Recent studies show that 100% of car on car collisions occur because of 2 drivers arrived at the same place at the same time

@Oligodendrocyte139

5 ай бұрын

Ooh, driverless cars though...😊

@billyporter1389

5 ай бұрын

In a collision a stationary or parked car wouldn't have arrived at the same time as the one who was moving.

@JBEAN

5 ай бұрын

​@billyporter1389 you missed it didn't you

@maryfreeman3341

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps a stationery object like a wall or hedge when someone drives too fast round a corner? Also then it is hit by another car?

@laceandwhisky

5 ай бұрын

Hence why I speed, 🤣 always gone before the incident would of happened 😂

Twenty years ago on CD-ROM etc my wife was doing her hazper rehearsals, filmed through a wet windscreen in Swansea I had a go. Approaching roundabout, wet roads potentially slippery oil and diesel spills at give way area, woman with child on left, shops to left and right, parked cars on left potential for pedestrians to step out or doors on cars to open ( clicking on some of these , no response, can’t click too often or the computer thinks you’re cheating ) arrive at roundabout THIRTY EIGHT TON ARTIC APPEARS!!!! Apparently that was the hazard. Literally nothing else.

The hazard perception test is, or at least was, flawed. I did one for my bus license. The examiner watched me do it. I failed because I was spotting the hazards sooner than the software thought I should, so considered my clicks to be spam clicks and marked me down. Examiner saw this, said I could go again, but this time, as soon as I spot the hazard, count to 3 then click. Passed the second time doing that with full marks. So yeah, not really worth it in my opinion. All I learned was how to handle the software, not the hazard. I'd like to think that since that spring morning in 2005, I've learned a LOT. I'm often spotting hazards before my friends do, often getting a "How did you know that?!". It is something that comes with experience. Personally, I come across far too many drivers that only react to what is just in front of their front bumper. No forward planning, no observations and I am betting absolutely no hazard perception.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

I remember my instructor talking about the hazard perception test and saying that he, and all other instructors he knows, failed it purely for that reason. I have taken a mock hazard perception test and it didn’t like me clicking for an upcoming bend, nor the road sign that said “Side road”, or the word “SLOW” in the road, it even complained when I saw a car approaching said side road. Apparently I had to click once the car had reached the end of the road…a full 5 seconds after seeing the signs of a potential hazard and over 2 seconds from first seeing the car 🤷🏻‍♂️ I think, like advanced driving tests, you should be sitting with someone and explaining why you are clicking and then they can override the software to say “Yes, suitable clicking” or leave it spam clicking

@roblewis226

5 ай бұрын

Too many people only stop when they can't physically go any further, usually blocking everyone in place as a result.

@johnbooth5199

5 ай бұрын

I failed my 1st hazard perception test for that reason. I got a low score, because I was clicking too early. All the test did, was teach me how to get the software to respond as I wanted it to. Plus, the clips were from a fixed perspective, so you couldn't look into corners. I've got less than 1000 miles, under my belt, but I know to see where I'm going to be, in relation to other road users. I've not driven a lot, but I've spent a lot of time on the road, as a passenger.

@philsteele7151

5 ай бұрын

I did exactly the same for my LGV failed by 1 point, second time i did it passed with 85 percent, by clicking when i percieved the hazard then left it a couple of seconds depending on how fast things were developing and went for a safety click, if you click too soon you get nothing, just dont over click it.

@hennersss

5 ай бұрын

It's not flawed, you just misunderstood the format like millions of others. You don't get points for identifying potential hazards, you only recieve points for identifying developing hazards. Your examiner should have understood this.

Never really been on Twitter but i can say when i watch dashcam clips on places like Facebook. So many people in the comments section are scarily blank minded towards the system that it's a real headache to see. It's like no one thinks about adapting to situations. That's why i like these videos, keep up the good teachings Ash 👌

I have been driving for 42 years , mostly professional I am still learning every day . I take my hat off to you , very professional keep up the good work .

"Driving like a driving instructor" takes on a whole different meaning from what I see from a lot of instructors when they don't have a pupil in the car!

@rufusgreenleaf2466

5 ай бұрын

Usually as soon as they take the roof box off at the end of the day.

@mightyhead4962

5 ай бұрын

Need to rename the series "How To Drive Like A Driving Instructor Should"

I passed my driving test 3 years ago and I still watch these lol

@boywarrick

5 ай бұрын

Good on you! Passed my test 20 years ago and still watching! There is absolutely no shame in wanting to constantly improve. The roads would be a much better place if everyone had the same mindset.

@ChrisBrown-px1oy

5 ай бұрын

Me too; 37 years ago next month.

54 min, I'll need to split this one. All good. A lot of folks by appearances are not good at projecting positions of their own vehicle and others on the road. 02:02: A quick look around the vehicle, no hazards spotted, and off we go! Modeling good practice, as always.

Was quite surprised at your approach at 15:30. All made sense at first, not using a misleading signal etc, but from the position you ended up in I don't see any issue in you then, with appropriate caution (speed, being aware of people overtaking or using the right turn area etc) using the broken hatched area to access the right turn lane.

