"... he already decided to overtake." Ok, what was he dr-... "He was driving a BMW 330." There it is.

@acelectricalsecurity

2 жыл бұрын

You know what, my first thought was which German car was he driving 😂

@andyharpist2938

Жыл бұрын

My first thought was his name Nathan. So he was probably young.

"Nathan was driving a BMW 330 diesel..." ... ... ... and then it all made sense.

@richinleam

3 жыл бұрын

Had to be either a BMW or an Audi didn't it. Rules of the road don't apply.

@ferventheat

3 жыл бұрын

As a non-Mercedes driver, I feel offended by this comment.

@derekheeps1244

3 жыл бұрын

only to you

@fredmercury1314

3 жыл бұрын

@@richinleam Or a VW Passat.

@dlevi67

3 жыл бұрын

"... He's only been driving a short period of time." and it makes even more sense.

As a tractor driver myself, I can guarantee there was no way that tractor driver saw that car coming at that speed. With a machine on the back such as that drill, rear visibility is very limited. One of my biggest fears, a car overtaking when you're turning right.

@marklittler784

3 жыл бұрын

Most seem to back turn signals up with hand signals as well but mirrors should be fitted so as to see whats behind even nowadays a camera, the tractor should of seen him and waved him past.

@regmemer9198

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry mate, all the hand-wringing car drivers on this channel will still find a way to put all the blame of the tractor. Cf. Mark C Littler

@amcv5407

3 жыл бұрын

All I hear from the video is poor Nathan, poor Nathan, poor Nathan, look at how the tractor driver could have saved Nathan 🙄 ridiculous, Nathan could have killed someone driving like that

@RushfanUK

3 жыл бұрын

@@marklittler784 Utter nonsense, the tractor driver in all probability checked his mirror and didn't see any vehicle behind him at that point considering how fast Nathan was driving, at 63 miles per hour he is covering 92.4 feet in a second, as soon as he saw that tractor he should have been braking not continuing at speed, his choice to go for an overtake was just appalling judgement. If the police have access to this video then I would think that he would be prosecuted for at least DWDCAA or even Dangerous Driving, he is extremely lucky that he didn't kill himself or his passenger.

@MarcoTheGreat2008

3 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to tell me that at 1:03-1:05 the car isn't in full view of the tractor's mirrors? The bend allowed full visibility of traffic to the rear. He either wasn't looking or decided just to turn anyway.

I've had a full licence for 40 years and you never stop learning

@melgrant7404

3 жыл бұрын

Correct

@johnflavin1602

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly or ride a motorcycle for a while and you'll learn a lot. Never overtake if you even think there's a junction immediately ahead. So many crashes occur at junctions/turn offs. Learned this lesson a long time ago. Overtook a couple of cars on a straight road but didn't see the turnoff. Only when I was back on my own side of the road did I spot that one of the cars I overtook had his indicator on while I overtook him and was intending to turn right. I sighed with relief and learned not to do it ever again. I've been driving for about 30 years at this stage but as a driver you are always learning. Expect the unexpected and expect people to do selfish and stupid things, that way you can avoid most crashes.

@jadedshade

2 жыл бұрын

Totally! Things change too, so anyone with a licence should have a willingness to learn more.

@vibez_kru01

2 жыл бұрын

Best way to be. 👌🏾 It’s the people who think they know it all who tend to be the most reckless.

@josieriley9334

2 жыл бұрын

At 70 years old, it fell to me to teach 6 grandkids how to drive. Like every 70 year old driver, I knew that my driving skills were way above average!!!………but, just in case, as a formality, I picked the latest edition of the Highway Code. As I read it, it came as a shock to me to realize how out of date I was, and how much room for improvement existed……it truly was a wake up call…….long story short…..the first kid failed because I taught him to drive too cautiously, but the next 5 passed first time. For me, now 84, for the last 10 years I have been busted my arse to get better, and I am looking to take a driver evaluation lesson in the near future.

'his insurance premiums have gone through the roof... just like the tractor's plough did' Savage, Ashley! Glad both were okay, that was a nasty collision

@sebrickard7356

Жыл бұрын

😂

@whitesapphire5865

Жыл бұрын

There wasn't even a plough on that tractor!

ALWAYS slow down when you see a tractor. He had plenty of time to slow down. Just to decide to overtake it as soon as you see it is very dangerous. A stupid decision that could have costed hos life

@Zulisian

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't die did you even listen to the video? The man is lucky to survive for sure and it was his fault but, my god I bet he learnt from it and he should be applauded for sharing as it wakes up the other idiots that drive like he does.

@supergeekjay

3 жыл бұрын

"ALWAYS slow down when you see a tractor". AND an HGV! Too many people try overtaking them when they're turning right. The trailer back end swings into your lane and WILL take your side out, at the very least. Pivot points, people. Learn them!

@markchip1

3 жыл бұрын

But kudos to Nathan for acknowledging his error and sending it in so that others could learn from his mistake!

@krashd

2 жыл бұрын

No need to call his passenger a ho :/

@momentumstocks3493

2 жыл бұрын

So he was doing 65MPH+ on that road. IDIOT.

Too many impatient people like this! Refuse to brake for anything as it might delay them by 20 seconds. Loads of time to stop there

@derekheeps1244

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is more like lack of experience ; although my daughter has been driving almost 10 years , she has little experience of going further than down to the shops . Having taken her out on longer drives since she recently got a newer car , I found myself having to teach her all over again about separation distances , particularly in the wet , slowing and braking earlier , and to look further ahead and recognise hazards ; it was quite unsettling at first because she just wasn't appreciating things that , to my eyes , were glaringly obvious , and I had to spend time building her confidence behind the wheel , pointing things out one by one in a positive way , rather than picking her driving to pieces and putting her off .

@georgecromar4094

2 жыл бұрын

Familiarity probably, done the same thing loads of times and that day the circumstances changed. We've all been guilty of something similar in our lives...

I am glad Nathan is ok, but based on this video if he has been driving like that since passing his test, it was only a matter of time before he was involved in a serious accident.

@momentumstocks3493

2 жыл бұрын

Typical racer boy. WHY is he driving a powerful BMW? Present from mummy and daddy? I hope he learned his lesson. But somehow i doubt it

“Already decided to overtake” nailed it.

@grahvis

3 жыл бұрын

A decision made far too early.

@georgeemerald4389

3 жыл бұрын

Not really that bad. The tractor could've easily been going a top speed of 20 mph.

@locojambo

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgeemerald4389 overtaking on solid white lines at a junction? Not a very good driver are you.

@georgeemerald4389

3 жыл бұрын

@@locojambo Where did you see the junction? And the legality of it doesn't affect the safety of it, he could see far enough ahead to overtake. If it were a bike you'd have no problem, you wouldn't wait for a passing zone, would you?

@locojambo

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgeemerald4389 funny you should say that. My old pal overtook a bus, on his motorbike, on broken white lines near a junction. A car came out the junction and killed him. He knew the road. You should assume with solid white lines there is a good reason not to be on the other side of it.

