I'm impressed that this video acknowledges the real world possibility of having a vindictive boss.

I've tried all these on the list and I can attest that you will never be right in the eyes of a narcissist.

@bisacool7339

2 жыл бұрын

Its a matter of conviction and principles now, either you wanted to die as a victim, or lived long enough and able you say to yourself you are a survivor. Pick your poison.

@sushant1233

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt a narcissist would like to lose money. You just need to convey your opinions properly...

@donkeylzc

2 жыл бұрын

try lookin up chriss voss. Especially when it comes to a narcissit, giving the illusion of control, is more powerful. Also the laws of power by robert greene. Ive found these 2 sources useful for everyday negotiations

@krizaf.quirante-bermuda3689

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree .. dealing with Narcissist is different

@MGA19a

Жыл бұрын

@@bisacool7339 BS - he did not state that he feels victim - the fact is - there are number of psychos and egocentrics with whom non of these (as the matter of fact none at all) tactic works - other than "pleasing" them - but you are right in a certain way - you can (and should) leave the environment like that ;-) love it - change it - or leave it (3 options)

One thing I have done as the head of Communications is said “my job is to protect your reputation and the reputation of the company. With that in mind I am sharing this feedback”

@junboklee4532

2 жыл бұрын

I've got the same job and I can feel the emotions in that statement..I use a similar approach.

@sandrass560

2 жыл бұрын

This is a very good statement. Thank you.

@vedawattieram15

Жыл бұрын

Like this idea - works well as head of communications! Guess it can be tweaked depending on the context! Thanks!

@blakelyons5909

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this

@mynameispeaches

16 күн бұрын

Best comment.

I have a formula for giving our opinion in a fair manner. It's called ABCD A. Approve. Give nod and interest when you hear other people. I.e: "ok..." B. Breakdown. Ask the detail about their message or opinion and make sure that you have same point to discuss and reconfirm the point as the goals of the idea is also good so you can have a same page situation C. Compare. After you have breakdown the opinion and state the goal, then you can give them your disagreement or your different notion. D. Decide. Make a final statement for you to give them the decision depend on who is the one who has the decision.

@sheldongermaine7662

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, noted

@andreamonroy3693

Жыл бұрын

This rule may work next time. I blame myself that I broke on tears in front on my boss during a disagreement

@inaskandeel

Жыл бұрын

@@andreamonroy3693 Please don't blame yourself. We are humans after all. It's Ok to be yourself. I broke in tears at work before. Your boss should regret that they pushed you to the verge of tears.

@samsg

Жыл бұрын

📖 saved - abcd technic

This really works. When I was a young and inexperienced lawyer I had to appeal to a judge in her private chamber. In the end I said it was her decision. I was very humble and respectful. She wasn't my boss, but it's a similar scenario.

It’s cute how many people in the comments don’t think they need to learn these skills because they can talk to their supervisors as equals. I’m glad so many people have lived such a blessed life so far. Thank you for sharing these tips with those of us who do need them.

@juanangelmontemayor7889

Ай бұрын

It's not a blessed life, it's courage to look someone in the eyes and dare them to look down on you, and frankly, it's not something you will learn from a YT video.

"How to do all of the emotional heavy lifting for the powerful man above you who has never, in his life, had to emotionally regulate himself for the sake of connection."

@SnagPony

Ай бұрын

😂 exactly....I'm just gonna disagree immediately and not think too much about it, if that upsets someone's ego then that's really not my problem!

I’m a VP and I want anyone at any level to disagree with me at any time, and I would do the same with anyone above or below me. Clarity is kindness and if you don’t agree you need to be clear about that. We don’t have time to wait for someone to work up the courage and find the right time. The right time is always now, when the discussion is happening. If we live in fear of raising our voice we put the entire company at risk. Just say what you think and be ready for an ensuing discussion so we can all gain greater clarity.

@carolineomondi5361

Жыл бұрын

That's great that you are an exec open enough to "entertain" disagreements with your ideas. Many execs create an environment that is threatening and employees do not feel safe sharing their ideas or dissenting opinions. I think this video is targeted to those.