I passed my theory test a few years back, and find it to be a money spinning idea for the DVSA. The multiple choice questions do not make you a better or safer driver. The hazard perception either wants you to click for a hazard ridiculously quickly or you spot the situation early as it develops and dont get any marks because your anticipation was too good. It does absolutely nothing to make you a better driver. You learn how to drive practically , on the road, under the eye of your driving instructor

@ryanmitcham5522

5 ай бұрын

>hazard ridiculously quickly or you spot the situation early as it develops and dont get any marks because your anticipation was too good The advice I was given for this was to click as soon as you see the hazard, but then click a couple more times in the following few seconds. This covers both scenarios of needing to click quickly for some hazards but being 'too quick' for others, but is not too much clicking to trigger the spam click protection. I did this and passed first time with full marks. Ridiculous, but it worked.

This narrated approach, telling us what you're looking at, is so useful in showing how it ought to be done. Not that most people could then narrate when they're driving, but it would illustrate the level of attention that we're supposed to be paying. I was lucky in managing to persuade my driving instructor 40 years ago to do this for part of one of my lessons, and then again similar with my IAM observer (he had ROSPA gold) 20 years ago.

Another highly informative and, in this case, exceptionally entertaining video! Loads of things stood out, which you asked us to mention in the comments. Hope you enjoy this one! 08:54 "Normal Green Focus ST ASBO mode." Definitely a "snort out the coffee" moment. 😀 11:52 you didn't comment on the conflict with the birds 🙂 I had a bird fly out in front of me the other day. The result was Bird 0 Jaguar 1 but I suppose that was better than a windscreen strike when it could have been game over for me as well as for the poor wee bird. Sorry to hear your cough and the rough throat. I assume you checked for Covid. I was feeling poorly before Christmas, then a friend recommended I try a COVID test and lo and behold it was positive. Joy. Totally agree with your rant on the hazard perception test. As an advanced driver doing a sample hazard perception test, I was clicking on the possibility of a hazard developing, not just when it springs up in front of me. So I clicked on a sign of a flood / ford as a hazard, then the place where the water was crossing the road as well. It turned out the actual hazard was a poor tractor emerge later in the video. Since you get marked down or even fail the test by clicking on too many things before the actual hazard emerges, the hazard perception test teaches you NOT to spot potential hazards (because you fail the test if you do). That's even before considering the point you make, that the hazard perception test does not teach you how to avoid (let alone preempt) a hazard. So the whole thing could be a bit counterproductive at the end of the day. At 12:50, when you were turning right into a traffic light junction on a filter, it's worth mentioning a quick door mirror check to ensure there isn't a kamikaze biker zooming up the offside to cut the corner and swell the ranks of the organ donors. You did do a check all around as you went into the junction even though the lights were in your favour. That's useful in case an emergency vehicle is treating the red light as a "Give Way" sign, plus of course the sudden arrival of a red light jumper which seems to be a special worry in Liverpool! At 13:32 you are spot on when calling the potential for conflict with pedestrians you could not see at the pedestrian crossing lights. Just because you can't see somebody doesn't mean nobody is there. It's reasonable to suspect there is a hidden pedestrian or two at those lights, but I loved the way you checked as you got visibility into the area where they might be lurking. Loved the "Cycling Twitter" rant too. Top marks. At 22:48 you are so right about having the power to go a little bit faster. It allows you to get away from vehicles blocking visibility, so you can put your car where you are "here, and seen, and safe." In that sense, more powerful cars are actually safer (provided you have the self-control to drive them within the limits). They give you options in given situations. Motorway merges, for example, are FAR safer. At 23:26, yes I agree with your comments on DVSA not handling the issue of pedestrians at junctions brilliantly. As you put it with beautiful simplicity, "It hasn't worked". 🙂 At 24:34 another LOL at your comment about misbehaviour from others and the line "You have to get into this mindset now, that all other drivers are absolute idiots." 😀 Yes, I have found myself too trusting too often - and, I have to confess, I've also been an absolute idiot at times but hopefully I have been learning to improve that so I'm no longer an "absolute" idiot! (With your help, of course. 🙂) At 32:28 the car slowing excessively over the speed bumps reminds me. Speed bumps don't work. If anything, they slow you down. At 39:07, we again witness your ability to predict the future around the next bend. Superb. If you find some lottery numbers flashing before your eyes as you drive along, call them out so the dashcam captures them. They could be handy come the weekend. At 41:36, nice courtesy to let the Volvo out and you got a nice acknowledgement. Do you ever get a surprised reaction when people see the bright green ASBO car and a driver showing courtesy? I used to find that a lot when I switched from driving old, knackered Jags to a BMW for a while. Drivers reacted with shock when I drove around in a BMW and showed them courtesy! Let alone when I used signals... At 44:28 "The speed you are actually doing is determined by what we're seeing out there." Hear, hear! Golden! At 45:24, the little dink to the left, to let drivers behind you see the right turn signal on the white car ahead, was a thing of beauty. Few people think to manoeuvre their car so that other road users can see past them to useful signals or signs. Shows the unselfish attitude towards helping flow, and also makes it less likely you will end up with the car behind snorting your exhaust fumes because the driver failed to spot the car two in front was slowing down to turn right. Brilliant! At 47:30, I totally agree with relaxing when static and taking the hands of the steering wheel if you want. I don't always do that, but if you are driving around a lot, it can be good to move position and relax the arms. It means you are going to take better control when you put your hands back on the steering wheel. At 48:04 "BMW was lovely" - I did not detect a note of surprise in your voice; shows your professionalism, also perhaps as a fellow former BMW driver you are not so surprised when a BMW driver actually shows courtesy. 🙂 At 49:14 you give statement A: "You don't get many cyclists in Liverpool cycling properly, unfortunately... people who usually use bikes just ride on the pavements or they just do big wheelies down the middle of the road." Statement B: "There's not a big cycling community in Liverpool". I am wondering if there is a causal link between Statement A and Statement B!? At 51:45, another example of predicting the future. "Is the van going to be racing me?" Answer: YES! I like to move off promptly from the lights in lane 2, that gives me options before a lane merge up ahead. If I get ahead of the vehicle in lane 1, I slot in with no bother and good flow. If the vehicle in lane 1 races me, I just drop back and slot in behind them. No issues, still good flow. They might get an ego boost but that's not my problem. Let them go ahead! That's exactly what you ended up doing with the van. I do love these "how to drive like a driving instructor" videos. Keep them coming, Ashley!