To be honest if Ashley hadn't mentioned it i would never gess he was going for the overtake, the solid lines, the bend on the road, the massive object slowly moving in front of me just shouted slow down. When i first saw the clip i thought he was on his phone. Scary for someone on the passenger seat with no control over the situation. Ps: well done for sending the clip, it's easy to forget how a single moment of distraction can cause a serious accident, clips like these remind me that cars are meant to go from A to B and live to fight another day.

@thegrandmuftiofwakanda

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@JohnM...

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't distracted he was driving like a toolbag.

@BunninDemTrees

Жыл бұрын

You can see he went for the overtake lol

@illegalopinions4082

10 ай бұрын

He didn't slow down and was already positioning himself on the right hand side of the lane. If he wasn't going for an overtake he was going to commit sudoku.

Everything has alarm bells ringing for me: the first turn to the left, a second left turn; both say ease off with foot over the brake pedal at least. Then a large tractor. Easily time to slow down steadily to match it's speed with a safe stopping distance. Yes, it looks clear on the right, but without assessing, there is no way to be sure about turn off points, or other potential hazards, and gauge tractor speed and intentions. And the solid white line is screaming danger alone. Still, very glad all involved still have their health, and that this was sent in to help prevent similar issues, or much worse.

@JanZamani

3 жыл бұрын

Right, I feel like I would instinctively slow down for a blind corner to get some time to react. Also when you realise you're approaching the tractor at a fast pace (i.e. it's stationary), you'd slow down significantly and give yourself time to properly assess if you want to go for the overtake. I think it's about giving yourself as much extra time to react as possible. But then again only he knows his exact situation, but it's good we can all learn to be careful and be safer drivers.

@momentumstocks3493

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine he overtook and some car pulled out from a road in the right? Head on and deaths! He's a prick!

@mikedavis6884

2 жыл бұрын

@@momentumstocks3493 I don't think I'd have the nerve to share some of the poor decisions I've made (and I have made some poor driving decisions in my time), I'd say he's the exact opposite of a prick-he's a guy who's put his driving up to be criticised in an effort to encourage others to think about what they do. I don't salute the driving, but the learning from experience is to be respected.

@livewire1957239

2 жыл бұрын

Have to agree. He’ll have to live with the consequences of higher insurance premiums and I think that’s more than fair- the way he drove was irresponsible. And perhaps his choice of car says something about his mindset as well- speeding in a BMW as a way to prove himself? Glad he sent this in though so that hopefully others can be prevented from making a similar mistake.

@initialyze

2 жыл бұрын

When I learned to drive (30 years ago) me and my mates first car was a small, underpowered old hatchback. My second car was a slightly bigger underpowered old hatchback. Why do I see so many kids driving nearly new, large, high powered cars these days? Couple lads on my estate in their very early 20s in AMG Mercs, loads of BMW 3 series hacking about. Makes you wonder if we should be putting some limitations on new and younger drivers like they do in NZ. Glad Nathan & Co were OK and hopefully learned from the experience, but it wouldn't be advisable to expect everyone to learn this way.

He was a very lucky lad glad everyone was ok.

@samuelholmes3696

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, lucky indeed!

What amazed me was how short the clip was. 11 seconds. When you're moving at 60 mph, you are traveling at ~27 metres per second. That's fast. It just goes to show how quickly incidents like this can happen - be it a short lapse in judgement, or whatever.

@paulcollyer801

3 жыл бұрын

A standard articulated truck is about 16.7m to put that in perspective

@TheTonyspoons

3 жыл бұрын

Bet the clip was short because there was dubious driving beforehand that the driver didn't want to expose as well

@elobiretv

2 жыл бұрын

I had a crash at 60mph into the side of another car that pulled out of a side road. I was probably less than 30m away when they pulled out and I can remember by the time I actually hit the brake I was right on top of them.

Given the speed, the bend, and the traffic in the opposite direction, I think the tractor didn't have much of an opportunity to spot the very fast car coming up from behind. I don't think there's much they could've done to prevent the accident. This is a really good learning point for all of us. Speed was the crucial factor, in my opinion.

@RushfanUK

3 жыл бұрын

The drivers decision making is the crucial factor, he had time to brake when he saw the tractor but choose to continue at speed.

@jamiereid9322

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with the tractor assessment, not with the speed. Doing 60-65mph like he was doing on a road like that is fine. The fact he was impatient and thought he could overtake because he couldn't be bothered to slow down was what nearly killed him.

@BuyOneGetOneFree

3 жыл бұрын

Tractor driver should have had his indicator on as soon as he turned the blind bend. The number of times I have seen tractors manoeuvre without even bothering to signal is frightening. See a tractor... start braking... simple.

@ric4397

3 жыл бұрын

Think about how late the cammer started moving to the other lane too. It could easily have confused the tractor driver, thinking he was going to wait behind rather than overtake, especially if the tractor driver misjudged the cammer's speed.

@davidcurry4433

3 жыл бұрын

@@BuyOneGetOneFree The tractor drivers indicators are on, what makes you think they weren't on..

Ahh, the tractor let's get passed it asap mindset. Tractors tend to do short trips on roads to reach next field and turn off. Driving experience teaches us this. So as well as tractors being slow, expect a turn also. Needles to say but that was a costly error by the driver in so many ways.

Its not the "I have priority" but the fact that the BMW was driven so poorly in the first place. First point is there is a tractor ahead on a slight bend to the right, this means you cannot see around that corner to start with, so no idea what is beyond that point to do anything safely. Second is that its a tractor, its slow and has poor visability behind, slow down to start with. Third, the solid hatch markings are a no overtaking area and are there for a reason (junction etc), the overtaking area is just where the impact is with the tractor. Overall, a very lucky lad and also very lucky not to be prosecuted by the police. I live on a road where there are trucks turning into a quarry as well as tractors amd other agricultural vehicles used by the farmer, the amount of poor driving and riding on this road is beyond belief I will tell you now that the HGV's with a full load of stone will not stop for a car or bike doing something stupid (I've even had it with a car overtaking 8 or 9 others to the brow of a hill just a mile up the road, I had to come to a complete stop and the idiot overtaking ended up back where they started). I think the saying "look before you leap" sums it up.

@desubtilizer

3 жыл бұрын

BMW driven poorly - That is normal, lol

@suttoncoldfield9318

3 жыл бұрын

There's a tractor on a country road - well who'd have thought that woukd happen

@daleskidmore1685

3 жыл бұрын

The tractor is slow, so him slowing down before making the decision to overtake would have negligible effect on his journey time.

@KingslayerSrb

3 жыл бұрын

@@desubtilizer honestly the car probably saved his life, or was a contributing factor. Smaller car might have gone completely squashed

Well done Nathan for sending in this clip. No matter how long you have been driving this is a valuable lesson for us all.

He was extremely lucky! I was horrified by this clip. A total lack of awareness and planning is evident and doing just over 60mph on a bend is crazy. But on another note, I'm just glad that both himself and his passenger were OK.

At 1:08 when I saw that blade-thing coming towards me I actually let out a yelp! I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been for the people in the car! Amazing that they weren't seriously injured. Wow.

@camcab147

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those tractors are nasty looking things with all the blades. I see them a lot round here.

