How to Disable MDS Fuel Management on ALL Dodge/Chrysler/RAM/Jeep Products FREE
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In today’s video I show you how to disable MDS on any dodge, Chrysler, ram, or jeep product. And it’s totally free with no tune needed.
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If I wanted to drive in 4 cylinder mode I would have bought a 4 cylinder. I want all 8 all the time
@dlproductions9574
2 жыл бұрын
It’s 6 cylinder to 8 cylinder
@carstoniu
2 жыл бұрын
put it in TOW/HAUL.. lets her use all 8 way easier then having to drive in manual mode all the time. imo this isnt a solution
@dlproductions9574
2 жыл бұрын
@@carstoniu yeah and that doesn’t work on hemi’s that don’t have a tow mode. I instead got a diablosport tuner and turned off MDS permanently
@carstoniu
2 жыл бұрын
@@dlproductions9574 i was just referring to the "new design" i believe 2019 up.. the diablosport tuner tho is the best way forsure... using manual mode is worse then having it switch imo 😑
@nowarchitect
Жыл бұрын
You hear this @Ram Trucks!?
Thank you so much for your help I was getting ready to get rid of my truck it has never driven this great until now
That’s what I’m talking about TK👍👍👍
Another lesson: Newer eco engines hate dirty oil. They say oil goes 10,000 Miles? It might? Filters don`t go 10,000 miles. Dirty oil and excessive idling kills DOD / MDS engines!
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
9 ай бұрын
I don’t even do 10,000 km on my oil let alone 10,000 miles and I’m pretty sure that when we had jeeps the maximum the manual says you can go on an oil change was around 13 or 14,000 km if I remember right with synthetic oil. And those would be under ideal driving conditions probably mostly highway, you can buy better filters that are good apparently for up to 20,000 km.
@randy1ization
8 ай бұрын
Chrysler recommends pennzoil, which is trash oil... I use mobil 1 or valvoline full synthetic.. ALSO these are big engines, that hold alot of oill. the engines take time to warm up.. let yiour engine get close to normal op temp before you go romping on it..
@jonh2408
5 ай бұрын
Not sure where you get the idea that penzoil is trash. Penzoil ultra platinum performs extremely well in testing. Right up there with royal purple and consistently in the top 3.
@randy1ization
5 ай бұрын
evidently you have nt torn apart many engines , pennzoil leaves a sticky, yellow. sludgy wax film on the internals. . the oil change sticker always says pennzoil on it.., mobil 1 or valvoline is all I will use.. not the cheap venezuelan tar . not sure if they changed the formula for the ultra platinum but that isnt the common oil.. not the run of the mill oil most use.. @@jonh2408
@randy1ization
5 ай бұрын
ive used valvoline or mobil 1 all my life and all of my engines look new inside over 208.000 miles on my old 94 chevy k1500. I use it as a workhorse, pulling boats, horse trailer.,s , bulls, long distances and it runs great and is very clean inside. I have for years ran a bottle of marvel mystery oil thru the gas tank, now and then and before an oil change, I put half a bottle in the oil and run the truck abt 20 minutes then drain it.
Love and support!❤
THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO! don't want the problems nor power loss up hill randomly
@jameskyle2238
19 күн бұрын
when you accelerate, MDS shuts off automatically. You will not have power loss.
Sending love support and respect from Boston 💯💖💙
Don’t have a manual vehicle but glad to be here!! 👍😁
Thanks for this I was able to do mine which is a 2005 model as well
The only reason why I would get a tune to turn off mds is just because of pure laziness.. getting a little tired of manually changing gears every time I turn the truck on
I watched a video before, it says before you drive just put the gear limit to 8. But you’re doing it while driving. I’m wondering if they’re both ok to do.
Cool video thank you
Just had my 2012 Dodge Ram Express 5.7 rebuilt due to collapsed lifter on # 5 and a chewed up camshaft with 96k. Had the MDS deleted while it was being repaired. Run smooth with no hint of a tick. Gas mileage about the same with full time 8. Just had transmission serviced and new fuel filter pump installed. Hopefully good to go for many trouble free miles. I would not buy another truck that has this catastrophic engine design.
I have a 2015 1500 and never have any E light, always just wonder. Someone else said town haul mode works too. I've used the manual or tow and just assume they're working.
Thank you sir
I know it’s been awhile since this video.. but all I did was crank my truck up, unplug the egr valve sensor. Waited till the check engine light came on and reconnected the egr sensor. No unhook battery left it connected and it’s stay in 8 cylinder no mds kick in.