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

I do love all your comments and observations on these videos. People will read them and learn even more from just watching the video alone. Thank you!

@R04drunner1

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal made my day thanks 🙂

@dereksmith6126

5 ай бұрын

I had a collision with an owl while riding a moped back in the day. It hit my leg.

I used to be a forklift truck instructor and my favourite saying was “just assume everyone else is an idiot and you won’t go far wrong”. Still when driving on my own I find myself saying out loud “look at me”

You know what, I totally agree with the hazard perception. It literally is all about clicking and looking out for hazards. You aren't thinking about, "ok I am approaching a crossing in 100 metres, I should think about slowing down and keeping my eyes on the hazard and be prepared to stop". None of that. Just click away, that's it. it's nonsense.

Your videos ashley are so educational!

Really good. The way you have time, not only to see risk but to talk about it, makes me realise I need to practice more.

These types of videos are so good. It's taught me a lot

Ashley I’m an ADI and was a director of one of the ADI bodies when HPT was forced upon us who qualified before it was introduced into part 1, we had lots of instructors failing mainly our more highly qualified guys who had been delivering Blue Light training, we ask if the DSA (as it was back then) if they could supply a break down as to where our members clicked in relation to the scoring window and it soon became clear our members were psychic as they were ALL CLICKING 3/4 seconds before the scoring window.. They were all clicking BEFORE the hazard had developed and hence scoring zero the DSA refused to answer our question as to why it was a good idea to allow the potential hazard to develop.. I tell ALL my pupils they can click when the first spot the hazard but the scoring window only opens when a trigger point has occurred usually a brake light or an indicator flashing.. Of course there some clips where this does happen a couple come to mind.. You’re driving along a country road that is covered in snow and ice, you can see a herd of deer grazing near the roadside a long way up ahead the scoring window does not open until one is almost next the animals when a youngster raises its head looks at the car and then runs across in front of us, maybe 9/10 seconds after first sighting them!!! Another is you are driving in lane one of a dual carriageway/Motorway at night and there is a lorry moving from side to side in its lane as though the driver was tired/drunk or using their mobile, which they continue to do, the scoring window only opens when the lorry’s wheels go over the white lines momentarily!!!! I could go on but I tell my clients HPT is a video game and a very poor one at that Specialising as I do teaching the physically disabled and/or learning difficulties I could go on about how I believe the theory test needs approximately a third of the questions rewritten as they use words many of my students would never use nor would candidates who for English is not their first language, incline instead of hill/slope and I attended six meeting in Nottingham to try and get the theory questions put on a level playing field with several charities in attendance as well we all agreed the use of Lane 1/2/3 like the emergency services do and would cause far less confusion than left middle right but the guy in charge refused that point blank, he also refused to listen to the British Deaf Association rep complaining that the signers were using ancient, modern and several regional variations of BSL and was probably the cause that deaf candidates had the highest failure rate of all groups and STILL DO 12 YEARS ON!!!!

I live in Liverpool, IAM biker and just done BikeSafe... get a bike... always learning! Actually find Liverpool drivers pretty good... compared to some cities

Bug been going around I was very unwell over Christmas, glad your feeling better now. 😊

Thank you Ashley for another thought-provoking video. I always watch it to the end because it's always worthwhile. I have given up on watching other nonsense mock test videos on another channel, as they don't seem to be enough in discouraging a lack of seriousness towards one's driving attitude. Your viewers definitely know how you value them and the safe driving attitude and skills you teach. Much appreciated.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

I *LOVE* these videos... well, I love any and all of your videos.

Very much enjoyed the video. It's nice to see how my driving skills match up to an experts. I found most of my thought processes align with yours. The phrase "Best flow for everyone" is something I now use in my head as I drive which I have always practiced but now more so. I'm certainly not inexperienced as I've had a full licence since the 70s, but your videos have certainly taught me how to think better while driving.

Love these types of videos

I'd very much like to see some motorcycle content from you Ash. Keep up the great content!

Another vintage item from my favourite series - hats off!

@13:43 i like how you spotted the orange car and could clear out the way in time so went but the ford behind you just followed you on, doing it mostly wrong and the orange car flashed its lights at that ford lol

Just superb as ever Ashley. YES I aspire to drive like you! (But many times I've seen driver instructor cars hereabouts in Kent with only one person inside, presumably an instructor, do questionable things, so NO, I don't want to drive like any driving instructor.)

@40:30 you said at some point about making sure the driver sat waiting at a junction, "can they see me?", this is something my dad taught me and i find it very useful, some others may do so too, espically when you see the white car a few seconds later. watch for movement of the front wheel (add it to the other things you check as drive past to stay safe). you will see the front wheel move before you see anything else from the vehicle to indicate they have not seen you and think its clear to pull out of the junction. its kept me safe for many years and helps me out often.

