Lots of technical knowledge, tricks, and not all flashy the way I like it, I'll be referring to this video when I change my cams. Thank you sir.

If only i could find a video that goes this much in detail for the 4.6 4v cobra motors.

This is the best video hands down on how to degree a modular motor. Thank you,thank you,thank you!!! I had COMP adjustable gears on my 4.6. One degree of timing = 3.33 points of centerline. Without your video, I would have never been able to figure that out. Thanks again!!!

Thanks for taking the time to make the video. It makes a lot more sense physically seeing how it's done and I feel a lot more confident doing this myself now on my own engine.

I have 2 5.4s that are 4v but watching this video really helped me a lot for general knowledge on the process. Thank you for all the effort on this video!

We need this kind of people in the world. Thank you for the video. I'll control my mechanic when I'll install MHS Stage 2 cams on my 4.6 SOHC via using your video.

Going to degree the cams in my 5.4 tomorrow and will be watching this slowly. Thanks for making it, BadShoe.

hello Ken. good job with the video. I'm a engine lab and dyno tech from the past and will be doing this on my 96 gt .

I can replace the timing chain or any other component on 4.6 with my eyes closed yet ive never in my life degreed a cam I appreciate your video sir it was very nice and detailed thanks for your hard work it really help us technicians and diy's tramendously

Wow !! You are a very intelligent an clever man , thank you very much for sharing this ... Sir.. It's very hard to time these engines without the degree wheel...

Thanks for taking the time to make this informational video.

Excellent video. I am in the process of doing this swap now. I am a machinist by trade, and have experience building engines, but these mod motors are new to me. This video will be followed closely as I reassemble my engine. Thank you sir!

Thank you very much for a well made video. I found it very instructional and learned a lot. Your teaching manner is awesome! Thank you again!

These video's are awesome, Ken died over 20 years ago, but his spirit lives on with his video's!

@badshoeproductions

4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure I am still living. I'm only retired but still sell my videos and specialty tools so don't kill me off just yet.....Ken.

Thanks for posting Bud, very useful. '95 Crown Vic.

Damn you are the man. Nice job dude. You got er done.

Excellent video!!! Thank you

Cannot comprehend.... but great video!!

Great instructor.

Great video on how to degree your cams, if you are so inclined to do so...

Great video, this is going to help me so much when installing my cams. Keep up the good work and thank you!!

This is great thanks. Plan on upgrading the cams (cms stg2) to be exact on my 98 PI engine swapped gt. Thanks for this vid

@badshoeproductions

9 жыл бұрын

98snakehorse Glad you liked it. Be sure to check PTV for your setup.

I did a cam swap before I was a tech and held the chain without the special tool- used a garden hose. Everything stayed within time lol

Great video.

Thank you for such an informative Video, the 4.6 is one of Ford's most reliable designs, not only reliable, for such a small V8, a Man can have some fun on and off the track without spending a ton of Money, again thank you.

I love this guy

A great teacher , in a disappearing subject ! Sad , today, high schools and junior colleges have done away with these departments. Due to over population and an illegal oligarchy ruling over a disappearing middle class we are forced to use 3 & 4 cylinder mini cars , electric cars and hybrid cars. Thank God retro cars are still made. the challenger, the Camaro and the Mustang etc. Hyundi and Kia build a V8 , I'd love to find one at a junkyard and try it out in a 1980's Mustang.

Thanks Ken for the video. Good information! Good detail!

Very well done thank you 🙏🏻

That was a load on the brain, using this video step by step would be essential and highly valuable. So with the slight wiggle fit of the cam to the cam sprocket you end up relying on bolt tension to maintain precise alignment? Seems a bit iffy of a proposition, would think some way to pin that position would be preferred.

@badshoeproductions

2 жыл бұрын

I have heard of guys using cut off pinion shims in the gap between the pin and cam gear. I don't think that's needed any more than the slop in the dowel pin in the Ford cams on their push rod motors. Many newer engines have no key or pins on the cam and gear and only the bolt torque holds them in position just fine.

76 people couldn't follow instructions and blew up their engines! Good video Ken!

is there any way i could contact you about the specialty rocker arm and lifter you used for the degreeing?

@badshoeproductions when check the lobe center does the piston one and six have to be a tdc and then turn the crank to tdc lobe on the cam and check to 50 thousands?