@BusterDarcy

Жыл бұрын

@@carolineomondi5361 totally hear you on that, there are def execs out there who are managing their ego more than their teams or the company. If someone is under someone like that, you can still disagree but frame it as a question. So rather than saying, I don’t think our customers want that feature, you can try something like, how did we determine that our customers will want that feature. Finding the right way to disagree based on the person adds a layer of complexity, but the most important part is that it’s done sooner rather than later. The longer we wait to voice our concern, the less likely that concern will have any relevance because we’ve already executed on the decision and moved on. It can be super uncomfortable and feel like you’re taking a risk, but in my experience coming up, leaders respect people who raise their voice thoughtfully, even if it’s in disagreement, far more than the folks who tend to just nod in silence. The former are hard to come by in the workforce while the latter are a dime a dozen. A good leader, even with a fragile ego, will recognize who is contributing vs who is just playing along and over the one run that risk will translate into reward.

@carolineomondi5361

Жыл бұрын

@@BusterDarcy Got it. I would still add context and timing as key determinants of how one's differing opinion is received.

@akashmukherjee6769

Жыл бұрын

Glad there's some open discussion going on here. And, the video goes into "asking for permission to disagree". It just goes to show how hierarchical and one-directional power is in organizations. Despite all of this truth, all modern organizations perpetrate the ideas of "flat hierarchies" and "titles don't matter". In practice, they totally matter.

@alaric3056

Жыл бұрын

That sounds exactly like a VP email I would not read.

You should be able to disagree with your superiors in the exact same way that you disagree with everyone else. If you can't speak your mind freely, then this is probably not a place you want to work at. Also, if you wait to express your opinion, in many cases the bad idea / wrong direction ends up building momentum and it becomes much harder to stop later on.

@sushant1233

2 жыл бұрын

This video isn't about which kind of a company you should work at or whether you need to have a work environment where everyone can talk their mind freely to their superiors. It is about how to convey differences in opinion to your superiors (and might I add) in the real world.

@EugeneKhutoryansky

2 жыл бұрын

@@sushant1233 The world is what we choose to make of it. If we accept the premise that people need to be afraid to speak their mind, then that is the type of world we will create.

@christinerock6711

Жыл бұрын

These methods work well when speaking with everyone. Respect, thoughtfulness and constructive language should be a part of our everyday speech. Also, being afraid to speak up isn’t necessarily a sign that your work environment is unhealthy. That fear might came from our own insecurities, lack of experience, or past troubles. I think this video can be especially helpful for those who need an extra shot of courage or confidence.

@gracieofgod8899

2 ай бұрын

Sometimes you have a superior that doesn’t take criticism well, so it can be helpful to be able to work with them with minimal repercussions while you strategize either leaving the company or (if possible) waiting out their time in that position

Sounds like how you disagree can be just as important as disagreeing.

@ActuallyAwesomeName

2 ай бұрын

Astute observation, Billy

Fantastic advice! Thank you for posting.

Great tips, beautiful presentation, but of course we should remember the importance of "culture" and "the person we are going to disagree with". 👍

Well stated here - nice work!

Love the role play u did - pls dial this more as it helps to see those words said out loud

I live in north korea and my boss is this chubby guy who thinks he owns the place. Tomorrow I'll tell him what I think about this place. Wish me luck guys!

@johngablesmith4671

2 жыл бұрын

This is so stupid lol.

@Pooja-pd1ee

3 ай бұрын

I thought it's funny 😅

@Jj-rq9sp

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

When presented with a " Need for Your Decision" from Others ... That Individual usually has Already Spent Time Mulling Over / Deciding .. and in some Prof & Personal Situations .. has Likely Thought over "What to Say to You" And they might Strongly Suggest Your Buy In .. Right Away .. I have found that the Simple Expression > Let Me Think it Over .. not Only Defuses the Other's Imposed Urgency on You . but it gives You Time to Think Over and make the right Decision for You Perspective .. not the other Person . It also will give you Opportunity for You to Observe how the other person Reacts to their desire to Rush to "their" judgement .. Their ReAction could be Very Telling as to their Actual Intent .. or their Opinion of Your Suggestion.

Disagreeing with someone was never a boxing match, no matter where you stand in the hierarchy

Great strategies! Thank you!

In the culture that i worked. If you were to disagree. You will be shown the door. My stratgey to first agree and take the course then show them why its not working has helpled me to keep my job...

Very useful and insightful techniques.