"Hand on top of steering wheel while waiting" (at around 11 to 1 o'clock) is one bit of body language I subconsciously found myself looking out for. May or may not be true but it's a pattern I notice and saw it a few times in this video with vehicles waiting behind. It seems to indicate impatience. Maybe it's the way it positions one to reach forward but it always seems to be those who do that who are going to be tailgating the acceleration, shifting across to overtake when they get the chance etc. It's often from that stance that you also get the little animated lift of the hand if they're particularly triggered by slow/careful driving.

I have a theory that clicking a screen when a hazard is seen during the hazard perception test _is teaching_ an auto response to push something upon seeing a hazard in reality…usually the horn instead of the brake

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Spot on Bob!

@PedroConejo1939

5 ай бұрын

Interesting theory, and probably entirely correct. One thing is for sure: it doesn't begin to address conflict avoidance.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

@@PedroConejo1939 Indeed it doesn’t. I just took another online test and failed (well, scored 2/5) as I saw the potential hazard a full 9 seconds before it became an issue and got points deducted for clicking too many time and too early (I spotted other hazards not part of the video)

@user-mv5zt8qd9l

5 ай бұрын

In my experience as an instructor, it also translates to people pressing the brake when they need to be speeding up to reduce risk.

I've often wondered if the people who over-rely on signals are the same people you can sometimes see in dashcam videos who, after they've caused a collision, emerge shouting "but I was signalling!!". 😃

you mentioned about motorbikes, yes, i would be interested in content from you to do with motorbikes. in 2021, after 10 years of not riding a motorbike, me and the wife bought a motorbike. it was interesting getting back into the swing of things but thanks to the advanced driving knowledge i know it helped a lot to take it easy and get confident again. lots of learners and experienced bikers could benefit from your thoughts while on a motorbike. also, MAG i think it is, are brining up the point of internal combustion engine motorbikes could be a thing of the past according to the government and the target of 2030, so it could be its now or never to get on a motrbike if you dont fancy an electric motorbike.

Driving to college and it was always a case of arriving at the same time but there's a bus parked on the left. I've always approached this road at a steady speed but I've struggled to deal with the oncoming traffic coming onto my side of the road when they're overtaking a bus on their side. Watching this video was really helpful to anticipate way ahead 👍🏽11:09

I've really taken to adjusting the gap in front to give a car joining the road or a car crossing my path to exit enough time to do so without me having to do much at all. There's a junction I give a six second gap if it's busy. I'm still going the same speed as traffic but in front of me is an opportunity for others to do what they are going to do before I even get there so the traffic is already moving or gone. See also red lights or queues at roundabouts. Obviously sometimes I do have to stop but very often I don't and that just scratches an itch in my soul. Not only that but I get pretty good mileage for town driving because the engine is consistently cruising. It does, however, upset the brain donors who wish to race and stop, race and stop over and over again or block others joining traffic in front of them. They don't seem to notice that they can magically tailgate me through green lights. I bought my car to drive it not sit in it.

I broke my foot 3 weeks ago and obviously i cant drive, so i decided whilst im not able to do a lot is to watch all of your drive like a driving instructor videos and i personally think this is your best one. I agree with the hazard perception test its well and truly flawed, when i did it for my bus test it's bloody awful the way its done now, i did pass it first time though. Keep these sort of videos coming i really enjoy them, and i cant wait to get driving again.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Hope you get better soon!

@neiltill

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal Thanks Ashley 👍

Seeing the actual body language of the driver with the child in the front seat at 38:06, be very aware that they might not have had a lot of sleep and could be shorter tempered than usual. So even if your intentions are true, and you are managing the space between you, them and things in front, they may take things personally and beep the horn or wave the arms. Do not react to it, do not take it personally. If you are a new parent and you find your fuse a little shorter than usual, ask a friend or family member if you can to come round so you can get a few additional hours recharge sleep. It does help

Just happened to wake up at 4:30 am Vancouver time and noticed this came in about an hour ago. I see it's 54 mins in duration. Will watch with great interest later in the day. In the meantime, we are expecting a so called "atmospheric river" of rain here in Vancouver over the next few days, which means a great deal of rainfall. Hope you are all having better luck with the weather back in the UK. Stay safe everyone. 🇨🇦🇬🇧

@hennersss

5 ай бұрын

Incredibly boring.

Great lesson Ashley. I was a BSM Instructor many years ago and this was a good refresher. Also riding Motorcycles for 40 years helps in assessing risks on the move. Self preservation.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@20shourya

5 ай бұрын

I had to read that twice.

@dereksmith6126

5 ай бұрын

Riding a bike is great for hazard awareness, as a 'little bump' might mean a broken body part! A good rider looks at the 'escape route' and not at the hazard because you invariably go where your looking.

Hi Ashley, would it be possible to include speed too in these videos? It will demonstrate when you should slow down and roughly how much. I think atleast I find that helpful in understanding technique.

Did my hazard perception a couple of months ago. It teaches you one thing: how to pass that *specific* test which was 100% CGI. Much preferred training with real video practice clips. Though in its defence, it can't teach you all you need to know. It might be nice to have a simulator so that you can more marks for avoidance and prevention of conflict than have to deal with it once it develops, but that is probably just too costly and impractical. Instead, i think of it as a minimum level, with the rest done with a competent ADI on real roads. If you don't reach that minimal level, you're certainly not ready for the roads yet.