Question.. If I dissembled a low mileage PI engine and when removing the timing chains there was no visible marks on the chains and I placed the engine at TDC and gears and crank in the position as if setting time and then marking the chains at the cams with marking compound ?? At this time I was unaware that the bottom parts of the chain at the crank would need to be marked as well and like I said there was no markings on chains from manufacturer... is there any step I can do to fix this ? Do I take the chains that have one mark and find the middle of the chain and mark that while it is off engine to find center and just go from there ? Is the markings on the chain not to find a link that is different ? or merely a mark to center the chains so in reality you can make a mark on any link and then make another at the other end ?

2000 p71 owner stock engine with 200 thousand miles would it be best to do this to this model it's a very strong motor

On the 5.4l 2v, which i'm assuming this would be the same on the 4.6l 2v, which cylinders on both side should i remove the roller follower or rocker arms on to neutralize the valves so i can move them cams freely while servicing the chains? I know on the 3v you remove two rocker arms from the front and one from the back on the passenger side, and the reverse on the driver side. This makes it so that nothing will ever hit, so i want to know which i remove on the 2v for the same purpose, with crank keyway at 12 o'clock of course. Thanks

When a chain or belt has an external tightener you never go backwards it makes your precision measurements not precise anymore, you also have small amounts of play between teeth and chain on both ends and chain tension is different on both sides of cam sprocket, plus the tensioner will change pressure will change the degree visualized (not much, but it will effect these measurements)

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

That's why all my readings are taken after the crank is turned in the clockwise direction.

@teal61762

8 жыл бұрын

to get the "slop" out, you may want to stress that

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

I think I made it very clear. I use the screwdriver blade in the tensioner arm to take the slop out and repeatedly say to make the readings only after turning clockwise. With some of the rockers installed, this also causes the cams to resist turning which adds to the chain tension as well.

thanks. I got some scratches on the cam and journals. Are heads garbage?? cam turns freely but has scratches.

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sorell I have no idea without looking at them. I would say take it to a head shop that deals with late model ford stuff, and have them look.

It is possible if clearance allows MR.GASKET makes a larger degree wheel and it has 4 spokes, allowing you to look into see front crank sprocket timing marks and allows access to chain slide pivot bolts

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe so, just have to test it.

@teal61762

8 жыл бұрын

it may interfere with water pump, although chances are if you're tore down that far chances are it needs replaced anyway

Question? Will this process work with Trick flow Industry heads since they have the patented removable cam gurdle? I know the cams have to be cut specifically for the head on the 4.6 2V.

@badshoeproductions

7 жыл бұрын

You will have to check with Trick Flow. I believe their heads have offset cam placement. I've never worked with their heads.

Any tips for placing a dial indicator for the drivers side head cam-degreeing process on a 96-98 Mustang GT? The hydroboost brake setup on the firewall is completely in the way. Great video by the way. Been using it step by step on my Mustang. Just hit a bigger issue here. I don't have a rocker setup like you do, but that wouldn't help me.

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

If you can get to the #5 intake valve, you could turn the crank 90* more passed the #6 position shown in the video which will put #5 intake into play. Understand that the numbers will be changed by 90*.

@thuhintimidator

8 жыл бұрын

+BadShoeProductions Good idea. I ended up grinding an Allen wrench down to fit as an extension for the dial indicator, but kept some of the elbow of the allen wrench as a "foot" to reach out and sit on the spring retainer. the modified length of the allen wrench "extension" allowed me to squeeze into the available space on #6 and obtain the ICL readings. I found that my right cam (small comp cam set) sits at 107* (110 is the spec), and barely hits the piston early in the opening cycle. I'm going to use adjustable crank gears to put it at 111*...hopefully fixing that issue. Thanks again for the excellent video. I am curious though, why did you not set your lifter to zero lash before fixing it as a solid lifter? Was it close and just did not make that much difference? Thanks!

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't make much difference since the slack will be the same on both sides of the lobe center. I believe you can buy adjustable lifters or add small washers can be put under the lifter which can make it closer to zero lash.

I have a set of comp cams stage 3 cams i want to install into my 96 non pi block what would you recommend on my ICL? Someone said 112* but im not 100% sure on that

@badshoeproductions

6 жыл бұрын

I would say check the comp cam recommendation.

I can't say enough how much I love this video. Moving through it step-by-step, but discovered that the piston stop that I have doesn't fit into the head. I have an 03 Mustang GT with PI heads. You wouldn't happen to know where you got yours would you, or which one it is?

