The surfactant I sent you for silver plating was K-12 (sodium lauryl sulfate). It is a common ingredient in detergent and hair shampoo. You can use neutral dish soap (regular, not ultra-concentrated) as an easier alternative. I also found that this solution tends to react with certain plastic containers. So it is much safer to use glass containers like you did. Here is some guideline on the solution I have used. This formula is based on making 500mL (half liter) of silver plating solution. You can use NaOH in place of KOH. NaOH comes in more pure form and is much easier to find. For a different volume, adjust all amount accordingly. Chemical list: · AgNO3 (Silver Nitrate) - 5.0 g · KOH (Potassium Hydroxide) - 6.0 g · Succinimide - 11.5 g · KNO3 (Potassium Nitrate) - 3.5 g · Brightener (diluted for you) - 1.2 g (use the eye dropper, the marker in the middle of the stem is 0.2g) · Surfactant (the bubbling agent used in toothpaste) · Boric acid - 12 g · Distilled or de-ionized water - 500 g Step 1: Make of fresh silver hydroxide (dark brown precipitate) Dissolve 5.0 g of silver nitrate in ~200mL (8oz) of water in container A. Dissolve 5.0 g of potassium hydroxide (KOH) in another small container B with ~150ml of water. Pour entire 150mL KOH solution into container A and stir lightly for a few seconds to make sure all the brown precipitation is in fine particles (no lumps). You can rinse container B with a small amount of water and pour into container A. Now all the silver has been converted to insoluble silver hydroxide. Do not let it sit for more than a day before proceeding to the next step. Step 2: Make of soluble silver complex compound Slowly add ~8.0 g of succinimde to container A while stirring the solution. The dark precipitation will slowly dissolve and result in a clear solution. You have just made the magic ingredient! Step 3: Make of final plating solution Measure the following chemicals and add them one at a time into container A with a stirring motion: 50mL of water; 3.5 g of succinimide; 0.5 g of KNO3; 10 g of boric acid. Now you should have a solution at about 400 mL. Using a separate container to prepare a KOH solution by disolving 1.0 g of KOH in about 50mL of water. Add 10mL of this solution, to container A, at a time while stirring and measuring the pH of the main solution. Make sure that the final pH reaches 8.5 to 9.5. To use the pH testing strip, you can cut it into smaller pieces for multiple testing. Do not reuse the testing strip. Use tweezers to grab a small piece of the test paper and dip it into the solution for 1 seconds. Check the color within a few seconds. A blue to dark blue color is your target. Place a small amount of the surfactant into a small, capped container, add 50 mL of water and shake vigorously. After the bubble settles a little, pour this solution into the main container A. Finally, add 1.2g of brightener into the main solution and mix well. Check the final volume to be around 500 mL. · Plating parameters: Voltage: 1.0 - 1.8 V (you can experiment to see what voltage gives a better result) Use pure silver as the anode (to the positive lead on the power supply). Please take extra care so that only the silver is in the plating solution. To get a better result, try to use similar size of conducting surface on both cathode and anode. This is just my finding in most cases. If the anode is much smaller than the object being plated, to achieve a better result, lower voltage must be used which results in longer plating time. Of course, the most important thing is to polish and clean the surface of the object to be plated. I found that a degreaser works well to remove polishing compounds. After degreasing, dip the base in 10% hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid for half a minute to remove any oxidation film. Rinse with flowing water (tap water okay). Plate before the surface becomes dry. Keep stirring during the plating process. The shiny silver coating should develop with a minute. If the surface becomes dull or yellowish again after a few minutes, you can gently rub the surface with an extra fine polishing paste (like a car paint swirl mark remover).

@ARCSTREAMS

5 жыл бұрын

funny i was just thinking of additives to put in my copper solution such as toothpaste and borax ,now i see boric acid as one of the ingredients,,i cant believe it,because i have no scientific background i was juts thinking maybe using these things with the solution like i do when brazing will work lol

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

@@ARCSTREAMS Too funny, lol,,,yes, toothpaste works also

@mzpraveen

4 жыл бұрын

Whats the chemical name of the brightner used here?

@karlbigmore7949

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you help

@TheMHGuild

3 ай бұрын

@@mzpraveen I also want to know this lol

Would it be possible to use a similar method to silver-plate a piece of aluminum?

I wanna try this but I have some issues getting the pyrrolidine. Are there any other substances that can substitute it? and the surfactant, could you provide me with the specific name please? Thanks a lot.

Can we use any alternative for potassium nitrate ?

Great video!

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

+kruiff Thank You! :-)

I am also going to look over more of your videos for ideas. Thanks for posting. Didn't realize this was 4 years ago! So sorry...

@INVENTOR3

2 жыл бұрын

Please do!

hi i am a sculptor student and i want to ask about brightener and surfactant. may i have more detail. for example is brightener, silver brightener or something else? because when i search for brightener lip brighteners for woman comes out .) same problem for surfactant. there is some things about textile paints in serch logs but nothing else. thank you

@soundscience7756

7 жыл бұрын

A common brightener is triethylene tetramine, and a common surfactant is sodium lauryl sulfate. Only a tiny amount of each is needed on this scale.