Hope you are all right Ashley. I also had a horrible lurgy at about Christmas.

Anticipation + Accommodation - a great combo, it’s not about being a doormat for other poor drivers, it reduces risk and increases flow. Too many people drive/ride with things on their mind or with a self-centred attitude. Check your mental state on every journey to make sure nothing is distracting you.

30:54, hyundai was fixated on the green light

Hi Ashley, on the subject of motorcycling, would you consider doing a Bike Safe course? I'm sure many of us could take something useful from that video, regardless of whether we're bikers, cyclists or motorists.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

I'm toying with the idea of getting another bike at the moment.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_nealLooking forward to a new channel from you… Ashley Neal - Back In The Leathers

@douglasreid699

5 ай бұрын

if Ashley decides not to, teapotone has a video or 2 on his bike safe course from a year or 2 ago which was quite useful to watch.

+1 for motorbike videos

Going off-topic for a moment, it saddened me to see so many shops shuttered at two o'clock on a weekday. I thought at the start it was a Sunday

One thing I could mention relating to thiis video is to do with the types of roads people drive on can be different. Some people drive in towns all the time, some people on mostly rural roads and some people will spend most of their time on motorways. Take my commute to work... one main road for a mile, 8 miles of motorway, 2 miles of bypass and 0.5 mile into an industrial estate. Someone else coming to the same place of work might have to battle across the nearby city centre. Our competence on each others route isn 't going to be as good if we swapped. During the pandemic I drove up the M6 a lot to go walking. Once clear of the M55 it was pretty clear and I could stick at 70 all the way to my rural destination. These days commuting on the M65 I can't do that because of the traffic. I've had to practice travelling in traffic again.

I also think a potential conflict could occur Infront of the bus and some people chose to walk out Infront instead of behind. As this could be a danger but the person may not see a issue but it is dangerous. ( Person walking Infront of stationary bus could cause a conflict) uncommon but a quick mention

Even if we were to assume that the hazard percenption test was worthwhite (I agree it's not, for the reasons you mention) when did mine (about 10 years ago) I found that the resolution, even at 1080p video, is just so much worse than real life that by the time the video shows clear enough a hazard, I would have seen it much sooner in real life. As an example of this, even when I watch this video back in 4k on a 4k monitor, I could barley make out some of the distant things you talked about until after you talked about them because they were only 2-6 pixels in size on the screen at the moment you saw them.

Observe & plan. Much of the time if you do that when you see a potential conflict ahead you can avoid it simply by lifting off the gas pedal. Timing. That white VW box van…..going ahead while in a strict right-turn only lane….can almost say for sure that was going to happen. Part of my work route takes me from a lovely 50mph bypass down into multi lanes with arrows + lights just like that example. You gotta think What are THEY going todo every time you drive it. Some people unfamiliar with the area simply get it wrong while others do it deliberately. I bet there’s not many Brits that would pick up on the car shifting from Park thru Reverse + Neutral into Drive ready to pull away. Be careful, my Honda and my old Vauxhall automatics do/did that but in my VW, if I shifted quickly the reverse lights didn’t flash. I would be using cruise control on that long stretch of 20mph.

Cycling twitter is all about idealists. They say "i should" because you cant argue with the ideal situation. Life isnt ideal.

The little section at 8:08 after you pass the lorry on approach to the roundabout, you mention about using the speed buffer if you need to and quite right. However, I would also be tempted to add “if you can use the extra speed” - only because if you was in a vehicle without low end torque or slow to pull away then you could end up back in conflict with the lorry as you emerge onto the roundabout 👍 Just thinking back to my days of driving a 1.0L Vauxhall Nova

@johnbooth5199

5 ай бұрын

Which is why I prefer to resolve 'same space/time' conflicts by slowing down. I've only got a asthmatic 1.2, so speeding-up is not usually an option.

@kevinfairclough4619

5 ай бұрын

“Also be be tempted to add if you you can use the extra speed” wtf. We don’t have to drive the nova anymore, thankfully. I don’t think Mr. Neal will go back and edit his footage when he stated he was doing this unscripted. This was a brilliant demonstration from someone who knows how to use the road safely.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

@kevinfairclough4619 I wouldn't expect Ashley to contemplate editing the footage and as someone who has given both scripted and unscripted training to people, it is very easy to miss certain points. Correct, what Ashley did was safe and was brilliant. However, my point was, and as mentioned by someone that replied, not all vehicles have the ability to perform the quick acceleration. I had a loan car from a garage a couple of years ago that had worse acceleration than the Nova I mentioned. Would I try to out accelerate a lorry on a roundabout with it? No, I would hold back. I recently entered a roundabout in my vehicle where i happily used acceleration to not be in conflict with a lorry next to me, but then adjusted speed to not be in conflict with the next one already on the roundabout. My point is not every situation is accelerate first and each situation is different based upon both what is already around you *and* what is under your right foot. Thank you for your and apologies if it has been misunderstood either side of the posts 👍 Take care out there

Thanks so much.. Could you do a one on a big roundabout changing lanes on it PLEASE as I must drive to Dublin.. Bless you Tommy

If you do decide to make some motorcycling content i do hope it will not mean cutting back on your cycling videos. I now consider myself a cyclist first and motorist occasional second, so enjoy the cycling content most, although I do still benefit from both. Excellent video by the way, good way of looking at reducing risk and conflict by not arriving at the same place and time as someone else.