Why don’t they just have a button for me to choose when I want fuel savings or power. I fucking hate when car companies think a computer is gonna know better than me. Might as well remove the gas pedal too 🤦♂️
@TKsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
I know right
@bradg2069
11 ай бұрын
It’s not car company’s, it’s the government. Chrysler pays massive penalties to our communist dictators, while they give Tesla millions of our tax dollars every year. We all will be driving Samsung washing machines in 20 years because half the country votes for democrats.
This process has to be done manually every time upon startup or park to drive shifting in my 2017 ram. Would suggest deleting mds with tune.
Anytime you shut the vehicle off or shift from Drive to reverse or neutral, you will have to do this again.
@moobutt
7 ай бұрын
The Silverados have the same dumb setup. I put mine in M5 unless I’m hitting the highway.
@gman21266
5 ай бұрын
Easier solution: Anytime the ECO light comes on --- just hit the gas for a sec.
I got a 2014 ram, 5.7, i got a 6sp transmission, if i set the gear box to 6th gear with the manual option, will it still shift thru the gears? And not have any issues or problems with the motor or transmission
Thanks for the video!
Have a 23 Challenger ScatPack. Only have 650 miles on it. Not sure yet, but seems like keeping it in sports mode keeps all 8 going at one time.
@ashtontaylor7172
2 ай бұрын
Yea it’s the same difference but you can drive using paddles without being in sport mode.
In my 2013 Ram, I simply turn on the Tow/Haul mode. That turns off the MDS as well.
@jameskyle2238
19 күн бұрын
tow haul mode = burnout mode haha
Might just be the newer vehicles or it might just be the durangos but in my 2022 RT I got a button at his press and I turn it off and it has a memory so if I shut the vehicle off and start up again it still turned off
Thank you says my RAM 2012!
So if there’s no manual shift like that it’s just a 2007 dodge ram 5.7 hemi and I don’t see a shifting like that is there something else I can do I have tow haul in overdrive off that’s the little button on the end of the shift lever I don’t see anything else is there anything else I can do
soooo if you have manual slap shift but don't have the gear limit switch or paddle switch that won't work
Thx from germany
Well you can also just factory disable with a remapping the system.
Nice tip bro! 👍💯👍 But the way I drive the MDS rarely kicks in anyway! 🤣🤣🤣
@moparchallenger749
2 жыл бұрын
I Hear That 👍😎
On the 2011 Ram it only works if you drop it down to 5th gear
Free game from big bro 😎
does this work on an 06 chrysler 300c with the 5.7 hemi?
The only thing that sucks is the every time you put in park you have do it again. A tune will actually turn it off. It is a great compromise to be able to disable it though and I do without even thinking about at this point.
this doesnt work on a 21 charger, i have to actually move the stick shift to manual mode, but when done with the paddle shifters its stays there for a minute then goes back to automatic
rams only go back to 2009 with manual shifting. my 2008 has 4 speed auto. no manual selector.
Still liking your Scat Pack? Idk why, but I am seriously considering ditching my 19 2500 for a Charger Scat Pack, that power looks like so much fun 🤩 🤦🏻♂️
@rrlandservice9017
2 жыл бұрын
Until you gotta go to lowes lol
Didn’t work for me in my 2021 ram v6 tradesman. Eco still auto activated with manual mode active
Man you need to help me do this on my 5.0 f150
Who knows of a good tuner for 2020 ram 1500 5.7 so that I can demolish eco from existence... want to get a 44series flowmaster but heard it will sound funny w eco mode switching on an off
Hello, I have a 2008 5.7 ram, I deleted the mds system in the engine, I would like to know if I have to work with the programming
How bout a 2006 300c?
I have an 2018 392 how do you put eco mode back on after you do this?
@TKsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Just get out of manual mode
I found the mds/vvt harness and de-pinned the mds solenoids--don't have remote start and have a light on but guess what..no need to shift manually (which isn't recommended to use 24/7 on the 65rfe)
@crazybob1954mo
Жыл бұрын
Interesting... I just bought a 2020 Jeep Cherokee SRT a few weeks ago. I was wondering if I could just disconnect the wire from the plug going to the MDS solenoids???? Is that what you did?? How has it worked out for you?? Any hints or tips?? Thanks In Advance!!
Does this work on the 2006 Jeep Commander with the 5.7? My MDS system is failing and is continuously shutting down cylinders in and out. I have the 4 speed. I can manually shift between 1-4. I've been putting in 4th and just driving and it feels like its working.
