How To Electroplate Silver Over Copper

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Paul demonstrates how he electroplated silver over copper tubes. Use distilled water, zero parts per million(0 ppm), then to add a very small amount of Silver Nitrate, keep agitating salt bath. I use 10 volts in the video, but i fine tuned it to 8 volts after the video was made. I am "not" a professional plater. These are starting parameters that i feel are best for this specific set-up that i use. Your required parameters may vary depending on size of copper piece, size of silver piece, size of salt bath, ect.. Hope this helps everyone with silver plating over copper,,,have fun! :-)
I just made a new video on this with great results, much better!!!!! :-)
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  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR39 жыл бұрын

    Much better results now!!! Check out this new video......... How To Electroplate Silver Onto Copper Pt.1 (Great results)

  • @chuffamocco5220
    @chuffamocco522011 жыл бұрын

    Make sure you steel wool and detergent wash it first to remove grease and oxides until all non copper specks are removed You can then use a copper etching compound like Ferric chloride (sold in electronics stores for etching circuit boards) to "peel off" the old surface of copper by a few microns using a sponge. Leave on for 5 mins. (Use latex gloves as FeCl is also a poison.) Use the plating technique I mentioned above. No I dont use those eBay stuff.

  • @aleisterlavey9716

    @aleisterlavey9716

    Жыл бұрын

    After cleaning it, I just put the copper on + for a few minutes in a coppersulfate solution, so the top layer of atoms gets removed and then rinse with distilled water.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :-) Good to hear from you.

  • @teslacult
    @teslacult12 жыл бұрын

    OK, thanks. Keep us informed on this process, It will be very useful for building transmitters.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    I understand completely. It was only "applied" current to the load(copper, silver & salt bath). So i am not sure of exact current through the whole circuit. You are correct. Thank you.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i agree. Thats why i said "applied current", maybe not the best way i should of worded it. Current through the bath, or current drawn, depends on many factors.

  • @willowmoonmenkar4265
    @willowmoonmenkar426511 жыл бұрын

    I am studying before I do this as I am just getting my studio set up.N-95 mask is what we wear in the hospital for tuberculous & other infectious patients, so they are the best to use & I wear them for everything. Thank you, Willow Moon

  • @sultanafareen9597
    @sultanafareen95972 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic speech and nice video.

  • @chuffamocco5220
    @chuffamocco522011 жыл бұрын

    I used to run a electrical switchgear manufacturing company, This is how we silver plate our copper busbar contact points to NEMA, UL, IEC standards.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, the Nernst equations, looking it up now. Thanks again, I learn something new every day :-)

  • @goldcloud442
    @goldcloud44210 жыл бұрын

    You've done a great job on the video and arranging things in the clear viewable angle. It makes this video more pleasant to watch. Actually, I have watched it three times and tried to understand how to plate silver without using cyanide. I have to agree 100% with the comments from your chemist friend. The reaction in this video is a simple redox reaction that did not really require an electric current. The only amount silver (or silver oxide) plated on the copper tube was purely from the silver nitrate while the silver anode was not a part of the reaction. This explains why the copper tubes shown here are barely covered by an uneven layer of silver, even after some physical rubbing. In order to place silver nicely with bright and even coverage, one must use a soluble silver complex solution that does not react with the base metal, such as copper, directly. Cyanide being the best choice is because the high stability of silver cyanide complex. There are many other compounds that forms stable silver complex although none of them come even close to cyanide. This will require a very accurate voltage control, additional of brighteners, and other wetting agencies to condition the plated surface. One thing works is to use (lots of) iodide salt to form a silver complex. The only problem is the cost of iodide salt. One thing I like to mention about the voltage and current is to clarify some misconception in this area. In a simple plating application, the main control you have is the voltage. You can limit the current by using a good rectifier, however, you cannot simply "crank up" the amperage. To increase the current flow, you'll have to increase the voltage, conductivity of the solution, surface area of both electrodes, or shorten the distance between the electrodes. Most non-cyanide silver plating will be done under 2.0V. So your best bet is to add some salt (similar to the ions already in the solution) to increase the conductivity or use multiple cathodes to increase the current flow. I'm looking forward to your next real silver plating video.

  • @goldcloud442

    @goldcloud442

    10 жыл бұрын

    I found a few commercial silver electroplating solutions online. The good ones come with MSDS sheets. The contents give a good idea on what compound was used.