2:19 Anticipated the van potentially cutting the corner, slowed down to let it finish. 15:12 I'd have gone over the hatching and around the Vauxhall, as you did at 28:23; best flow for everyone includes yourself. 18:56 Slowing down earlier to go through quicker... I think you meant faster, as in with a higher minimum speed. Everything else being equal the time to clear is unaffected. 31:28 Yes to motorbike content. Also more HGV, TDI/PDI, and another beginner to pass series would be welcomed. 43:06 Whilst possibly a grey area (I can't be bothered to sift through the legislation), I'd suggest it could be an offense to drive with an obstructed speedometer.

Interesting this is the day that the video you posted ,then, had parallels with this video where the cyclist arrived at the same point and time as the pedestrians waiting to cross at the roundabout exit, and there was the conflict with the car behind with no hazard perception and which raced for the exit and only spotted that the cyclist had stopped at the last second.

Good video! Oh how I wish everyone drove like this! Could use your take on something. Here in Wales, the default speed limit is 20 instead of 30, and whenever I am at the 20 limit, there is *always* a queue of people behind me. Often they tailgate, flash, beep etc, but worse than this, there have been a number of dangerous overtakes due to impatience. Is there anything I can do (other than speeding) to facilitate the flow, and minimise people's road rage? Should I have to pull over and let people pass every few minutes? Honestly, I'm getting nervous each time I get behind the wheel.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Don't be pressured by people wanting to break the rules, but sometimes circumnavigating a roundabout to allow a few cars to go ahead is a good idea. I always then think it's amusing when you catch them up again at the following set of lights.

On the 20mph stretch, we went on holiday in wales. we had lots of conflict sadly due to their new limits, people were dangerous, overtaking beeping horns and tailgate flashing lights, trying to make me speed up it was actually frightening to see my son so worried. I agree 20mph round by school and hospitals and town centre but some of the 20mph in wales are a joke and it increases road rage

@dereksmith6126

5 ай бұрын

It always some group who think they are doing there bit but don't think about the practicalities of their new law.

15:10 interesting that you decided to hold back there. Personally, I would have used the broken hatched lines of the right-turn refuge to proceed. You can enter a broken line hatched area when 'it is seen by the driver to be safe to do so '.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

And necessary, which it wasn't.

@shm5547

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal the TSRGD doesn't mention 'necessary', but rule 130 of the highway code does. It's quite a subjective assessment. You could argue it was necessary in order to safely pass the queuing traffic!

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Another MGIF road user. Just follow all the advice in the highway code rather than picking and choosing which you want to.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Why was it necessary to pass the queueing traffic?

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Are you looking that one up also? You don't get time to do that on the road you know.

11:12 I remember years ago the point was raised about vehicles crossing the line in the road and entering "your space" as a "what if", if you didn't move over, would they be at fault? The answer, which may surprise people is that the insurance company for both parties would suggest that in a case such as we see, for example, if Ashley didn't move, the claim is driving without care and consideration and it would be 50/50. Obviously, if Ashley was forced into an illegal situation then that would not be the case. That was backed up some years later with that scenario in an "Honest John" question, where a reader could have moved over on a very wide road, but stuck to the centre line and was hit a vehicle that had moved over.

Excellent

5:10 I don't think it's fair to say that the 71-year-old cyclist rode poorly because she wasn't able to deal with the hazard that presented itself. The hazard in question was a driver pulling out quickly and without warning into her path. She probably couldn't even see that the driver was going to do that since the other car in front of them was blocking her view till the last moment. If I cycle quickly and unexpectedly straight into the main road at a give way sign, I can't expect drivers to always be able to stop.

37:50 - 'they're foe'. Too right. Undertaking the vehicle behind before stopping about 2 inches behind your rear bumper. What is the matter with this person?

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

I would take a guess at them not getting their usual quota of sleep being a new (ish) parent and driving a lot on auto pilot Goes to show what (potential) tiredness can do to driving

12:36 that driver on the nearside of the cycle shouldn't have overtaken like that - they got significantly closer than the 1.5-metre overtaking advice. The Highway Code also says to remain behind cyclists at junctions and not undertake unless the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right. 13:01 the cyclist continued straight ahead from the correct lane BTW Ash!

That nasty cough has been hitting a lot of people. Had it start on returning to work early January. Took 2w to get over the worst part. Lots of Strepsils 3x action and cough medicine. My cousin who is only 29 had it worse than me and GP put her on antibiotics.

Should the hazard perception be moved to the practical? and done a bit like it is on the more advanced tests where you have talked through hazards, etc.? I know when I was learning to drive/growing up, my dad(who was trained up the level of a traffic cop), and my instructor used a lesson like this and made me talk through the hazard etc. It really helped me to become a better driver.

And your psychic abilities are at it again...I have a clip ready to send over to you of someone behind not signalling on approach but then they signal left so I shuffle up in the queue to allow them, plus two others, to flow through the junction. It isn't hard to keep flow for everyone if we all keep looking around and planning ahead, even when stationary

Hi Ashley. Love all of your videos. Would you recommend an advanced driving course? I want to become a better driver and feel like I need extra training to get there.

I remember my hazard perception test. I took it only a few years after it came in. I scored really well on most, but there was one which I got 0/10 for. The clip was of a bike on a diagonal path in a park next to the road, which then joined the pavement and then rode off the pavement onto the road. It was obvious straight away that this was what was going to happen. But when did the software think you should click? I have no idea!