@MrLaurenceDunn
Жыл бұрын
I had same problem as you on a 2005 WK, and do the same as you, I did get all my MDS solenoids replaced with Mopar OEM ones and that has fixed MDS for now its working fine
I went with bigger tires. Now I don't have to remember to take it out of eco. Lol
So you have to do this every time you restart your truck it's not going to stay there?
I have a 2019 Challenger R/T and just have it in sport mode and the MDS is off
Does it change fuel mileage?
Tow Haul mode will also disable MDS.
@LINA2COOL4YOU
Жыл бұрын
Not on 4th gens
Could you do that with 2007 Aspen with no manual mode ?
@timjacobs9860
4 ай бұрын
the tow mode will disactivate the mds mode on aspen/ durango hemi
But does MDS come back on when you go back into automatic mode?
This doesn't work with a 2022 Rebel 1500 G/T package which comes with the 5.7 eTorque. There is no gear limit, only a sport mode. The truck limits the gear you can select up or down based off current speed.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
9 ай бұрын
Yeah same here. I have the GT sport with the e torque motor. Guess I’ll have to buy a tuner or else do all the shifting manually.
Intentionally cause a check engine light, heard that will disable mds until the light is cleared
@kevinjones9013
Жыл бұрын
I know on a 2013 Charger R/T that is not the case.
Tk's garage what's uppp hope all is we'll
I have an 09 charger pursuit. It doesn't have the fancy ass dash cluster or a menu to scroll thru. It has a column shift w/auto stick. How does your "hack" work for me?
@TKsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Yours doesn’t have mds
Any recommendations for dealing with the MDS on a 08 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi? Thanks,
@austynscruggs6867
Ай бұрын
15 and newer have it
Gear Limit is NOT manual shifting for a RAM. All that does is limit the highest gear the truck will go to. example, driving in snow, you don't need 8th gear. set it at 5 and 5th gear is the highest gear the truck will shift to. Only RAM truck with paddle shifters have " manual mode"
Never let vehicle idle especially a late model gas .
I’ve been doing it occasionally on my 2016 Ram 1500 hemi. Need to do it more tho I never noticed any fuel economy difference tho
@RedNineTeen
3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that crazy? That mds doesn’t even really save fuel
@THEDESTROYER711
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedNineTeen it’s just some more epa regulation bullshit. Designed for their fuel economy tests but not for real world driving.
@RedNineTeen
3 жыл бұрын
@@THEDESTROYER711 it’s complete shite.. I never liked the idea of mds to begin with and I just recently bought my first ram truck and saw that eco light up and I’m just thinking to myself like I bought a damn v8 hemi for a reason and saving gas isn’t one of them.
@THEDESTROYER711
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedNineTeen exactly lol it ain’t a Prius. And since I got an exhaust done to it my foots in it even more lol. I have the loudest muffler you can get from Carven pretty easy install and sounds great a little drone at highway speeds but music drowns it out if need be.
@jizzyjake6783
2 жыл бұрын
You might get an extra mile or two depending on your driving but it's nothing crazy unless you're just creeping down the road but you can do that with 8 cylinders activated too
While in "manual mode" , do I have to use those (gear+, -)buttons to shift? It seemed like you were still driving it as an automatic.
@roberttoews2775
6 ай бұрын
Manual mode only limits the transmission to shift as high as the highest gear selected. Lower gears are unaffected. Shifts automatically as usual.
@K-Hab
4 ай бұрын
@@roberttoews2775 good to know, thanks
TK🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
@TKsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gio
How do you turn it back on
Just turn on tow haul mode eliminates the mds
Interesting... I THINK this also applies to much older Chrysler branded products with the HEMI and NAG1 autostick transmission. I get 14mpg in stop and go traffic, auto mode only, and MDS active. On a flat highway at 55mph, I can get up to 25mpg in my Magnum. That's a huge difference and I attribute it to MDS. No way am I getting 25mpg with all 8 cylinders active. I only wish MDS was trouble free. I've heard too many rumors of MDS being bad for the motor long term. So I'm torn, MPG or longevity... :(
@delpower1348
Жыл бұрын
I’ll give you my experience with MDS. I had a 2014 Ram 1500 with that MDS 5.7 Hemi engine and after 160,000 miles I get a check engine light. I get trouble code P0303, cylinder 3 misfire. So I do some research and the potential issues could have been a bad coil, faulty spark plugs, even faulty fuel injectors. So I replace ALL of it and still that dreaded P0303 code kept popping up. I take it to the dealership to get it diagnosed and they said that the lifters, camshaft and rocker arms need to be replaced. They wanted to charge me $7,090 to perform the work! Needless to say I did the work myself and sold it. There’s my two cents on the MDS engine.