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    10 жыл бұрын

    Thank you much for your very good information, it is much appreciated :-) And thanks for wording kindly to me, many are very rude & cruel. I give your comment thumbs up, thanks again, very informative & helpful for all :-)

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thank you. i saw many videos for copper & nickel plating, but nothing with silver plating,,,,so i made this video :-) Took me months of research and experiments to do this properly :-) Many profesional manufactures/platers also use cyanide of potasium, and i would rather not even mess with that stuff.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Good to know , thanks. I used the silver plated copper tubes to build crystal power cells :-)

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome,,,good to hear from you. I hope this helps many people, not much out there on "silver" plating :-)

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    it is 3 Amps current applied by PSU, but when placed in salt bath & add resistance of silver and copper parts,,,then only .01 Amp through the whole circuit(bath with parts). Current will also increase through the circuit as more silver particals break off into the bath.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Hey,,thanks a lot. I will try all of this :-)

  • @PatriotCoinRings
    @PatriotCoinRings7 жыл бұрын

    +INVENTOR3 I'm having a difficult time getting liver of sulfer patina to adhere nicely to a steel coin. No problem with copper, silver, nickle or other more conductive metals but this one has been a challenge. I'm just now experimenting with a conductive copper paint first brushed on and then oxidizing but that has a tenancy to be to thick and peals off easily. Okay so now I'm wondering if I can put steel in a electroplating bath and I actually have a very nice one where I can set the amperes and volts to any you think may be ideal but my goal would be to first electroplate as silver this way then it shouldn't be an issue to patina afterwards. My question to you is if you have any suggestions such as will electroplating be an issue on steel metal? Your help or any other here experienced with this is appreciated.

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry i cant be of much help here, my experience is limited in this area. I have not tried any other metal in this chemical composition except for copper. But i would think it would still work, hmmm, make sure your water is distilled/zero water & make sure metal, is cleaned very well, most people will use an acid bath. Im watching a video on the liver of sulfur patina now,,,, i dont think it would work on ferrous type of metals.

  • @corvette25hi

    @corvette25hi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Patriot Coin Rings Mine turned out white, don’t know if I should buff it or not?

  • @chrisconlon7970

    @chrisconlon7970

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't think you will get Liver to adhere to any metals

  • @TashasTouch
    @TashasTouch4 жыл бұрын

    Yaaaay finally a vid on silver ty ty ty

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome & no use of cyanide :-) Hope you saw the new improved video, link is pinned to top comment. There is also a link under video description there where you can buy the whole kit with instructions from ebay.

  • @andrewCNC905
    @andrewCNC90511 жыл бұрын

    k thanks that's a great deal !! and so very useful for alot of projects

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i understand, thank you.

  • @PatriotCoinRings
    @PatriotCoinRings7 жыл бұрын

    +INVENTOR3 Another question: I noticed you like many others just use a silver dollar. Not an issue because I work with a ton of these making coin rings. What I did wonder is that I save all my silver shavings which are nearly like dust particles and after many many coin rings I typically gather enough to melt down to a small inget. I was curious though if I were to sprinkle the .9999 pure silver dust in the bath and keep it agitated with an airbubbler so they are moving around if it would be "beneficial or bad" in an attempt to improve a good silver electroplating????

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, interesting. Not sure if powder flakes in the bath would be as good. Hmmm, i think best to have the silver attached directly to the anode,,,,,hmmm, but now thinking more about this more, hmmmm, if attched to the anode, the particles that come off of the silver solid would be molecular in size,,,,and your talking about mixing in small dust particles that are much larger in size, but still the water itself gets charged so i would think that the powder you add would break down, but maybe not as fast,,,,,,i think what you mention would work, but to keep a small container like i use so that the anode and cathode are not separated by too much of s distance. Wish i could hep more with this :-( I do have an improved video you might want to watch, where i get a much better result,,,,search "how to electroplate silver onto copper improved" inventor3.

  • @PatriotCoinRings

    @PatriotCoinRings

    7 жыл бұрын

    +INVENTOR3 I'm going to experiment with this today as well. What are your thoughts on agetating water when silver plating? Would an airstone in the bath during the process be helpful? and....one more rookie question, I have a similar power supply as yours. I noted you said you prefer 10 volts. What do you set the amps to initially?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, i missed this comment. I Hope things worked out well for you?