@MohammedFahimUddin1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@camcab147 same if I see tractors or other slow moving vehicles ahead of me I always slow down and overtake when it's safe to do so

@Ethanolamine

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing but shouted "JESUS!" instead

@AMVactivists

3 жыл бұрын

I had a rock hit my windscreen while doing 70mph (fine for conditions and rd) scared the living shit out of me. Saw it fly up at me and could do anything but yelp and duck. Luckily windscreens are strong and it was just a chip (autoglass actually managed to repair it which surprised me) but it probably would have taken a motorbike out

@JohnSapato

3 жыл бұрын

That's horrible, because it goes straight through the windshield as supposed to hitting the bumper and absorbing the impact. This could've easily been a very gruesome crash. I'm glad he survived to tell the tale. 😕

Here's what I don't understand about the clip: - He didn't slow to go into the turn - I saw the tractor a good 5 seconds before impact, he didn't even slow down when it came into view - He or his friend only warned the other with a few seconds to go Either his instincts are lightening quick and he decided to overtake instantly or he wasn't properly looking and was on autopilot

@momentumstocks3493

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't even an incident HAD he not been doing 65MPH in the first place....BOY RACER. I hope is insurance is so high he can only ride a bike for the next 10 years! Idiots like this should not be on our roads!

@Rover200Power

2 жыл бұрын

A young inexperienced driver with a BMW 330d, he got over excited and thought he could just overtake everything without thinking about it too much.

@copperfield3629

2 жыл бұрын

Seemed to me that he probably knows the road and thought "I don't want to be stuck behind that or have to slow down, I can carry my speed and nip past when the solid white line stops". He could "see" himself breezing past and continuing on at his current speed - despite the facts that TRACTOR and FARM. Scary to see the state of the car afterwards - I note there was an "Evidence" envelope on the driver's seat when we saw the state of the BMW, was any action taken as a result of this collision? Any chance of an update please @Ashley Neal?

I think that's a very classic passed test a few months/couple of years ago, built up more confidence than knowledge/awareness kind of move. I know I got more dangerous in that period too, although I don't think I'd have ever made this move. This was a gamble with his life for sure.

@robinthebobin6537

2 жыл бұрын

On a side note, I've always wondered about that concept in general i.e: the "inexperienced but confident" bit is always the most dangerous. For me, when I was a kid, it was bike riding. I was very cautious at first because I was terrified of falling off, yet I actually fell off when I had built up a bit of confidence, but my skill level wasnt up there yet. I'm just over 1 year into driving now myself and I'm definitely a lot more confident about a lot of things than when I started. However I know full well that my skill and experience don't yet match my confidence. So for that reason, I try to be as cautious as possible, because I know that these years are probably the most likely ones to have a car accident that is 100% my fault (e.g the classic flipping a car into a ditch which I know a few people my age have done)

I'm guessing that Nathan had been driving aggressively for a little while. Most of the time you will get away with the sort of maneuver that he was attempting. That can lull you into a false sense of security.

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the time they get away with it because the poor sap they're bullying on the road realises they have a death wish and lets them pass for fear of being involved in the inevitable accident they're going to cause. If this kid had any real world experience, he would have known that the tractor driver couldn't even see him.

@christopheroliver8762

2 жыл бұрын

@@mydogeatspuke well Nathan has that experience now, I guess.

@mydogeatspuke

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 yes, now that Nathan has done a thing, he has experience of that thing. What a very meaningful contribution to a discussion that ended at least a year ago. I can't imagine how much time and careful thought it took for you to reach such a deep conclusion, and to share it with us all is truly a blessing.

@christopheroliver8762

2 жыл бұрын

@@mydogeatspuke I guess you never had the life lesson about not being an arsehole to random strangers. Or maybe you did, which is why you do it online 🤔

@mydogeatspuke

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 oh no, are you going to cyber punch me? I am shaking.

Plenty of time to slow before the tractor.....

@tjfSIM

3 жыл бұрын

Yep - unfortunately as Ashley said, he'd already decided to overtake as soon as he saw the tractor, which is why he didn't slow down. Very poor decision, thank goodness he survived to learn from it.

@marklittler784

3 жыл бұрын

You also get some stupid speed limits that are far too high or low for a given location.

@middler5

3 жыл бұрын

@@marklittler784 Doesnt matter how high it is. Up to the driver to judge how fast any particular stretch should be driven. They are qualified drivers after all.

@dominicfindlay

3 жыл бұрын

@@middler5 yeah if they put a max speed 40 MPH or something, people just ignore it anyway.

@dominicfindlay

3 жыл бұрын

Just for the corner. And if they a regular, they will go faster each time as nothing happened the previous.

No stereotyping here. There are, imo, three factors that caused this..... Nathan was driving too fast for the conditions and, unfortunately, didn't have the experience to deal with the situation. The third factor is almost certainly the very limited visibility that this tractor/trailer unit had and may well not have seen the cammer (ok.... 4 factors then). Ashley basically covered everything that needed to be said. For what it may be worth I will show respect to Nathan for sharing this as the Internet can be very cruel. Huge thanks to Ashley for the analysis and for admitting to your own error. Nathan - that was too close a call for comfort..... at least you survived this time. Further recriminations would be pointless.... enough said there. Stay safe everyone 👍.

@andyowens5494

3 жыл бұрын

James Stewart I dont think power was contributory in this case. The fact that it was a 3 series may have helped save his life too - thats a heavy car, because there is a lot of metal in the right places to make it strong. A typical "starter" car could still have got to 62 mph, but might not have been as strong with this impact. This one's all down to inexperience and lack of observation. At least Nathan is aware of this channel, so probably continuing to learn; hopefully he wont do anything like this again :).

@David-sw2fn

3 жыл бұрын

The only point of disagreement for me here is the issue of inexperience. These video incidents fall broadly into two categories. The first is where misjudgements and mistakes combine with other circumstances to produce an accident. The second is where the operator is so reckless and negligent that the risks of an incident become significantly raised. This accident clearly falls into the second category. I’m a little concerned people are dismissing it as a misjudgement. If you are driving at 60mph (++ here), you need a basic degree of competence and judgement and I’m sorry to say I didn’t see either. I’m not trying to be harsh, but this driving was reckless and awful. Ideally the authorities should sanction him and require further training before he is allowed to drive again. Unfortunately , that is unlikely as we have created a road culture that tolerates people risking lives in this way. I can only hope that the driver fundamentally alters his approach to driving as a result of this.

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

@@David-sw2fn Inexperience can make people reckless though. Just passed his test, fancy car, open roads. Terrifying use of speed and acceleration, complete disregard for other road users. He definitely didn't drive like this on his test, otherwise he would have failed. So he knows what he's doing is wrong, he just doesn't care. If you've never had a close call or really taken time to understand why the roads have certain rules, it can be easy to act cocky and overconfident. He did misjudge the situation, and again it calls into question how exactly he managed to pass his test, but not because of an innocent mistake. It was brazen and selfish and very, very dangerous. Some people need this kind of wake up call to realise they don't know everything. Thankfully it wasn't a fatal mistake.

@David-sw2fn

3 жыл бұрын

mydogeatspuke I don’t disagree. It’s just a shame some people lack the imagination to figure these things out before they kill, or nearly kill, themselves and others.