But if we all did this, how would we get dashcam clips for our channels?😅😅😅😅

I know what your doing Ashley. To your wife "But darling I have to get a motorcycle as my viewers are clamouring to get safety advice from their favourite instructor" 😂😂😂

Hi Ashley,thanks for the video just wondering if you could have driven through hatch marks where taxi van overtook you since is a broken hatch mark.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

It has to be safe and necessary and I don't think it was necessary.

I always try to imagine that the other driver might not know the local road layout and could find themselves in the wrong lane or worse. If I can I help them out, and hopefully if it happens to me someone will do the same for me.

With regards to having arms off the steering wheel I can testify that having arms out holding onto something causes more issues. 9 years ago I was hit from behind while my left arm was stretched out changing into neutral gear (gear level was more forward than most…Peugeot 806). That took the majority of the soft tissue damage in the shoulder and neck whereas the arm resting on an arm rest gently holding the steering had no soft tissue damage I am getting quite worried now Ashley that you might be spying on us…I uploaded the video of the accident to KZread only yesterday and it is scheduled to go live tomorrow 😉

100000% agree the hazard perception is a joke

The hazard perception test isn't a hazard awareness test in my opinion. I failed due to spotting things way too early - which to me defeats the entire point of it, to be punished for being aware of events that could occur before the software deems it would. To be more precise it's a non associated situational awareness game. 'Spot what is happening on the road within our designated window of events'. That to me, is almost completely useless for driving.

At 11:10, you got no buses to your left. I am curious to know why you didn't drive partially into the bus lane to give the oncoming vehicles more space? Is it just that it's something so strictly enforced that you are worried about being pulled up by police?

39:00 Question about 2 lanes splitting into 3. Does anyone have priority going into the middle lane I drive home this way every day, and I've never been sure if moving over to the middle lane from the left lane is appropriate to create more space for additional cars to pass the lights.

Common sense is long gone 😒

The highway code says this so im correct minset i hate. Instead of adjusting to the situation

@johnbooth5199

5 ай бұрын

I saw a really good example of this, posted on reddit, but I can't find it again. The video was from a cyclist's helmetcam, and it showed the cyclist riding through a supermarket car park, when the cyclist comes upon a car backing out of a space. The cyclist rides down the row of cars on the left, riding diagonally towards the row. As he approaches the car that is already reversing, he sees the car moving, then carries on towards the back left of the car, and bangs on the quarterlight, shouting "YOU HAVE TO GIVE WAY TO ME!" using the loud "roadie" voice. You could't see the driver at all, nor could you see the mirrors. Why would you put your self behind a reversing vehicle? Everybody walking, was stood back, allowing the car to reverse. Some people don't appear to have a functioning survival instinct, odd.

@wrightwoodwork

5 ай бұрын

@johnbooth5199 some people don't help themselves. Priority is given not taken. Any decent road user assists to make safe.

@johnbooth5199

5 ай бұрын

@@wrightwoodwork I know!, I help people all the time, no matter if I'm driving or walking. If someone's having difficulty, then just hold back and help, don't hinder. Since I've learnt to drive, It made me appreciate sightlines more. I used to stand in the way at junctions, while waiting for cars, oops. Now I know where the driver is looking, so I don't stand in the way.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

I recently had a discussion with someone else on KZread with regards to overtaking. A car overtook a cammer vehicle where there wasn’t adequate space to filter back into but the cammer accelerated slightly to make the space smaller. They were adamant that the other vehicle shouldn’t have overtaken based upon rules in the highway code stating only overtake when safe. They failed to comprehend that the highway code also states to accommodate those overtaking and if necessary to reduce speed to increase braking distance. They remained resolute that they did nothing wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

@wrightwoodwork

5 ай бұрын

@smilerbob delusional. The thing is if there had been an accident and the dash cam evidence was presented they would have been held partially responsible as they could have reduced risk. The attitude of some is like a 5 year old say Molly hit me so I hit her back. They overtook me so I closed the space. Pathetic really. I'll be the first to admit I've not read the highway code since I passed my test 30 years ago. Despite that I still know to make safe for other road users. Say like giving people maximum space if stood on the road or slowing down . It's pretty basic stuff

02:53: What is that line across the traffic lines? Not being completely familiar with British practices and rules, I would have been inclined to halt my vehicle there on a red signal, Clearly that would have been incorrect. Re: "Speed Limirs", amazing the number of folks that don't understand that the posted limit might be too fast and could get you a ticket.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

That's a good spot! This is the main entrance to the racecourse at Aintree, where the Grand National is held. That line across the road looks as though it is where the road is cordoned off on race days. Never even noticed it myself!

@inyobill

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal Ahhh, thanks too much for the reply, much obliged.

@smilerbob

5 ай бұрын

There is similar on other roads where I believe it is used as the closure demarcation for events. Constitution Hill in London, for example, has bricks instead of a painted line presumably as it sees more traffic than the road in this video. It makes it easier than trying to measure the exact distance everytime I could be wrong but the police line and signs are always there or there abouts when I have gone passed

@inyobill

5 ай бұрын

@@smilerbob Thanks, appreciate the info mate.

Ive done some of the on-line hazard perception test and i feel they aint real . Vision is only straight in front you cant san left or right as you will do when driving.. if you spot a hazard before the computer its still not marked even though you know its a hazard. Maybe a simulator for test where you have to brake or adjust to the hazard. Would be more realistic

@Alan_Clark

5 ай бұрын

If you report the hazard three times then it should be recorded even if the first is too early for the computer.