@pastexpiration2160
9 ай бұрын
Longevity every time
@timbrown8038
8 ай бұрын
Just
So are you saying that you have to leave it in manual mode before it's disabled? I didn't quite get all of that!
so i am lookin at a dodge with that system and i gotta question. so you put it in manual, put it in whatever gear you want and keep it in manual but it will down shift and upshift for you still?
@Ghost-xi6js
2 жыл бұрын
It’s actually not a manual shift…it’s a gear limiter…exactly what it says on the controls. Manual shift would allow you to go up and down through the gears and hold a certain gear. The gear limiter only allows you limit what highest gear you want.
@HawK201
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost-xi6js thank you
@HawK201
2 жыл бұрын
@mike light thank you
i have a 2018 GC SRT , i put it in sport and it disables it, obviously the gas mileage is much worse, but i didnt buy this car for mpgs lol
unfortunetly you have to do this everytime you move the shifter to park or start the vehicle.
@TKsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
True. But it's free
@brenenmay3222
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, get whatcha pay for!
Do you have to do this every time you get into the truck, and does this deactivate the etorque system?
@TKsGarage
5 ай бұрын
Doesnt work on hybrids
My 2019 Ram Eco mode can be disabled in the settings on the touch screen. 🤷🏼♂️
I do not have an Eco light 2020 1500
How to turn it back on
Do you have to do it all the time or with just doing it once it takes care of it
@berardoferrari
2 ай бұрын
all the time.
I read eco mode and MDS are separate systems and you can disable MDS with affecting eco mode..
@jizzyjake6783
2 жыл бұрын
Nah the MDS is the only eco feature on the 5.7
@jaredgonzalez8421
Жыл бұрын
@@jizzyjake6783 how do I disable it
@jizzyjake6783
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgonzalez8421 Use your gear limit switch. Just set it to 8 so you are still utilizing all 8 gears and it will shift like normal but if that feature is engaged at all it will never go into eco mode. You have to do it every time you start it up or whenever you go in out of drive which kinda sucks but it literally takes a second. That's for newer Ram trucks at least that's the only thing I own with the 5.7L.
@jaredgonzalez8421
Жыл бұрын
@@jizzyjake6783 I have a 19 charger rt I don’t have gear limit
@jizzyjake6783
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgonzalez8421 sport mode should do it. I keep my Scatpack in track and it never comes on either.
I’m going to try this on my ‘22 Ram 1500 GT and let you know if it works. Thanks.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
9 ай бұрын
So I tried this on my drive home. First of all while the truck is running it will not let you shift pass second gear in manual mode. Once you get going, you can shift up to eighth gear but it will just stay in that gear. The only way to keep it out of Eco mode on my ram GT is to manually shift at the whole time. The weird thing is that it will downshift from eights all the way down to first but it will not upshift. Also my truck has a consol shifter with paddle shifters as well.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
8 ай бұрын
It doesn’t work with my GT because of the e torque motor it has which is driven by the engine. I also talked to a Dodge service advisor and he told me most of the issues are from people not changing their oil on time.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
5 ай бұрын
Update, you can disable it if you put it in tow hall mode. If you check out the KZread channel Reignited, the gentleman is a factory trained Chrysler/Dodge technician, and says there is no reason to disable the MDS as it is not the reason for camshaft and lifter failure. His reason is lack of maintenance and low oil pressure at idle. He has a lot of experience with these engines and he gives some great examples and shows you what all the components actually look like. It’s worth checking out if anything I would turn off the stop and start, this is probably worse for your engine than anything else as you are starting it up after the oil has drained back into the oil pan. You also using the auxiliary battery a lot more and apparently is worth 2500 bucks! If you have the e torque hemi option.
If you stomp will it shift pass selected gear??
@ehimenikheloa2420
Жыл бұрын
Great question
Anybody make a kit too keep it in manual mode so you donf have to do that everytime you drive it
How about the 2006 ram 1500? Is this possible? Ty
@cjon323
2 жыл бұрын
2006 ram did not have 4 cylinder mode 👍🏻
Do manual car's have that
@TKsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Nope
does this work on a 2005 chrysler 300c 5.7?
@TKsGarage
Жыл бұрын
Should
So does this affect the top speed of the truck?
@MrGunner945
Жыл бұрын
Not sure how it works on the newer models but on a 2009 model I had, doing this would prevent the truck from shifting into overdrive when at highway speeds.