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, im still learning :-)

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :-)

  • @postiemania
    @postiemania10 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul, I use 3.0 volts when I am electrorefining silver. My mixture is also more concentrated than yours ( more Silver nitrate ). I get a bright silver coating straight up. I also don't allow the alligator clips in the solution for purity sake. I do like the clear dish you use and finally, what is the end purpose of the copper you are plating?

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much,,this i did not know,,but i always wondered how the meter did this measurment,,now i know,,,thanks again :-) good to know.

  • @chevydude658
    @chevydude6584 жыл бұрын

    Finally! I have a Dennis the Menace spoon I want to get replated for my oldest brother but I can't find a service to do it.

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think this will work very well for you. Please make sure to watch my videos of "how to electroplate silver over copper GREAT RESULTS". There is a link under the videos were you can buy the whole kit😎

  • @demnlordd666
    @demnlordd66612 жыл бұрын

    never done this but from what I have read. pre-sand and "pickle" your part. degreaser for oil, acid to remove oxide, distilled h2o for acid residue. silver nitrate works just fine. some where near 5V. but the amperage does the work, determines plating rate. also you don't want to have too large of a charge for your surface area. it can be tricky but doing fine. your part darkened slowly cause it looks like you ran 1ma. try a few amps.

  • @en2oh
    @en2oh9 жыл бұрын

    The problem with the gene pool is a lack of life guards. Ignore the criticisms from the "chemist" who said this is not electroplating. The fact that there is an electrochemical reaction does not take away from the fact that a positive sliver donor electrode with a negative plating electrode in a silver salt solution will electroplate. Now, as others have said, the voltage you're using is way too high. 1 or 2 vdc is perfect. The current density, in amps per square cm or inch determines the rate of deposition. For the "chemist", the term he is looking for is arginosus. Might be worth his while to look that term up. Silve ions are still used in various settings medically. The historic term for silver nitrate is lunar caustic. Silver tattooing is a common adverse effect of excessive silver exposure. I'm a chemist and a medical doctor. You did a good job. Take the "expert" feed back you get on here with a couple grains of salt. Btw, a grain is a unit of measure! Silver nitrate is a silver salt. As the saying goes, bang the rocks together people! :)

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :-) I will be having another go at this soon & making a new video, hopefully with better results.

  • @ebenv1
    @ebenv111 жыл бұрын

    Paul, I need to point out that current is not measured in parallel to a circuit in the same way voltage is measured. 1st you have to put a load on the circuit so that some current is actually drawn then you put the ammeter in series with your circuit and your load. Now be careful, most digital ammeters can only handle 10A. Ohms law says, A = V / R.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Yes, because results are from after only 15 minutes,,for a good part this size it takes about a half an hour. When you say results are poor, are you talking about the piece i plated in the video or all the copper tube i show at the end? Hard to get perfectly even coat without having some sort a constant aggitator in there. At the end of the video the salt bath is darker, and this is when it starts to work the best. Did you mention to add oil to the copper piece first, before plating!?

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, no hard feelings :-)

  • @ebenv1
    @ebenv111 жыл бұрын

    This is why most digital ammeters can only measure up to 10Adc The 1ohm internal resistor can only handle 10A which is a pretty big (physically) resistor. Here comes the REAL TIP, if you don't want risk your digital ammeter. Put an extra 1ohm resistor in series with the load on your circuit and simply measure the voltage over that resistor (meter in parallel and on Vdc). This allows you to measure currents without the need to break the circuit every time you need to measure amps.

  • @jeffersonfaudan
    @jeffersonfaudan10 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the response... i was thinking it were easy because i see some david yurman and many others mix gold/silver and are able to plate them and make them look a shiny gold and a shiny silver... the reason i wanted to have it rhodium plated is because i don't like the oxidized look on the silver after a day since i'm acidic. the brushing of soap and baking powder makes it look shiny, but not new... i do understand some people like to keep the naturalold look to show it being an antique...

  • @foureyedchick
    @foureyedchick11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for info.

  • @teslacult
    @teslacult12 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thanks INVENTOR3.

  • @postiemania
    @postiemania11 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Electron flow is from negative to positive (Google it) and Ion flow or Current flow is from positive to negative. Good vid showing a safer method of silver plating. Thumbs up.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    I was making crystal power cells. im sure there must be other applications. im still learning the best process for this plating.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Colloidal silver, good stuff :-)

  • @t00nces2
    @t00nces211 жыл бұрын

    I have used copper sulphate to pull the copper off a zinc penny and transfer it to another item. I was wondering if you could use plated silver as the silver supply and transfer the plated silver over to a silver item recovering the silver plate to the silver item.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Got any suggestions?? Less voltage and more nitrate???

