expanse of human consciousness is fixed.

@ExistentialWill

Жыл бұрын

@@luigimarino374 Ideology is in its origins the mere study of ideas (as in idea-ology). Please actually ground what you think ideology is in actual historical fact because the people who originally studied as ideologists found it absurd to make “ideology” derogatory such that Napoleon did it to stigmatize his political opposition. “Ideologues” were originally liberal Enlightenment types in France with the exact same ideology of Peterson. Even Lenin and Marx were anti-ideologists as professed materialists. To claim “no one should have an ideology” is absurd because it’s telling others that as an idea one shouldn’t have ideas, least of ideas in politics. Worse is you saying ideology should be understood and then synthesize, so we should have them? Peterson is utterly illiterate in what ideology is, and you are in turn, because you don’t even bother to read ideology: a very short introduction before talking about ideology. If you did, you’d understand how much the hatred of ideology is actually Peterson’s projected resentment and ideology, not mine….

@luigimarino374

Жыл бұрын

@@ExistentialWill Clearly you’re more philosophically read than I, and clearly you have enough contempt for my statement that you’ve chosen to override your initial intuition that we’re talking about completely different things. Although you mentioned that we should be defining things in the same way, you simultaneously proclaimed that your definition is not only correct, but is the definition that everyone else uses when talking about it. If your referring to “ideology” as a phenomena while simultaneously defending the original commenters use of the word as a possessive noun, you’ve trapped yourself in a logical error. I simply used the word in the way the original commenter used it.

Kulaks are the Jews, the Jews are the Kulaks. Who are the 1%?

The clinical psychologist who got addicted to benzos is lecturing on the Fragile Millennial lol

@TheRealDealDominic

2 жыл бұрын

Such is shallow comment. Who are the best speakers about addiction? The addict. Also why does it matter? Wisdom can come from any source, maybe you should make a video about your own views instead of trolling others

@andyxox4168

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he made a mistake in trusting the medical professionals … but how many fools followed the Covid narrative?

@drstuartjacobsen

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealDealDominic it matters because Peterson said you should have your house in order before trying to change the world which he didn't..it also matters because he is accusing other people of being fragile while he had to go resorting to benzos instead of taking care of his wife...he is a hypocrite

@drstuartjacobsen

2 жыл бұрын

@UCzpopiDV6kx6611iNndKCzQ I'm not lecturing I'm criticizing..and Peterson has the same title as me and the guy who gave him the drugs..so why didn't he know better?

@MikkoVille

2 жыл бұрын

And who can't handle a glass of apple cider. Lol.

Peterson is almost wrong and certainly not right in just about everything he says.

The last 30 years has been dominated by permissive parenting which produces children 'wise in their own eyes' because they were given freedom and choices too early. Everyone is born with a sin nature but once they are born again, they take on a righteous nature and then it's a matter of maintaining that nature through a walk with The Holy Spirit. It's clear in the rebuke by the Apostle Paul to the Galatian church who began in The Spirit but reverted to religion. He asked who had 'bewitched' them.

@daniellesomerfield8799

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob Syurunkul Thanks "But if you are led by The Spirit, you are not under The Written Law". Gal. 5:18 Aramaic

@daniellesomerfield8799

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob Syurunkul My pleasure

The guy fled twitter after being criticised for attacking the looks of a plus-sized model!

@houndoftindalos9580

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenbennett9123 It is the implied idea that the owners of Sports Illustrated are cultural Marxists which I find absurd. Oh, if you think that cover pic is bullying you have led a very sheltered life.

@andyxox4168

2 жыл бұрын

I’m with him, they’re +size horrors and the worst health role models imaginable …

@houndoftindalos9580

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyxox4168 My mate Shaun who likes big girls and is not at all post-modernist or cultural Marxist would disagree. I would also have to point out that Peterson is hardly a health role model. A prescription drug addict and a crank beef-only diet advocate.

@andyxox4168

2 жыл бұрын

@@houndoftindalos9580 nice, you invented an imaginary friend and gave an opinion on his behalf instead of your own … 😂😂😂

@houndoftindalos9580

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyxox4168 Think of him as a Jungian archetype, and I can assure you he is a real person.

Peterson should stick to what he knows - psychology. And stay away from politics and ideology. He is no philosopher and he makes fundamental attribution errors in philosophy.

@joecarom391

2 жыл бұрын

He is so clueless, hearing him talk about german history makes every German middleschooler understand he is a fraud. That dude is just plain ideology.

@freedomovertyranny1770

2 жыл бұрын

Are the rest of us plebs allowed to discuss philosophy or should we all just leave it to the experts?

@mabaker

2 жыл бұрын

​@@freedomovertyranny1770 Can you give us here the link to your philosophy/ideology talks? Otherwise post away in KZread/Odyssey/Gab comment sections.

@patrickbateman1712

2 жыл бұрын

You're a legend, in your own mind.

@douglasskinner

2 жыл бұрын

So you say. Then please enlighten us with some examples.

Peterson should stop blabbering to conservatives and actually do his homework and read the philosophers he goes on, and on, and on about. Incredibly unprofessional. There is a reason no actual philosopher takes him serious.

@FOURTEEFIVE

2 жыл бұрын

That's not an argument