No MDS is great, but I don't care to manually shift the automatic all the time.
Which models have MDS? I am interesting to buy a challenger for daily usage and consuming so much gas daily is a minus .
@TKsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
All except the manual
@cljay25
2 жыл бұрын
I have a '21 R/T and it has MDS. It is absolutely annoying when cruising because it can't hold cruise control in eco mode.
Is there a way to show the speed limit in the cluster?
@kjsmolik
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Juat change the screen
@XxSoGRAMBOxX
Жыл бұрын
@kjsmolik it shows the speed I'm going but the the road speed limit
Hi i need help.i have a 2011 ram crew cab 1500 hemi engine how can i do that
@TKsGarage
Жыл бұрын
Not sure it can be done on those
@alexloeragallos
Жыл бұрын
@@TKsGarage okay
I have a 2007 ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi and the mds is causing it not to run right is there any way to disable it on here
@TKsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Only if it has manual shifting
@TKsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Or you would need a custom tune
@colebradshaw3734
2 жыл бұрын
@@TKsGarage does tow haul not disable it
That dnt wrk! Still goes into 4 mode
So it doesn’t affect the car if you have it in 8th gear all the time ?
@jizzyjake6783
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't stay in that gear. It goes through the gears like normal. A gear limiter just won't allow it to go past whatever gear it is set to. It's mainly used if say you were pulling a trailer and wanted it to stay in a lower gear to utilize more of your RPM range.
@christopherpurvis2075
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
All the ECO does is indicate when your vehicle is getting best gas mileage
I do this just because im scared of that hemi tick.... and doing everything i can to prevent it... 19' 1500. 12,500miles
@cameron.s.9368
2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly in 2016 the lifters were upgraded so it's "not" a problem anymore. At least much more rare
I would like a way to reset my tpms on my ram 2500 80 lb in tires is to much with out load I run 45 to 50 all the way around have to clear it evertime a crank it to go
So just stay in manual mode
💪🏽💪🏽
@TKsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
this is useful but if you own a charger/challenger if you put it into "sport mode" it will automatically disable 4 cylinder mode.
@jellyjam777
Жыл бұрын
Same have sport mode on my Grand Cherokee 5.7
@victisomega4248
Жыл бұрын
This does not work on my 2022 R/T Scatpack. Sport mode or Track mode will still allow MDS... I think it's peak comedy that someone who buys a car with a 6.4L V8 would care about fuel economy... but here we are. Side note, I know it's actually about emissions regulations but it's still funny!
@cljay25
10 ай бұрын
The problem I have is in my 21 RT if I go into sport mode the car won't go into 7th or 8th gear unlest I'm doing like 70 on the highway. And sport mode makes the car snappier and louder which is nice but I don't want that when I'm just cruising down the highway.
Just a diablo tune.. 91 or 93..
Thats not manual shifting, it's a gear limit for towing.
@lowstakescrusher
Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. There is a separate Tow/Haul mode.
@jv8296
Жыл бұрын
@@lowstakescrusher I'm definitely right. The gear limit is just that, a limit. You set what gear you want as the max, and the transmission will shift normally up to that gear. Tow/haul does not limit how many gears the transmission will use, it optimizes shift points for more power and will downshift for better engine braking. Tow/haul also reduces the risk of transmission overheating.
This does not work on a 2020 ram 1500 v6. 😢
@gethatbag3221
2 жыл бұрын
V6 doesn't have mds
@tylerdurden9748
2 жыл бұрын
@@gethatbag3221 i finally figured that out, what a relief! Good look hemi's
I've been doing this off and on for awhile now, does anybody else find your truck downshifts a bit harder when doing this? Or is it just my imagination, lol? I'm thinking when you keep all 8 going, instead of 4, your going to have a bit harder downshift points?
@slash4270
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2009 Dodge Charger and from what I’ve heard my car comes with engine breaking so yours might as well mine is a pursuit so I’m thinking it’s for cops to stop quicker and easier is all
@dlproductions9574
2 жыл бұрын
i just turned MDS Off on my 08 Chrysler 300c and i noticed this too, but i would consider it due to the change from 6 to 8 cylinders when braking
@Nooooahhh
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know I don’t really notice a difference in downshifting.
@JerrySRT
Жыл бұрын
@@dlproductions9574how u turn it off
@JerrySRT
Жыл бұрын
@@Nooooahhhfor me it takes so long to brake
this isnt quite the same thing as a mds delete with a pcm retune.