  • @chrismr3972
    @chrismr39727 жыл бұрын

    Three AMPs !! If that were the case there would be 30W of heat which would make that water really hot. When you look on the current display it's only 0.01A (about 0.05A when you move the silver inside the tube).

  • @tomryder342
    @tomryder34211 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you put the rubber glove on your left hand to protect your skin and then proceed to use your right hand for the demo...funny ha

  • @teslacult
    @teslacult12 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried using pulsed currents or low voltages such as 5 V or less?

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    It was cheap compared to most others, i think it was under $100, new from e-bay. Yihua regulated dc power supply i think model number is 305D It has 30V 5A, both variable, with DRO(digital read out)

  • @chuffamocco5220
    @chuffamocco522011 жыл бұрын

    Ground workpiece and dip in solution, To finish this in seconds, attach a small silver anode to a metal handle (I prefer a stainless strip with a fiber/wooden handle) I usually tie the silver with cloth strip wrapping to the stainless strip so the solution can seep through and react with the silver faster. Make sure the the stainless steel is connected to your power supply positive. Then rub that portion into your workpiece in equal circular strokes to deposit silver evenly on the surface.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    You are correct, my mistake. This is what happens when you are self taught :-) I set my PSU to 3A, So im guessing that would be with zero resistance, i understand that 3A is not what the current is through the bath. Thanks for the correction

  • @Radioismybomb
    @Radioismybomb11 жыл бұрын

    Hi chuffa mocco, i want to silver plate the inside of my copper cooking pots,the pots have no tin lining inside,what is the best way to silver plate them and get the thickest micron amount on them? Is brush plating with a silver solution sold on ebay good for this? Thanks

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I have not tried this. I would think you need to replace the silver nitrate with something else, but i do not know what to replace with.

  • @d716agq
    @d716agq10 жыл бұрын

    You absolutely can push a current through a circuit, it is done all the time in radio transmitters, LED, laser drivers and many other types of circuits (I have designed these kinds of circuits for over 10 years and have a PhD in semiconductor circuit design though I don't have 40 years experience as I'm only 36). If you apply a 1uA current through a 1K resistor you get 1mV, in a circuit you can control any 2 out of the 3 variables in for formula V/I=R.This silver plating circuit is no different.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    I "applied" like 3A, with the PSU "set" at aprox 3A, but, yes, much less current actualy flowing through the salt bath & parts. Salt bath & parts acting as resistor/load, so yes only like 10mA actualy flowing through everything, but 3A is "applied" to the circuit. It is 3A "before" connecting anything to the PSU. Please let me know if you think im wording things incorrectly.

  • @mazatraza
    @mazatraza11 жыл бұрын

    Have a question for you have you plated steal with stainless steal be for ?? If so got any tips ? I can't manage to have a good pass rate items come out great and 10 minutes later turn black !!

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    you are correct. I worded incorrectly.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    CS,,good stuff, i make also. I will keep everything not touching container next time,,,thanks.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    thanks, i got PSU from e-bay, for like $75(new) great price. I believe this method would work with stainless steel, but im not positive.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    I understand. Sounds like this was a special process they did for these rings, and not easily replicated without the proper equipment & knowledge. I would not risk damaging the rings original look, but to maybe restore its look just to use jewelry cleaner or Tarn-X type of cleaner. You could try professional plating house, but maybe hard to replicate that exact compound/mixture,,,,,wish i could help you more.

  • @jamesearl2062
    @jamesearl20625 жыл бұрын

    Ya, N95 is the Niosh particulate filter certification. Although, N100, R100 or P100 would of course be better.

  • @jeffersonfaudan
    @jeffersonfaudan10 жыл бұрын

    i was wondering... i have this really old ring... it looks good but it's a silver and gold combo... the gold are the highlights withi this gem at the center... it has an etruscan look... i do want to keep its same color but have them electroplated with rhodium and the gold to like new.... how do you actually do that... i try to check out YT for the process but i don't seem to see any.. i wanted to get it electroplated here, but most i know locally just say gold or rhodium? so that's one color..