Thanks a ton, Amy & HBR; this video and a video on 'Listening' would be great.

@crm5412

2 жыл бұрын

Dont try this in India

This is FAB, thank you!

EXCELLENT! Thank you :)

#3 in the if/when/where can cause someone to go in mental loops if they overthink it. Make a decision at some point and have self-compassion. #2 in the how can lead to be getting taken advantage of, so just be careful. Otherwise, great and sensible tips!

Great tips. I think it’d be great if managers had this discussion with their staff at the outset 🙌🏻

@kevinfield2162

Жыл бұрын

Some of us do

Wow amazing talk

Good to look at the risk.

Do the right thing and say it ppl

My favorite approach to persuading a boss was to plant an idea worthy of pursuit in my boss’s mind then wait. Eventually that idea would surface as the boss’s idea who would then take credit for coming up with it, but I would get what I wanted, frequently accompanied by a sweet bonus.

Don't high expectation, open mind, focus on your strength point , read interviewer mind.

When my superior demands an unrealistic timeline, I just report sick.

@bluesun2001

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂❤

The surrounding environment should be conducive for experiment with the communication. CEOs should be defining this culture with a top-down approach while allowing bottom-up information flow; constant circulation.

Never disagree and then change jobs every few years. That way you neither cause confrontation nor do you have to live with the consequences of management making bad decisions. Good for my paycheck, but bad for investors. Tough shit.

@eagillum

2 жыл бұрын

That kind of lacks moral courage.

For me it comes down to something simpler. To function correctly, humans need hierarchies that must be respected. You can't waste time debating every decision because someone needs their ideas to be accepted. Each person will have their time to have priority, but in the meantime they must accept those of their superior and keep quiet.

thanks a lot!

Thanks for this video. It helps us to disagree professionally and foster communication and understanding.

I just ignore my incompetent bosses (not the good ones) and let the situation get progressively sour until we can't stand eachother which ultimately results in me leaving or getting fired from the job. I would rather get fired a thousand times than selling my soul.

@Shellll

2 ай бұрын

Thats it my guy

@IPIndie

Ай бұрын

Sounds healthy. Keep up. Definitely a recipe for long-term success and not for frustration and poor work-life integration.

3:24 I'd like to layout my reasoning, would that be okay with you?? 4:38 Just thinking Outloud here

So much fluff for just speaking our mind? The manager can say whatever without much consideration but a subordinate has to go through all this? I still appreciate your ideas though...but Frankly this is just too much preparation for speaking one's mind.

@sjvbny291

2 жыл бұрын

So true. Speaking our mind with preparation (diplomatic approach not direct)

@tonyosime9380

2 жыл бұрын

@@sjvbny291 The preparation is worth it because the results are worth it. Also, with practice the prep becomes automatic.

@gracieofgod8899

2 ай бұрын

If you have a vindictive superior, strategy can be worthwhile

Understand that as individuals, you and your boss are at the same level. He has no “power” over you. Once you are out of that frame, then think purely from a professional perspective, what can be done, and be diplomatic on it. If you are facing issues on a personal perspective on the other hand, speak directly and bluntly as you would to any other person.

@Gruso57

2 ай бұрын

Yea but you aren't individuals in the workplace, he's your superior and has power over your position. It's naive to think otherwise.

this is hard to watch for me, but i get the point. ill try to learn from.this.

So much of the risk involved in disagreement arises from powerful people acting to defend their positions and to ‘assert dominance’. Perhaps part of the risk assessment could be to work out which potential harms are from defensive responses and which are not. Other options include that you demonstrate an aspect of your own ignorance and that lowers your standing (likely a great learning opportunity), or that you do convince them to change something but it goes wrongly and you end up being blamed.

And after following all these steps you would probably end up diluting the meaning in your disagreement to the point of its non-existence. The vital power in your speech is You, and that "You" has been successfully emasculated. Well done! I have lot of such people in my workplace who in the bid to not "offend" anyone cannot speak their mind. Trust me, no one takes them seriously. They are generally under-achievers in the workplace too, because they have curtailed their passion, just in order to survive.

@free22

2 жыл бұрын

Workplaces are different. It’s one thing to be in a young start up, a large finance corporation, a heavy manufacturing, or a large governmental organization. In some places, no one brings up a disagreement by emphasizing the “you.” And that works for those places. At the other extreme, you have workplaces where people get in each others’ face and scream at each other.