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

@@David-sw2fn natural selection will always exist. Collateral damage is sadly sometimes unavoidable, but most people don't care about anyone outside their circle anyway, and others are completely oblivious to everyone else until they inconvenience them. As a species, we are awful. Such is life!

Nathan and his passenger were very lucky looking at the damage to the car. I've learned over a number of years of driving rural roads in different countries to be extra cautious of slow-moving vehicles. I've seen farmers make a sudden turn without looking or indicating the change of direction.

@dgphi

3 жыл бұрын

Slow moving vehicles in the city can be bad too. Often the driver is looking for a street or a house or something, and may turn suddenly without warning.

@johnflavin1602

3 жыл бұрын

catching up with a tractor on a dual carriageway is even worse. Most of them nowadays have flashing orange lights so you see them from a distance but I've seen a few near misses where cars suddenly catch up with a tractor and they get caught off guard. The huge difference in speeds make it very dangerous. You need to read the road ahead and judge the speed the vehicle in the distance ahead of you is going. If I see a vehicle up ahead going unusually slow I think "is that a bloody tractor on the dual carriageway?".

Just passed my driving test this morning - nice light-hearted video to watch as a treat! And the clip is where I'm from!

@DrWhosmate

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Ross, nice to see you are still looking to learn more after the event. :)

@adg2396

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats. Easy way to avoid situations like this is to slow down and don't be a twat, no need to worry.

@rossmurison

3 жыл бұрын

​@aircrash tupolov There's no doubt to me that poor driving standards were the culprit here, everything from the BMW Driver's initial speed to the timing of the tractor's indicators as Ashley pointed out. The Fife section of the A92 really isn't a great road however and many accidents do happen, a quick google search reveals this unfortunately. Thankfully the Dundee to Arbroath section was upgraded to Dual carriageway around 15 years ago as it was just as bad if not even worse.

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

@aircrash tupolov They expect you to know road markings though. That's why you do the written exam before you're allowed to do the driving exam. Sadly some people just treat it like nonsense they have to remember for the half hour they're in the room taking the test and then forget it all after.

@mydogeatspuke

2 жыл бұрын

@Nicolla Hannah Butterfield Well yeah. I did a driving test just like everyone else. But I was replying to someone who said to go learn how to read the paint on the road. Which you already are expected to know before you can take the practical test. Fascinating brag though, I'm sure it was relevant somewhere in your imagination 🤪

After leaving it 12 hours after watching, I have formed the following opinion (right or wrong). When my boy was being taught to drive, (about 7 years ago) the emphasis seemed to be that you must drive at the speed limit whenever possible! I was quite shocked at this as it was apparent that this rhetoric was pushing any hazard perception to the back of the mind and placing more empathise on getting to your destination as quickly as possible. you can certainly see this mindset in Nathans driving! I also see this 'type' of driving in alot of younger, new drivers. Just because its a 60 mph road, its not always appropriate to do the speed limit (obviously). My boy always told me that "I never speed" after I'd bollocked him a few times and told him to slow down. About 6 months after those conversations, he got done by a camera van doing 51mph in a 30 limit!! He learnt the hard way in the end but atleast it wasn't a crash.

@andyharpist2938

Жыл бұрын

the mindset of self importance is ingrained in the young today. A kid hit me from behind last month creeping onto a roundabout behind me. "I was here first" he cried. "I've never had an accident ...in all my three months of driving!"

The greatest luxury you can have as a driver is called "time" and you can give yourself this by identifying hazards and slowing down to give yourself options and time to make that decision without taking anything for granted. I applaud the courage to put this video up for debate because going forward lack of ego will keep you safe.

I can guarantee that every one of us, myself included, has made an error of judgement whilst driving, that could have resulted in such an accident. Well done to Nathan for sharing this clip so that somebody, somewhere might learn from it. Thanks to Ashley for the analysis of this clip. Since watching the Channel, I personally have benefited from the lessons shown, as I’m more apt to analyze my own driving and adjust accordingly.

@miquelrodriguez8507

Жыл бұрын

While that might be true, idk if trying to overtake a tractor going 60mph around a curve, and through solid lines can be considered "error of judgment".. i mean, yeah, all dangerous driving can be considered an error of judgment, but not all errors of judgement involve dangerous driving. This one did for sure though.

Nice to see you standing up for a change, lovely calm delivery of the information on an important but frightening video. 👍

Due to an mot service thing my daughter took me to work. The rural road is marked at 60mph. I always do it at 30 because .... it’s rural, lots of walkers, dogs, cyclists, road bends, horses and tractors. I asked her to slow down, she refused because it said she could do 60. The next corner we went round was a very very close miss with a pack of cyclists. My daughter stuck to 30 after that!!

Watch the two cars at the end, both go over the centre line on the bend 😳 Your a lucky fella, Nathan.

Flip me that's a rough one. Glad everyone was able to walk away from it

@reqprofit9642

3 жыл бұрын

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That road is my commute to university! I thought I recognised it! First of all, it is notorious for tractors and slow vehicles. It connect Dundee to east central Fife and is really in need of an upgrade. If anything some overtaking sections would be good which would be easy on a straight bit of road not far from where this crash took place which would stop so many dangerous overtakes from happening. Secondly, this happened in the village of Kilmany. It’s a 60mph limit but drivers are encouraged to reduce their speed on approach. This driver obviously didn’t pay heed to the warning. I sometimes take a much longer drive home at night via the M90 motorway because this road is a total nightmare at rush hour! Anyway, I totally commend Nathan for putting this out there as that takes bravery! I hope this encourages him to drive more responsibly in the future!

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

I would probably, given the junctions and residences off the road drop the legal limit to 50mph, and consider changing the broken line to a solid up to the driveway on the right.

@raithrover1976

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's a road I'm familiar with too; a dangerous mix of tractors, HGVs, elderly drivers and people who drive like Nathan. Throw in all the junctions and property accesses and you have a recipe for disaster. Incidentally, the plans to upgrade this to a good quality dual carriageway were shelved years ago (a large chunk of the budget was spent dualling the Dundee to Arbroath road following a spate of fatalities on that stretch) and have effectively been watered down to two new roundabouts being built near Ladybank.

As a tractor driver, I would like to confirm that the view out of the central mirror is extremely limited when an implement is on the back. When driving, I'm always checking my L and R mirrors especially on straighter patches of road, as I know that people are likely to overtake. However, I would like to point out that, even if the tractor driver had spotted him, with a large, heavy implement on the back, even if he'd swerved, there would have still be a serious collision, due to the speed of the car. There's a reason why double white lines exist, this serves as a reminder to ALL road users that speed is KEY as well as observation, which, for both users could've been improved. So glad that the car driver came out the other side safe and well.

It seems to clear to me,inexperience and high power,recipe for disaster.i really hope some lessons have been learned.I see this everyday when at work.

New driver and powerful car - a combination fraught with risk!! At least he was prepared for it just before impact, whereas the tractor driver must have got one hell of a shock with no warning!!