@wrightwoodwork

5 ай бұрын

@Alan_Clark yeah I've figured that out as a licence holder we will often adjust adjust our driving so the hazard never actually becomes a hazard. If that makes sense.

@Alan_Clark

5 ай бұрын

@@wrightwoodwork It makes perfect sense - be proactive rather than reactive - although many commenters on KZread videos don't seem to understand.

Don't do 33 indicated on your test, though!

25:30 I see so many cyclists get cut up by drivers who ignore that cycle lane entirely, or aggressively close down the space at the end of the cycle lane.

At 7:28 Hard to believe there are people who will say you are in the truckers blind spot.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Don't truck have blindspots?

@billyporter1389

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal They have blind spots but not at 7:28. If it did then nobody should overtake. Do you think you were in the blind spot?

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Nowhere near it.

@SteveMcIlhennie

5 ай бұрын

If a sparrow shits on the windscreen some people would call it a blind spot.

I've heard it said that the vast majority of collisions would have been avoided if each road user would have reacted just one second earlier.

@123MondayTuesday

5 ай бұрын

I heard it was 1 second later

@ibs5080

5 ай бұрын

@@123MondayTuesday You must have heard it one second after I did.

Covering up the speedometer…. Is that legal? ….i do find I flow better with traffic when I look less at the speedometer. As a pedestrian I would prefer someone drive at 34mph and be observant rather than driving at 30mph and not being observant. Tho technically by the law 34mph is breaking the law and therefore a “worse” driver by that standard.

What is the plastic clip on your seatbeat Ashley? Not ideal to wear anything on the seatbelt like that, or walllets in breast pockets or lanyards round the neck where the ID card is near the chest. Can do a lot of soft tissue damage in an accident apparentely.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

It's a microphone 👍

@chrisl1797

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal Thought it was. Thanks.

The hazard perception test is nothing more than a computer game. It doesnt translate to driving at all, it just makes some people fearful of everything and constantly braking every time they see something

ashley youve had this cold for ages are u ok 😂

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Still at the back end of it now!

@rastacat

5 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal get well soon lol

1st

@Keithbarber

5 ай бұрын

Not done that for ages

@patrickbourke2385

5 ай бұрын

Good job Keith

@buildbright

5 ай бұрын

1st the worse, 2nd the best, 3rd the one with the hairy chest...

@thomaselliot2257

5 ай бұрын

​@@Keithbarberit HAS been noticed 🙂

@DW-indeed

5 ай бұрын

​@@buildbright damn, I've not heard that in a few decades 😆

I dont think you are biased against cyclists, but it is like Cycling Twitter is living rent free in your head. I don't use X very often at all, maybe once a week, if that, so it does just come across like your just having a cyclist rants every few minutes. I know you're not, you are fair and balanced based on all your cycling content I've watched of yours. The reason I point this out is because: outside of twitter or X, the anti-cyclist mentality is farcical, all I see is "should be paying road tax" merchants.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Why do I keep going on about these type of riders then? What's my purpose?

@_Unforeseen_

5 ай бұрын

​@@ashley_neal Youre trying to reiterate the point that being safe is far more important than being in the right on the roads. And those very people who criticise the cyclists for everything are the people who you have to share the roads with. But i agree with you, like i said twice, which you seem to not have seen, you are absolutely a fair and balanced person when it comes to cyclists. I'm Just saying it gets lost when you constantly rant about cycling twitter, it comes across as just ranting and the points you are trying to make get lost.

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

I did see your comment first time round, but I was just interested because it was logical and well thought through whether people really understand why I challenge cyclists in the way that I do. it's actually for one simple reason, to keep them safe.👍 Thanks a lot for your comments as they are much appreciated.👊

@_Unforeseen_

5 ай бұрын

​​@@ashley_nealApologies, i think i read your comment in the wrong tone. Really Good educational video, even with the cycling twitter rants 😏

@ashley_neal

5 ай бұрын

Never an issue! Thanks for your support 👊

The entire theory test is a waste of time in my opinion. It’s a mix of both common sense and the illogical. The multiple choice section is 80/90% common sense (teaches very little), whilst the hazard perception test baffled me, as it actively punishes you for clicking ‘too early’ even when seeing a hazard ahead. There’s nothing I discovered from the theory test that I hadn’t already learned from driving lessons (road signs, how to handle situations etc).

Do you seriously think that is a good idea, sorry block me if you want but that a down right stupid idea covering up the speedo for your students. How bloody irresponsible !! I understand the point you are making in that if the speed limit is 30mph doesn't mean you have to drive at that speed, but you need to know what speed you are doing. I live in Wales with the new 20mph limit on a lot of roads, it is quite easy to go over that so you need to keep checking not have to take a cloth off. Let's see if I am blocked, comment removed or if you can justify you're remarks/actions by replying.

@ashley_neal

4 ай бұрын

I don't block people unless they're abusive and your comment is good and valid. Let's answer it like this then, what tells you what speed to go your speedo or the road out in front of you? I know what you do! You're more interested in not breaking the speed limit rather than being at a speed that suits your surroundings. A common mistake for many people. Let's see whether you take this comment in the way that it's meant or whether you get offended.

@ashley_neal

4 ай бұрын

I'm a little disappointed you haven't replied.

@ashley_neal

4 ай бұрын

Still nothing?

@carolinedurnell5650

4 ай бұрын

@@ashley_neal I will reply shortly thanks for replying not blocking

stop coughing mate