I just bought one of these kits. I hope I'm not disappointed.

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, there is a kit!? I see kits for plating brass instruments and things, but not for plating copper. Do you have a link? Well, i do sincerely hope it works okay for you.

@ElGatoLoco698

5 жыл бұрын

www.ebay.com/itm/192487981640

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

@@ElGatoLoco698 Oh! That kit is sold by same person that gave me these instructions. He was only selling certain ingredients, but not selling whole kit,,,nice. The instructions he shows on ebay is exact copy of what he sent me almost 5 years ago,,,,,i have these exact instructions saved, hehehehe :-) Yes, great kit, you should have great results, you will not be disappointed!!! :-) If he relists that kit it may change that link you gave me so if people want to find the kit on ebay,,,maybe search ,,,, "Succinimide Silver Plating Solution Complete Chemical Kit, to Make 500 mL" Thank you for your postings here.

@ElGatoLoco698

5 жыл бұрын

Well I got my ingredients and mixed them up. I am highly satisfied. It worked better than I was expecting. I've silver plated probably 25 rings and the plate is relatively durable and very bright. My solution is about a month old now and I"m getting a precipitate in the solution. I'm assuming it's silver that has precipitated out. You wouldn't know how to get it dissolved back in solution would you? Also, do you have any idea what is in the brightener solution?

You perhaps want to seal the copper first with palladium, before going over it with silver.

+INVENTOR3 In the video you show silver nitrate and in your description above Potassium Nitrate. Is this the same thing or am I misunderstanding?

@barryo-sw2kk

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Baker, no silver nitrate and potassium nitrate are not the same silver nitrate is easy to find, however potassium nitrate is really hard to find.

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are the same thing.

@TerryVrla

11 ай бұрын

potassium nitrate stump killer, silver nitrate used for skin wounds and photography @@barryo-sw2kk

Can you please provide me with the name of the equipment used and the brand?

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

+Damaso F Search "regulated DC voltage power supply" on ebay, you will see it there, it is from Hong kong.

Good job I hate doing plating video will this work with gold no cyanide

@INVENTOR3

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. You may have to change 1-2 ingredients. Best to try to contact Jerry, links in this video description

Could you provide a link to the pyrrolidine that you use? I found it on ebay but am unsure if it's the #1 version or not...

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

Sure..... www.ebay.com/itm/15-Grams-Succinimide-98-034-1-034-Chemical-Ingredient-for-Silver-Plating-Solution-/201216482082 The link is also under the video description, if you dont see it click on "Show more" under the video.

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

Sure.... www.ebay.com/itm/15-Grams-Succinimide-98-034-1-034-Chemical-Ingredient-for-Silver-Plating-Solution-/201216482082 The link is also below the video description, if you dont see it, click on "show more" under the video. If that link does not work search ebay for... "15 Grams Succinimide 99% Pyrrolidine-2,5-dione, Making Silver Plating Solution" Hope this helps

@abdulmohiz3123

3 жыл бұрын

Its not pyrrolidine its succinamide

Does the thickness of substrate (copper) effects the deposition of Silver (shiny or matt surface)?

@INVENTOR3

4 жыл бұрын

I am no expert, but i would think that it does "not" matter in this situation, i don't think the current through would change much at all to make a difference. Just that the more surface area may require more time.

@66shivi

4 жыл бұрын

@@INVENTOR3 Thank you for quick respond.

Dear Friend, I have one doubte, Why have you repeated the addition of Chemical in Step 3

@INVENTOR3

Жыл бұрын

It has been a long time since I did this, I can't remember why it is used twice. I do know many have followed these instructions with good results and no problems. All ingredients can be purchased in a kit. Best regards,

so the ppl who told you about this formula hold the patent on it? i dont get how you can hold a patent on chemicals and the ratio amounts,,is it the amounts that is also the secret and anyone using this might get in trouble? usually patents are not divulged like this

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

No, no patent,,,,,hmmmm, did i mention a patent?. I'm pretty sure you can have a patent on a "process" though.

What chemical is in the brightener liquid?

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

Ohh, i cant remember now, it has been a while. I do remember that it is same ingredient that is in dish soap. I have been told that i can use dish soap as brightener, but i have not tried it.

where did you got the surfactant? also you mention potasium nitrate, where and when you add it?

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

I got surfactant from guy on ebay, name is in the description under this video. Surfactant used here is called K-12 (sodium lauryl sulfate). It is a common ingredient in detergent. You can use dish soap as an alternative. The potassium nitrate is mentioned at 9:00 minutes and measured at 9:44 and finally added at about 10:25

@miltonSF

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@natasateodorescu

7 жыл бұрын

Hey, that plating still lasting? What alse did you plate?

@INVENTOR3

7 жыл бұрын

Only plated the copper tubes so far. I expect my solution is probably still good to use again :-) The plating worked very well and is still lasting perfectly. Good solid even layer of silver :-)

Can you electroform using this process?