Glad everyone was unharmed. This video did infuriate me though. I've been waiting 8 months to sit my driving test due to the COVID backlog here in Ireland. To see 'qualiifed' drivers like this on the roads, speeding, poor observation, potentially distracted by their phones while I can't even sit my driving test is very frustrating. I appreciate mistakes can happen and I'm so glad no one was hurt but people really do need to be more careful.

@gooshygooshywoowoo

3 жыл бұрын

Also Ashley, I'm finding all your videos so helpful in the run-up to my test - thank you.

Similar thing happened to me, but it was less obvious for me. In a country where we drive on the right side. I was riding a motorcycle way to fast, catching up to a tractor with a long trailer. I was placeing myself in the left lane to pass, no other vehicles on the road. Speed limit was 70 km/h and i was probably going 140-160.. tractor decided to make a right turn into a small gravel road (onto a field). But doing so he went out in the left lane completly blocking the whole road... in 2-3 seconds it took for me to catch up it felt like life went in slowmotion... life passed infront of my eyes so to say... i had to decide if i wanted to go out crash out on the field going through a barbed wire fence and probably ditch or use the back brake to lay the motorcykle down on the road trying to survive by sliding on the road.. i decided to pass on the very right side close to that road where tractor was entering... i passed 50cm from the tractor front tires moving towards me and the exit... that was 20 years ago and i still remember that moment as it was yesterday.... i was very lucky i was not killed that day... had the tractor went a tiny bit faster or me a bit slower the whole road would have been blocked and i would be dead..... that was an learning experience for life...

@reqprofit9642

3 жыл бұрын

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@ShaimingLong

3 жыл бұрын

It is sad that it takes an accident or a very near miss for most people to treat road safety seriously. I don't think it matters what part of it you are, whether you're a driver, passenger or witness. Once you've felt enough of a shock, you no longer feel like invincible royalty on the road. Only took being a passenger when a kid ran out into the road in front of us for me to stop enjoying all thrill ride drives in my youth. It scares me how I used to take even wearing a seatbelt for granted and frequently forgot to put it on.

One thing I noticed, where Ashly stood to give this presentation, the number of cars that drifted over the double white line, as they rounded the corner !!!!

@davidrobins1021

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, exactly, I noticed that as well. Looks like an accident waiting to happen.

@thromboid

3 жыл бұрын

Both there and in the cam clip, you see the problem with treating the speed limit as some sort of target speed, rather than looking at the road and traffic and adapting. We so easily slip into bad habits and sloppiness once the rigours of learning and testing are past.

Damn, he's lucky to get out of that one alive. His late reaction times are really scary though, with that car he could have been travelling 20mph more and still stopped in time had he reacted properly. Speed wasn't really the issue here, his hazard perception was. I really hope he's improved his emergency braking since then.

@itsnotforourconvenience2990

4 күн бұрын

Yes, but I wonder if it's the case of "I've got the power, I can get round it"!

7:35 cant help but notice the two cars speeding around the corner - if I was coming the other way in my artic for my job that'd be a hell of a nasty accident. People really do need to take more care on country roads and single carriageways in general

@jamescollins8397

2 жыл бұрын

... & both of them crossing the double line on a blind corner!

Wow. This young man, his friends & the road users around them, plus their families and friends are lucky that he didn't kill himself or anyone else before this happened. It's a hard way to learn the lesson, but hopefully he will now think about all the people he could affect if he continues to drive in this way. The fact that he has sent the video to Ash for analysis is a sign that he has changed his mindset. I think it should be mandatory on the theory test prep for candidates to watch and analyse clips like this, have their analysis assessed and then to see the aftermath of accidents caused by this sort of thoughtless & dangerous driving with narrative from police, professionals like Ashley and the people left behind. In this case, hopefully Nathan will now know that his pride and joy is not his shiny car, but his friends and family. Thanks Nathan and Ashley for continuing my driving education after 40 years of driving a car. Always learning.

@mikeh2006

Жыл бұрын

It's difficult to say what Nathan's mindset would be. But inexperience is a key factor here. Ashley said he had only been driving a short while prior to the accident. I can't comment on what his typical standard of driving would be as we don't know. Even so, he learnt the hard way. I drive a HGV and have done for 9 years now. I get up to the speed limit if safe, but so many people of all ages want to overtake the truck even if I'm doing the speed limit, and they will take risks to do so. Sometimes they will then slow down a bit once they've overtaken. It's quite common.

Defensive driving ? Always look as far ahead as possible so you have time to react to anything in front of you. Obviously he was not looking ahead. Needs a retest and a ban.

@Allangulon

3 жыл бұрын

In Australia 1982 I ran into a car that cut me off whist riding a moped at 30 kph. I lost my license for a year and had to resit. A lack of consequence is responsible for most of these accidents!

As he goes into the blind corner that should've been reason enough to let off or slow down a bit. Soon as the tractor comes in to view he'd have been prepared to stop. Every time I see these crash clips, people just seem to never see ahead.

@deeznoots6241

3 жыл бұрын

Sassy yeah he should have lifted through the corner and then started to brake as he approached the tractor since even if it was going straight instead of turning he was still going too fast.

@cjmillsnun

3 жыл бұрын

This is the problem, people don't look beyond the end of their bonnet. Always be prepared to stop in the distance you can see to be clear.

@WerdnaLiten

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjmillsnun Limit points don't seem to be a thing for a lot of people; as soon as you lose the view, cut the speed....

I watch loads of driving compilations and it’s rare I don’t see the issue of the clip before it happens. I’ve also frequently comment that Right of Way does Not mean no accident, so better to give up that right than your car.

I live in Scotland and I can say a lot of drivers drive like the cammer here on these roads, for me cammwr is 100% at fault, for a tractor it would be very hard to see that car aproaching, what i would like to know ashley when he sent this to u, did he think he was at fault or did he blame the tractor?

@middler5

3 жыл бұрын

He said he was brave sending it in so i presume he sent it to help others learn.

@BlueAxeRacer

3 жыл бұрын

Tractor could have just as easily checked his mirror again, or really should have fitted extended mirrors and indicator to be aware of what's coming behind.

@theripper820

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlueAxeRacer yeah but car could of also easily slowed down, stop making yourself look like a idiot

@BlueAxeRacer

3 жыл бұрын

@@theripper820 First of all it's could have, so if anything you're the one who sounds like an idiot. Second, our cammer has every right to be where he is considering he is alongside the trailer and on the outside. He could have backed off but he didn't have to.

@theripper820

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlueAxeRacer well, enjoy your crashes, im sure u will have loads. I dont think u should be approaching a tractor at 60mph, if there was a car coming other way, he would of had to slam his brakes on, ik its very hard for people like u to read the road ahead, then u will always blame someone else except yourself that is ehy u will never learn, hence why ashley said it was brave for him to send this in. Learn how to drive little boy.

A very powerful message, thanks for sharing Ashley and I hope Nathan is fully recovered.

My goodness! How terrifying! I have seen so many pictures of the aftermath of people driving under the back of trucks etc it’s terrifying to see an actual video of it.

All kudos to Natan for sending you the clip. Two lessons I hope he has learnt. 1. Read the road further ahead. 2. Slow down when you see a tractor or hgv ahead near junctions.