@DanD9969

4 жыл бұрын

I ended up making one by tapping an old plug.

@badshoeproductions

4 жыл бұрын

I made mine by tapping a compression gauge adaptor.

@DanD9969

4 жыл бұрын

@@badshoeproductions ... I degreed my cams yesterday. I ended up with 108.5 on the left cam and 109.25 on the right. My card says 109; close enough in my opinion. Thank you so much for all your help along the way; I can say that I have watched this video no less than 30 times leading up to the process; then countless times while doing the work (starting it; pausing it, going back, etc.). This was honestly the most helpful video I have used while working on my car to-date! Thank you so much!

So if you degree the cams, how are they going to stay 100% true when there is still slack in the chain? Also without adjustment on the crank sprocket or cam gears how will you compensate the difference between the factory cam centerline and aftermarket ? I’m doing a 02 mustang get with stage 3 comp cams. Also wont the oem crank holding tool help in finding true tdc if I don’t have the piston stop tool?

@badshoeproductions

4 жыл бұрын

When I use a screwdriver to take the slack out of the chain is the same as what the hydraulic tensioner will do when the engine is running, therefore it should stay in that position (no slack). If you are taking about the Ford Rotunda crank holding tool, it doesn't hold it a TDC, it holds the crank away from TDC so no piston is at the top of the bore. This keeps any valve from hitting a piston during head installation.

When installing the cam bolts and chain ratchet adjusters do you put loctite on the bolts

@badshoeproductions

8 ай бұрын

No.

Thank you so much for this video. I am putting trickflow head with bullet cams on my 01 lighting. This will help greatly with getting it all degree'd in!! What do you think of the trickflow degree kit?

@HypnoticSuggestion

7 жыл бұрын

The Lightning is a 4 valve motor right? Forgive my ignorance, I'm not sure if it matters much, but I know the heads are very, very different. Awesome truck tho! Always wanted one. I'm a lowly peasant with a 2V Mustang :) I have every single bolt on possible, with the best heads, and everything else up top, and my car will never make the power that those Lightning's do!

Ok finally got around to messing with car. I have 99 Mustang. The gears are pressed on. The one you have is bolt on gear. i can't move them like you do in the video. What can i do??

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sorell You have Windsor cams which have fixed gears. Romeo and aftermarket cams have bolt on gears. You could get adjustable crank gears or just install your cams and see how close in spec. they are.

Will this work on a 2007 crown vic 4.6 ?

@badshoeproductions

7 жыл бұрын

Sure.

@f4cphantom2

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

I used a 32mm to spin the crank but it doesn’t grab I have a 4.6 1996 mustang gt

Great video, will this work with a 3 valve? thanks

@badshoeproductions

6 жыл бұрын

The 3V can be degreed however, the cam timing is controlled by the computer anyway.

Done few engine rebuild,,, and changed timingchain couple times...., kind of confused, what is done here?? If marks are correct, and chain marks in place, why this "degree the cams" has to be done??/ I am about to do engine rebuild into my Infiniti FX45, =4.5 litre V 8 with DOHC, will bore engine bigger to 5 litre with power pistons, and put sharper cams, with stiffer springs in there, should I do this "degree" thing in my engine??? I am planning just follow the marks!!! Confusing......

@badshoeproductions

7 жыл бұрын

As I wrote a few post below. If it's your grannies Town Car, don't bother, but if you want the optimal in what it's capable of, degree it. The closer you get the left and right settings together, the better the idle quality as well.

I'm looking to beef up the power on my 93 4.6 crown victoria what mustang parts will fit on it cuz I'm told any 4.6 mustang parts will fit but I don't believe they will I'd light to do an egr delete .headers . shave the heads down and bigger cams but I don't know what all will fit can't find anything for my year of car

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

You can use 99+Mustang or 2001+ CV heads/intake and support parts. Just doing a PI head swap will raise compression and stock PI cams would work well in your combo. Understand that on a pre96 model requires a donor car since EGR and most everything on top of the intake is different from your early CV.

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe at the strip, but might not be worth it for a street car.

Where do I get the dial indicator with the vice grips at also where do I get the modified rocker and the lifter at can I buy them

@badshoeproductions

10 ай бұрын

I made my own rocker and lifter. One of the modulator Mustang companies might have them. The dial indicator is an old one but you should be able to find one on Summit. It normally is used to check rotor runout.