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, many times i still get confused between electron flow & conventional flow & i have to think about it for a second,,,geeeez, at one point we thought it was the protons that flowed !

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for confirmation of good mask, N-95 type :-)

  • @diedonner299
    @diedonner2994 жыл бұрын

    Something about this video... I came here trying to learn something and I leave feeling dumber than when I arrived

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out the top comment that i have pinned. Please check out the description on new improved video.

  • @juliobaezramirez346
    @juliobaezramirez34610 жыл бұрын

    The current flowing through a load does not depend on the voltage source but on the load. The high current rated for any voltage source only indicates the capacity of the source to feeding larger loads. If your sistem draws 10 mA as indicator shows, it will be the same whether you use a battey charger or a D size baterry. Cheers.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Oil in the water, REALLY!,,,hmmm, interesting,,,OK, i will try this! Thanks!!! I just figured it was dark colored coating because it was not polished afterwards.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, interesting,,maybe. I can try this next time. dont hurt to try

  • @TheSmileyFacedPizza
    @TheSmileyFacedPizza10 жыл бұрын

    You would still apply a voltage in those cases. The only difference is that the voltage applied is based off of resistance and other forward voltage drops to give a desired current. You can't simply push a current through something and have the voltage and/or resistance change to meet that current. You have to create a voltage difference which will then create a flow of current. His 40 years of experience has served him well.

  • @aminormaximum2446

    @aminormaximum2446

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you are replying to my remark about using amps, them you missed the point. Of course they're will be voltage. The point is to set the current at a level so that it remains steady, while the voltage fluctuates, as opposed to setting the voltage and having that remain steady, while the amperage fluctuates. Of course one it the other will fluctuate based on the conductivity showing however many watts to be produced... And do in and so forth.... The point is, the current is what sets the standard. At least that is what I have been told. Who knows, maybe it is all just a glitch in the matrix, b and I am not even here

  • @foureyedchick
    @foureyedchick11 жыл бұрын

    Dear Inventor3: Do you need to use Silver Nitrate? Can you use table salt (NaCl)? Also, can you use a regular 12 volt car battery or battery charger? (I want to silverplate some copper jewelry using silver spoons) Thanks

  • @malinanderson9778

    @malinanderson9778

    3 ай бұрын

    Did you get an answer anywhere?

  • @anotherOneMore7
    @anotherOneMore74 жыл бұрын

    Could a 12 v adapter work instead of variac? And does AC vs DC matter, if so which to use?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am no expert, but i think, sure, i see no reason it would not work, they are low current. I think it is best to have even lower voltage over a longer period of time, but i think it will be okay. Keep a good distance between your anode and cathode to get less current. Dont try to use house wall outlet! You want to use only DC Pos(anode with silver) and Neg(cathode). You want low voltage and current. You could probably even use 1 or 2 batteries in series with each other and again keep the anode and cathode at most distance possible in your container and make sure batteries are not getting warm. Hope this helped some.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, did not try pulsed,,but i first had it at 3V,,,and the water never seemed to start turning color. I also did the 3V set-up using 2 batteries in series,,,but batteries start getting weaker after a while. The solid silver did not seem to give up much molecules at this voltage setting,,but things still worked, but it would take 2 times longer to plate at 3V. Water/salt bath will stay clear for many hours at this voltage setting.

  • @azmiavcioglu8649
    @azmiavcioglu864911 жыл бұрын

    Your power supply shows 10 Volts but 10mA to 20 mA. You are talking about 3A. How this happens? Varying the voltage or moving the anode to cathode closer raises the current. Is your current meter (Ampere meter ) wrong or left in another scale?

  • @AbramsEgypt
    @AbramsEgypt11 жыл бұрын

    I heard the man say that he apply 3 amps and I see 0.01 on the screen so !? which one is right is it 3 amps or 0.01 ? or what is the current density A/Dm2 if I plate something in different dimentions,... I hope you can help

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR312 жыл бұрын

    Hmm,, i did polish part before hand,,,but maybe to polish to a smother finish. I really think i need to subject it to an acid bath first

  • @chuffamocco5220
    @chuffamocco522011 жыл бұрын

    I forgot, set your voltmeter to 6 Volts and just dip the anode into the solution. Ground electrode to your part to be plated.