Simply inexperience, given away by the choices made way before the overtake attempt (positioning to the centre of the road on the right hand bend). Nathan, hopefully you'll read these - don't take the negative comments to heart, and please treat this as the learning experience it was. Thank you for sharing. Just so happens I went for a bimble in the Dales yesterday and came across a tractor, with two cars behind it, lots of paint on the road, signs at the side, and a couple of turnings. I can be heard on camera (no-one else in earshot, talking to myself) "looking for an overtake on vehicles ahead, conscious I'm taking the 2nd turning on the right, maybe 800m to my turning, not worth the hassle, I bet the tractor takes the same route as me." Sure enough, he did, we both turned right, then there was a right bend followed by a long clear straight - my 120bhp bike easily breezed past the tractor. When you have power to get up & go faster than other vehicles, there's no sense in carrying your speed through hazards.

My goodness, that is a nasty one. Thanks both for sharing and nicely done with the 'discretion advised' line Ashley - well warranted. If it looks scary to us on a screen imagine what it must have been like to actually experience it! Nathan owes his life to the laminated windscreen - one of the most incredible and underrated safety advances in modern cars. Imagine if those shards of glass hadn't been held in place by the laminate material, what absolute carnage there could have been. We can all learn a lesson from this about excess speed and being able to stop within the distance we can see is clear. In fact I'm going to review some footage of an overtake I did, I thought safely and appropriately a few years ago, to see if anything about what I did was risky. I'll see it in a new light. Nathan - I see from the date this is very recent and I'm glad you and your passenger are ok. I wish you both well.

I hope Nathan has learnt a lesson from this. Inexperience + speed sometimes goes horribly wrong. Far too fast for a start. 50mph would of been better, gives time to react to dangers. It's surprising how many drivers don't look far enough in front and plan what may happen,they just go hell for leather into a situation and then it's too late. Also no fault on the tractor driver, I'm sure he/she is fully aware of others driving at speed on this or similar roads. The tractor drivers vision maybe obscured due to the attachment. I don't believe the tractor driver would of seen the car catching up to him so quickly.The onus is down to the car driver in this clip because he was going far too fast,had plenty of time to slow as the tractor came into view but was even going to do an overtake on a sold white line. If you're not sure what the vehicle in front is going to do, simply back off let them do the manoeuvre and then crack on.

I am amazed that an inexperienced driver was allowed to be insured on such a powerful vehicle.

@Hirotoro4692

6 ай бұрын

The fact his car is "powerful" is absolutely irrelevant in this clip. He's doing 63 mph, even my old 1.0 corsa could easily reach that speed (went just above 100 if you floored it). It could happen to any vehicle capable of motorway speeds, which is almost all of them.

Thank you for sharing this video. This is a good reminder of how fast danger can appear. Just taking your eyes off the road to change the air-con at the wrong time, for just 2 seconds, can be of great consequence. 60mph is still about 17m per second. A tilt of just 3° over 3 seconds at 60mph would already mean you've drifted off by 2.7m meaning you're more than halfway off your lane. Unfortunate judgement put him in harm's way but his reflexes saved him but had this been complacency in staying alert his reflexes would most likely not have been enough to save him and the results would have been grim. I'm glad they are doing ok and that they submitted this clip. I hope loads of people will watch this and see how quickly things can change from a leisurely drive to a living nightmare. Stay vigilant folks. Kill your ego before it kills you.

Ashley thank you for all your videos, very helpful for any driver and very sensible advice.

If you ever had driven a tractor you would know just how bad some cars drive round tractors and your always going to come second best to a tractor in an accident .

I agree with "I have the right of way" as in its a bad mindset but it takes the cammer 5 seconds till impact to catch up. He is also in the wrong by the law as he shouldn't be overtaking so why would the tractor even need to look behind when its a no-passing zone? simple answer, he shouldn't and yes u can argue "it's always safe to check" but if he was following the law AS HE SHOULD then this wouldn't have ever happened. Yes I agree with the points you make Ashley, but when someone breaks the law, they are to blame and that's final. Also, I do love how u see things and try keeping neutral and glad to see some driving instructors are that way, keep up the good driving and showing others wrong from right.

@kombirat

3 жыл бұрын

Would he be allowed to overtake as the line is broken on his side? Not familiar with the law in Scotland

@pangolin83

3 жыл бұрын

@@kombirat At 1:06, he technically starts an overtake before his vehicle is on the part with the broken line on the left. He was way too eager to overtake and technically did break the law

@kombirat

3 жыл бұрын

@@pangolin83 Didn't catch that. Either way he definitely should have slowed down more.

@pangolin83

3 жыл бұрын

@@TPH250290 With the dashcams and GPS devices I've used, the GPS speed tends to be a few mph less than the speed indicated on the speedometer, so he must have been doing more than 64mph at the time of the collision - definitely no excuse

@iniehawk4472

3 жыл бұрын

Problem being, if you don't do your observations before making a manoeuvre you are also breaking the law. Even if your in the right, taking a couple of seconds to do these last checks could save lives and livelihoods, and could save you lots of hassle. That being said it looks like the tractor driver did spot him, just a bit too late, probably due to the speed and unexpected nature of the incident.

I don't understand why he didn't slow down. Even if the turns on either side of the road weren't there, the solid white line is. He can clearly see the tractor ahead, moving slowly, and had more than enough time to react. Why on earth would anyone try to overtake on a road that says no overtaking? The speed on approach is atrocious too. Sometimes you end up stuck behind someone doing far below the limit, that's just part of driving on country roads. There's no excuse for this kind of impatience. He's lucky he didn't die. This is a perfect example of why insurance is so expensive for new drivers, and rightly so. Passing your test doesn't make you a good driver, even if you managed to ace it. Silly, silly boy. I hope he learns from this truly horrifying experience.

We have to admire the lightning reactions of a Tree Sloth. Irrespective of the tractor's intentions, the very fact that there's a junction to the right might well be a serious threat, a vehicle may well come straight out with the driver looking to his right for oncoming traffic, not expecting anything to be on his side of the road to the left.. I'm pretty sure that my time with motorcycles, developing a survival instinct based on situational awareness has kept me accident-free for 58 yrs, in spite of a multitude of speeding tickets.

I don’t see how you can blame part of it being the tractor drivers fault. There is no way he would of seen him at the speed he was going. And at the angle the tractor was at to the bend. It’s just pure lack of experience. Not looking at the road ahead. And just wants to get infront of the tractor as quick as possible. Also a new qualified driver with a high powered car. Disaster waiting to happen. But glad you are all good and was not as seriously injured you learn but your mistakes.

@reqprofit9642

3 жыл бұрын

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As a driving instructor your catch phrase at the end of every video clip should be Never go any faster than you can stop safely in the distance that you can see to be clear.