I'm 68. I have always degreed in my aftermarket cams. BUT, If Ford can grind cams and bolt them on to run normally, plus do it several hundreds of thousands of times...WHY can not aftermarket cam makers grind their cams as accurate so the buyer just bolts them on to the marks? (Talking non race teams)

What if I made a boo boo and the driver side cam has been rotated and the number of turns has been forgotten. Which valve should be about to be activated if it’s in proper timing? Thanks.

@badshoeproductions

Жыл бұрын

If you positioned the crank as I did in the video (crank key at 9 o-clock) no pistons will be at the top of the cylinders. Therefore, you can safely turn the left cam to the position needed to line up the chain links. If you feel the right cam is now off, (with the crank key set at 9 o-clock) remove that chain and reset. If everything is out of wack, you could remove all the rockers and start at the beginning.

About 5 minutes into this I was going to say what is the point of all of this because there is no adjustment at the camshaft. That is until I waited long enough to see the amount of slop between the cam and gear. yet I have to wonder if the cam gear should be installed in such a way that the gear is contacting the cam gear in the direction of rotation to avoid possible movement. then recheck the degree of the cams to see if it is in specification.

Quick question - once you found true TDC on the With the timing wheel, couldn't you then remove the timing wheel so you can see the crank timing marks, ensuring the crank doesn't move, and then put both chains on ensuring each timing mark on each chain matches each crank sprocket and cam gear?

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

You don't need the timing wheel at all to set the chain in their correct position by the marks on the gears. But that's not degreeing them.

@DeepImpactFishingTea

8 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your response - and just want to ensure I understand - and that is if i swap PI heads onto my NPI motor, i would first set the #1piston to TDC (Easy to do with heads off and dial indicator), which would also put the timing marks on the crank sprockets at 6 o clock - then install heads/cams - then set the LH cam timing mark to approx 1 o clock, and the RH cam timing mark to 11 o clock, then install timing chains in order, ensuring the marks on the timing chains match the marks on both the cam sprocket and crank sprocket. This would set the cams in theory to "factory spec" (sort of speak). IS that accurate? (appreciate the time in advance!)

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

If you're not going to degree it, then simply set the crank key to 9:00 which puts the crank timing marks at about 4 or 5:00. This puts all the pistons down in their bores. This will keep any valves from hitting a piston while turning the cams. Now both the marked chains can be lined up with the marks on both cams and crank gears. Release the tensioners and put it together.

@DeepImpactFishingTea

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! About where would each cam gear timing mark be then? (from a clock perspective)

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but the left (driver side) would be about 1:00 and the right cam maybe 9:00 or 10:00. Just put the chain on the crank gear and see where the marked chain link ends up at the cam gear.

whats the benift off all this work (cam shift degree) more hp gain ??

@badshoeproductions

7 жыл бұрын

If it's your grannies Town Car, don't bother, but if you want the optimal in what it's capable of, degree it. The closer you get the left and right settings together, the better the idle quality as well.

@HypnoticSuggestion

7 жыл бұрын

Can this also affect reliability? I'm very much a novice, but it seems like perfect balance is incredibly important. But again, I know very little. Thanks for any input, and thank you for such an in-depth, detail oriented video!

nic

WOW

@ badshoe productions is this same way to degree cams in a sohc 4.6 3v?

@badshoeproductions

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you could but it isn't needed because the cam timing is adjusted through the engine electronic.

@javiergarciajr7589

4 жыл бұрын

@@badshoeproductions i bought some custom grind cams and thought it be better to degree them.

why not just line up the marks and install why the wheel ??

@badshoeproductions

7 жыл бұрын

This has been asked and answered many times. For a daily driver, don't bother. If you want to get the most out of your setup, then degree it.

Is the reason your able to turn the crankshaft in both directions because you've removed the valves ,rocker arms and lifters?

@badshoeproductions

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video, I limit the amount of turning depending on which rockers are still in each head and where the cam is positioned. With certain rockers removed and with the cam positioned correctly, no valves are open therefore no danger of the piston hitting a valve.

PERFORMANCE IMPROVED VS NON PERFORMANCE IMPROVED. NOT POLICE INTERCEPTOR OR POWER IMPROVED.

will this work on the 2001 stang ?

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+Gibby Trevino Of course.

@gabrieltrevino6359

8 жыл бұрын

+BadShoeProductions thanks I'm replacing my oil pump and timing chain next week first time doing it thanks for the video

From the look of the intake ports, this car has Performance Improved heads. Is that right?