  • @ronaldsykes966
    @ronaldsykes96610 жыл бұрын

    hmm. where did the reagent come from in the first place ?, and how did they get it out of there ? hmmm

  • @juliobaezramirez346
    @juliobaezramirez34610 жыл бұрын

    Of course I forgot to mention that in both cases you have to use the same voltage.

  • @2470147
    @247014712 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul. Do you every time you lift me up with your video! Very interesting way of drawing the copper!

  • @abeal49
    @abeal4911 жыл бұрын

    I watched 5 minutes, all I want to know is which end (negative or positive?) you attached to the pieces. is the red the negative and the black the positive? or vice versa?

  • @chrisconlon7970
    @chrisconlon79704 жыл бұрын

    Watching paint dry comes to mind ...... Then sanding it all off.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Thanks,,this sounds like what i was reading for professional manufacture,,im guessing you work with plating company :-) Have to be very carefull working with cyanide!! What ratio of potassiium to cyanide in the bath? Maybe i should use about the same amount of cyanide as i did with the nitrate in the video,,,then to experiment with the amount of potassium for thickness of plating? Are you sure this process will be good for silver over copper? Thanks much :-)

  • @pballinstar
    @pballinstar12 жыл бұрын

    I work at a metal finishing shop and what I do is I plate electro less silver, Tin, and nickel. I don't know what all this talk about "oil the part before plating" is but don't do that. Keep Grease off the part or else when you there will be a layer of oil in between the copper and the silver. Which would ruin Your part. Keep the part as clean as possible before you plate it. We run parts though sulfuric acid and cold water a couple times. Then plate it

  • @MegaAwesomedude234
    @MegaAwesomedude23411 жыл бұрын

    Colloidal Silver? You're going as Papa Smurf for halloween too? :D

  • @BaddaBigBoom
    @BaddaBigBoom5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, very informative. Question: does the anode absolutely have to be made of silver?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yes, has to be silver, this is where the silver for the plating is coming from. The silver breaks down to small particles in the salt bath solution,,,the particles become charged and are attracted to the cathode(copper). Thanks for watching, glad to help :-)

  • @AutodidactEngineer
    @AutodidactEngineer3 жыл бұрын

    Is it better if I keep it longer?? Does the coating last longer?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. The longer you keep it in the solution the thicker layer of plating there will be. 😎

  • @alex50123
    @alex501238 жыл бұрын

    You did with lower voltage to 1 or 2 vd ? because a guess 10 volts very hight. because you use this voltage?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Alex Pires The lower voltage is better, about 1-2V

  • @patricksingh6723
    @patricksingh67238 жыл бұрын

    Ur welcome bro

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is costly, but you would only need half of that to make many salt baths or applications.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thanks, this is what the professionals use, but i did not want to deal with the dangers of cyanide. They are very high in toxicity, much more dangerous than silver nitrate. I would have to study up on it a lot more first, may need full body coverage for protection.

  • @rjac001
    @rjac00111 жыл бұрын

    I like your power supply!! is this the same method to electroplate silver onto stainless steel??

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR310 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, yes, wish i could help more, you probably need to replace the silver nitrate with something else, but not sure what. Salt of rhodium?

  • @mariav957
    @mariav95710 жыл бұрын

    have you ever electroplated with gold and if so ... is it the same process, do you still use silver nitrate?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    10 жыл бұрын

    I have never done this with gold, but im very sure you need to replace the silver nitrate.

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS5 жыл бұрын

    does it look better after polishing? also if i took a copper plated coin and plated zinc on it will it look like brass or gold?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it will look better after polishing, just be careful not to polish through the layer of silver, the longer you let the part set in the solution, the thicker the layer will be. About the copper plated coin,,,im not positive, but i strongly believe that if you zinc plated it, it would be silver, or light greyish in color.

  • @ARCSTREAMS

    @ARCSTREAMS

    5 жыл бұрын

    ok because i saw a vid of a penny being zinc plated then heated on a hot top till it started turning gold,,i guess because a layer of copper and zinc will give your brass since that is what its made of

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ARCSTREAMS Yes, you are correct.

  • @stephanroess5568
    @stephanroess55686 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul. I like your positive 'can do' attitude. I am trying to electroplate copper plates with silver for using them in the process of making Daguerreotypes. I guess that a 20 - 30 microns layer of silver would do to polish the silver after the plating. I watched the new method you published but could not find the necessary ingredients on the New Zealand market. Did you ever try to polish your electroplated tubes?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the compliment :-) I have polished them lightly, and the silver did not rub off. I was surprised at the thickness, hard to tell how thick, but if you leave it in for a longer duration it will keep building up. Thanks for watching!