I always thought when you passed your driving test thats it just drive now, but as I am older and a new driver its a constant learning process, these videos help alot and I will continue to watch these videos and others

The tractor looks like it stopped right before the impact, which suggests that he saw the car coming and tried to allow the overtake. Sadly far too late and by stopping in the middle of the road, he took away all possible options for the car to avoid the collision. So late signal, checking mirrors late and then blocking the road. Risky driving from the car, very poor and careless driving from the tractor. This is at least a 50/50 if not actually more the tractor’s fault. Turn signals are there for a reason and putting them on just as you’re turning is a failure to signal in my books. To add: the road was clear, the double line stopped at the moment of the overtake. Making a decision to pass a slow vehicle when the opportunity presents itself is perfectly legal and acceptable. Nothing illegal in Nathan’s driving. Yes, slowing is the safe thing to do but turning without signal and mirror check is what ultimately cased this accident.

A very powerful car for a young man with little experience.

Having been in a similar situation, I sympathise with the cammer, and I am glad they both came out ok. From first seeing the tractor to collision was about 6 seconds, and even under ideal conditions, braking from 60 mph could take up to 6.5 seconds. Even an experienced driver would have to react immediately on first seeing the tractor to avoid a collision. To be fair to the cammer, I don't think he was driving aggressively or going for an overtake. He needed to have been going slower even before seeing the tractor. It can be a hard lesson to learn, but often a safe speed on A roads is nowhere near 60 even if that is the posted limit.

As soon as Ashley said BMW I started thinking of the stereotypical BMW driver. I'm glad Nathan's fine and he was man enough to submit his video and photos. I really hope he learns from this experience. I don't think anyone gets the BMW thing until they've owned or driven one. You do really need to know the limits of both the car and your driving ability whether you're in a 318 or an M3. To consider attempting such an overtake was dodgy because of the solid white lines. He should've slowed down rather than attempt the dodgy overtake. Good judgement comes form experience, experience comes from bad judgement.

As someone who drives on the A92 regularly, as I live in Fife, that road is hell. You have to keep your guard up 110% of the time as there are SO many points on that road that accidents can happen, if you take your eyes off the road for even a millisecond. In fact, just last weekend a gentleman sadly died when he got into an accident on the slip road coming off of the A92 in Cowdenbeath, the town right next to ourselves.

When I was driving I realised that farm vehicle sometimes haven’t always got good visibility to the rear,so I reduced my speed to assess the situation before deciding to overtake or not. I also used the same rules with lorries who sometimes are out of position at junctions to facilitate a turn and never went down the side of them till the lights had changes and the lorry had made their turn.

@farmingace1015

3 жыл бұрын

yea exactly right with implements like that on the miiros basically do nothing as mostly will show the drill

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

I always hang back when I see any vehicle doing anything that isn't just trundling along at speed. You never know what's going through another person's mind and his instructor should have made that very clear when teaching him. I'd rather spend the extra couple of pence on fuel and 10 seconds of time having to get back up to speed than end up dead.

Watching the collision on a phone I couldn’t see the indicator until the analysis. The white and red boards hide the indicator. Maybe this type of towed equipment should have a removable light bar hung underneath. In this situation I would have slowed down.

What lots of drivers fail to comprehend is that just because there is a speed limit it does not mean it is safe to do that speed, only travel at a speed that is safe for the road conditions. As soon as he seen that tractor the foot should have come off the gas.

The GPS speed read 63 mph so the speedometer was probably indicating nearer 70 mph and even if the tractor hadn't started to turn he was still going into the back of it, possibly with even more serious consequences.

That's one of my local roads, that section is massive for accidents. I think I may know the person who owns the farm that tractor belongs to, small world

@craigkearns6425

3 жыл бұрын

Carrma is that a 50mph stretch?

@carrma3831

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigkearns6425 Don't believe so. I can't say I travel it much, my journeys tend to take me south and this is to my North. I also don't drive yet.

@craigkearns6425

3 жыл бұрын

Carrma I spoke to a mate of mine who lives near there, it’s a 60

@scottishfugee

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigkearns6425 its a 60 and there has been calls for over 40 yrs to have it made in dual carraige

First, all credit to Nathan for owning his mistake by sending this in. Second, I’m not sure the farmer could have done much different - an early signal might have been misinterpreted (especially by a relatively inexperienced driver closing in at 60) as an “it’s okay to pass me” signal. Third; obviously Nathan is closing too fast and planning to overtake in an area where that’s clearly not allowed (likely not allowed to prevent that exact type of collision). It doesn’t matter that the point he would have overtaken was about a single inch after overtaking became legal again; “legal” is not the same as “a good idea” and you should never drive so fast that you cannot stop in the road space you have, irrespective of the posted limit. No early arrival or thrill of speed is worth a driver’s (or anyone else’s) life. Nevertheless credit again for sending it in; something that probably proves lessons learned.

@reqprofit9642

3 жыл бұрын

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Being a young inexperienced driver, and an impatient one at that, makes sense. The first thing I saw made me think he was driving too fast for that road. This is a situation where I would not be driving that fast in the first place, but then as soon as that tractor came into view, I would be on the brakes to slow down smoothly, being aware and accommodating to anyone following me.

How he escaped with just cuts and bruises is miraculous. Very lucky lad!

_Just so you don't make the same mistake yourself..._ as two cars edge over the double white lines.

Many cars in NZ appear to have ‘turn activated’ indicators……. They come on calf way through a fur;, if at all

These are not called accidents, it’s called collision caused by careless driving.

Good video, driving and accidents aside... I really like the presenter and professional way your doing your videos!

would like to see comments from Nathan about his speed, his intention, was it to overtake and if so why? What consideration did he give to the turning on the right and what has he learnt?

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

Of course his intention was to overtake. There's no way he actually meant to try and drive through the tractor itself as he ended up doing.

@radishpea6615

3 жыл бұрын

@@mydogeatspuke was his intention to overtake a decision to avoid a collision or and out and out decision to overtake. At what point was the decision to overtake made because if there was oncoming traffic, the overtake would not have been on if it was close.

@mydogeatspuke

3 жыл бұрын

@@radishpea6615 the decision to overtake appeared to have been made as soon as he saw the tractor. That's why he accelerated instead of slowed down. There was nothing to suggest that he had any intention of waiting behind the tractor for any amount of time. And yes, that is very dangerous. Everything about his driving in this clip is dangerous. Even when he realises he's not going to get around the tractor and swerves back in, he keeps his foot in the accelerator. It's actually terrifying how badly he was driving and a miracle he didn't die.

The fact the gps speed on the dashcam says 62 means me must of been doing 66 -67 needle speed. Bmw drivers don't disappoint how badly they can drive

@leexgx

3 жыл бұрын

But his actual speed would have been 62mph (issue here wasn't speed it was he went for the overtake at a junction instead of breaking)

@wumpty93

3 жыл бұрын

@@leexgx Yeah but don't forget he might of thought he was doing nearly 70 and fact the car goes slower than you think it does probably saved his life.

@thomaswood2390

3 жыл бұрын

It almost doesn't matter if he was doing 90 miles per hour; it was the decision to overtake before he could properly asses the situation that did it. He should have slowed down upon seeing the near-stationary tractor around a corner and not tried to overtake on double white lines and hatchings before a junction. The damage would be less severe but the crash would have happened at 45mph with those attitudes.