@seandewaal7980

2 жыл бұрын

This is specifically a strategy of dealing with a more powerful figure at work, not all colleagues. Plus, the video makes it very clear that you should be calm and confident in your approach. Finally, nothing suggests you should dilute your message; it's about framing it in the best possible light.

@manonamission2000

2 ай бұрын

Corporations are there to serve shareholders... employees are there to deliver value and align with the corporate vision and mission. The more you align, the more you thrive.

With Slack/Teams, it is a bit easier as we can relax behind our chat, but how how would you do it in real-time, when people call you out of the blue or come to you desk and need an immediate answer? Or you are in a meeting with many stakeholders and not stating your opinion may put you in the bind?

1. are you confident, comfortable with who you are? 2. do you respect yourself? 3. does the person respect you or not? 4. do you respect the person or not? Other dimensions to consider.

Thanks a lot for this guide. Again and again I come back to this topic to learn more about it. One point I'm not clear about though: How is it less threatening to meet a more powerful person in private? I feel more threatened when I meet a person that has more power than my direct manager. In a more public setting at least there are other people seeing the abuse, if it happens. I love the reminder that I should look for the shared goal first. From time to time I find I can do that already. Also loving the idea to state my point as my opinion and leaving the "final call" to them, which might be true no matter what I think.

@sandrass560

2 жыл бұрын

Your points are cool. Thank you. I think in the video, she meant that it is less threatening for the manager/boss for you to speak in private with them, so that they do not feel as if their faults have been made public. In case you make a very valid point and they feel foolish, it is at least in the privacy of their office and not infront of everyone. Someone neutral may become angry and defensive in public whereas they may have stayed calm and open to changing their mind when confronted in private. It is, I guess, "saving face" for the boss. Which is also good.

Excellent

I like to use: Help me understand… How does this compare to… (or differ from…)?

good points

Can you do a video for how to do this with state jobs?

"Ask for forgiveness, not permission" comes to mind with these conversations. Otherwise you never have them especially when they are needed.

All this is good etc…93% of communication is non verbal - work on them. Humbleness & friendly but confident subservience while keeping a focus on shared goals with your boss (while objectively discussing the difference) works

Does this work for raises?

Acknowledging authority seems fair. However, sometimes they use that as ammo. Go with your gut on that one.

0:50 is exactly what happened at one of my old internships

Noted ✅️

Interesting Music.

Staying

I was never such a person. At initial stage of my profession, I had 1 or 2 bosses who like to pick on me. But it is not a personal grudge. That is how they are with everybody, fussy, bossy and demand respect. I just do my work and follow all the rules. After some time, they like me bcoz I make their work easy by doing my job properly. They have nothing to find fault on me in terms of work. As I become senior, my bosses can even go to the extent to joke to change my mood and be playful with me. That is the sweetest thing. Why must they do that for a subordinate?? So I have learn to be in the good books of my bosses without carrying their basket.

@manonamission2000

2 ай бұрын

make your superior's work easy, do your job properly, and you will succeed in the workplace... it's an easy recipe... you are hired to resolve problems, not create them

You are right towards the end, that’s a lot! Rather unrealistic approach, at least for me.

Do supervisors go through these jumps and hoops to give feedback?... If not, then why should non-supervisors have to?

What if the boss is trying to KID what you did (That is nothing!!! I've done A, B, C) or to BOARD what you did (See we are all working for a number) ?

Will you please give some thought to how a person with a disability, who has achieved sufficient success may be able to share that experience, yet bumps up into a myriad of thresholds which are designed to narrow the field, rather than showing inclusive right to lending and credit, as well as markets. We find large gaps in the process of sharing what we believe to be essential components in the nutrition education field, based on science as it relates to food and healthy living. Feeling confounded and block at every turn, as people seek knowledgeable methods to achieve maximum wellness. #fatigued #confounded

As someone who lives in Texas this was painful to watch. Speaking up can get you treated harshly and fired. Even using every one of the aspects of the advice given. I feel this advice is only beneficial in places where laws can protect you from bias like California or the UK. However, I have learned strategies to simply negotiate with the information you're trying to convey. It's extremely challenging to do, but if you're in a place where the laws allow bosses to dismiss or mistreat you without cause, it is the only option of communication.