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+SAMUEL ADAMS Yes, I say that at the beginning of the video.

@samueladams7798

8 жыл бұрын

+BadShoeProductions I missed that somehow. Thanks for that answer. Do you have a regular shop with a phone number? I'd be willing to pay for a little phone time.

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+SAMUEL ADAMS I'm a Technician at a Ford Dealer and these videos is my side job you might say. I do plan to make live demonstrations with Q&A. I have video conference call capability but if you just want to email a question to me, that would be fine. badshoe@comcast.net

@samueladams7798

8 жыл бұрын

+BadShoeProductions Thanks for that.

im going to do a pi head swap. Can i degreee the cams without a cam card??

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sorell Of course, but what degree would you set it? If you don't know what cam spec. you have, maybe you shouldn't be installing it. If it's the stock PI cams, most people set them from 114 to 110* intake lobe center. I would normally set PI cams to 110*.

@adamsorell4851

8 жыл бұрын

+BadShoeProductions they are stock PI heads. How do i know how far down to go with the piston stop??

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sorell Just do as I do in the clip. Run it down until it stops with the crank turned as in the video.

@adamsorell4851

8 жыл бұрын

ok but is there a timing mark on crank or something i have to line up?? i mean i can screw that piston stop down far hitting the top of piston when it is down in the cylinder and not at tdc??

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sorell Again, just watch the video. I say to put crank so the key is at the 6 o-clock position which will put the number one piston near TDC. There's no mark to go by which is why you're doing this to find TDC. Then turn the crank CW about 20* and run the stop down until it hits the piston. The piston is not at TDC at this time. The rest of the video shows how to find TDC. You could run the screw down with the crank rotated 10* or 30* as well except at the 30*, the screw may not be long enough since the piston would likely be too far down in the cylinder.

is the stock timing not the same i am lost

@badshoeproductions

Жыл бұрын

Yes, for stock cams. Degreeing is to verify the lobe center is to spec. and to be sure that both banks are the same. This is more important to check when using high lift, long duration cams.

How long should it take a qualified tech to do this job ?

@badshoeproductions

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to answer that. The degreeing check, maybe a couple hours but to remove the intake, valve covers, chains, front dress and timing chain cover, a full day I would say.

What is the worst possible thing that could happen if you don't degree cams properly

@badshoeproductions

6 жыл бұрын

With stock cams, nothing, will just work like a stock engine. With aftermarket cams, it could cause piston to valve clearance concerns and/or loss of performance.

Why take the intake off?

@badshoeproductions

4 жыл бұрын

I swapped non-PI heads for PI heads and hadn't installed the intake at this point in the project.

Sigh... I cant do this man now I have to give my money's to a mechanic Dang I hate that

All most done u said in the video turn the crank as needed to install the rockers can u turn the crank clock wise and counter clock wise to install the rockers

@badshoeproductions

10 ай бұрын

I try to only turn the crank clockwise until you're on the base side of cam lobe to install the rocker.

@SammyBurns-mp9vx

9 ай бұрын

I screwed up I believe, I finished every but now I have no compression on cyl 1. And cylinder 6 I have 5 pounds .to correct this. Do i have to take all the rockers off if so do I degree every cyl . now or can I just do number 1. and cyl.6

@SammyBurns-mp9vx

9 ай бұрын

Need a little more help Im not sure what I did wrong but not I have no compression in number 1cyl. And only 5 pounds in number 6 can u please tell me how to fix this need help now please 36:52

@SammyBurns-mp9vx

9 ай бұрын

​@@badshoeproductions39:02

@badshoeproductions

9 ай бұрын

The lifters might be pumped up. It might fix itself over night. It not, rotate the crank so the piston is slightly down (keyway at 9 o-clock) remove the #1 and #6 intake rockers, pull those lifters and squeeze them down in a vise and put it back together.

No sound :(

@badshoeproductions

8 жыл бұрын

It has audio, check your settings.

@badshoeproductions when check the lobe center does the piston one and six have to be a tdc and then turn the crank to tdc lobe on the cam and check to 50 thousands?

is there any way i could contact you about the specialty rocker arm and lifter you used for the degreeing?

@badshoeproductions

6 жыл бұрын

My email is badshoe@comcast.net . I simply gutted a stock lifter and welded a bar on the rocker, no measuring just did it as seen in the video.