@INVENTOR3

9 жыл бұрын

Amy Jennings Sure, i strongly believe so :-)

Sweet

i still get 2 inventor 3 voices at the same time and when I press stop one voice stops but the other continues and the picture freezes the audio and video are not synchronized and each one lags from the other

@INVENTOR3

9 жыл бұрын

I think it is your computer. We will have to see if anyone give your comment a thumbs up. Works ok for me.

@consciousenergies

9 жыл бұрын

Seems to work fine did me as well. Great video Paul INVENTOR3

@stevenchiverton48

9 жыл бұрын

all your other videos sound ok why is the last ones, sounding different, I think its not my pc

@INVENTOR3

9 жыл бұрын

Steven Chiverton Hmmm, very strange

This is awesome! Would you mind if I made a video using this exact process attempting it on copper jewelry? I would link/ credit you of course!

@INVENTOR3

4 жыл бұрын

Great, yes, no problem. Thank you! Please let me know if & when you do this, i would like to see the video :-)

@soburnedout

4 жыл бұрын

So did you???? If yes, you oughta link the vid here by editing the original comment..?

@aminormaximum2446

2 жыл бұрын

@@soburnedout just put your finger on her profile pic and hold it down, then go to her profile and look at her channel. I think that she had six videos with about 20 views total.. maybe .... Nothing about this, though...

Is this what you use to make crystal power cells?

@INVENTOR3

9 жыл бұрын

Yessssss, exactly :-)

@danyala.1659

9 жыл бұрын

INVENTOR3 Seems cool! How much do you think it would really cost to make 10 Crystal Power Cells using this method. And can I have a part list of everything, like borax, potassium chloride, magnesium, and everything? :) Like I've said, I have worked on many many free electricity generating devices, including Crystal Power Cells. I'm thinking about giving it another chance.

@INVENTOR3

9 жыл бұрын

Danyal Ahmad Hope you got my e-mail ok :-)

Keeps touching the potassium hydroxide. If you start smelling fish don't worry. Its just your fingers being hydrolyzed.

Thank you!!!

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

Your very welcome, hope this helps. Goldcloudinc, the guy on ebay in the description now sells the whole kit, everything you need :-)

Christ! Buy a Magnetic stirrer with hot plate. Get them on ebay for $50 Bucks

@INVENTOR3

3 жыл бұрын

Those are nice, good idea, thank yiou.

carbon buildup? from what?

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

+surplusdriller1 The carbon, yes, from my original video of how to plate..... kzread.info/dash/bejne/am1rsK2ipJO0YZs.html

@surplusdriller1

8 жыл бұрын

ahh ok. grate vids and nice results

Your clumsiness is making me very uncomfortable. You're mixing chemicals and you go "oops"?! Switch to making omlet videos, much safer.

@jayc2469

8 жыл бұрын

The geezer probably cooks like shit too - but he got 'er done good :) Check out pt2 to see the hefty silver plating when the right mixtures and prerequisites are right!

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

heheheheh, thank you :-)

@jayc2469

8 жыл бұрын

Very welcome! The second attempt seemed to work *much* better! I've been making inquiries about non-cyanide based plating solutions since this :)

GOD your scary. I think you should leave chemistry to those that have some idea.

@enzyme20056

8 жыл бұрын

I know, you can handle Koh with such carelessness. I don't know why he showed the rubber gloves at the start they were never used.

@nomoreheroes93

8 жыл бұрын

+Leonard Legg Unless you're prepared to go to the effort of making a better instructional video yourself I fail to see how your comment is constructive. At least try to explain your issue with his process so your criticism has some worth or don't bother commenting at all

@1Rowdy1derful

8 жыл бұрын

+nomoreheroes93 Ooh I didn't realize that you were the local gestapo. It is you that can decide if I can speak or on which subject. Why don't you KMA. Have you even watched the video? He from the beginning follows NONE of proper lab procedures, constantly contaminating parts of the process, playing in the chemicals with his bare hands, flipping bits of toxic chemicals about the lab because he didn't or couldn't keep them under control, failing to even read and follow instructions on the process provided for him. How else could he possibly fail, oh yeah he hasn't killed anyone, YET. Shove your dictatorial attitude up you know where.

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

+nomoreheroes93 Thank you! :-)

@INVENTOR3

8 жыл бұрын

+Leonard Legg Im not a professional plater, or a chemist and i dont claim to be one. However, I did get great results and i see there is practically no videos of how to silver plate copper, so i thought i would help other do this at home. I dont mind constructive criticism, because it may help me to learn something, but just making negative comments tells me your releasing some anger for some reason and decided to direct it at me, and is not helpful at all. Normally i would not even waste my time replying to a comment like this, but i hope you learn something here.

Very clumsy lab practices....you provided a very poor instructional video here

@INVENTOR3

5 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, well, be more cautious than i was, i am not a professional electroplater. I am still learning myself. The point is that i show people how to do this at home and get great results without using cyanide.

@aminormaximum2446

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus man, loosenln up a little. You have never tried something only to find it that you died something incorrectly? It isn't hard to nicely tell someone something that they did that was incorrect. Why don't you try being someone that helps people instead of someone that just criticizes... Anyone can do that, just like I started out doing to you. However, I told you house your could fix your issues as well, didn't I? More it is all up to you... Please, show a little respect for someone trying to help others.