  • @stephanroess5568

    @stephanroess5568

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. The chemicals are quite hard to get in NZ because of all the P heads mixing drugs in their backyards. I can get Potassium Hydroxide, Surfactant, Potassium Nitrate and possibly the brightener (once I found out what it is). But could not find Silver Nitrate and the #1 Pyrrolidine compound. Would you have any idea where I could get this from?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was lucky enough to find them all on ebay. I have the link in the video description under "great results" video here.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/hn-rm7KnaZSxhZc.html

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here is the ebay link.... www.ebay.com/itm/15-Grams-Succinimide-98-034-1-034-Chemical-Ingredient-for-Silver-Plating-Solution-/201216482082

  • @stephanroess5568

    @stephanroess5568

    6 жыл бұрын

    Super. That is the same link that I found but I was not sure if it is the right stuff. I also found the Silver Nitrate ( www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Nitrate-25-grams-99-95-pure-freshly-made/311998169059?epid=24008887658&hash=item48a48a3fe3:g:BxoAAOSwZB9aAh6z ). Looking at its price I was wondering if it is possible to reuse the electroplating solution. Did you try that or did you mix new every time? I guess one thing is to keep it away from any light source, right? And also... You mentioned brightener in your list. What exactly is this brightener? So many questions. Thank you so much for helping out. I am keen to get this done since this seems to be the only way to do a proper job without using cyanide.

  • @Alftar
    @Alftar2 жыл бұрын

    Lol you sound exactly like screetips 😂

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    2 жыл бұрын

    hahaha, ... we do sound alike

  • @d716agq
    @d716agq10 жыл бұрын

    so the rate of water flow in river is determined by the rain fall in its catchment area and it entirely independent of the obstacles you put in it's way, the water will always get through one way or another. Stepper motors apply fixed speed and accelerations to what ever it is they are moving regardless of the object's mass (there are limits to the stepper motor maximum force), and you get constant current PSUs, for example battery chargers or led drivers for example ebay item # 231085962741

  • @SaraDungo
    @SaraDungo5 жыл бұрын

    if silver nitrate is poisonous is it okay to wear the jewelry?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is okay. Silver is okay to have against your skin. It is actually good to have a small amount of silver in your blood system, just like your body needs iron. Some people like myself have even drank colloidal silver, which is just silver and water. Silver Nitrate AgNO3 contains a nitrate which is a salt of nitric acid, this is the part that is dangerous.

  • @faizazlan30
    @faizazlan307 жыл бұрын

    how about replace dc motor with pulse generator? the electrocoating can be done or nope?

  • @INVENTOR3

    @INVENTOR3

    7 жыл бұрын

    you mean to ask if you can replace the regulated DC power supply unit with a frequency/pulse generator,,,,,,hmmm, interesting,,,,yes, i strongly believe it would work,,,, Yes.

  • @faizazlan30

    @faizazlan30

    7 жыл бұрын

    thank you for your respond sir.. another question, how to know the ideal current density (A) for plating? the lower the current density, the plating will be better?

  • @oz93666
    @oz9366611 жыл бұрын

    I've been an electrical engineer 40 years and have never heard the term 'applied current' . it has no meaning, you cannot apply a current, you can only apply a voltage , then the current follows, determined only by the resistance of the circuit (in dc circuits ) (as long as the current is within the limits of the power source, 3A in this case)

  • @wageehyehia2594
    @wageehyehia259411 жыл бұрын

    You should try an (aqueous) electrolyte made of (silver nitrate ,sodium cyanide and silver cyanide) to get a better electroplating

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i should wear both gloves, heheheh. Yes, the composition of pennies was changed quite a few times.

  • @asteingrube9914
    @asteingrube991410 жыл бұрын

    You can absolutely apply a current. Creating a current driver (albeit simple) is the first thing they teach you in any transistor class. Look up "current source" in Wikipedia and take a look at the schematics. ...Or pick up any of your engineering textbooks from 40 years ago...

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, i see, thank you.

  • @INVENTOR3
    @INVENTOR311 жыл бұрын

    6V,,,OK. Silver anode just dip a few times. & ground electrode, you mean, copper part to cathode, or copper to earth ground?

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