@dopiaza2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswood2390 If he was doing 90, he'd have passed the tractor before it started turning :)

These videos are fantastic, you can learn so much from the mistakes other people make, i did the same when i was riding a motorbike, watched videos of motorcycle crashes and why so i could understand what to avoid even better than passing the basic test.

I was taught 2 things when learning to drive, 1) treat everyone as if they're an idiot, and out to get you. 2) expect the unexpected. In spite of there being lots of warning signs for an experienced driver, point 2 could have saved the situation easily.

Glad he's alright but he's only reinforcing the BMW stereotype

@Zeyr01

3 жыл бұрын

🤣 Just part and parcel of the BMW driving experience.

@johnkeepin7527

3 жыл бұрын

And the risk assessments of most insurance companies.

@supergeekjay

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnkeepin7527 The reason why my insurance is up £160 this year. And I'm a (careful) Astra driver. We're paying for idiots like these that think they're untouchable cause they have a prestige badged car. Usually on tons of finance.

@rsoss92js

3 жыл бұрын

And it's a waste of a perfectly good E92.

@rsoss92js

3 жыл бұрын

@@supergeekjay @SuperJames 1985 There has to be another reason. My insurance dropped by almost £1,500 despite there being multiple accidents on the road that I park it on at night. If you stayed with the same insurer that might be why. Or perhaps you moved to a less vehicle friendly address? So many different factors.

Nice intro. Like a BBC news report.

@pangolin83

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely reminded me of that! Or those car safety videos they used to make us watch at school

Well this just spooked me. I was driving along there yesterday! Either way, regardless of the road being clear, he could have saved himself from this by just slowing down the moment he saw the tractor.

Let's just say he somehow managed to get pass and stop in time, that would further boost his ego that he's a good driver. Some people just will not learn until they have an accident or ... sometimes just grow out of it.

The tractor driver strengthened his wheels before impact expecting the car to go pass

@afreeman1980

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are correct there.

62mph(100kph) on the bend im sorry but i need to say that is damn too fast on a bend without full visibility, he very lucky that crash did not kill him

@endatheworld

3 жыл бұрын

62mph is already breaking the law.

@David-sw2fn

3 жыл бұрын

Dogs Bollocks I agree. This wasn’t a mistake. This guy was driving recklessly. I don’t think he should have been allowed back in charge of a vehicle until at least he had received further training. A bump in insurance premiums is insufficient. Okay, the guy has submitted the clip and hopefully has learnt from this. It still doesn’t change the reality that his driving fell below a competent standard to the point of negligence and he could easily have killed someone.

@iain3482

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but his speedometer would probably have been reading around 68-70mph.

@wetlettuce4768

3 жыл бұрын

Speed into the corner wasn't the issue it was the fact he was too busy putting on his rising sun head band and screaming "Bonzai!!"

If you play the impact frame by frame you'll actually see that Nathan very nearly captured his own death on video. Even looks like he's got part of the machinery in his hand in one frame. Absolutely incredible. If only people would learn.

My driving instructor always advised that if I can’t stop within the space and distance that I can see then I’m travelling too fast. Slow down a little, take in to account weather conditions, surface quality and available traction.

@mikeh2006

Жыл бұрын

Being able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear is perhaps some of the best advice you'll ever get for driving. Did you know, that on roads only wide enough for one vehicle, you should increase that distance by 2 to accomodate people coming the other way. Such as those single track national speed limit roads.

Looks like cruise control was on, safe to use it on a motorway but dangerous on smaller roads as it takes away the driver's need to manage their speed.

@fabsy64

3 жыл бұрын

It's only dangerous if you're not paying attention to the road. I use it all the time and, if anything, it increases my concentration as I'm constantly aware of what's ahead of (and behind) me and I'm always ready to apply the brakes in a timely manner. It only takes away the driver's need to manage their speed if the driver allows it to.

@andyalder7910

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabsy64 You don't have it on if you are in the middle of a queue of vehicles surely? You would have to adjust the speed it was set at all the time.

@fabsy64

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyalder7910 When I say I use it all the time, I mean on every journey and on all road types, not that it's in use 100% of the time. That said, I have adaptive cruise control which means that the car will match the speed of the vehicle in front.

@andyalder7910

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabsy64 That's cool, you're not one of the ones that control the speed with the brake pedal so the brake lights are on all the time.

@fabsy64

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyalder7910 Oh god no!

Oof that's a nasty one... Glad he's OK.

The A92 is treacherous, most Dundonians driving south (Edinburgh or beyond) will avoid it by heading first to Perth and then driving south on the M90, we only use the A92 when we are specifically going somewhere in Fife such as Glenrothes or Kirkcaldy because it's a hair-raising experience, lots of high speed traffic on what is essentially a country road.

A great learning point for hazard awareness. I was tensing up as he approached the tractor without slowing even a little. Glad to hear that both he and the passenger are ok. That could have turned out very differently.

This isn't the tractors fault. Its a young driver in a BMW racing along.

@tilidie5272

3 жыл бұрын

daddy will still pay his doubled insurance fees tho

@joer2513

3 жыл бұрын

@@tilidie5272 Spot on... Just get a cheap for your first, pay your own insurance, then you weigh up and feel the heat of the risks that come when driving, pisses me off, I've just passed and got my first car, I know my place, I'm a corsa driver, I'm nothing, I've not made it anywhere, yet.

@josephmarsh8235

3 жыл бұрын

Actually he could've checked mirrors better just watch the video in link to get proof

"Nathans speed is also cracking on a bit, not saying you couldn't do on this type of road..." - He's over 60mph, on a contraflow national speed limit road, which is limited to 60mph. So surely you can't do that? As well as this at a GPS speed reading of 63 his car speedo is going to be reading much closer to 70...

@johnkeepin7527

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. On an almost straight line move at that sort of speed, the camera’s display is a lot more accurate than the car’s - although it’s measured over the previous second, so a bit weird for rapid braking, or on sharp curves. In my car, the normal speedometer display is about 5% fast, so it would show about 65. That said, no sign of slowing down on the approach to that. All cars have to display a slightly high value on account of the published standards, not the other way round.

I genuinely couldn't see the indicators even once they'd been mentioned. I looked several times before I finally saw it just before the impact. I know that's bad and they should be clearly visible, but in all honesty it didn't change my view of what happened. Nathan needed to slow down way further back and it's so lucky no-one was seriously hurt. I hope the shock of how close that was hasn't messed with his head and that the only thing he takes from it is being a safer driver. I think that would be enough to scare me from driving again! I hope Nathan and all involved are doing well :)

With a solid white line, the tractor driver is not expecting another vehicle to overtake. I'm glad that Nathan and his passenger was able to walk away from this - collisions with tractors are often far worse. Some years ago, a couple riding a fast bike went down the B1200, out of Louth. Part way along this road, it dips and bends to the left, as your coming out of town, and coming the other way was a tractor, flailing the hedge. The bike ended up between the tractor and the hedge, and very sadly for both the riders, they lost their lives. The B1200 into Louth has played host to many accidents, some caused when the council resurface the road, and cars spin out on the loose stone, or parked vehicles get chipped or cracked screens from flying stones, including my car. The message is very simple - drive according to the road conditions, not just the speed limit, and this includes tractors turning.