Asian bosses are different, most of them do not like any of their subordinate to defy their ideas or words. ' I SAY U DO' is the motto

@Cacofonixravi

2 жыл бұрын

Stems from caste system

Tried this with my military commander. Got an article 15.

Great technics. But with a good boss or colleague, you don't need any of those strategies

I am always the 1st one. Love it. I would like to participate as well.

These methods work with ‘normal’ people. Major workplace issues are often with the ‘not normal’ variety. They may be either narcissistic or sociopathic to some degree. Their aims are not your aims.

Me: I would like to state my reasoning, would that be okay? Boss: Nope Me: Got it

Wow, it wasn't academically cute. It was more connected to ground reality. Kudos.

Interesting is that in plain 2024 one still cannot disagree freely from bosses, even if they are clearly hurting the company with bad decisions and other impairments or so. At the end, the employee who disagrees will be the bad guy and suffer retaliation. Why the conversation can’t be open and free between peers working for toward the same goal? Why criticizing up is not acceptable? People are fallible, and teams exist to work together, with one holding a few more responsibilities than others, but still fallible, still accountable, still needing to learn every day. Agreeing with everything just enable poor decisions and management to perpetuate. I saw firsthand what bad management, making tons of mistakes can cause to a company and no criticism or disagreement was allowed. It is sad.

Because we all know Plato’s Euthyphro was right about right! Try to identify toxic, authoritarian, or otherwise questionable cultures while interviewing, so you can accept an offer with confidence. Doing that, though, will require further resources and information.

👍nice

Finding a good boss in the first place might help.

i just want to be myself and talk..

You will get fired and or even looked down or a threat or hated by your peers . Just built your own company or business that’s the future , be able to make your own money is your power

@rockoutconsiderably

2 ай бұрын

I've been in both situations. The biggest thing is to figure out if there is a good "fit" personality wise and professionally between you and your boss.

My mother just turns off the air conditioning when I disagree with her. If I complain she says she’s saving the environment.

I find my voice to disagree with someone more powerful than me in being first, above board in my niche or job description. They usually miss your intention to make an idea better from calling for a rethink . Most tie your opinion to undermining their authority if shared with others present . I always prepare my work-life to sustain a six-month after a sudden sack hits if I ever give a contrary opinion and it's taken personally. They only consider your opinion if they see you need them to check their stand again or hit an obvious pitfall. They will do anything for you not to be right .

Try to meet my boss

我不知道😅！

I wouldn't bother with this.

Are you a nurse?

I’m getting nervous watching this. 😅

It's too bad we can't just have direct, honest conversation. "Boss, that's dumb and you're going to make us waste a lot of time and money on a meaningless project." Instead you gotta sugarcoat, manipulate, coddle and spoonfeed your dumb boss so you don't bruise their ego and have them use their hierarchical advantage against you.

🥺

How long is too long or too late when waiting to present my case? Ive noticed that when I wait to gather my case, 2 months pass by and nothing is done yet. Maybe I can still present my case?

Make it sound like it was the boss's idea

Phyllis, how dare you disagree with Michael Scott?

Couldn’t keep watching with the childlike snaps and background drums. I guess I’ll keep trusting intuition.

I tried after watching this video. Now I am unemployed.

If you're working a job where you find yourself asking for permission to disagree then you should maybe consider leaving the company.

Wait a minute. Boxing isn't a strategic sport?

If you phrase it like this and do all these steps they might end up listening even less. Either they will be bored by the mechanical approach and intros by the time you get to the point, or you will be perceived as being more catholic than the pope, which is also usually a turn off.

If you want to be heard, top tip, dont play obnoxious music loudly as you speak...

I'll speak up, you look like Phyllis from The Office

For the love of God, just say what's on your mind. If they don't agree, who cares?

If you are nor allowed to speak your mind. You just leave this place already

Alternative title: “How to deal with the rise of authoritarianism in the workplace.”

This advice is certainly very valuable in the business world of the USA. As an anthropologist I might add that it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in a lot of other places and cultures. How many in the US military are allowed to disagree openly with a superior? Starting such a discussion e.g. in a Japanese firm is unimaginable. People living in countries led by dictators do not have the chance to speak their mind.